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#7230432 - 08/13/13 08:48 AM z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost
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hoepfully it won't be 'watered down' in terms of comfort and handling...but who knows. we as usual won't get this hatch model...but who knows, maybe another variant? ;\)

active damper will be nice, all civics will prob get it. but ugh i hope it doesnt look like the UK/EU tourer car, yuck.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/civic...eb3c394a0374%26


The 2015 Honda Civic Type-R is taking shape and our spy photographers have caught it testing against its key rivals.

Spotted on European roads for the first time, the new Type-R certainly looks a lot more menacing than the standard hatchback, as you would expect from a hot hatch that is reported to produce well over 300bhp.

• Honda Civic review

A large intercooler can be spotted through the wider grille and front air-intakes. This works together with the huge rear wing and side skirts to make it look almost as extreme as the touring cars from the BTCC.

Despite the extensive camouflage on the pumped-up bodywork, a new set of wide-bore quad exhaust pipes and high performance brake discs with red brake calipers are also clearly visible. It looks more like the extreme Mugen Type-R than a factory hot hatch.

The prototype was spotted testing in convoy alongside the 276bhp Vauxhall Astra VXR and the even more potent 345bhp Ford Focus RS500 Mark II, which proves that Honda is aiming to offer at least 300bhp in the new Type-R.

Although the Renaultsport Megane 265 was conspicuous by its absence, Honda bosses have stated previously that they aim to topple its Nurburgring lap record for a front-wheel drive car.

Honda has also ruled out an estate version based on the new Civic Tourer, claiming that the two cars are aimed at entirely different customers and that a crossover between the two made little sense.

Senior Market Researcher Patrik Ponec told Auto Express: “There is a big contradiction between the Type-R and the Tourer so I doubt we will ever combine the two… the concept of the new Type-R is a racing car for the road.”

The new hot hatch is being developed in Japan rather than by Honda Europe. However, the prototype in these shots was spied wearing UK plates, which suggests the brand is keeping a keen eye on the European market. The UK should be especially important to Honda because we buy more hot hatches than any other country in Western Europe and have the most demanding road surfaces as well.

These Honda Civic Type R spy pictures prove that testing is well under way but we are unlikely to see the new Civic Type R in production guise until the end of 2014, with a concept a possibility at the Geneva motor show next year.

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#7230437 - 08/13/13 08:51 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin DC2R]
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on a side note, driving a '14 mdx this week...



not a huge suv fan but i'd buy this over acura cars as of now lulz.


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#7230441 - 08/13/13 08:54 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin DC2R]
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#7230487 - 08/13/13 09:26 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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the civic? no...would be a nice touch though
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#7230652 - 08/13/13 10:45 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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awd?


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Although the Renaultsport Megane 265 was conspicuous by its absence, Honda bosses have stated previously that they aim to topple its Nurburgring lap record for a front-wheel drive car.


doesnt look like it.

that car looks promising!!! as long as it's a mechanical LSD and it's priced right. I'd seriously be happy as shit.

<---- misses his boosted neon.
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#7230848 - 08/13/13 11:52 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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The 2015 CTR will be in the $38,000-42,000 range + tax (my guess)

If it's FWD, meh. Might as well buy the Focus ST for $30,000 + tax
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#7231003 - 08/13/13 12:44 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: iamfob]
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^pricing


and yeah, they for sure have to do some trick diff just like the fucus RS
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#7231566 - 08/13/13 04:27 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin DC2R]
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first turbo m cars

now a turbo type r?


dafuq is going on hurr

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#7231600 - 08/13/13 04:51 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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#7231615 - 08/13/13 05:00 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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 Originally Posted By: spd-dmn
first turbo m cars

dafuq is going on hurr


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#7231628 - 08/13/13 05:09 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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first turbo m cars

dafuq is going on hurr





i said m cars... ;\)

2002 turbo is not an m

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#7231645 - 08/13/13 05:23 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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300+ hp FWD

LMFAO
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#7231860 - 08/13/13 07:55 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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first turbo m cars

dafuq is going on hurr





i said m cars... ;\)

2002 turbo is not an m


I guesssssssss, but it was developed by M :p
Doesn't that make it an M car? \:\(
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#7231862 - 08/13/13 07:55 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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300+ hp FWD

LMFAO



500lb/ft @ 1500rpm

LMFAO
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#7233444 - 08/14/13 02:59 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Hatorade]
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300+ hp FWD

LMFAO



my neon was close to 450whp on race gas. it was manageable, ran low to mid 11's on slicks.

but it was a fucking fun car and i really wish I could get it back.
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#7233447 - 08/14/13 03:00 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin DC2R]
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 Originally Posted By: Screamin Babies
^pricing


and yeah, they for sure have to do some trick diff just like the fucus RS


trick diff? you mean like ABS, traction control kinda like limited slip with one axle turning??

that sucks.

mechanical LSD makes a HUGE difference, torque steer is almost non existent.
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#7233573 - 08/14/13 04:01 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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I doubt NA will get this car.
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#7233747 - 08/14/13 05:50 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: LNXGUY]
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I doubt NA will get this car.


cream pie - pls say it is coming to NA. \:\(
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#7234059 - 08/14/13 08:42 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: c2k]
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I doubt NA will get this car.


cream pie - pls say it is coming to NA. \:\(


i'm working on it
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#7234064 - 08/14/13 08:43 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Screamin DC2R]
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We never get any of the cool shit whether that be VW, Honda, whatever, lol.
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#7236044 - 08/15/13 08:12 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: LNXGUY]
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we'll be getting this ...eventually (next year) \:D


mk7 gti



this is our euro-spec test car, we literally just put it on the road two days ago

this version has the "performance pack" which is 230hp (vs 220), 340 mm front rotors and a mechanical front lsd

although i noticed it also has some electronic adjustment for the diff setting so i still gotta look into that

260 ft-lbs of torque too


but the best thing about this car is the progressive steering

the more steering angle you give it, the faster the ratio becomes

it's like 2 turns lock-to-lock (wtf)

this is probably the best handling stock fwd car i've ever experienced

and easily, EASILY, the best feeling electric power steering rack this side of a 991

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#7236074 - 08/15/13 08:29 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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^very nice, we must setup a h/vw trade ;\)

top gear says it's a very good car.
i hope that ratio thing was done right....and the car doesnt weigh 100000 lbs? :P
i heard it's a nice improvement tho.

*typeR is still the best handling fwd /bias \:D
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#7236159 - 08/15/13 09:28 PM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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the more steering angle you give it, the faster the ratio becomes

this is probably the best handling stock fwd car i've ever experienced

and easily, EASILY, the best feeling electric power steering rack this side of a 991


Don't doubt you at all on the steering feel.
But isn't that how all variable racks work? It works by having a finer tooth bitch for the beginning, and a larger, coarser tooth pitch towards the end of its travel for a quicker ratio.

And hang on...handles better than ITR? Whaaaaaat?
That is the best handling fwd car I've driven in showroom stock condition...but I have not tried Focus st/Fiesta st...
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#7236371 - 08/16/13 06:16 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: 4age]
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Don't doubt you at all on the steering feel.
But isn't that how all variable racks work? It works by having a finer tooth bitch for the beginning, and a larger, coarser tooth pitch towards the end of its travel for a quicker ratio.

And hang on...handles better than ITR? Whaaaaaat?
That is the best handling fwd car I've driven in showroom stock condition...but I have not tried Focus st/Fiesta st...



i loooove me some finer tooth bitch

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#7236377 - 08/16/13 06:27 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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My understanding is that traditional, hydraulic variable-ratio PS systems are actually the opposite:

the teeth get finer at the end, with the goal being to maintain consistent steering effort at the ends of the stroke (because you lose leverage at higher steering angles, and this would otherwise require much more effort at the ends)


with this system, though, because it exploits the potential of EPS, allows the rack to become more direct (rather than less direct) at the ends

the electric motor's level of assist is calibrated to provide the same steering effort throughout the entire range of travel


it's some kind of techno wizardry but all i can say is it works very well

the result is 2 turns lock-to-lock combined with zero dartiness at highway straightline speeds

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#7236381 - 08/16/13 06:30 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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oh and about that diff

i learned that it's a clutch-type front LSD that is electro-hydraulically actuated

basically a haldex but for front-wheel drive

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#7236445 - 08/16/13 07:44 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: spd-dmn]
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Very cool, now we need that exact car with less GTI and more GTD.
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#7236490 - 08/16/13 08:28 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: LNXGUY]
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wow thats a gti? boring as shit.


I hate referring to the turns to lock since that doesnt really tell you much about the ratio itself. the bar length, tire size,wheel wells etc all come into play for how many turns to lock you get.

even my shit box had a variable rack stock..that got faster the more you turned in. this was back in 1773 though.



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#7236502 - 08/16/13 08:34 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Can't expect anything less from SIRkid.
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#7236538 - 08/16/13 08:46 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: LNXGUY]
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it reminds me of a "city" golf...just newer gen.


boring wheels. lol @ painted slider calipers(that kind of look like ebay covers) etc. yawn

its highly possible they did this crap on purpose to hide the fact its a euro car...
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#7236559 - 08/16/13 08:55 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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The city golf is a MKIV, this reminds you of it?
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#7236569 - 08/16/13 08:58 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: LNXGUY]
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Im perfectly aware of what a "city" golf is and yes..that could easily be an updated version of that.
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#7236571 - 08/16/13 09:00 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Im perfectly aware of what a "city" golf is and yes..that could easily be an updated version of that.


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#7236581 - 08/16/13 09:05 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: LNXGUY]
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#7236643 - 08/16/13 09:33 AM Re: z0mg c2k may now buy a honda.....ver. ctr + boost [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I'm totally not a fan of the styling myself, but I've never been a golf fan.
The last good looking golf IMO is MK3 XD
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