#7029166 - 04/22/13 10:54 PM
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dirtyS13drifta
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Did 8 on accident on Sunday. Was camping at a new
Park. Took a turn and after a 1/4 mile it looped away from camp. Realized that's my longest paved run this year. Though technically only abou 6 was paved.
Felt awkward. But that could be that it was only 2 hours after a huge lunch and some beers.
Weather is amazing this week. So in hoping to break 20 this week for once.
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#7032457 - 04/24/13 01:34 PM
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Funny, I've been having breathing thoughts too. I think I've got super mild allergies, but it's been making me struggle. OR something has. It seems like lately I've been out of breath a lot on runs. I tend to pant on the out breath too much I think, rather than calmly exhaling. On shoter runs(5k), I've been getting side aches and feeling very short of breath(only thing keeping me from speeding up). On long runs I just feel like I'm breathing a bit harder than I should.
On my next LSR I'll try the nose breathing. And on moderate stuff I'm going to work on controlled exhales.
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#7032522 - 04/24/13 02:05 PM
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I read recently about a type of breathing for running where you want to alternate what foot you land on when exhaling. It was something about you put the most stress on your body when you exhale. So you want to inhale for 3 steps and exhale for 2 steps, so you always are alternating your breaths. I'm pretty sure it was in the last issue of Runner's World. I'd have to try to find it. I, personally, don't think about it and just breathe as I need to when I run.
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#7033888 - 04/25/13 07:50 AM
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I LOVE my Brooks Pure Grit.
Funny enough I picked up a pair of these yesterday, they felt great in the store. Will be trying them out this weekend!
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#7034142 - 04/25/13 09:58 AM
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I LOVE my Brooks Pure Grit.
Pure grit 2 are probably my favorite shoe ever.
I use them for everything.
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#7035058 - 04/25/13 04:05 PM
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Ampsman in Extremis
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It's funny you mention it, and I don't know why I didn't think about it after your initial report.
In my 50k, at a difficult section where I was having a low moment at like mile 20, I realized I just didn't seem to be getting a good amount of air in with each breath. I'm a mouth breather too, but I found that focusing on exhaling helped a whole lot...like it completely brought me back around. I would take a big deep breath with my mouth open, but then I'd exhale kind of forcefully through pursed lips. I don't know if it was the technique itself or just the fact that it forced me to focus on something other than hating life at that moment, but it worked really really well.
That has worked for me in the past, especially when working out cramps.
I am more and more starting to think that my issue initially was maybe triggered by allergies and then my poor breathing techniques exasperated the problem and I then had some sort of anxiety attack. I used to have alot of anxiety issues, which is why I dont drink caffeine, and ultimately how I ended up when I dropped was exactly like when I used to have anxiety attacks...face and hands tingling, gasping for air.
I did another run this morning, 8 miles, and I would say 95% nose breathing.
I got so comfortable that at one point I tried to inhale thru my mouth and didnt feel like I was getting enough oxygen. Then went right back to my nose and felt great. What is really great is how much more in control I feel.
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#7045765 - 05/01/13 07:16 PM
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Time for a 6 miler trail race.
Wish me luck on not being last.
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#7046465 - 05/02/13 09:48 AM
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~6 miles, probably 1k of vert?
8:50 Pace.
Better than I expected for hating hills. I had too much left in the tank. I was full sprinting downhill on a dirt road to finish and still felt fresh within a couple minutes.
On the downhills I can't move my feet fast enough with obstacles. Still could gain on most my pace group, but felt a little out of control.
Practice will help I'm sure.
On the uphills I'm one of the first people to revert to walking. That said, I actually wasn't loosing much ground the people at my pace just by brisk walking. It seems like some people feel like they have to "run" for it to count(they're really just jogging). In such a short race any time spent moving that slow(4.5mph-ish) seems wasted. SO basically I need to toughen up.
Flats I felt great though, I was passsing comfortably the minute it got flat.
This was my first tail race in about 10 months. Last year I wasn't running much, so I was doing 10-11 minute paces. I feel much stronger as a runner. I had run some of the same trails for my accidental 11.8miles last month, which really helped me mentally. I didn't look at the map enough though, because I thought I had more uphill left than I did and I think I "saved" too much.
4 more races in the series!
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#7047025 - 05/02/13 01:10 PM
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~6 miles, probably 1k of vert?
8:50 Pace.
Better than I expected for hating hills. I had too much left in the tank. I was full sprinting downhill on a dirt road to finish and still felt fresh within a couple minutes.
On the downhills I can't move my feet fast enough with obstacles. Still could gain on most my pace group, but felt a little out of control.
Practice will help I'm sure.
On the uphills I'm one of the first people to revert to walking. That said, I actually wasn't loosing much ground the people at my pace just by brisk walking. It seems like some people feel like they have to "run" for it to count(they're really just jogging). In such a short race any time spent moving that slow(4.5mph-ish) seems wasted. SO basically I need to toughen up.
Flats I felt great though, I was passsing comfortably the minute it got flat.
This was my first tail race in about 10 months. Last year I wasn't running much, so I was doing 10-11 minute paces. I feel much stronger as a runner. I had run some of the same trails for my accidental 11.8miles last month, which really helped me mentally. I didn't look at the map enough though, because I thought I had more uphill left than I did and I think I "saved" too much.
4 more races in the series!
Nice! Hills are somewhere that you have to suck it up and save energy some time. I am bad about that myself, my thinking is that even if I'm not moving very fast I am carrying momentum to when it flattens out, versus walking/power hiking I feel like its hard to get that momentum back.
Keep it up man!
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#7047054 - 05/02/13 01:20 PM
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dirtyS13drifta
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See, I feel the minute it mellows out pitch my lungs feel amazing. It's like I'm getting compressed air given to me. So I have no problem moving again. My feet feel like feathers.
Yeah, I had a blast. I thought I'd burn more on this one, but I finished the race feeling very good. So time to turn it up a bit more for next time. Still, I'm not unhappy with my pace. I did 12 miles in 2 hours about a month ago. I think I need to start ramping my milage and shoot for a longer distance soon. This series runs through May, so I'll probably aim for breaking 8min pace offroad by series end, while ramping up a bit. Then get back above 20 miles a week in June.
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#7047420 - 05/02/13 02:53 PM
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I'll say I didn't hate teh hills as much as I normally do. I knew they were too long for me to power through, and realizing that a 4.5mph walk is easier than a 4.5mph jog helped. Even a 4.7mph jog would have been wasting energy for the given speed I realized. I'd run the gentler stretches. But yeah, my hill skills need some work, but they'll get there. If I can get just a little stronger on them I'll move back to the slow run and I think that'll really bring my avg speed up.
Not that this is the right post for it. But I've also hit a new PR in bench today, and tied my PR in squats(especially good given the hills on 18 hours ago). Feeling like a stud today.
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#7047539 - 05/02/13 03:33 PM
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I try to always keep leg turnover in mind, so I tend to have shorter strides. But I'll test out what you're saying next time I'm out on some hills.
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#7050331 - 05/04/13 01:38 PM
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