#5020623 - 09/08/10 08:02 PM
What to buy? RWD, $2-4k *Updated*
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WhiteDSM520
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Update:
Just got back from Phoenix. No SC300 so now I gotta figure out what to do with my 19" Professors. But really, it's nothing I'd expect you guys to get excited about.
91 N/A has rod knock needs paint, but nearly perfect interior, straight body, and a clear title. When I saw the interior I was sold. Paid $1200. Probably buying a 3sgte swap once the professors are sold. It's gonna take a while to get it where I want it but that's what I wanted, a project. I'm pretty stoked 
I haven't had a project car in 5 years. I just sold my 350z and my sole driver is a new Tundra, which I'm going crazy driving on a daily basis after only a month.
I want RWD and I think that's about it. Right now I'm torn between SC300 and MKII MR2. Miatas are out, sorry, I just don't like them and I know they'd get suggested.
MR2
-4cyl, so it's cheaper/easier to work on since I'm mostly familiar with 4cyl engines
-Difficult to find unadulterated
-Turbo ones can be found for $4k if I'm patient.
SC300
-Everywhere, in all colors
-Difficult to find in a manual, and it seems people selling the manual ones know that.
-Usually dead stock owned by a blue hair who just died
-I don't even know what a 2jz swap would cost but I'm sure it's expensive.
-I do have some SSR Professors laying around to throw on it and with some coilovers I'd immediately be happy with the looks.
Any other suggestions? Recommend one over the other? And FWIW I've never driven either and know very little about modding them, but I assume the MR2 would be super easy and cheap based on what I know from the DSM scene.
Edited by WhiteDSM520 (09/30/10 12:53 AM)
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#5020643 - 09/08/10 08:12 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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spotch
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I keep trying, but I can't type anything but "Miata". There's just nothing better in the 2-4k range.
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#5020644 - 09/08/10 08:12 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5020692 - 09/08/10 08:41 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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madmatt
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I vote SC300
single turbo right off the bat
keep it auto for the daily driver 
and seriously, auto supra's are just as fast  just put a real auto in it and you'll be fine
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#5020703 - 09/08/10 08:43 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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I vote SC300 single turbo right off the bat keep it auto for the daily driver and seriously, auto supra's are just as fast just put a real auto in it and you'll be fine
If you look for a Toyota soarer (still an SC300) you will find more in manual.
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#5020756 - 09/08/10 08:59 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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WhiteDSM520
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You think the MR2 is cheap?
A 20 year old mass produced japanese 4cyl? Yeah.
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#5020772 - 09/08/10 09:04 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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spotch
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Oh I know! Miata. 
fuck. 
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#5020801 - 09/08/10 09:13 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5020824 - 09/08/10 09:19 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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spotch
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In all seriousness, if you refuse the Miata, I would get an Mr2. I'd probably get a later one (didn't the 93-95s have the safest suspension setup?). Edmunds says the base only weighed 2657 pounds... holy shit.
The 240sx would also be very tempting.
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#5020827 - 09/08/10 09:20 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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I am Jack's VR6
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Miatas are out, sorry, I just don't like them and I know they'd get suggested.
I see this, but all I can think of is this...
Miatas are out, because I'm not man enough to drive one sorry, I just don't like them because other dudes won't approve and I know they'd get suggested because they are the best option in my price range. I'd rather blow head gaskets and lots of dudes behind closed doors instead.
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#5020922 - 09/08/10 09:54 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5020927 - 09/08/10 09:56 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Who owned that MR2 that burned down in their driveway a few years back. Cacasesi?
Yeah, that can happen. I blame a worn out engine wiring harness. A loose fuel line is conceivable, but the car was dead cold and I don't see how even a fuel leak would have ignited like it did... sigh.
MR2 Turbo gets my vote for project car, though it would be nearly impossible to find a clean one at $4k. Pay $6k and get a much more well loved car. Pay $8k and get a garage queen gem. Unless the economy has crushed prices since I was in the market, this is about right.
As for them being "super easy and cheap"... I dunno. They aren't bad, but they were very far from mass produced, in fact, rare. I want to say 1100-ish Turbo models were delivered to North America for 1993, 300-ish in 1994, and under 100 in 1995. OEM parts are pretty damn expensive.
The car isn't easy to work on, but it's not as bad as some may think. The timing belt side of the engine is a bitch. Might as well drop the motor if a t-belt needs replacing (which they do). Luckily, dropping the motor isn't too hard... if you can get the car four feet in the air. I dropped the tranny in my 1 car garage when I had to replace the clutch.
What are the goals for this project car?
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#5020934 - 09/08/10 09:58 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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You think the MR2 is cheap? A 20 year old mass produced japanese 4cyl? Yeah.
Comparatively, was what I was getting at.
Compared to the plethora of drivetrain choices to swap into a Fiero, and inital cost of buying the car and donor for the drivetrain swap, you're looking at pennies to the dollar, when put side to side with the MR2.
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#5021027 - 09/08/10 10:22 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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WhiteDSM520
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In all seriousness, if you refuse the Miata, I would get an Mr2. I'd probably get a later one (didn't the 93-95s have the safest suspension setup?). Edmunds says the base only weighed 2657 pounds... holy shit.
The 240sx would also be very tempting.
I think I read that there was a snap oversteer issue in the 91-92s. I've only been reading about them for a few weeks but I don't remember for sure. But the early ones are the cheapest ones so I'd likely buy a 91-92.
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#5021048 - 09/08/10 10:25 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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WhiteDSM520
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Miatas are out, sorry, I just don't like them and I know they'd get suggested. I see this, but all I can think of is this... Miatas are out, because I'm not man enough to drive one sorry, I just don't like them because other dudes won't approve and I know they'd get suggested because they are the best option in my price range. I'd rather blow head gaskets and lots of dudes behind closed doors instead.
I knew someone would say this, but I simply don't like them. I remember calling them tic-tacs when I was a kid because I thought they were ugly and looked like tic-tacs. As far as a car with the gay "stigma" I'd drive a FWD mini before I drove a miata. One could argu minis are way less "manly". Plus I don't want a vert.
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#5021103 - 09/08/10 10:43 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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spotch
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In all seriousness, if you refuse the Miata, I would get an Mr2. I'd probably get a later one (didn't the 93-95s have the safest suspension setup?). Edmunds says the base only weighed 2657 pounds... holy shit.
The 240sx would also be very tempting.
I think I read that there was a snap oversteer issue in the 91-92s. I've only been reading about them for a few weeks but I don't remember for sure. But the early ones are the cheapest ones so I'd likely buy a 91-92.
The last time I talked about these things (7~? years ago), I was told the 91-92 had the snappiest rears. I'm sure there are fixes for this though.
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#5021125 - 09/08/10 10:49 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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http://www.reelmovienews.com/gallery/macgruber-drives-a-miata/
Edit: straight answer....
Ive always wanted a MR2 Turbo. That would be my choice. Sounds awesome. If you're patient Im sure you can find one,lots of people selling their toys right now,often at fire sale pricing.
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#5021157 - 09/08/10 11:00 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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IIRC the 3.0 camry engine from the same era swapped right in, and was more lightweight than the turbo engine (not nearly as much mod potential, but still, decent power for 2850~ pounds and a weight redux off the rear wheels lol pendulum).
I mean, you said you wanted a project right?
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#5021186 - 09/08/10 11:15 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Miatas are out, sorry, I just don't like them and I know they'd get suggested.
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#5021425 - 09/09/10 02:29 AM
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#5021485 - 09/09/10 07:11 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5021511 - 09/09/10 07:44 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5021521 - 09/09/10 07:50 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5022054 - 09/09/10 10:50 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5022364 - 09/09/10 12:21 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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LT1 Caprice/Impala SS?
5.0 SN95 Mustang would probably be best from a modding standpoint.
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#5022761 - 09/09/10 02:29 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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What's your budget for mods?
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#5022832 - 09/09/10 02:52 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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What's your budget for mods?
It's going to be an ongoing project just for something to do so I don't really have a designated allotment of money I'm going to immediately dump into it for mods. I don't even know what car I'm getting so when it comes to modding I have no idea what direction I want to go in. Full build big turbo, etc or just basic mods to make the car slightly more enjoyable. I guess it'll all depend on what I buy.
I'm still swaying heavily back and fourth between the sc and the mr2. Nothing suggested so far really appeals to me all that much. Maybe the fc3s, but rotaries freak me out a bit and for what I'd pay for one I still think I like the other two much better.
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#5023068 - 09/09/10 03:44 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Euphoric
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2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it
all 3 series suffer from various issues with the rear suspension. though if cared for it shouldnt be an issue.
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#5023096 - 09/09/10 03:56 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it
all 3 series suffer from various issues with the rear suspension. though if cared for it shouldnt be an issue.
I just learned not-too-long-ago about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis... wicked cool. I always thought they were pretty sturdy.
of course, the E30 rot is pretty well known.
I say volvo... DAMN IT!
hell, you could probably find an old xj6 and do a kickass swap to it, too.
ohhh... get an xr4ti! or mercury capri turbo (miata, not mustang)
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#5023109 - 09/09/10 04:00 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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It would be impossible for me to narrow down choices without a target purpose for the car.
Sorry, I know. I'm being real wishy washy with what I want. But the bare bones of it are
-rwd
-Enjoyable to drive (comfort/fun)
-modding potential. Doesn't necessarily mean I'll mod immediately but I like the option
-aesthetically pleasing. This is subjective, and really all that matters is how I feel about the car. My gf thinks mr2s are ugly but she can fuck off. I love them.
2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it
I just checked it out. Dude has it at his harley shop a block from my work. I guess it was payment because some dude owed him money. He's firm in the $2k. Has milky coolant, overheats just idling and cyl 3 misfire code. Guy doesnt know any of the history on it. Missing passenger wheel cover ($115 shipped on eBay) Clean title, straight as an arrow body. What are the chances I could pull the head, mill that, put a new gasket kit in and it'd be good? Last thing i want to have to do is pull a block to have it decked.
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#5023138 - 09/09/10 04:11 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5023168 - 09/09/10 04:19 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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I'm still swaying heavily back and fourth between the sc and the mr2. Nothing suggested so far really appeals to me all that much. Maybe the fc3s, but rotaries freak me out a bit and for what I'd pay for one I still think I like the other two much better. They shouldn't freak you out, just look at it as an opportunity to learn something new. It sounds like you are leaning heavily towards the MR2, so I think you should go that way. I had no idea you could find a turbo model in your price range.
Pretty clean and stock. Nearly pulled the trigger on it but it's one of the first cars I came across a few weeks ago and told myself to calm down and make sure I know what I want because I had just started looking. And now it looks like it might be sold.
http://www.mr2.com/forums/mk-2-cars/Toyota-MR2-56208-fs-my-white-mr2.html
Also, TODAY, I'm really really leaning towards a white sc300. If I could find one locally I might go pick it up. I just wish I could fucking decide and stick with it, because tomorrow if there was a local mr2 I might just pick it up. I was hoping the thread would guide me in one particular way but I'm still just as uncertain as I was when I posted it.
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#5023197 - 09/09/10 04:25 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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PM the guy and see if it's still available, tell him you have cash in hand. Who knows if the other guy followed through with it.
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#5023232 - 09/09/10 04:36 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Mustang fills the criteria very well, from what it seems. SN95 is fairly good looking, pretty reliable, modification potential is enormous, and they kick ass at the track, if they are setup properly. If you go for the 5.0, they are also easy to work on, easy to tune, and cheap to get power out of, although you don't exactly start with a whole lot to begin with.
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#5023237 - 09/09/10 04:38 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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[quote=Euphoric]about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis...
thats an issue for non m's mostly.
though the M has its fair share of things to look out for.
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#5023242 - 09/09/10 04:39 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Euphoric
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I just checked it out. Dude has it at his harley shop a block from my work. I guess it was payment because some dude owed him money. He's firm in the $2k. Has milky coolant, overheats just idling and cyl 3 misfire code. Guy doesnt know any of the history on it. Missing passenger wheel cover ($115 shipped on eBay) Clean title, straight as an arrow body. What are the chances I could pull the head, mill that, put a new gasket kit in and it'd be good? Last thing i want to have to do is pull a block to have it decked.
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#5023441 - 09/09/10 06:08 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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I don't know if I'd be comfortable buying stuff from someone who can't spell.
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#5023957 - 09/09/10 09:30 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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With import, you often get import tax on the parts. I try to keep my car fairly clean, and in good running condition, and even when parts go bad, usually you can go and pick them up for almost nothing at the autozone. If you are meticulous like me, you can also purchase MotorCraft parts for not a lot more. Junk yards are stocked with those cars, so parts are available from there as well.
Suspension wise, you can go crazy and spend almost 10 grand on stuff that will make it handle like a gokart, but you can also get about 80% of that with just good springs, shocks, and sway bar kit, and wider set of wheels of course.
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#5024077 - 09/09/10 10:14 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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[quote=Euphoric]about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis...
really? thats an issue for non m's mostly. though the M has its fair share of things to look out for.
yeah, he was showing me where the floor of his trunk was creasing, and cracking.
I had no idea that generation had any issues back there.
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#5024528 - 09/10/10 06:53 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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2k for that insight. wtf lol id do it
all 3 series suffer from various issues with the rear suspension. though if cared for it shouldnt be an issue.
I just learned not-too-long-ago about e36 rear subframes pulling from the chassis... wicked cool. I always thought they were pretty sturdy. of course, the E30 rot is pretty well known. I say volvo... DAMN IT! hell, you could probably find an old xj6 and do a kickass swap to it, too. ohhh... get an xr4ti! or mercury capri turbo (miata, not mustang)
e46s and z3s have the subframe tearing problem too. google e46 subframe tear, you'll see.
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#5024607 - 09/10/10 08:09 AM
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I don't know if I'd be comfortable buying stuff from someone who can't spell.
Haha! Yeah, I agree...after a limited forum search on google though, that guy is supposed to be teh best guy to get a turbo kit from lol As you may expect, spelling, punctuation, and grammar weren't exactly strong within those forums either.
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#5026124 - 09/10/10 06:02 PM
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Also, TODAY, I'm really really leaning towards a white sc300. If I could find one locally I might go pick it up. I just wish I could fucking decide and stick with it, because tomorrow if there was a local mr2 I might just pick it up. I was hoping the thread would guide me in one particular way but I'm still just as uncertain as I was when I posted it.
If you're anxious to just buy something, don't get an MR2. It takes a lot of time to find a good one. The one you posted is a pile. 170k miles? Plan on a new turbo, clutch, timing belt, cap, rotor, coil, wires, coolant flush (huge PITA), AFM, fuel pump, etc.
You should really considering learning what sort of MR2 you would like to build, and then buy someone's well-done project car. http://www.mr2oc.com is a huge resource. Check the FS forum there. A ct20b (JDM turbo) or ct27 (ATS Racing modded stock turbo) car can run a high 12. A TD06 or GT28rs is getting very fast. A t3/t4 KO Racing Street Brawler (SB46 or 50 trim) is an awesome kit. Anything bigger is redonkulous and incredibly fast. Look for a car with quality headwork (cams, oversized valves, port) done by a reputable shop. This will save you an assload.
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#5026125 - 09/10/10 06:03 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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2800 bucks though dude. He's looking for a project, after all.
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#5026340 - 09/10/10 08:19 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5026862 - 09/11/10 12:29 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5026955 - 09/11/10 02:00 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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you can get soarers here... (jdm import of course)
i usually see a few a year.
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#5026963 - 09/11/10 02:28 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Again, surf for Toyota Soarers. Cheaper, and better chances of finding 5mt. ..Unfortunately I cannot locate one single example in Arizona for you
They aren't common here in the states at all. That'd be an option if they existed here in masses but any here are imported and thus have the imported rhd premium on them. And Canadia is apparently easier but from what i gather it's not worth trying to import any jdm vehicle myself and pay all the fees and parts to make it emissions legal especially when I'm trying to keep this super low budget.
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#5027291 - 09/11/10 11:53 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Just get an SC300, slap a 1500 dollar turbo kit on it, tune it and call it a day. Even the auto will handle 450whp.
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#5027347 - 09/11/10 12:28 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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[quote]Oooh, I like that $6500 Turbo. It has a lot of stuff done that will save you the trouble and cash. It should be a high 12/low 13 second 106-108 mph car if it's running right. I'm not crazy about the JDM motor swap, but it shouldn't be a problem; most USDM to JDM parts are interchangeable. The new tranny, clutch, and turbo are a huge bonuses. As is the sunroof. I hated my t-tops and it's very hard to find a Turbo w/o t-tops. Hardtop is the dream; sunroof is good; t-tops suck IMO.[/img]
*jumps up and down*
how about a base model, since it's a project that's going to be worked over extensively and should provide a cheaper starting point!?!?!
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#5027367 - 09/11/10 12:39 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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*jumps up and down* how about a base model, since it's a project that's going to be worked over extensively and should provide a cheaper starting point!?!?!
I'm lazy and cheap. $6500 for a car that likely runs 12's and has new everything (engine, tranny, clutch, turbo, IC, wheels, tires, paint?) is a win in my book. There will still be plenty of weekend wrenching to do on this car.
An NA car with as clean of an interior and exterior will cost $4k. There's no way you get an NA car as fast for an additional $2500.
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#5027657 - 09/11/10 05:15 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Well it's definitely going to be an SC or MR2. I'm just going to sit and wait for one that I like to pop up in Tucson or Phoenix so I don't waste 8 hrs driving to LA to find it's a pile of shit. I posted in a thread in OT these two cars as examples of what I'll likely end up getting $5300 http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/1890258625.html$6500 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/1940139593.html Just a little patience and save a little more cash. I wish I could go pick on of those up today but in the past 4 months I've bought a brand new truck, a boat, and a camping trailer so my fun-funds are mostly depleted. I'm itching to get something today, but I realize it's best for me to wait save more, and get something better.
Damn that's a nice price. My cousin also has a white sc300. It's a '97 with the revised tail lamps, but it's a 5-spd. Kinda paid out of the ass for it, too. $11k, 70k miles back in '04 or '05.
Funny that you're looking for an mr2. My other cousin (sc300 boy's brother) had a '93 silver w/ black t-tops, chrome supra turbo wheels, and a 3rd gen 3s-gte w/ ct20b turbo for a month. Shit was quick. Ran 12's. Too bad it caught on fire in a best buy parking lot. Sucks. Oh well. Good luck!
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#5028467 - 09/12/10 10:13 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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you can get soarers here... (jdm import of course)
i usually see a few a year.
I saw a hot as fuck FD here in Barrie and thought 'Holy shit a chick is driving it?!??!!'
...........until I realized it was RHD
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#5029512 - 09/12/10 11:25 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Miatas are out, sorry, I just don't like them and I know they'd get suggested. I see this, but all I can think of is this... Miatas are out, because I'm not man enough to drive one sorry, I just don't like them because other dudes won't approve and I know they'd get suggested because they are the best option in my price range. I'd rather blow head gaskets and lots of dudes behind closed doors instead.
Oh puhlease...
He's not the only one that doesn't like Miatas. I don't like them either, never have and never will. Yes, I've driven them and know they are fun to drive, but to me their styling is weak and their motors are weak.
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#5029713 - 09/13/10 05:26 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5032045 - 09/14/10 02:17 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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#5070321 - 09/30/10 12:52 AM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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LSx now!
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#5072701 - 09/30/10 09:35 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Man, I think you made a great choice. Proven platform for modding, with exactly the right parts intact, and the wrong parts broken. And plenty of money leftover for mawds. Sweet.
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#5072762 - 09/30/10 10:18 PM
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Great project car!
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#5073329 - 10/01/10 09:21 AM
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SHOULDA GOT A 5.OH!!!
lol seriously though, awesome car
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#5074297 - 10/01/10 02:34 PM
Re: What to buy? RWD, $2-4k
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Well I got an offer on my wheels tonight. If the dude actually comes through (who knows. fucking craigslist) I'll probably be ordering a GENIII swap from EMS Powered in the next week unless someone has a different importer to suggest. I've been reading about mr2 stuff like crazy all day. It's all new to me so there's a lot to take in. I'm gonna go crazy ordering shit. lol.
What kind of price are you getting on the Gen III swap? My room mate got his (IIRC) from EO Performance. PETC on MR2board if you have any questions. His MR2 makes 270/270: Gen III engine, intake, exhaust, fuel pump.
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#5074437 - 10/01/10 03:23 PM
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$2100 shipped from emspowered.com. I'll still need an intercooler, exhaust, and shift linkage.
* JDM Gen3 3SGTE Engine
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* And all other parts related to the motor (if you have questions about a specific part please call or email us)
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#5074482 - 10/01/10 03:38 PM
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whoa wait a second, you got a base model to do a swap with!?!
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#5074634 - 10/01/10 04:43 PM
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The OEM short block is pretty damn stout with just the addition of forged pistons.
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#5074746 - 10/01/10 05:43 PM
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Nice grab, I wanted one of these back in the day, will be a fun project!
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#5075788 - 10/02/10 12:44 PM
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The OEM short block is pretty damn stout with just the addition of forged pistons. you could say that for just about anything
Uh, some cars have weak connecting rods and stout pistons (VW). interesting...what else is different on the base model? Anything that can't be easily fixed....like say....steering ratio? Hated how the n/a fc3s was different than the turbo...why???
Brakes are the biggest weaksauce problem on the NA cars. Steering ratio is the same I think... it's only different between manual racks and power assisted racks. $2100 shipped from emspowered.com. I'll still need an intercooler, exhaust, and shift linkage.
Again, just make sure 300ish whp is where you want to be, otherwise your money is better spent on a GenII with a built head. The GenIII block has failed more often than the GenII. I can't recall any GenII block failures. What are you doing for a transmission?
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$2100 shipped from emspowered.com. I'll still need an intercooler, exhaust, and shift linkage.
Again, just make sure 300ish whp is where you want to be, otherwise your money is better spent on a GenII with a built head. The GenIII block has failed more often than the GenII. I can't recall any GenII block failures. What are you doing for a transmission? [/quote]
Yeah I noticed after I posted that a tranny isn't listed in there. He wants like 2950 for the swap with jdm LSD tranny. I found some importers through ebay that kill that price. Aside from where to buy I'm still not 100% sure what I want to do. I'm leaning towards buying the swap, doing pistons, rods and 272s. It'll be build kinda like my DSM was with that stuff. But I'm still reading and seeing if it'd be worth doing that stuff and what kind of boost I can push through it or what turbos the sw20 guys like to run. Right now it's just all ideas and research.
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