#6843302 - 01/19/13 03:35 AM
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Rumbelstiltskin
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Hate to bring this up but Julie Fingar, Race Director of Way Too Cool said this:
"As I re-entered the world of running, I did so with caution and care. I religiously followed the ten percent rule and incorporated lots of cross training. I followed the Run Less, Run Faster plan, which had me running only three days per week (speed, tempo and long). Sure I wanted to stay healthy, but more than anything I wanted to keep running. It occurred to me that I wanted to continue to run for a very long time…I had visions of myself being one of five in my age group when I was 80 years old. Depends and all. You can’t get there if you’re beating up your body.
And guess what? Only eight months after my stress fracture, I qualified for Boston!!"
Sounds like CFE? 
I'm not completely serious or trying to justify anything but ever since people started showing me non CFE training guides I find something similar.
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#6843380 - 01/19/13 08:22 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Ampsman in Extremis
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When training for an ultramarathon, Ms. Fingar runs about 70 miles a week, far fewer than the 100 miles that many other ultramarathoners log weekly.
She is still putting down lots of miles...just less than many other ultra runners, its all relative.
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#6843473 - 01/19/13 10:13 AM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Hate to bring this up but Julie Fingar, Race Director of Way Too Cool said this: "As I re-entered the world of running, I did so with caution and care. I religiously followed the ten percent rule and incorporated lots of cross training. I followed the Run Less, Run Faster plan, which had me running only three days per week ( speed, tempo and long). Sure I wanted to stay healthy, but more than anything I wanted to keep running. It occurred to me that I wanted to continue to run for a very long time…I had visions of myself being one of five in my age group when I was 80 years old. Depends and all. You can’t get there if you’re beating up your body. And guess what? Only eight months after my stress fracture, I qualified for Boston!!" Sounds like CFE? I'm not completely serious or trying to justify anything but ever since people started showing me non CFE training guides I find something similar.
Maybe it does, but when we asked about long runs you said something like "volume isn't our priority". Yet you highlighted the word long. So does CFE do long runs or not?
To me what this person describes sounds like a normal running program to me. Many programs actually follow the 3 quality runs a week mantra. I've never ran more than 3x a week(though I may when I got for an ultra this year).
And how does your CFE folow the 10% rule again? Didn't you struggle to run 3 miles in January and you're "running" 20 in February and doing your full within 12 weeks of you starting training.
keep thinking you won't be miserable after your full
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#6843927 - 01/19/13 04:22 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Rumbelstiltskin
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Hate to bring this up but Julie Fingar, Race Director of Way Too Cool said this: "As I re-entered the world of running, I did so with caution and care. I religiously followed the ten percent rule and incorporated lots of cross training. I followed the Run Less, Run Faster plan, which had me running only three days per week ( speed, tempo and long). Sure I wanted to stay healthy, but more than anything I wanted to keep running. It occurred to me that I wanted to continue to run for a very long time…I had visions of myself being one of five in my age group when I was 80 years old. Depends and all. You can’t get there if you’re beating up your body. And guess what? Only eight months after my stress fracture, I qualified for Boston!!" Sounds like CFE? I'm not completely serious or trying to justify anything but ever since people started showing me non CFE training guides I find something similar. Maybe it does, but when we asked about long runs you said something like "volume isn't our priority". Yet you highlighted the word long. So does CFE do long runs or not? To me what this person describes sounds like a normal running program to me. Many programs actually follow the 3 quality runs a week mantra. I've never ran more than 3x a week(though I may when I got for an ultra this year). And how does your CFE folow the 10% rule again? Didn't you struggle to run 3 miles in January and you're "running" 20 in February and doing your full within 12 weeks of you starting training. keep thinking you won't be miserable after your full
Point is CFE isn't that different that what this chick is doing.
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#6844050 - 01/19/13 05:43 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Rumbelstiltskin
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I know your intentions are good, and if I should listen to someones advice on running here it would be yours. So how about this, if I fail pretty bad, I'll use any method of training you ask me to do after March. 
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#6861182 - 01/28/13 11:57 AM
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MonkeyStillAlive
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Welp...last run of any significance tonight. 10 miles at a 6:59 pace. Just have a couple of 2 and 3 milers this week, then the race on sunday. Feeling pretty good!
Crazy fast! Good luck on your BQ.
BTW, What does it take to qualify?
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#6861459 - 01/28/13 01:21 PM
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Sir Ironpool
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Off to a good start for january. YEAR-TO-DATE Distance 197.8mi Time 26hr 6m Elev Gain 16,014ft Runs 24 Going to try and do a 50k in march and april and then my 50 miler in may. I did 20 yesterday with 3800 ft elevation and felt good, but it was still hard to fathom doing that again and then an extra 10 after that to make it to 50. I guess thats what makes it a mental game after a certain point. 
Nice numbers! I know what you mean about 50 miles seeming impossible. The good thing about me stressing over this marathon is that its making me really look forward to W2C. Even though its 5 miles longer, I know it will be a much more laid back experience.
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#6864785 - 01/29/13 10:27 PM
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Ran a new PR 18:58 5k training run last night. So much for taking it easy. 
Jesus! That's BLAZING. 
I haven't run since 1/8. Fucked the knee thoroughly that day. I'll give it a shot again in a couple of weeks, hopefully.
Good luck w/ the next race. 
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#6873323 - 02/02/13 04:54 PM
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Would you all be so kind as to post up your daily training shoes? If I get the okay to run next week, I think I will want something with a bit more cushion than my NB minimus. I hate running in my Kinvara2's however. They feel way too soft, like my feet sink into the shoes.
I prefer to run sockless and I dislike the heel cushion to come up high enough to rub on my achilles.
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#6873362 - 02/02/13 05:28 PM
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Ampsman in Extremis
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Would you all be so kind as to post up your daily training shoes? If I get the okay to run next week, I think I will want something with a bit more cushion than my NB minimus. I hate running in my Kinvara2's however. They feel way too soft, like my feet sink into the shoes.
I prefer to run sockless and I dislike the heel cushion to come up high enough to rub on my achilles.
I would recommend trying out the brooks pure line...low drop, decent cushion and good for running sockless.
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#6873387 - 02/02/13 05:43 PM
Re: Running/Cardio Thread
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Would you all be so kind as to post up your daily training shoes? If I get the okay to run next week, I think I will want something with a bit more cushion than my NB minimus. I hate running in my Kinvara2's however. They feel way too soft, like my feet sink into the shoes.
I prefer to run sockless and I dislike the heel cushion to come up high enough to rub on my achilles. I would recommend trying out the brooks pure line...low drop, decent cushion and good for running sockless.
I tried one of their shoes last year...felt like there was a ball under my forefoot and the shoe also felt like my foot was rolling forward...kinda how I envision Shape Ups feeling...like you are rolling forward.
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#6875472 - 02/03/13 10:17 PM
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gamby
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Impressive run nonetheless.
I'm surprised the Boston requires that fast of a qualification time. How do a ton of slow people end up making it in there then???
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#6876632 - 02/04/13 02:22 PM
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gamby
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117 out of 2274 is fucking awesome no matter how you slice it. That's a powerhouse performance. Being in better than the top 10% of the men is just as great.
That fear of cramping is scary. On long, hot rides, I start feeling my hamstrings threatening it and I'm just like FFFFFFFUUUUUUU this is gonna SUCK. 
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