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#6707091 - 11/12/12 08:27 AM New drive clean test?
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So it looks like we have to do an OBD test now rather than the current tailpipe sniff. This is going to suck for the Collola we have that has a check engine light on.

Act fast on Drive Clean loophole

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#6707106 - 11/12/12 08:36 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: SiRice]
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This is how its done in Cali.
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#6707115 - 11/12/12 08:38 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: SiRice]
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http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php?...rue#Post6429684


imo its easier to keep everything happy with just an odb scan. You cant fake a tailpipe reading.... ah well good for modded cars with happy oem computers.
not so much if you are running an aftermarket computer.


They need to ditch this scam already.
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#6707151 - 11/12/12 08:52 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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I've been reading that the OBD scan is going to be a bit PITA. I don't know a ton about the systems, but it appears they're pretty damn intelligent, and passing won't be as easy as hitting the "reset codes" button on your scanner and driving into the facility:

http://www.wheels.ca/news/get-cracking-on-e-test-to-avoid-a-retest/

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Further, the new test checks the status of the self-tests, also known as monitors. If the monitor self-tests haven’t been successfully completed, a Drive Clean fail will ensue. Erasing the on-board computer memory with a scan tool or by disconnecting the battery will clear all the monitors and again yield an automatic Drive Clean failure.

Once cleared, it could take two to four days of combined city and highway driving to allow the monitors to complete self-tests on most well-running vehicles. So, don’t wait until the last moment to get your car e-tested. Should your vehicle fail, it may take several days to complete the necessary repairs and get the monitors ready for a retest.


Sounds like someone can make some good money learning how to, ahem, handle OBD-II systems from their garage. ;\)

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#6707175 - 11/12/12 09:03 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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as long as youve been driving around with the cel off for a while itll be fine.


also other ways to see the readiness. Some scanners do it.

torque can do it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPMwr2730JA

and its not all that hard to make those things happy ;\)
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#6707177 - 11/12/12 09:05 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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Such a bullshit system. One issue I have is most vehicles have a 2-trip logic system, meaning it has to see the same issue twice before triggering a hard code. Apparently the drive clean test will flag rediness or soft codes. Even if there isn't a faulty componant you could still fail.
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#6707368 - 11/12/12 10:16 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Violent Spectre]
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My ECU is flash to Stage 2, I wonder if I will pass the e-test...hmmm
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#6707383 - 11/12/12 10:21 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: iamfob]
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This will be interesting seeing that I've got zero emissions shit on the car

I'm sure my tuner can fool all the monitors though.
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#6707402 - 11/12/12 10:27 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: iamfob]
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 Originally Posted By: iamfob
My ECU is flash to Stage 2, I wonder if I will pass the e-test...hmmm
no problems at all
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#6707556 - 11/12/12 11:32 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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W T F...does this mean they are going to hook up the OBD on my 335d? THAT'S AWESOME!!!

There's a local tuner in Oakville that does ECU tunes and he can also ditch the DEF system...oh yeah!!!
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#6707740 - 11/12/12 12:27 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
This will be interesting seeing that I've got zero emissions shit on the car

I'm sure my tuner can fool all the monitors though.


oh yeah for sure he can.
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#6707929 - 11/12/12 01:24 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade
W T F...does this mean they are going to hook up the OBD on my 335d? THAT'S AWESOME!!!

There's a local tuner in Oakville that does ECU tunes and he can also ditch the DEF system...oh yeah!!!



Neetronics in Oakville?
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#6707982 - 11/12/12 01:38 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: iamfob]
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I think he meant HyperDuck Tuning
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#6707998 - 11/12/12 01:44 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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#6708079 - 11/12/12 02:09 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Chocolate Troll]
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Lmao hyperduck
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#6708337 - 11/12/12 03:44 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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what if i'm running with k-pro? would that give me any issues?
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#6708433 - 11/12/12 04:06 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: zaius]
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No. its oem computer based.

Its if you are running a standalone that doesnt have obd protocol where youll have issues(aem ems,haltech etc)
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#6709889 - 11/13/12 08:42 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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My car passed with the new system ( RSX with bolt on mods race header with highflow cat) and Hondata reflash (pre kpro) \:\)


I wonder if my car will pass now since I'm on kpro
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#6709929 - 11/13/12 09:03 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Huy009]
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#6709983 - 11/13/12 09:23 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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we just had ours done about a month ago on some work trucks (chevy astro) and they still put it on the rollers and stuck it up the bum bum
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#6710076 - 11/13/12 10:01 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: loudsubz]
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Not all locations are doing the new test yet. AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.



and for the millionth time to the k pro homers
The KPro does not change the OBDII scan protocol
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#6710143 - 11/13/12 10:27 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.



WRONG! But thanks for playing.

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#6710156 - 11/13/12 10:32 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.



WRONG! But thanks for playing.


for now ...actually..yes and if they phase out the rollers youll still have your tail pipe sniffed. It even states that in the article .Pls try again
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#6710187 - 11/13/12 10:42 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
Not all locations are doing the new test yet. AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.



and for the millionth time to the k pro homers
The KPro does not change the OBDII scan protocol


Truck was a 2007 and its funny we went to 3 different locations to get the test done as some of them couldn't get the truck on the rollers with the NG tank under the rear and with the truck loaded down with tools. 2 were CT locations the other was an independent place.

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#6710189 - 11/13/12 10:42 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
AND if the car is older than 97 itll go on the rollers.



WRONG! But thanks for playing.


for now ...actually..yes and if they phase out the rollers youll still have your tail pipe sniffed. It even states that in the article .Pls try again


Article doesn't say that at all.

Fact is: Jan 1, 2013 the roller test is dead.

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#6710198 - 11/13/12 10:43 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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snail pipe sniffed for 97 and older. stfu

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Cars, vans and light trucks of model-years 1988 to 1997 aren’t OBD compatible and will receive a tailpipe test, similar to the current test.
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#6710201 - 11/13/12 10:44 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
snail pipe sniffed for 97 and older. stfu

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Cars, vans and light trucks of model-years 1988 to 1997 aren’t OBD compatible and will receive a tailpipe test, similar to the current test.


You said it goes on the rollers.

It doesn't.

Want me to quote it again?

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#6710237 - 11/13/12 10:54 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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well for the time being it still goes on the rollers.... and after.. they still get sniffed.

want me to come show you?
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#6710241 - 11/13/12 10:55 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: Euphoric]
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I don't want you sniffing my tailpipe.

Come January all the old cars get the two-speed idle test.

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#6710253 - 11/13/12 10:59 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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For anyone who needs more information about the new program:

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/environment/en/category/drive_clean/STDPROD_080001

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#6710329 - 11/13/12 11:23 AM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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Motherfucking dyno tests for diesels! (If you can't do the OBD test for whatever reason)
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#6710463 - 11/13/12 12:06 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: LNXGUY]
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Motherfucking dyno tests for diesels! (If you can't do the OBD test for whatever reason)




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#6710480 - 11/13/12 12:12 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: eddie _82 ]
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will this work w/ my civic running on k-pro? running ihe with a 16g turbo here, y0.

dun h8.


Edited by c2k (11/13/12 12:12 PM)
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#6710533 - 11/13/12 12:28 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: loudsubz]
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CT is still running the old way. As per my thread we already had on this topic Oil changers is the only confirmed place by anyone posting here that is doing the new test .
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#6710534 - 11/13/12 12:28 PM Re: New drive clean test? [Re: LNXGUY]
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Motherfucking dyno tests for diesels! (If you can't do the OBD test for whatever reason)


Most places don't have an AWD dyno.

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