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#5039833 - 09/17/10 09:15 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
...FFFUUU

I went through the same thing. Look through the old posts, I swear.

Here's a really simple way to put it. The 55-250 is more than adequate if you just want to extend your kit lens out to 250mm. The images will come out fine. If you love your kit lens, you'll love the 55-250.

The f/4L feels like an aluminum bat compared to the nifty two-fifty. Constant f/4 aperture doesn't seem like much, but at 200mm, that's fast for $500-$600. It's all contained so nothing sticks out, etc. Very good optics in a sturdy tube.

Don't worry about the IS. That 70-300 has to have the IS to be usable. It's just not smart to blow that much cash on that lens when the f/4L is right there.

If anything we're trying to save you from buying a lens, and regretting it.

Keep in mind that we're upgrading gear all the time. If I had bought Joe's lens on Tuesday, my f/4L might be on it's way to you for $500 as I write this.

-edit- http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=107

That's a lens archive I use to decide whether or not lenses are for me.

You can search for groups and photos on Flickr the same way by using the model numbers:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/canon-l/

http://www.flickr.com/groups/canon55-250is/




Edited by Stuntman Mike (09/17/10 09:28 AM)

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#5039873 - 09/17/10 09:26 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: flyEX #1]
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I keep going back and looking for deals on the F/4L to tell you the truth. Those bird pics you take have stuck my brain, lol..

It's funny, I don't have problems dropping $$$ on fishing equipment, I'm just having a hard time justifying it for camera shit
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#5039892 - 09/17/10 09:35 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
I keep going back and looking for deals on the F/4L to tell you the truth. Those bird pics you take have stuck my brain, lol..

It's funny, I don't have problems dropping $$$ on fishing equipment, I'm just having a hard time justifying it for camera shit


I'm that way too. I have no problem owning over 50 paintball markers and dropping $500-1000 a month buying new ones yet there's something about dropping coin on photography for me right now. I think you and I are both in the same boat - DSLR is new to us and dropping massive coin on lens is a giant step.

I agree totally with what Mike said - the 70-300 needs IS and at that price point just buy the F4. If you just want a telephoto lens to start down that track - grab the 55-250IS for $229.
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#5039917 - 09/17/10 09:48 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: Huggy]
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I appreciate the help guys, I think I've got my mind made up..
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#5040026 - 09/17/10 10:18 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: LNXGUY]
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Getting back to the original post - anyone with either the F4 or F2.8 or have used both - what would you recommend and why?

Basically if you have the F4 ~ do you wish or have plans to upgrade to the F2.8?
If you have the F2.8 ~ was it an upgrade or do you regret the purchase?
If you've used both ~ what do you think? LOL!
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#5040121 - 09/17/10 10:46 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: Huggy]
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I've got the 2.8. I love it, haven't really gotten to use it too extensively yet. Tomorrow morning I have a photoshoot of 200-300 kids playing football, so that should get me some pretty good exercise. I posted my hockey pics taken with the 70-200 2.8 mounted to a Rebel XT. Settings were wrong, but I love the fast autofocusing. I took some pics at a neighborhood pick-up soccer game and the images turned out really sharp in decent light. i'm sure with a different/upgraded body the thing would be smooth as butter and give you better ISO. I played with a 70-200 2.8 mounted to a 7D at the camera store and it was fan-fucking-tastic. I'd love to get a 7D if my budget would afford one, but alas, I dropped the dough on the lens instead. My regret *maybe* is getting the 2.8 solely instead of the 4 and a 50D. I'm seriously considering a downgrade to get the camera too.....

Edited by crimson773 (09/17/10 10:49 AM)

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#5041657 - 09/17/10 08:27 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: Voltron]
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the 2.8 weighs as much as a small child, and you can bludgeon the child to death with one.

the 4is pimp, and you don't have to hit the gym and do curls to beefcake out to hold it for long periods of time.

i'm going to try the 2.8is on my brother in law's 7d. i get the feeling i'm going to steal his camera after that, though...

I hear the 4is gets a lot of love from the wedding crowd because a) a fuckton of them are women with small arms and b) sick results from less than half the weight of the 2.8.

need night vision? 2.8.

don't? 4.

making money off of it? go fucking wild \:D
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#5041778 - 09/17/10 09:39 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: jsmonet]
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oh, and jesus christ testerbation is such an easy trap to fall into. what's almost as bad is dofsterbation: not just falling, but hurling yourself down the dof hole and doing stupid shit just to hop up and down saying SEE? SEEEE??? THIS PART'S -IN- FOCUS AND THIS PART ONLY SLIGHTLY CLOSER TO ME IS ------OUT OF FOCUS----- OH MY GAWD.

*slaps self*

fuck.
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#5042113 - 09/18/10 01:11 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY

Do I need a L series lens?


No.

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I fucking highly doubt it.. can I get similar shots with something cheaper? I'm thinking yes.. If the 55-250 Canon lens will do an adequate job and is better then the 70-300 (Either the Canon or Tamron) then simply tell me that and I'll go buy one this afternoon.


Yes. I don't know what it is about the internet that promotes such hard gearwhoring, but it's just... if you're not a professional and there aren't technical or performance-related requirements for your work, what sense does L glass make if you're not absolutely rolling in cash? What do most people on here do with their images aside from post 800x600 shots in random threads? Not much, I'm assuming.

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#5042201 - 09/18/10 03:17 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: jsmonet]
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 Originally Posted By: jsmonet
oh, and jesus christ testerbation is such an easy trap to fall into. what's almost as bad is dofsterbation: not just falling, but hurling yourself down the dof hole and doing stupid shit just to hop up and down saying SEE? SEEEE??? THIS PART'S -IN- FOCUS AND THIS PART ONLY SLIGHTLY CLOSER TO ME IS ------OUT OF FOCUS----- OH MY GAWD.

*slaps self*

fuck.

Thought you were referencing me for sure at first.

It's only natural for us coming from digital cameras with no DOF capability to go crazy. Now that I know the range of focus that I have at different focal lengths / apertures, it's useful for highlighting things / faces.

Keeping with the thread title. Here's an example of why not to fall down that hole. Maximum aperture with the sun directly overhead. Picture was taken using JPG compression, so I wasn't able to do much with it. Gives me an excuse to use our zoo passes again, though.




The only way I learn is through taking bad pictures. So, I'm learning... \:D

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#5043028 - 09/18/10 09:55 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: flyEX #1]
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Here are some of the ones that I took today out of about 1500 that I kept. I haven't processed any yet, hoping that I won't really have to.





These two guys were still going at it after the play had turned about 30 yards downfield. They kept pushing each other until the whistle.





Edited by crimson773 (09/18/10 09:56 PM)

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#5043034 - 09/18/10 09:58 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: Voltron]
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#5043038 - 09/18/10 10:04 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: ]
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Yeah, I can't tell you how many times the damn zebras got in the way when I was getting a running back/qb heading toward the sideline for an awesome shot. On an unrelated note, I got massive sunburn too! Youch!

Actually, this shot ended up as a touchdown. I was lucky to capture the qb dropping back and throwing, and the reciever was right in front of me in the end zone and caught the ball. Unfortunately it's underexposed and I'll have to push it a bit, but I'm being lazy now, I'll work it tomorrow.


Edited by crimson773 (09/18/10 10:05 PM)

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#5044170 - 09/19/10 05:55 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: Voltron]
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#5048423 - 09/21/10 03:27 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: LNXGUY]
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Got to use a 70-200 F2.8 today!!! Haven't even looked at the few pics I took with it but WOW it's a huge!!! Also got to use a 100-400L for a few pics. I want an L glass telephoto zoom so bad now.
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#5048535 - 09/21/10 04:13 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: Huggy]
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i need to do some pushups.

i also need bitches to stop lowballing me for the 4is
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#5049030 - 09/21/10 08:22 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: jsmonet]
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Other then a small curves adjustment to darken the sky a bit and try and make the clouds 'pop' a bit more, I didn't touch a thing (Not like I know how to anyhow, lol)

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#5051666 - 09/22/10 08:30 PM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: LNXGUY]
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Here's one of the photos I took with the 70-200 F2.8 at the zoo.

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#5052289 - 09/23/10 01:57 AM Re: show me your 70-200 shots [Re: Huggy]
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It would be nice if it were in focus.

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