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#65925 - 12/09/04 07:33 PM What causes negative Camber?
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is there something to look before installing your coilovers?
or is it like install and see

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#65926 - 12/09/04 08:05 PM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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you speak as if negative camber is a bad thing......
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#65927 - 12/09/04 08:22 PM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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The more u lower ur car, the more negative camber you'll have.

If u plan on lowering it a lot & don't want a lot of neg. camber then just install a camber kit on ur car
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#65928 - 12/09/04 09:06 PM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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lowering springs, sagged springs and blown shocks
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#65929 - 12/09/04 09:19 PM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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negative camber is a just a product of the double wishbone suspension design. as the suspension compresses, negative camber increases, which improves lateral grip.

lowering your car compresses your suspension, and gives you more static negative camber.

it also increases toe out up front, which will wear your tires faster than just some negative camber. so make sure you get an alignment after you lower your car.

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#65930 - 12/09/04 10:16 PM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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lowering springs, sagged springs and blown shocks




Please stop spreading false info. I don't know where you are getting it but please know what you are talking about before saying it. Shocks don't do anything for ride height or camber. Mkay!
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#65931 - 12/10/04 12:02 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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negative camber is a just a product of the double wishbone suspension design. as the suspension compresses, negative camber increases, which improves lateral grip.

lowering your car compresses your suspension, and gives you more static negative camber.

it also increases toe out up front, which will wear your tires faster than just some negative camber. so make sure you get an alignment after you lower your car.




definitely get an alignment asap, it'll eat your tires like nothing.
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#65932 - 12/10/04 11:04 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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camber during compression of the suspension is known as dynamic camber and is necessary or else your negative camber turns into positive camber during weight shifts and body roll. it's nothing more than a charactoristic feature of a double-arm suspension set up.
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#65933 - 12/15/04 12:01 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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Will the skunk2 upper arms with adjustable camber help if your car is slammed i mean tires tucking (stock si rims with 195-55-15)?
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#65934 - 12/15/04 06:05 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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#65935 - 12/17/04 10:23 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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Yes. We can get you the skunk2 arms or the Omni-Power arms which are almost identical. Negative camber is good depending on your application. If your vehicle is a daily driver, you will be happier with closer to zero degree camber. And so will your tires! If your car is predominately for show, race, autox, than that is a different story.
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#65936 - 12/17/04 11:32 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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Yes. We can get you the skunk2 arms or the Omni-Power arms which are almost identical. Negative camber is good depending on your application. If your vehicle is a daily driver, you will be happier with closer to zero degree camber. And so will your tires! If your car is predominately for show, race, autox, than that is a different story.




actually toe is more of a tire wear factor then camber. i have driven on the street with over 2 degress of negative camber and my tires are fine, now with the 1/8" toe on one side from a pot hole, the tire is warn on the inside and is dying fast.
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#65937 - 12/17/04 12:02 PM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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yeah because the other day a buddy of mine showed me his Teg. he has 2 inch drop on his stock 94 GSR shocks. just some generic Race springs he's using.
there seems to be little to no camber
toe in and out, how does that work

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#65938 - 12/18/04 04:39 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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toe-in is when the front of the tires are closer together than the rear and toe-out is the opposite. toe has to be set just right or your tires go bye-bye. when you turn, the wheels aren't parralel since the inside has a shorter radius to travel so the outside tire isn't turned in as far as the inside. if the toe isn't set correctly, then you will have a tire dragging slightly because it isn't turned to the right angle....am I making any sense? I know what I mean in my head...I would make a lousy teacher.

and toe has to be set biased to either in or out, I forget which. it is set this way when stopped and the wheels straight [static] so that when you are in motion, it settles to neutral toe.

I don't know exactly how low my car is dropped [adjustable springs and I didn't measure before-hand], but I have over 2* negative camber and my tires are worn on the inside for two reasons: 1) I don't think the shop I went to did a good job on the alignment and 2) I didn't rotate early enough.
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#65939 - 12/19/04 09:13 PM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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here's a diagram of toe. greatly exaggerated, but you get the point:

looking DOWN on the car:

Fronts with toe OUT

\-------/
.....|.....
.....|.....
|-------|


Fronts with toe IN

/-------\
.....|.....
.....|.....
|-------|

when you lower the car, the front end toes out some. Most people can only see camber, so they blame the tire wear on "bad camber" instead of the toe out.

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#65940 - 12/21/04 09:05 AM Re: What causes negative Camber?
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toe-in is when the front of the tires are closer together than the rear and toe-out is the opposite. toe has to be set just right or your tires go bye-bye. when you turn, the wheels aren't parralel since the inside has a shorter radius to travel so the outside tire isn't turned in as far as the inside. if the toe isn't set correctly, then you will have a tire dragging slightly because it isn't turned to the right angle....am I making any sense? I know what I mean in my head...I would make a lousy teacher.



that's called 'Akerman'

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#9089868 - 07/27/17 02:54 AM Re: What causes negative Camber? [Re: Bo Mook]
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Masters certifications are differentiated by simply post-nominal words that indicated the standard of academic achievements, honor as well as office students has received. The most popular areas involving online education and learning masters amount study are generally: educationmaster.us
Actually these OSEP document can make it clear that this school day for the child which has a disability mustn't be longer as well as shorter as opposed to school morning for standard education individuals. Since a youngster would get less informative time this is a refusal of FAPE. educationtime.us
No speculate many the younger generation are alienated (along with I'm certainly not condoning your behaviour by a lot of them) after they see your massive gap relating to the 'haves' plus the 'have-nots'. Along with our education and learning systems, it should be said, do little to further improve that. youngeducation.us
Why's this consequently? It's since Halloween can be used! You could decorate and search fabulous in the most searched forward for you to Halloween party as well as, bring along your canine and create him don an lovely pet costume also. adorablepet.us
Joe Slavin will be the creator in the dearhamster.com website, where you can can post messages and discuss your pets. Why not visit his site where you can read more information about hamsters and post your favourite hamster story. cutepet.us
Finding Chicago, il area puppy stores isn't problem, just make certain that the one you choose on has each of the above conditions met knowning that you experience safe using your purchase of your respective new puppy. petshope.us
We most need company. Pets can be a primary method to obtain great firm and devotion. Sometimes the idea just is just not possible to experience a furry friend at your residence. This is if it's good take into consideration having a new feathered close friend. petsinformation.us
I have courses stories to see of each of our mishaps, accidents along with downright hilarious experiences using pet resting many sorts of pets for several kinds involving clients. petsstory.us
Another way that one could keep your dogs via biting is to make certain they recognize biting certainly won't be acknowledged. When your canine friend dog hits you, discrete a high in volume howl and say to them NO. This will say to them that gnawing in is painful and yes it mustn't be done. petsbite.com
Different animals should be treated in any other case, so it is important to get proper know-how about all your animals otherwise you could possibly end up not simply putting on your own in difficulties your dogs and cats too. petsknowledge.com
Using devices raising in price ranges nowadays, pet insurance policies are turning out to be popular. Many owners are considering applying for these kinds of insurance because of their favored pets to conserve health proper care costs especially when their dogs and cats get sick and tired or harmed. favorpets.com
Clearly, these apparel for athletics are planned primarily pertaining to safety and simplicity of the players but these kind of have furthermore outstanding fashion according to the designers along with makers in the same. convenientsports.com
The best thing about a new statistical approach knowning that the sector is right now is that one could bet on a number of sports across the globe. You can also bet in sports you are sure that absolutely nothing at all about. You're likely to be winning kitchen table bets throughout China, Britain, The US, Italy, Paris, france, and various other countries all as well. Sportsapproach.com
These are are just some of the exciting sports that men and women like to view. There are nevertheless more when compared with these, but we've got found if we polled a lot of people, this can be what that they really pay attention for. It's alternatively thrilling to view the many various countries add up. Now, you'll be able to choose to observe these athletics or you'll be able to choose to observe something in addition. SportsOlympic.com

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