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#554769 - 10/12/06 03:30 PM Need a Quiet 3" Muffler *Edited - pics at the end*
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Right now I have a fart can. With the header, it's unbearably loud. The silencer helps, but everyone told me it cost them a lot of power.

This is what I have:



It's LOUD. A small resonator won't make a huge difference IMO, it needs a real muffler. But I need something that flows, has to be stainless. No welding in Cherry Bombs.

I was thinking of a magnaflow oval like these




Or a Vibrant Oval like this:



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#554770 - 10/12/06 03:38 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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thermal has done well on most cars ive heard.

i really think adding a resonator WILL make a difference.
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#554771 - 10/12/06 03:51 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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It already has a resonator though. Welding in another one would likely do very little and cost almost as much as a much bigger muffler.
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#554772 - 10/12/06 03:54 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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you dont have that much room in there too... hrmm.

it would definately help if you could get one in there. apexi world sport is one of the quieter exhausts out there ..even in 3" format.
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#554773 - 10/12/06 05:08 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I vote that adding a resonator wont do shit, but I dont have any input other than that.
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#554774 - 10/12/06 05:08 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Local shop can do the Magnaflow with tip above for a good price. Maybe I'll have him weld in a 20" long, 4" round body resonator in place of the vibrant resonator as well.

The header made this thing from loud to unberable. It sounds good when you want to get on it, but on a cold morning, it's horrid.
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#554775 - 10/12/06 05:11 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I have found that a single in dual tipped muffler is a lot quieter than the big grapefruit shooter that is offered with most systems.

also if there is any space instead of a resonator just buy another muffler and put it inline
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#554776 - 10/12/06 05:13 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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No 3" dual tipped magnaflows (unless I went with "custom" tips).

I really dig the Vibrant flat blacks, but no one carries them around here.
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#554777 - 10/12/06 06:19 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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that magnaflow is pretty quiet on the maxxfab srt4 catback. Adding that and a resonator should work perfect for you.
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#554778 - 10/12/06 07:02 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I had the same Magnaflow oval SS muffler on my old TurboXS system (back when they had the 2.5" axleback section). It sounded nice and rumbly, and it was pretty quiet.

Then I switched it out for a JDM angled CF can.
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#554779 - 10/12/06 08:03 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I really dig the Vibrant flat blacks, but no one carries them around here.




How about ordering one off this new thing called the internet? I tease...


Here's my proposal:

Buy a 3" electric exhaust cutout, install inline with the exhaust. I mean not the "normal" usage as an exhaust bypass. Yes, so it is actually plugging up the exhaust when closed! You will need to drill some small holes in it to allow enough exhaust flow for normal driving. Then when you want to go WOT flip the switch for unrestricted 3" exhaust. If you want to be really cool, wire in a TPS switch and set for 50% throttle or so, so everytime you go full throttle it opens automatically. Bonus points for an extra switch that would allow you to keep it closed at WOT and/or open at will.
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#554780 - 10/12/06 10:53 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I try and keep things simple.

The Vibrant can be ordered on the web, but the Magnaflow locally is cheaper and is a nicer peice IMO. Why "rig something up" when a 3" mandrel bent exhaust and a free flow muffler will do the job. All I need is the muffler part.
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#554781 - 10/12/06 10:56 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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screw a cut out..especially for a car that sees winter use. they typically leak/fail.
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#554782 - 10/12/06 11:18 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I dont think any of the straight through style mufflers are going to get you the sound reduction that you want AND not lose any power personally. Its the nature of the beast. Question - Have you tried driving with the silencer in on your fart cannon yet?

I know a lot of autocrossers have luck with supertrapp mufflers, especially when running events with sound restrictions. The only good example I can think of at the moment is the GStock Mini Cooper S's. They make the most power, and noise, with 8-10 discs, but are very quiet yet lose a few HP with fewer discs. Useful when you want to open up for a big event but want ear drums for the drive there or have to keep it under 92dB due to the site's neighbors.
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#554783 - 10/12/06 11:22 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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The silencer works, but it makes the car sound kinda shitty with the header and everyone in the other thread mentioned how much power they cost.
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#554784 - 10/12/06 11:26 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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screw a cut out..especially for a car that sees winter use. they typically leak/fail.




much like your motors

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#554785 - 10/13/06 09:04 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I am running a summit resonator and eBay fart can...sounds good imo for a 4cyl.

Your boxer motor is going to sound different no matter how you do it.

Best thing for you is to sacrafice 10whp for sound in this case since you DD this thing and don't want droaning on the interstate.

I would look into a chambered muffler, not a straight through design...that is where the majority of your sound should be deflected.

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#554786 - 10/13/06 11:27 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Quote:

Quote:

screw a cut out..especially for a car that sees winter use. they typically leak/fail.




much like your motors



Buuuuuuuuuurnnn...

Anyways, not sure how the Magnaflow hack & weld mod will work for you, but I predict that it will cause a lot of droning on the highway, even if it does quiet it down a bit. A chambered muffler will be even worse when it comes to droning.

My suggestion is to just pick up a Greddy EVO2 catback, or something, and just call it a day. At least you'll know for sure that it won't be loud, drone, sound like bent ass, etc.
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#554787 - 10/13/06 11:31 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Magnaflows aren't chambered.
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#554788 - 10/13/06 11:54 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I am running a 3" from the turbo all the way back with a straight thru dynomax bullet resonator and straight thru dynomax welded ultra-flo muffler - i was absolutely astonished at how quiet it was when my buddy welded it up for me. I was so worried that it was going to be drone-y and loud and shit just like my old catback was on my NA maxima (2.25" mandrel with a big long resonator and straight thru N1 style canister muffler) and it is WORLDS quieter than that was. I can give my mom or sister a ride in my car without them mentioning anything - it truly is hardly louder than stock - not enough that anyone unfamiliar with the car would even notice. I couldn't be happier with mine. BTW you can paint it flat black with high temp paint

BTW my setup is quite a bit quieter than my buddy's turbo maxima which has a smaller A/R, and a 2.5" Greddy SP2 (with resonator) which is one of the quieter catbacks out there for my car.

Edit: I just realized you said you require stainless - the dynomax ultra-flos aren't stainless, sorry. Still what I'd recommend though. Another buddy (the one who welded up my exhaust) has had his on through 2 illinois winters now and with it painted with high temp paint, the only hints of rust are where rocks and what not have scratched the paint away - just surface rust nothing to be concerned about yet.

I have some vids that you can hear how mine sounds if you want to hear them (dyno and track vids).
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#554789 - 10/13/06 12:08 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Thanks for the input, any specs on that Ultraflow? (offset in/out, length etc.?)

Some people have told me to try and get a dual outlet or cross flow as they will be quieter than a staight 3" in/out.
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#554790 - 10/13/06 12:25 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Magnaflows aren't chambered.



Yeah, I know. But someone menetioned going with a chambered muffler and that is obviously a bad idea when trying to stay quiet; especially when trying to maintain power on a turbo car.

Also, I'm interested in what Nealoc187 suggested. I've heard a lot of good reviews on the Dynomax stuff in the past...too bad it's not stainless though

Any pics?
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#554791 - 10/13/06 12:30 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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You can get the Ultraflow in Stainless, but if the sizes are comparable, I would think they are almost identical to a Magnaflow in sound/performance.
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#554792 - 10/13/06 12:34 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Hmm. Maybe the key to keeping things quiet is in the resonator then...???

All I know is that a buddy of mine threw a Magnaflow catback on his '02 Si and it was LOUD and droned quite a bit! Sounded like doo-doo butter too
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#554793 - 10/13/06 12:40 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Thing is, I do have a 16" resonator in the catback right now. I am thinking of using a round muffler instead though as there is much more packing in those.

That, with an oval muffler should hopefully solve the problem. The SRT's with 3" exhausts, no resonators and no cats with a magnaflow are moderately quiet. I just find it hard to believe that an 5X8 or 4X11 oval straight through will take a lot of sound away over the 6" round muffler I have on now.


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#554794 - 10/13/06 12:59 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Alright dude you need to stop looking on SvA for exhaust options.

headers make our cars sound liek crap, good job on getting one

ANYWAYS, if you want quiet you need to ditch that megaphone and get a greddy evolution or borla hush, or a single tip spt exhaust, anything else is loud.....ive been through 5 different exhausts. Also a catted helix or invidia catted downpipe will shut it up a little bit

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#554795 - 10/13/06 01:13 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I voted to keep the header on too. Should have done just the STi uppipe and kept the stock header.
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#554796 - 10/13/06 01:57 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Most people told me a header swap went hand in hand with an uppipe/turbo swap, so might as well do it all at once.

The stock Forester manifold is supposed to be quite restrictive, even compared to the WRX.
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#554797 - 10/13/06 02:05 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Ive always been a fan of the greddy evo.... figured you ddidnt wnat to buy another catback though...
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#554798 - 10/13/06 02:09 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I didn't notice there was an SS Ultraflo but now that you mention it, I do see it.

Anyways he muffler I have is an Ultraflo Welded, oval, center entry center exit 3" all the way through. Looking at their catalog, the only one that matches those specs is the 17220 which is 4.5" x 9.75" x 19" (including the inlet and outlet pipes), the actual "oval part" of the muffler is 14".

The Dynomax Bullet muffler I use as a resonator appears to be p/n 24222, 4" outside diameter, 3" straight through inside diameter, 12" resonated section, 16.5" overall length.

If you guys want to hear a sound comparison between cutout open and cutout closed I can find some place to host my dyno files. In the cutout closed version there is some good sound footage of before I get on it, so you can hear sortof how it sounds.
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#554799 - 10/13/06 03:27 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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So a 5x8 Magnaflow should be somewhat similar with a 3" in/out.

I expect some noise, just want it toned down some. Right now, it actually sounds pretty good, just too loud.
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#554800 - 10/13/06 03:33 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Probably, assuming they use similar type and quantity of sound deadening material which I'm sure they do.
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#554801 - 10/13/06 06:53 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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#554802 - 10/13/06 07:28 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Chambered and especially Supertrapp mufflers have no place on a turbo car. Just run the longest straight through muffler you can find and you will be happy. The big tips seem to make it louder and more raspy sounding.
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#554803 - 10/14/06 05:20 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I may be coming in late, but I have a Vibrant 3" muffler on my turbo Si....it is absolutly great. It is not loud at all and sounds very "sporty", not raspy or too deep. Some say it's too quiet but I like it. Also, looks very stockish to me

Vibrant +1
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#554804 - 10/17/06 06:37 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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or hey, you can do something nearly forbidden by SvA and buy a prebuilt exhaust that has decently large piping and isn't all that loud.

fujitsubo power getter is what you want. jerk off to or against the looks all you want. it's quieter than hks and has bigger piping. the midpipe is 3" with 2 resonators. the axleback graduates that to 3.5" with a cannister style muffler. i just sold mine (trying to fucking ship it too) because i'm going to sell my car. i've had the blitz nur spec touring (fantastic), hks cf/ti (loud, good sound, too loud), and this one, and i can honestly say the fuji was the best.
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#554805 - 10/17/06 07:08 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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what are you selling the essteeeye for?
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#554806 - 10/17/06 07:12 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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what are you selling the essteeeye for?



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#554807 - 10/17/06 07:37 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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did you read the thread? premade systems were recommended...
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#554808 - 10/17/06 07:39 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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ready for SvA to implode? lol...

fit + no debt at all + paid off wedding

i drive way too much over shit roads at speeds unbecoming of such a car to make it worth keeping. also, we're buying a house in the next 5 months.

don't hate me, but i really like the fit. *shrug*

edit: clarity... i'm putting on anywhere from 45 to 190 miles a day on my car. at this point i just want something that i can start up and go...as opposed to my sti which requires a pretty full pre-flight checklist:
-how are the roads there
-do i have more than half a tank of gas? (100mile range...50 miles each way)
-where i'm going, are there a bunch of asshats who will nearly wreck into me to get me to race? (happens a lot lately)

back on topic: there should be a full stainless greddy evo2 out as well. you definitely do not want something that would require a silencer to sound somewhat sane, as they ALL rattle. the blitz nur spec touring has a nice deep tone and the craftsmanship was great. the fujitsubo was a LOT straighter and had as big, then bigger piping for the same loudness and the fit/finish quality was fantastic.

there are a lot of exhausts out for these cars, but most of them suck. to my horror, a lot of the shitty ones have the biggest followings. please stay away from anything borla >_<

if you want louder, get the hks hi power, but only if the tip is integrated/welded to the can. on the cf/ti it is not, and it comes loose/rattles like a bitch after some time.

if you want something on par with hks in loudness but better fit and finish, check out the invidia g200.

c/n: get fujitsubo, buy my sti, fit > jsmonet, will masturbate caged animals for wedding gifts


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#554809 - 10/17/06 08:49 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Why on earth would I spend $600+ for a system that is the exact same as mine with a different muffler.

A good 304SST catback with resonator, 3" mandrel tubing and a muffler is easily $600. The only difference is a muffler.
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#554810 - 10/17/06 09:35 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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....ok...yeah....sure.... not really but sure.

you know what, whatever makes you happy.
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#554811 - 10/17/06 11:02 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Explain to me how they are different in terms of noise reduction and quality? The Vibrant quality is great, it fits great, no melted bumpers, no banging, to leaks, no rubbing. It just needs to be quieter. All the other system mentioned in this thread are quieter due to the muffler.
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#554812 - 10/18/06 12:40 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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tell me how my fujitsubo was so quiet with just one more resonator, bigger axleback piping, and not much more girth to the cannister. hell, it was straighter than your vibrant as well.

sure this isn't rocket science, but everyone has their own little tweaks they apply.


it may not look all that different, but it's a LOT quieter while still maintaining a good amount of flow. that wouldn't happen if you just added a resonator to your current exhaust
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#554813 - 10/18/06 12:48 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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I recommend Borla. As you already know, I completely hate exhaust noise, but love power. I have seen people complain bitterly and ask for a refund after purchasing a Borla because it was "too quiet". But they flow like hell, and are stainless.
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#554814 - 10/18/06 07:42 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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sure this isn't rocket science, but everyone has their own little tweaks they apply.



What he said.
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#554815 - 10/18/06 08:52 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Racing muffler FTW. They are 35 bucks at summit. Probably an extra 20-25 to weld in.
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#554816 - 10/18/06 09:04 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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tell me how my fujitsubo was so quiet with just one more resonator, bigger axleback piping, and not much more girth to the cannister. hell, it was straighter than your vibrant as well.




What downpipe were you running? stock? Catted? Stock manifold?

The Fujitsubo is $900, way more than I'm willing to spend. If I can add a 5" round muffler as a resonator and an oval Magnaflow, I'm looking around $300 installed.
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#554817 - 10/18/06 09:13 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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This one cost me 35 shipped (mine was 3.5"). It gets more expensive every day, but they sell cheaper ones. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku
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#554818 - 10/18/06 09:17 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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That isn't stainless. Finding a cheap resonater isn't a problem. Finding a good muffler is more of a challenge. I just don't want to swap stuff out and find it just as loud.
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#554819 - 10/18/06 09:24 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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If you keep everything as is and drop in a muffler like the Moroso or a second resonator then you will probably have the most result for cash spent. And if that is not enough have them weld on a new muffler.

Seems the most economical way to do it, especially if that canister thing gets you off.
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#554820 - 10/18/06 09:30 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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That is my thought. If I can get a second resonator in, a long one, I'm probably doing good.

I have an appointment at a locla shop tomorrow. We're going to hoist it up and see what we can fit. Ideally, I want to fit a 24" - 3" oval muffler and an 18-20" resonator. My current muffler is 20" (with tip), so it might be tough.
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#554821 - 10/18/06 10:10 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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if you're going to do that, just get a full exhaust bent for you.

i was running a helix catted dp, btw
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#554822 - 10/19/06 04:24 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Just got a call from the muffler shop, they were able to fit in another resonator and with the oval, they said it's way, way quieter.

Used this muffler:

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#554823 - 10/19/06 05:13 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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#554824 - 10/19/06 05:14 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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The Greddy 3' turbo is pretty quiet.
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#554825 - 10/19/06 05:22 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Sweet!

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#554826 - 10/20/06 12:17 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle
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Got it back, very quiet. They managed to fit an 18" bottle resonator under there (3" SS) and with the magnaflow, it's quite quiet.

The Magnaflow looks better under there as well. Smaller rolled tip vs larger slash cut canister.

I'm looking at making a dyno appointment next week for a protune, I might just unbolt the catback and see what kinda power it's costing me, depending on how the numbers show.
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#554827 - 10/21/06 06:51 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler *Edited w/ pics*
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Here's a couple pics (Rained today, so it's dirty):


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#554828 - 10/22/06 05:16 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler *Edited - pics at the end*
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hahahaha

This is for the maxima?

What makes the exhaust loud is the header / y-pipe / b-pipe.

Muffler alone might make a slight change of noise / note.

If you started replacing pipes from the block back, no muffler, not even the stock one really, will save you.

I had the same magnaflow muffler you posted on my maxima. Combined with the y and b pipe, I basically had a straight pipe.





http://www.v6atlanta.com/max_vids/magnaflow/burnout_stop.wmv

http://www.v6atlanta.com/max_vids/magnaflow/start_rev.wmv

http://www.v6atlanta.com/max_vids/magnaflow/takeoff.wmv

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#554829 - 10/22/06 01:43 PM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler *Edited - pics at the end*
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I guess you missed the post above you.

The Maxima is bone stock save for no silencer and a Kool Blue filter. Any future new pseduo-luxo cars I buy will likely remain stock unless it's a turdbo and I can get a chip or reflash (i.e. BMW 335).
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#9173955 - 10/31/17 03:25 AM Re: Need a Quiet 3" Muffler for a Turbo Vehicle [Re: HCivic02]
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