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#5966774 - 12/01/11 03:06 PM Can we talk about cars?
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My heart hurts after reading the car threads in Out There.

What have you driven lately? I test drove a 2004 M3 last Friday (not for me, rotary 4 life/50,000 miles) with the SMG transmission and I'm pretty sure I found my next car, whenever that time comes. That ITB I6 sounds wicked from the drivers seat and it's fun to rip off lightning quick shifts. I'll still get a manual because I think that the novelty wears off quickly with them fancy new trannies and I'll bet most people just leave it in auto mode most of the time.

What a drive. It hides the weight well, and there is power everywhere with a rush to redline that speaks to my boner. Not too much to find fault with, and on top of it all it had the best paint color of any BMW:



Bonus: this video is funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnMEPx3-PUk
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#5966796 - 12/01/11 03:10 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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My mom is thinking about moving into a smaller house, which means no more 4 car garage, which means my Alfa project may finally die on the vine.
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#5966800 - 12/01/11 03:11 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: scootergeek]
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I haven't driven a fun car in 4 years and even then it was only a Nissan Maxima.

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#5966815 - 12/01/11 03:14 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: scootergeek]
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Well, at least she's only thinking about it for the time being. If it comes to that, your GTi isn't too shabby and is deserving of your enthusiast energy.
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#5966923 - 12/01/11 03:50 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
Well, at least she's only thinking about it for the time being. If it comes to that, your GTi isn't too shabby and is deserving of your enthusiast energy.


If I have to sell it, I'm throwing the proceeds at the VW - if I part it out I ought to be able to scrounge enough for a 1.8T.
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#5967050 - 12/01/11 04:30 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: scootergeek]
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I recently removed the CAI and Cobb AP from my Mazdaspeed3. It's amazing the difference $700 in mods makes to those things. Going backwards sucks, but compromises must be made if I want to keep the GSX from partout territory. I will be buying another Cobb AP when I have more money, it's literally night and day with how much faster and smoother it is with one in the car.
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#5967149 - 12/01/11 05:03 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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I still break out in laughter when I drive the GTI. Fuck you old men.
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#5967293 - 12/01/11 06:02 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ReplicaR]
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#5967428 - 12/01/11 06:49 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ]
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I like having a backseat and a trunk too much, otherwise I would probably still be in a Miata. There's no reason to get rid of my car, but that test drive brought out the new car hunger pangs. BMW knows what's up.
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#5967576 - 12/01/11 07:42 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ]
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I don't really think I've driven a fast car before

I'll stick to high trq, low hp diesels.

Although my oldmans Duramax (500hp/900ftlbs) gets up and goes if the tires stick \:\) I like passing people with the 5th wheel and the boat attached.
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#5967758 - 12/01/11 09:01 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
I like having a backseat and a trunk too much, otherwise I would probably still be in a Miata. There's no reason to get rid of my car, but that test drive brought out the new car hunger pangs. BMW knows what's up.


Plus, even as a Z owner, I'm not afraid to say that the e46 m3 puts the HR Z to shame except for performance. m3s are just sweet cars. Every one I've driven has always given me goose bumps, and that includes the e36 back in the day...
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#5967782 - 12/01/11 09:46 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ]
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I have those concerns and I would only consider the more solid '03+ cars. I DD a rotary, how bad could a BMW be? ;\)

LNXGUY - That's one way to never miss driving a fast car \:D

cliff - Definitely. I like 370s and HR 350s, but the M3 just does it for me in a way those cars don't. It's so good at everything.
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#5967975 - 12/01/11 11:06 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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I had convinced myself that I was happy with mid horsepower cars...that was until I drove my truck with the new 408. 500+ NA hp is a hell of a drug...
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#5968085 - 12/02/11 12:03 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: UglyValiant]
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I finally had a chance to drag the GN outta hiding for one last pre-winter blast. Filled up the meth tank and spent a couple of hours leaving nice matching sets of black marks on almost every on-ramp within 10 miles of my house. Then I decided to give it a good wash, which went great until the battery decided to die. Ah well, I just jogged the mile or so to my house and got my jumper pack. Don't know yet if its battery or alternator, might not be till spring till I get it figured out.

But anyway, I love those outings in the GN because it reminds me how much fun the M3 is. The Buick's great for getting that hit of speed, but the bimmer's so much more fun to drive in every other possible situation. Except for trying to get laid, I suppose.
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#5968201 - 12/02/11 01:33 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: theLoon]
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Now rocking a bus pass & zipcar membership. It's pretty sweet, and will probably continue until I get old and move to a suburb or something.
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#5968384 - 12/02/11 07:39 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Vandemar]
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Mom just got a '10 C300 sport AWD. I've only sat in it and admired the interior, since it's unregistered, but I'm sure I'll get to play with it this weekend.
She actually found a nice one; It's arctic white with grey interior and has most options added. The only thing I'm not a fan of, is the center console. It's pretty blah, compared to the rest of the car. it's just this black rubbery crap, with little detail, and the display is about a foot away from the actual radio/Bluetooth.


Anyways, I'm excited to drive it, but I'm a little sad there's going to be one less Swede in the family pretty shortly.
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#5968409 - 12/02/11 08:13 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: g96nt]
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too bad the e46 has always been so boring looking to me. great heart in it though.(but shitty sounding exhaust ) and obviously nice cars overall.

manual>smg

part prices for the e46 arent bad and really the only "extras" that are possibly expensive is the oil for that engine(10w60) and valve adjustments. the rest of it is fine. i wouldnt let out of warranty scare you if you can turn a wrench...not that it will necessarily need a lot. just keep in mind those cars are hard on bushings etc in that you cant leave them for 15 yrs like a honda and its still kinda ok.

if you do consider one just make sure you get it checked out(ppi) by a place that knows the cars. it could save you from buying something that needs everything replaced if it was neglected.

one that was cared for will be nice. plenty of examples of s54 going well north of 200k miles with no issues.
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#5968493 - 12/02/11 09:01 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I thought this was just a general talk about cars, not E46 M3's specifically \:\) With that said, I have always, and probably will always want one. They are understated but so gorgeous in my eyes \:\)
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#5968503 - 12/02/11 09:06 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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why cant general talk include more than one post about a specific car?
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#5968525 - 12/02/11 09:14 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Haha, no i was just referring to my first post which has absolutely nothing to do with the OP \:\)
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#5968543 - 12/02/11 09:24 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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 Originally Posted By: ElectronVTEC2
I recently removed the CAI and Cobb AP from my Mazdaspeed3. It's amazing the difference $700 in mods makes to those things. Going backwards sucks, but compromises must be made if I want to keep the GSX from partout territory. I will be buying another Cobb AP when I have more money, it's literally night and day with how much faster and smoother it is with one in the car.


AP already sold?

I pulled the CAI and the billet valve from the car as I was taking it in for some warranty work. Those two mods made such a nice difference, it's night and day driving the car now \:\(

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#5968650 - 12/02/11 10:03 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: AMG SiR]
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Yea, the AP sold in literally 10 minutes from the time I posted it, for $50 less than what I paid several months ago. I will get another, it's just such a smoother power delivery with that thing in place. I haven't sold the CAI and may not, they don't get much on the used market so it's really not worth me selling it.
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#5968979 - 12/02/11 11:46 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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#5969208 - 12/02/11 12:59 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ScottStaypuff]
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None of your builds are "current" Scott. "{Forever} Ongoing" is more appropriate
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#5969580 - 12/02/11 02:30 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: GB]
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I'm sitting on the fence of whether to finish the Miata. $4-5K on FI seems like it might be good money after bad since it's probably only worth about that on a good day. Toying with buying an NB, swapping all the good bits over (hardtop, suspension) and selling it, but that'd put me another $4K into the project, though I do think I'd like an NB over an NA. Oh well, in garage it sits for now.
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#5969653 - 12/02/11 02:53 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: tylerdurden]
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Tyler, just keep what you need to to convert it back to N/A if you ever sell it, and then sell the car and the kit separately to get back more of your money than selling them both together. Gotta pay to play, unfortunately \:\(
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#5969671 - 12/02/11 03:00 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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finished my civic, drove it for 1 week, then parked it for the winter, lol. puts a smile on my face when i drive it though. 480whp is completely useless in the cold. should be better in the warmer weather.
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#5969676 - 12/02/11 03:02 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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When thinking about amount sunk into a car vs. amount you could sell the car for, if you're any kind of car guy at all, you also have to figure in the value of the fun and joy that having a modded car brings to you prior to selling.

Non-car guys are very vocal about "depreciating assets", but they're idiots who miss out on the point of having an enthusiast car in the first place. It's not about making money or limiting the amount you lose, it's about getting the most out of what you love.
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#5969683 - 12/02/11 03:04 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
too bad the e46 has always been so boring looking to me. great heart in it though.(but shitty sounding exhaust ) and obviously nice cars overall.

manual>smg

part prices for the e46 arent bad and really the only "extras" that are possibly expensive is the oil for that engine(10w60) and valve adjustments. the rest of it is fine. i wouldnt let out of warranty scare you if you can turn a wrench...not that it will necessarily need a lot. just keep in mind those cars are hard on bushings etc in that you cant leave them for 15 yrs like a honda and its still kinda ok.

if you do consider one just make sure you get it checked out(ppi) by a place that knows the cars. it could save you from buying something that needs everything replaced if it was neglected.

one that was cared for will be nice. plenty of examples of s54 going well north of 200k miles with no issues.


Yup, I got a guy. After doing some research it sounds like these cars aren't nearly the maintenance nightmare the internet portrays them as. Just like my car ;\)

You have to be selective with aftermarket exhausts, but bone stock they sound glorious from the driver's seat. The ITB induction noise mixed in with a raspy 8200 rpm I6 exhaust: HNNNNNNNGGGGGG
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#5969703 - 12/02/11 03:10 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: tylerdurden]
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 Originally Posted By: tylerdurden
I'm sitting on the fence of whether to finish the Miata. $4-5K on FI seems like it might be good money after bad since it's probably only worth about that on a good day. Toying with buying an NB, swapping all the good bits over (hardtop, suspension) and selling it, but that'd put me another $4K into the project, though I do think I'd like an NB over an NA. Oh well, in garage it sits for now.


Is it your only car?
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#5970047 - 12/02/11 09:20 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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Nah, I have a 2011 Fusion as a company car.
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#5970059 - 12/02/11 09:29 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: tylerdurden]
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Boost your NA then. The benefits of the NB are most apparent in a daily driver.

I doubt you'll regret it. What kind of setup are you thinking about?
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#5970068 - 12/02/11 09:31 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: tylerdurden]
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Last fun cars I drove were the C63 AMG coupe and the CLS 63 AMG. And a few others when Motor Trend was out for Car of the Year testing. That CLS 63 AMG took me to 180mph. Fastest I've ever been.
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#5970070 - 12/02/11 09:31 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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Still on the fence, but I'm kinda thinking of doing an E85 FFS coldside in the 230 whp range. The throttle response seems like it'd be sweet. I need to drive some turbo Miata's (only driven a stock MSM and an M45 NA thus far) to see if the turbo response is "good enough". The power is certainly easier and cheaper with a turbo.
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#5970190 - 12/02/11 10:42 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: tylerdurden]
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I've been out of the buttsex game for awhile and this is the first I've heard of the FFS. It sounds like a killer option and I was just on Autotrader looking at NBs for the last 15 minutes There was a nice BRG '99 with 63k, but the guy was asking 7 grand and that's $1000 over KBB value. What was I saying before about 2 seaters?

Are most people running E85 with that setup? They are advertising ~190whp with their kit sans E85.
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#5970233 - 12/02/11 11:00 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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M3 FTW. I was looking for one myself, but settled for a weaker imitation.
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#5970242 - 12/02/11 11:06 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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Did an oil change on an E30. Took like 12 hours!



Here is the old oil, ready to get out of there:

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There, fixed it!



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#5970305 - 12/02/11 11:56 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: B15Sentra ]
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#5970552 - 12/03/11 07:09 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: theLoon]
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LOL at oil change. My friend and I are building a denmah spec 5.0 mustang with an iron block lsx chevrolet in it. The engine bay is being "simplified" so that engine swaps are as easy as changing the oil. The plan is to run junkyard motors while we are learning FI on v8 and pump gas and when they blow replace them.

As for the OP's post, I really enjoy my evo. Its still too heavy but acts as light as my honda fit when tossing around. I know it has an ACD but it is still a "mechanical" car in action. Unfortunately it has so much grip that its a hard car to learn to go fast in as it covers your mistakes with the AWD. However if you are already fast and most importantly smooth it will be very quick.

The only reason I like driving my DSM is because I know that I'm the baddest thing on the street to 60 mph when sitting at a light. Other than that it is a horrible POS that is hard to steer, can't corner, has horrible brakes, and since I've stripped all the sound deadening off the car I hear every little pebble that taps the car and it resonates through the tin can unibody.

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#5970630 - 12/03/11 09:23 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
I've been out of the buttsex game for awhile and this is the first I've heard of the FFS. It sounds like a killer option and I was just on Autotrader looking at NBs for the last 15 minutes There was a nice BRG '99 with 63k, but the guy was asking 7 grand and that's $1000 over KBB value. What was I saying before about 2 seaters?

Are most people running E85 with that setup? They are advertising ~190whp with their kit sans E85.


No, and if it were a daily, I wouldn't either, I only have one station near me. Some people bitch that it lacks an IC and has a primitive engine management (basically runs a fifth and sixth injector setup to add fuel and cool the charge), but some people have hit 260whp with it and I don't know of a single engine failure. Good looking curve too.

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#5970660 - 12/03/11 09:55 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: GB]
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None of your builds are "current" Scott. "{Forever} Ongoing" is more appropriate


True. Since 06' had a kid, went through a break up with my "baby mama" and a year of court stuff, have my kid 4-5 night a week overnight now, went back to college part time and then gutted/restored a house, working 50hr+ weeks for a few years. (Not necessarily in that order) I've been busy. \:\)

I'm about to ink a deal on selling the house which will give me enough cash to do the cheap build on the Mav and finish the Neon right. Not taking classes or working on a house currently and work has let off a little which gives me some more time. And once the kid starts real school I shouldn't have him so much (baby mama will go to day shift), which sucks but I will make good use of my free time. \:\) themoreyouknow.jpg

Soo.... If anybody has a line on a cheap 351W block in/near Ohio that's in good shape, let me know!
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#5971694 - 12/03/11 09:05 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ScottStaypuff]
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Jesus that swapped e30 is sick.

I got to test drive my friends new '12 s4 on Friday. Gorgeous car inside and out. Felt about as quick as my car but could be deceiving because it was so smooth and quiet. Didnt get to play too much since the car had no miles on it and he just had snows mounted. The power steering assit was a little funny. Really light at low speed and artificially heavy at higher speed. With another 100-150 hp would be a near perfect new england daily.

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#5973977 - 12/05/11 08:00 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Stock94si]
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dude that engine bay is clean as fawk. damn you california
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#5975308 - 12/05/11 03:43 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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That E30 S54 is fucking sick.
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#5975331 - 12/05/11 03:51 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Quad4_driver]
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its an s52...
us spec. ie: not a "real" m engine though that line always made me giggle.
ya it doesnt have individual throttle bodies or dual vanos but its still a modified engine from the younger brethren
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#5975647 - 12/05/11 06:25 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: B15Sentra ]
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 Originally Posted By: B15Sentra
Did an oil change on an E30. Took like 12 hours!



Here is the old oil, ready to get out of there:

(M50TUB25)




There, fixed it!



S52B32
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E30 M3 Suspension bits, including custom valved Bilsteins and J-stock springs
Redone interior, a bunch of "clean" exterior mods that E30 guys are into

Damn good car. E36 M3 tranny going in soon.


Nice lube job.

What does that weigh with the s52 swap?
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#5976407 - 12/05/11 11:53 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
its an s52...
us spec. ie: not a "real" m engine though that line always made me giggle.
ya it doesnt have individual throttle bodies or dual vanos but its still a modified engine from the younger brethren


Whoops. My bad.

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#5976510 - 12/06/11 01:10 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: cliff st-clair]
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 Originally Posted By: cliff st-clair
 Originally Posted By: B15Sentra
Did an oil change on an E30. Took like 12 hours!



Here is the old oil, ready to get out of there:

(M50TUB25)




There, fixed it!



S52B32
I/H/E/Tune
E30 M3 Suspension bits, including custom valved Bilsteins and J-stock springs
Redone interior, a bunch of "clean" exterior mods that E30 guys are into

Damn good car. E36 M3 tranny going in soon.


Nice lube job.

What does that weigh with the s52 swap?


I believe that car sits somewhere in between the 2600-2700lb range. A recipe for success!

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#5977001 - 12/06/11 10:26 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: B15Sentra ]
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Haven't driven anything new lately, not that I imagine anything making me want to dump the Evo. However received some good news recently and I think I may be able to start resurrecting my Mustang sooner than later. It's been a very long time since I've felt a rumbling V8 under my right foot. \:\)
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#5977547 - 12/06/11 12:59 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: LowTech302]
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Other than the car I just picked up I haven't driven anything, especially anything fun, in quite a while...my bro picked up a Street Triple R over the summer and that's been plenty of fun to ride around on from time to time though.
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#5978030 - 12/06/11 03:01 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: LowTech302]
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 Originally Posted By: LowTech302
It's been a very long time since I've felt a rumbling V8 under my right foot. \:\)


I miss that too.
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#5978252 - 12/06/11 06:36 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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My only V8 sucked, but holy fuck did it sound good (Pontiac 301 with dual exhaust and reversed glass packs)
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#5991997 - 12/13/11 09:52 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: scootergeek]
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 Originally Posted By: scootergeek
My only V8 sucked, but holy fuck did it sound good (Pontiac 301 with dual exhaust and reversed glass packs)
That engine is literally a v8 on a technicality only.

Seriously.


Though I would not have minded driving a turbo 301 when newer...before any of the numerous bugs cropped up, if only to see what it was like...
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#5992102 - 12/13/11 10:24 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: UglyValiant]
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 Originally Posted By: UglyValiant
 Originally Posted By: scootergeek
My only V8 sucked, but holy fuck did it sound good (Pontiac 301 with dual exhaust and reversed glass packs)
That engine is literally a v8 on a technicality only.

Seriously.


It was so freaking bad. And it had a Rochester Dual-Jet on top - which was a Quadra-Junk with the secondaries blanked off but otherwise the same casting. 8 miles per gallon with maybe 130ish hp.

The thing that hurt the most was it was a '77 Skylark coupe, but GM lost its mind in 1977 and started throwing whatever they had laying around into whatever chassis was available. It was like russian roulette and I got the single worst V8 they ever made. Pow, right to the head. And I was too young and stupid (and there was no internet) to figure it all out ahead of time.
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#5992229 - 12/13/11 10:56 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: scootergeek]
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Though, to be honest, there were worse v8's.

Pontiac 265
Chevy 262
Ford 255
Olds 260 (which also spawned the beyond bad what-the-hell-were-they-thinking olds diesel[seriously...what the f' were they thinking?!? {gas v8 coverted to diesel?!?}])

Notice a pattern? All ubber small versions of normal v8's, all creatures of the late 70's.

Sure, the chrysler "lean-burn" and fuel injected v8's of the same era were horrid; Great idea, that "lean-burn", but the primitive computers of the era and the fact it had to be vacuum controlled using crude temp devices and egr controls made it unworkable along with none-too-terribly precise for the application fuel metering of a carb. BUT, when you got sick of chasing all the bugs, you could simply throw on a distributer, or in the case of the FI engines, a regular carb and you had a pretty standard reasonably strong, normal sized v8.

The 301 was around 130-ish HP (on a very good day...), but those others were all in the sub-120 range, all with enough vacuum hoses to run from here to...well, 80 feet from here...that's still alot(!), and all were plagued with many of the same running/driveability gremlins that made the lean burns and FI 318's hard to live with.

So while the 301 was bad...it was still quite a bit less horrid than those uber small guys.

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#5992255 - 12/13/11 11:06 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: UglyValiant]
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 Originally Posted By: UglyValiant

So while the 301 was bad...it was still quite a bit less horrid than those uber small guys.



On the other hand, in 1976 my exact same model would have come with a Buick 350. /still bitter after 17 years
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#5992262 - 12/13/11 11:08 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: UglyValiant]
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Well right now I'm on the fence about either building up an LS7-based 440 for my T/A, or picking up a new Regal Turbo (not the GS) after the winter for a daily driver.

I keep waffling and right now there's a 440 shortblock for sale on LS1tech from a guy 2 hours away, and it's really, really tempting to pull the trigger. 10 years with the 346, later aided by spray, was fun but I'm ready for some big cubes.
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#5992273 - 12/13/11 11:10 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: NHRATA01]
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Oh, also I went drag racing at Island a couple weeks ago. Ran a new best.

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#5992322 - 12/13/11 11:24 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: scootergeek]
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 Originally Posted By: scootergeek
On the other hand, in 1976 my exact same model would have come with a Buick 350. /still bitter after 17 years
I like the buick 350, no doubt. Friend has a 71 GS w/ one...it's quite strong and hardy.
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#5992644 - 12/13/11 12:51 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Adam7
I don't get to drive fun cars, I drive a Ford Fusion.

Just rolled over 90k miles this morning in it. It had about 46k when we got married a year and a half ago.

\:\(


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#5997312 - 12/15/11 09:50 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: ]
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- Had my first international race in Argentina, teammate crashed. Three weeks later, local race, crashed myself (vid).
- Planning on racing the 2012 25h of Thunderhill, crash expected.
- Getting better at racing bikes.
- I´m keeping the S2000 FOR EVER. What a car.
- Sold the aircooled 911.
- Sold one of the AE86s. Prepping the other all over again for 2012.
- Bought a JDM Evo 6 TME RS. 1 of 220, I believe. Keep getting back to Evos. Getting shipped from Japan tomorrow.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YpSspDfeYs













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#5997536 - 12/15/11 10:56 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Nurburgring]
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wow, i get to follow all that manliness by telling you guys i drive a 2011 4 cylinder Malibu.
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#5998025 - 12/15/11 01:36 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: DWalk]
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Nurburgring, awesome...simply awesome...
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#5998525 - 12/15/11 04:05 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: cliff st-clair]
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I've got the beater mostly sorted (1997 Hyundai Accent base model hatch, 5spd with a/c and no p/s). 2000 pound cars with manual steering can be surprisingly fun to drive, even if its a shitbox.

Finally replaced the rear tire on the WR250X since I got a flat about a month ago (tire was past the wear bars anyways) and went for a ride the last couple days. I think I'm going to sell it next year, just doesn't "do it" for me anymore and want something different.

New car test drives?

Drove the Fiat 500 a few weeks ago and was wholly unimpressed. Brakes were awesome, handling was more than ok, and the driver's seating position was pretty good but visibility sucked, interior room sucked (I was almost shoulder to shoulder to the salesman), and it was slow. Felt slower than my old oil burning Accent, with a worse ride and less room and less visibility. Reminded me a lot of the Smart FourTwo but with a real transmission and a backseat... the salesman said that was one of their most common trade-ins for the 500.

Test drove a Mazda2 hatch a few months ago, and it was a great peppy little small car, even with the automatic which might have been one of the best least intrusive automatics I've driven.

Sat in a Veloster yesterday. Me likey, a lot. Gonna wait to find a stick version with no options to drive one, but on paper it could make a great DD and stock class autocrosser...

I'm considering the following for next year:

A) New small car, so far the Veloster and Mazda2 are top of my list. HStock autocross and DD. Add a hitch to carry race tires and/or the motorcycle. Or a kart and keeping the car as a DD only.

2) New small pickup to bypass trailer hassles. Thinking another Tacoma, probably another 4cyl 5spd 2wd but getting the factory toolbox(es). Then getting a kart to go with the bike(s) for a racing toy.

III) Finances and good sense have me keeping the Hyundai since in nice weather it will be driven extremely infrequently, it runs decently as is, and I already own it. Add a hitch and build a small HF trailer for bike transport. Selling the WR next year and getting another new or new to me bike or two (one street one dirt) and trying to get a co-drive in someone elses car next season for autocrossing, or getting a kart again.
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#6002092 - 12/17/11 05:43 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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 Originally Posted By: killerbeeVR6
I still break out in laughter when I drive the GTI. Fuck you old men.


< also still has a soft spot for vw's

all i've driven is the same wrx as the last 5 years now. passed 71K a couple days ago...

oh and of course my wife's car, had that for 8 years. i'd like to say it's about time for a changing of the guard, but it's still only 92K miles and has been paid for forever ago.
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#6002499 - 12/18/11 12:49 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: allan r]
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i daily drive a ford f-350 diesel ... with a 5spd lol

So when i drive the EVO(Now with Accessport) i have a blast, its a lot of fun to go fast in,does pretty much everything well. But when i drive the 240 i scare myself ..it still surprises me how much faster it is even tho has the same power more or less as evo..

it also weighs around 2500lbs with cage, has a dash and 2 buckets . i think thats the part that makes me giggle when i touch the gas pedal, and the fact it has no stability control,no ABS,No traction control....im glad that i kept it around still.

oh yah .... Thats my favorite EVO of all time. I love them stock just lowered a bit ....such a rad car, and from the evo nerds that ive talked to the purist of the breed


Edited by PsychoEBPSiR (12/18/11 12:50 AM)
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#6006242 - 12/19/11 07:58 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: B15Sentra ]
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 Originally Posted By: B15Sentra
Did an oil change on an E30. Took like 12 hours!



Here is the old oil, ready to get out of there:

(M50TUB25)




There, fixed it!



S52B32
I/H/E/Tune
E30 M3 Suspension bits, including custom valved Bilsteins and J-stock springs
Redone interior, a bunch of "clean" exterior mods that E30 guys are into

Damn good car. E36 M3 tranny going in soon.



Obvious brag post is obvious


...ly jealousy inspiring

\:\(
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#7377939 - 11/06/13 02:22 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
My heart hurts after reading the car threads in Out There.

This...... bump!
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#7444632 - 12/15/13 11:04 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: Serendipitous]
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I drove a 3000GT that my BIL built/tuned. I also found out I'm horrible at keeping a vehicle tuned on E85 running; I stalled it out 3 times.



/all I got
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#7534291 - 02/03/14 07:17 PM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: allan r]
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 Originally Posted By: allan r
 Originally Posted By: killerbeeVR6
I still break out in laughter when I drive the GTI. Fuck you old men.


< also still has a soft spot for vw's

all i've driven is the same wrx as the last 5 years now. passed 71K a couple days ago...

oh and of course my wife's car, had that for 8 years. i'd like to say it's about time for a changing of the guard, but it's still only 92K miles and has been paid for forever ago.


i thought i posted in this thread lol. we did replace the wife's car nearly a year to the day after this post, with a '13 CX-5. still have that wrx though, now about to turn 96K!
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#7536416 - 02/05/14 05:02 AM Re: Can we talk about cars? [Re: allan r]
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My '85 GTI is now the longest term DD I've ever owned (had it forced on me as part of a Lambretta deal back in '07 - and I sold the scooter years ago).

I need something with more (or at least some) hp, but everything feels so disconnected in comparison.
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