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#5022628 - 09/09/10 01:39 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: SiGuyUWP]
SamuraiSam SamuraiSam OG Boost Crew Post Master Sr Registered: 07/29/02 Posts: 8364 Loc: Bellingham, WA	I have a book with a very nice write-up of a v6 swapped, twincharged sw20. Really cool concept and excecution. If you want to spend a shitload of money, do that. I like the S-chassis cars alot and you can do a CA18 for cheap or an RB25 for serious torque. Lots of easy upgrades and easy swaps between Z32s and R32s. I'm also a big E30 fan. Not a bad way to go if you want a fast turbo project with a more solid chassis than the S13. _________________________ 1991 Mazda Miata.
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#5022752 - 09/09/10 02:25 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
psychomantis psychomantis Post Master Supreme Registered: 01/21/04 Posts: 17095 Loc: The AZ side	Lots of good suggestions in here. I'd go the MR2/F-Body/SN95 5.0 route. An E36 328 lightly gutted and w/ steeper gears would make a fun little track slut. There's been a few 99-00 Mustang GT's popping up on CL around here for under $5k as well. _________________________
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#5022761 - 09/09/10 02:29 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: psychomantis]
Serendipitous Serendipitous Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/30/01 Posts: 13965 Loc: Bay Area, CA	What's your budget for mods? _________________________ '07 RX-8 Team Slow
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#5022832 - 09/09/10 02:52 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Serendipitous]
WhiteDSM520 WhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 10538 Loc: Tucson, AZ	Originally Posted By: Serendipitous What's your budget for mods? It's going to be an ongoing project just for something to do so I don't really have a designated allotment of money I'm going to immediately dump into it for mods. I don't even know what car I'm getting so when it comes to modding I have no idea what direction I want to go in. Full build big turbo, etc or just basic mods to make the car slightly more enjoyable. I guess it'll all depend on what I buy. I'm still swaying heavily back and fourth between the sc and the mr2. Nothing suggested so far really appeals to me all that much. Maybe the fc3s, but rotaries freak me out a bit and for what I'd pay for one I still think I like the other two much better. _________________________ 91 MR2 shitbox 09 TT 2.0t Quattro
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#5022841 - 09/09/10 02:55 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
WhiteDSM520 WhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 10538 Loc: Tucson, AZ	Then there's this http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/1944055464.html Probably not fun, not RWD, but it intrigues me. _________________________ 91 MR2 shitbox 09 TT 2.0t Quattro
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#5022949 - 09/09/10 03:22 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
SamuraiSam SamuraiSam OG Boost Crew Post Master Sr Registered: 07/29/02 Posts: 8364 Loc: Bellingham, WA	It would be impossible for me to narrow down choices without a target purpose for the car. I'd take the E30 over the E36 due to build quality and weight, and IIRC neither of them have great rear suspension anyways? _________________________ 1991 Mazda Miata.
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#5022994 - 09/09/10 03:28 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
doshoru doshoru Post Master Registered: 01/27/03 Posts: 2129 Loc: Hotlanta	I'd jump all over that, lol. _________________________ '07 350z HR -- aka fatty <--- Name changed from "Baudchaser".
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#5023068 - 09/09/10 03:44 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: doshoru]
Euphoric Euphoric Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/05/03 Posts: 67852 Loc: Dundas	2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it all 3 series suffer from various issues with the rear suspension. though if cared for it shouldnt be an issue. _________________________ I am going to sleep before i actually end up on the 407 with a beer hat, two brava cans, and 6k rpm in 5th with my dick out the window. - Risky Business Old,out of warranty German box.
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#5023096 - 09/09/10 03:56 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Euphoric]
CommonGutterTrash CommonGutterTrash This user is more useless than a half-baked compost pile. Post Master Sr Registered: 09/16/02 Posts: 6437 Loc: Boston MA	Originally Posted By: Euphoric 2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it all 3 series suffer from various issues with the rear suspension. though if cared for it shouldnt be an issue. I just learned not-too-long-ago about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis... wicked cool. I always thought they were pretty sturdy. of course, the E30 rot is pretty well known. I say volvo... DAMN IT! hell, you could probably find an old xj6 and do a kickass swap to it, too. ohhh... get an xr4ti! or mercury capri turbo (miata, not mustang) _________________________ Craig R. 2000 9-5 Gary Fisher Wagon 1995 850 T-5R 1996 Galant AIM = gclipse96
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#5023109 - 09/09/10 04:00 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Euphoric]
WhiteDSM520 WhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 10538 Loc: Tucson, AZ	Originally Posted By: SamuraiSam It would be impossible for me to narrow down choices without a target purpose for the car. Sorry, I know. I'm being real wishy washy with what I want. But the bare bones of it are -rwd -Enjoyable to drive (comfort/fun) -modding potential. Doesn't necessarily mean I'll mod immediately but I like the option -aesthetically pleasing. This is subjective, and really all that matters is how I feel about the car. My gf thinks mr2s are ugly but she can fuck off. I love them. Originally Posted By: Euphoric 2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it I just checked it out. Dude has it at his harley shop a block from my work. I guess it was payment because some dude owed him money. He's firm in the $2k. Has milky coolant, overheats just idling and cyl 3 misfire code. Guy doesnt know any of the history on it. Missing passenger wheel cover ($115 shipped on eBay) Clean title, straight as an arrow body. What are the chances I could pull the head, mill that, put a new gasket kit in and it'd be good? Last thing i want to have to do is pull a block to have it decked. _________________________ 91 MR2 shitbox 09 TT 2.0t Quattro
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#5023133 - 09/09/10 04:10 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
Serendipitous Serendipitous Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/30/01 Posts: 13965 Loc: Bay Area, CA	Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 I'm still swaying heavily back and fourth between the sc and the mr2. Nothing suggested so far really appeals to me all that much. Maybe the fc3s, but rotaries freak me out a bit and for what I'd pay for one I still think I like the other two much better. They shouldn't freak you out, just look at it as an opportunity to learn something new. It sounds like you are leaning heavily towards the MR2, so I think you should go that way. I had no idea you could find a turbo model in your price range. _________________________ '07 RX-8 Team Slow
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#5023138 - 09/09/10 04:11 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Serendipitous]
Serendipitous Serendipitous Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/30/01 Posts: 13965 Loc: Bay Area, CA	Oh and the Insight sounds like a disaster _________________________ '07 RX-8 Team Slow
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#5023168 - 09/09/10 04:19 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Serendipitous]
WhiteDSM520 WhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 10538 Loc: Tucson, AZ	Originally Posted By: Serendipitous Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 I'm still swaying heavily back and fourth between the sc and the mr2. Nothing suggested so far really appeals to me all that much. Maybe the fc3s, but rotaries freak me out a bit and for what I'd pay for one I still think I like the other two much better. They shouldn't freak you out, just look at it as an opportunity to learn something new. It sounds like you are leaning heavily towards the MR2, so I think you should go that way. I had no idea you could find a turbo model in your price range. Pretty clean and stock. Nearly pulled the trigger on it but it's one of the first cars I came across a few weeks ago and told myself to calm down and make sure I know what I want because I had just started looking. And now it looks like it might be sold. http://www.mr2.com/forums/mk-2-cars/Toyota-MR2-56208-fs-my-white-mr2.html Also, TODAY, I'm really really leaning towards a white sc300. If I could find one locally I might go pick it up. I just wish I could fucking decide and stick with it, because tomorrow if there was a local mr2 I might just pick it up. I was hoping the thread would guide me in one particular way but I'm still just as uncertain as I was when I posted it. _________________________ 91 MR2 shitbox 09 TT 2.0t Quattro
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#5023197 - 09/09/10 04:25 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
Serendipitous Serendipitous Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/30/01 Posts: 13965 Loc: Bay Area, CA	PM the guy and see if it's still available, tell him you have cash in hand. Who knows if the other guy followed through with it. _________________________ '07 RX-8 Team Slow
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#5023232 - 09/09/10 04:36 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Serendipitous]
ReplicaR ReplicaR Just call me DEMRITRICK! Post Master Sr Registered: 05/26/06 Posts: 4559 Loc: E.E.B.	Mustang fills the criteria very well, from what it seems. SN95 is fairly good looking, pretty reliable, modification potential is enormous, and they kick ass at the track, if they are setup properly. If you go for the 5.0, they are also easy to work on, easy to tune, and cheap to get power out of, although you don't exactly start with a whole lot to begin with. _________________________ '94 Mustang GT Acceleration.... $\:\($ ----+----- $\:\)$ Handling......... $\:\($ --------+- $\:\)$ Speed............ $\:\($ ---+------ $\:\)$
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#5023237 - 09/09/10 04:38 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: CommonGutterTrash]
Euphoric Euphoric Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/05/03 Posts: 67852 Loc: Dundas	Originally Posted By: g96nt [quote=Euphoric]about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis... really? thats an issue for non m's mostly. though the M has its fair share of things to look out for. _________________________ I am going to sleep before i actually end up on the 407 with a beer hat, two brava cans, and 6k rpm in 5th with my dick out the window. - Risky Business Old,out of warranty German box.
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#5023242 - 09/09/10 04:39 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
Euphoric Euphoric Post Master Supreme Registered: 11/05/03 Posts: 67852 Loc: Dundas	Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 I just checked it out. Dude has it at his harley shop a block from my work. I guess it was payment because some dude owed him money. He's firm in the $2k. Has milky coolant, overheats just idling and cyl 3 misfire code. Guy doesnt know any of the history on it. Missing passenger wheel cover ($115 shipped on eBay) Clean title, straight as an arrow body. What are the chances I could pull the head, mill that, put a new gasket kit in and it'd be good? Last thing i want to have to do is pull a block to have it decked. if you dont want to do that..then id pass. _________________________ I am going to sleep before i actually end up on the 407 with a beer hat, two brava cans, and 6k rpm in 5th with my dick out the window. - Risky Business Old,out of warranty German box.
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#5023243 - 09/09/10 04:39 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: SiGuyUWP]
danl danl Post Master Sr Registered: 07/14/00 Posts: 7755 Loc: PA	6 cyl SN95 mustang. Either swap in a modular V8 motor and turbocharge it or keep the V6 and turbocharge that. You can easilly make it handle well with parts. You can make it look better with a few touches. Parts are cheap and they are easy to work on.
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#5023246 - 09/09/10 04:41 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: danl]
danl danl Post Master Sr Registered: 07/14/00 Posts: 7755 Loc: PA	Also, if you haven't noticed, with limited funds its hard to do better than an american V8 for nearly everything performance oriented (either turning or straight line). They are cheap to make fast and cheap to keep running. Without owning a shop or a sponsorship of some kind its hard to as fast with anything else.
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#5023325 - 09/09/10 05:22 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: SiGuyUWP]
Nurburgring Nurburgring Major Member Registered: 08/25/02 Posts: 1380 Loc: Santiago, Chile	Light cars are teh win. If you don´t want a Miata, MkI MR2 would be my choice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Babied-su...=item45f52a66fe Although if you want to go fast, look elsewhere. _________________________ 911 3.2 Targa / S2000 / AE86 x 2 / Aprilia RSV1000R
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#5023350 - 09/09/10 05:33 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: danl]
FCobra94 FCobra94 Post Master Supreme Registered: 10/22/01 Posts: 17158 Loc: MD	Originally Posted By: danl 6 cyl SN95 mustang...keep the V6 and turbocharge that. That's actually a pretty neat idea $\:D$ I saw some on youtube a while back and they all pretty much seemed to make ~350whp fairly easily. Here's what a quick google search brought up, but I'm sure you'd have much more fun/would save a good bit of money fabing something up yourself: http://www.tmaturbo.com/ _________________________ '07 335i '94 Cobra
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#5023441 - 09/09/10 06:08 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: FCobra94]
ReplicaR ReplicaR Just call me DEMRITRICK! Post Master Sr Registered: 05/26/06 Posts: 4559 Loc: E.E.B.	Originally Posted By: FCobra94 http://www.tmaturbo.com/ I don't know if I'd be comfortable buying stuff from someone who can't spell. _________________________ '94 Mustang GT Acceleration.... $\:\($ ----+----- $\:\)$ Handling......... $\:\($ --------+- $\:\)$ Speed............ $\:\($ ---+------ $\:\)$
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#5023540 - 09/09/10 06:46 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: ReplicaR]
danl danl Post Master Sr Registered: 07/14/00 Posts: 7755 Loc: PA	I've always wanted to do a 6 cylinder turbo pony car. 6 cyl insurance with turbo power and the ability to go to the well supported drivetrain of the v8 cars when stuff starts to exit the car. V6 motors are a dime a dozen so if you need a learning experience, just throw boost at stock motors. When you are comfortable making power on a turbo car, put some pistons/rods and possibly a crank in it and have a field day.
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#5023925 - 09/09/10 09:19 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: danl]
WhiteDSM520 WhiteDSM520 Post Master Supreme Registered: 12/02/01 Posts: 10538 Loc: Tucson, AZ	One of my best friends had an 5.0 sn95 Saleen replica with 2.73s. Fuck it was awful to drive with those gears. Once the 4.11s went in it was actually pretty fun. Crazy notchy tranny though. Worse than Z33s. If I found a car like his I'd think about picking it up, so many good memories. But I'm still an import whore, it'd be tough for me to give in. _________________________ 91 MR2 shitbox 09 TT 2.0t Quattro
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#5023957 - 09/09/10 09:30 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
ReplicaR ReplicaR Just call me DEMRITRICK! Post Master Sr Registered: 05/26/06 Posts: 4559 Loc: E.E.B.	With import, you often get import tax on the parts. I try to keep my car fairly clean, and in good running condition, and even when parts go bad, usually you can go and pick them up for almost nothing at the autozone. If you are meticulous like me, you can also purchase MotorCraft parts for not a lot more. Junk yards are stocked with those cars, so parts are available from there as well. Suspension wise, you can go crazy and spend almost 10 grand on stuff that will make it handle like a gokart, but you can also get about 80% of that with just good springs, shocks, and sway bar kit, and wider set of wheels of course. _________________________ '94 Mustang GT Acceleration.... $\:\($ ----+----- $\:\)$ Handling......... $\:\($ --------+- $\:\)$ Speed............ $\:\($ ---+------ $\:\)$
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#5024077 - 09/09/10 10:14 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Euphoric]
CommonGutterTrash CommonGutterTrash This user is more useless than a half-baked compost pile. Post Master Sr Registered: 09/16/02 Posts: 6437 Loc: Boston MA	Originally Posted By: Euphoric Originally Posted By: g96nt [quote=Euphoric]about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis... really? thats an issue for non m's mostly. though the M has its fair share of things to look out for. yeah, he was showing me where the floor of his trunk was creasing, and cracking. I had no idea that generation had any issues back there. _________________________ Craig R. 2000 9-5 Gary Fisher Wagon 1995 850 T-5R 1996 Galant AIM = gclipse96
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#5024476 - 09/10/10 03:23 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: ReplicaR]
scootergeek scootergeek Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/24/00 Posts: 36162 Loc: St. Louis	Starion/Conquest - junkyard SRT-4 motor mated to a 5 speed out of a Dakota (because the 4G63 is too common). , scott _________________________ When you’re betting for tiles in an archery contest, you shoot with skill. While you’re betting for fancy belt buckles, you worry about your aim. And when you’re betting for real gold, you’re a nervous wreck. Your skill is the same in all three cases – but because one prize means more to you than another, you let outside considerations weigh on your mind. He who looks too hard at the outside gets clumsy on the inside.
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#5024528 - 09/10/10 06:53 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: CommonGutterTrash]
spotch spotch Post Master Supreme Registered: 07/25/00 Posts: 45863	Originally Posted By: g96nt Originally Posted By: Euphoric 2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it all 3 series suffer from various issues with the rear suspension. though if cared for it shouldnt be an issue. I just learned not-too-long-ago about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis... wicked cool. I always thought they were pretty sturdy. of course, the E30 rot is pretty well known. I say volvo... DAMN IT! hell, you could probably find an old xj6 and do a kickass swap to it, too. ohhh... get an xr4ti! or mercury capri turbo (miata, not mustang) e46s and z3s have the subframe tearing problem too. google e46 subframe tear, you'll see.
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#5024607 - 09/10/10 08:09 AM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: ReplicaR]
FCobra94 FCobra94 Post Master Supreme Registered: 10/22/01 Posts: 17158 Loc: MD	Originally Posted By: ReplicaR Originally Posted By: FCobra94 http://www.tmaturbo.com/ I don't know if I'd be comfortable buying stuff from someone who can't spell. Haha! Yeah, I agree...after a limited forum search on google though, that guy is supposed to be teh best guy to get a turbo kit from lol As you may expect, spelling, punctuation, and grammar weren't exactly strong within those forums either. _________________________ '07 335i '94 Cobra
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#5025407 - 09/10/10 01:24 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
SamuraiSam SamuraiSam OG Boost Crew Post Master Sr Registered: 07/29/02 Posts: 8364 Loc: Bellingham, WA	As far as the engine Sometimes you can get away with using sandpaper wrapped around a perfectly flat bar of steel so you don't have to pull the engine. Depends on the condition of the engine. _________________________ 1991 Mazda Miata.
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#5026098 - 09/10/10 05:46 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: SamuraiSam]
danl danl Post Master Sr Registered: 07/14/00 Posts: 7755 Loc: PA	Don't BUY a turbo kit. This is a fucking project car. Make your own! 70mm master power turbo @ 10psi. 42lb/min injectors (cobra injectors???). Good universal FMIC (garret bar/plate), ecu programmer, 93 octane, slicks, run 10's, profit.
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#5026124 - 09/10/10 06:02 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: WhiteDSM520]
cacasesi cacasesi Post Master Sr Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 3661 Loc: Bay Area, CA	Originally Posted By: WhiteDSM520 Also, TODAY, I'm really really leaning towards a white sc300. If I could find one locally I might go pick it up. I just wish I could fucking decide and stick with it, because tomorrow if there was a local mr2 I might just pick it up. I was hoping the thread would guide me in one particular way but I'm still just as uncertain as I was when I posted it. If you're anxious to just buy something, don't get an MR2. It takes a lot of time to find a good one. The one you posted is a pile. 170k miles? Plan on a new turbo, clutch, timing belt, cap, rotor, coil, wires, coolant flush (huge PITA), AFM, fuel pump, etc. You should really considering learning what sort of MR2 you would like to build, and then buy someone's well-done project car. http://www.mr2oc.com is a huge resource. Check the FS forum there. A ct20b (JDM turbo) or ct27 (ATS Racing modded stock turbo) car can run a high 12. A TD06 or GT28rs is getting very fast. A t3/t4 KO Racing Street Brawler (SB46 or 50 trim) is an awesome kit. Anything bigger is redonkulous and incredibly fast. Look for a car with quality headwork (cams, oversized valves, port) done by a reputable shop. This will save you an assload. _________________________ 2009 GTI 4 Door
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#5026125 - 09/10/10 06:03 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: cacasesi]
Serendipitous Serendipitous Post Master Supreme Registered: 04/30/01 Posts: 13965 Loc: Bay Area, CA	2800 bucks though dude. He's looking for a project, after all. _________________________ '07 RX-8 Team Slow
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#5026172 - 09/10/10 06:33 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: Serendipitous]
cacasesi cacasesi Post Master Sr Registered: 06/01/00 Posts: 3661 Loc: Bay Area, CA	Yeah, but that thing is overpriced and a pile of junk. I can smell it. The interior looks like hell. And there's nothing worse than a fucked up interior and having to spend a bunch just to make it not look like shit when you have other things that need fixing. Finding a good MR2 is like an art form, or a hunt. If you rush, you will lose. I bought an absolutely immaculate exterior 1994 Turbo with a bad transmission for $3500 from a dealer. I washed it. I sold it for $8400... _________________________ 2009 GTI 4 Door
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#5026335 - 09/10/10 08:16 PM Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k [Re: cacasesi]
danl danl Post Master Sr Registered: 07/14/00 Posts: 7755 Loc: PA	Sounds like MR2's are like turbo dsm's. They are a box o' chocolate and you never know what you are going to get. Except that you have a good idea of what you are going to get, an STD, mutherfucking STD's. Everybody told you not to sleep with her and now it burns when I pee. I mean DSM's are like STD's. Anyways don't get a MR2.
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