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#6805964 - 01/02/13 08:10 PM basement subfloor question
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So any of you chumps do your basement yourself? Mine is finished, but I am ripping out the carpet. I'm planning on using drilock for the subfloor and then some 5" Bruce turlington lock and fold engineered wood in a floating floor.

http://www.1aflooring.com/productslist.aspx?cid=563

What did you use for a subfloor? Is there a better or cheaper subsitute than drilock?

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#6805982 - 01/02/13 08:22 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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platon + OSB on mine, cheaper than those pre made panels but less convenient if you have a hard time getting full stock into your basement. Its the same thing.
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#6805983 - 01/02/13 08:23 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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wtf is drilock? google didn't turn up much except drylock roll on sealer. Do you mean dricore?
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#6805987 - 01/02/13 08:24 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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^^ Haha, yeah, dricore, don't know why I typed drilock
Wife is also bugging me to do infloor heating, anyone install this?

http://www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/floor-heating/hardwood-heating

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#6805989 - 01/02/13 08:25 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

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#6805993 - 01/02/13 08:27 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
^^ Haha, yeah, dricore, don't know why I typed drilock


That stuff is a GIANT fucking ripoff. You can do it for 1/4 of the price if you put in a bit of work. Not to mention because it is in 2x2' sections and it doesn't butt up perfect you have moisture get between the actual membrane. Slim chance it would rot the osb or anything would even happen, but still, for that price, fuck that shit.

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#6805999 - 01/02/13 08:28 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?

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#6806004 - 01/02/13 08:29 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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I think you will find that you wont need infloor heat with a raised membrane subfloor, does not get cold at all
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#6806006 - 01/02/13 08:30 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?


No tapconed down, silicone applied to the tapcons before fastening. Makes for a super sturdy floor. Floor will be shitty if you just float the OSB over a membrane, plus good luck finding perfectly flat pieces of osb.

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#6806007 - 01/02/13 08:31 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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One more question, where would be a good location to rent a table say for ripping (cheapest for say a week). I have a mitre saw already, but I figure I'll need a table saw as well.
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#6806009 - 01/02/13 08:33 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?


No tapconed down, silicone applied to the tapcons before fastening. Makes for a super sturdy floor. Floor will be shitty if you just float the OSB over a membrane, plus good luck finding perfectly flat pieces of osb.

The silicone is to seal the holes in the deltafl? So you used a hammer drill to install the tapcon screws into the concrete. What size tapcons?

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#6806016 - 01/02/13 08:35 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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I can lend you my table saw (used it to do my hardwood floor) but it's fucking old school heavy mofo and in my shed. When do you need it?
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#6806021 - 01/02/13 08:39 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Risky Business]
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Not for another 4 weeks or so. Need to wait for hardwood to come in. Are you going to lend me your $200 shed building skills too? Beer is on me
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#6806030 - 01/02/13 08:43 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?


No tapconed down, silicone applied to the tapcons before fastening. Makes for a super sturdy floor. Floor will be shitty if you just float the OSB over a membrane, plus good luck finding perfectly flat pieces of osb.

The silicone is to seal the holes in the deltafl? So you used a hammer drill to install the tapcon screws into the concrete. What size tapcons?


You don't need silicone, thats just bananas

also don't need a table saw, circular saw or circular saw + saw sled are more than enough. You are more likely to hurt yourself using a table saw trying to rip big sheet goods unless you have the proper setup with in and outfeed support.

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#6806039 - 01/02/13 08:46 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?


No tapconed down, silicone applied to the tapcons before fastening. Makes for a super sturdy floor. Floor will be shitty if you just float the OSB over a membrane, plus good luck finding perfectly flat pieces of osb.

The silicone is to seal the holes in the deltafl? So you used a hammer drill to install the tapcon screws into the concrete. What size tapcons?


hammer drill hole, apply silicone to threads (JUST LIKE DELTA TELLS YOU TO DO, IT'S NOT FUCKING BANANAS!!!!), install. 1/4" tapcons x whatever length you need. And a table saw is pointless, you just need a skill saw, it's not precision cutting.

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#6806063 - 01/02/13 08:58 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?


No tapconed down, silicone applied to the tapcons before fastening. Makes for a super sturdy floor. Floor will be shitty if you just float the OSB over a membrane, plus good luck finding perfectly flat pieces of osb.

The silicone is to seal the holes in the deltafl? So you used a hammer drill to install the tapcon screws into the concrete. What size tapcons?


hammer drill hole, apply silicone to threads (JUST LIKE DELTA TELLS YOU TO DO, IT'S NOT FUCKING BANANAS!!!!), install. 1/4" tapcons x whatever length you need. And a table saw is pointless, you just need a skill saw, it's not precision cutting.


Bananas. The silicone is most likely not doing squat by the time its screwed down into place. Plus the fact that its unlikley water will ever penetrate any of the holes you drilled. Did you silicone all the cracks in the floor too? lol

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#6806066 - 01/02/13 09:00 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB


Delta FL is too expensive and hard to find in some areas.

Unless you have an elephant in your basement than you are fine, thats what the OSB is for to distribute the weight load as well, its not rocket science. If it was such a bad product people would be complaining.

Go troll somewhere else lol

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#6806082 - 01/02/13 09:08 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: loudsubz]
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its pretty obvious OP should just buy a new house
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#6806101 - 01/02/13 09:16 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Euphoric]
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I wish I could, but I don't have Flexin's or Risky's budget
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#6806103 - 01/02/13 09:17 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB


Delta FL is too expensive and hard to find in some areas.

Unless you have an elephant in your basement than you are fine, thats what the OSB is for to distribute the weight load as well, its not rocket science. If it was such a bad product people would be complaining.

Go troll somewhere else lol


Deltafl was cheaper. Rona son.

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#6806108 - 01/02/13 09:20 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?


No tapconed down, silicone applied to the tapcons before fastening. Makes for a super sturdy floor. Floor will be shitty if you just float the OSB over a membrane, plus good luck finding perfectly flat pieces of osb.

The silicone is to seal the holes in the deltafl? So you used a hammer drill to install the tapcon screws into the concrete. What size tapcons?


hammer drill hole, apply silicone to threads (JUST LIKE DELTA TELLS YOU TO DO, IT'S NOT FUCKING BANANAS!!!!), install. 1/4" tapcons x whatever length you need. And a table saw is pointless, you just need a skill saw, it's not precision cutting.


Bananas. The silicone is most likely not doing squat by the time its screwed down into place. Plus the fact that its unlikley water will ever penetrate any of the holes you drilled. Did you silicone all the cracks in the floor too? lol



You're just mad you didn't put silicone on your shitty wet floor. Enjoy your moisture chump!

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#6806198 - 01/02/13 09:56 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB


Delta FL is too expensive and hard to find in some areas.

Unless you have an elephant in your basement than you are fine, thats what the OSB is for to distribute the weight load as well, its not rocket science. If it was such a bad product people would be complaining.

Go troll somewhere else lol


Deltafl was cheaper. Rona son.


In general Platon can be had cheaper than Delta FL. Delta FL also comes in smaller rolls generally so it may seem cheaer but Price Per Sqaure foot its usually more expensive. Check out the nerds on RFD, they documented it to death avg 0.30 psf for Platon and 0.5X for Delta FL

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#6806200 - 01/02/13 09:56 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: robbbby]
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 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: robbbby
platon is crap! terrible load ratings compared to deltafl.

But ya, I did deltafl + 5/8 OSB

So you OSB was just floating over the deltafl?


No tapconed down, silicone applied to the tapcons before fastening. Makes for a super sturdy floor. Floor will be shitty if you just float the OSB over a membrane, plus good luck finding perfectly flat pieces of osb.

The silicone is to seal the holes in the deltafl? So you used a hammer drill to install the tapcon screws into the concrete. What size tapcons?


hammer drill hole, apply silicone to threads (JUST LIKE DELTA TELLS YOU TO DO, IT'S NOT FUCKING BANANAS!!!!), install. 1/4" tapcons x whatever length you need. And a table saw is pointless, you just need a skill saw, it's not precision cutting.


Bananas. The silicone is most likely not doing squat by the time its screwed down into place. Plus the fact that its unlikley water will ever penetrate any of the holes you drilled. Did you silicone all the cracks in the floor too? lol



You're just mad you didn't put silicone on your shitty wet floor. Enjoy your moisture chump!


I embrace the wetness, nobody likes going in dry

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#6806205 - 01/02/13 09:58 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: loudsubz]
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Wayne, if you need a hand let me know. I might wanna borrow that 100-400mm again
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#6806295 - 01/02/13 10:29 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: LNXGUY]
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yet another mike holmes thread special
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#6806544 - 01/03/13 05:51 AM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Wayne, if you need a hand let me know. I might wanna borrow that 100-400mm again


I'll send a PM to all the CSI Mike Holmes when I get all the materials etc \:\)

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#6806559 - 01/03/13 06:19 AM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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#6806885 - 01/03/13 10:39 AM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
^^ Haha, yeah, dricore, don't know why I typed drilock
Wife is also bugging me to do infloor heating, anyone install this?

http://www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/floor-heating/hardwood-heating


seriously?

heated steering wheel and now heated floors?

has your wife ever heard of wearing slippers for cold floors or gloves for cold steering wheel?!?!!
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#6806889 - 01/03/13 10:42 AM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: c2k]
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Heated floors rock, esp in the bathroom
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#6806923 - 01/03/13 11:01 AM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: loudsubz]
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Heated floors rock, esp in the bathroom

Yes, they do! Even better when you have a towel warmer.

 Originally Posted By: c2k
 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
^^ Haha, yeah, dricore, don't know why I typed drilock
Wife is also bugging me to do infloor heating, anyone install this?

http://www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/floor-heating/hardwood-heating


seriously?

heated steering wheel and now heated floors?

has your wife ever heard of wearing slippers for cold floors or gloves for cold steering wheel?!?!!

You have no idea how nice a heated steering wheel is in the middle of winter!

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#6808216 - 01/03/13 07:19 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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My current house the previous owner used the dricore subfloor tiles,900 sq ft basement must of cost the guy huge bucks! We can definatly stay down here comfortably.I wanted to use them at my old house but they were to costly so I just threw the laminate over the concrete(with the thickest underlay) and boy was it cold down there.So for me,yes I feel the difference in comfort level.
My kids will actually stay down there for hours without bugging us now.

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#6808303 - 01/03/13 08:01 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: qwiksi]
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Anyone have a wholesale account to get dricore at a discount?
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#6808345 - 01/03/13 08:19 PM Re: basement subfloor question [Re: Chocolate Canuck]
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you have too much money to burn if you insist on dricore.
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