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#5007916 - 09/02/10 01:02 PM Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute?
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inspired by this thread

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/5005087/fpart/1

Let's say you found a job which allows you to work from Home 2-3 days a week and work in an office 2-3 days a week and the commute time each way is 10 minutes from your home.

You leave the house by 830, grab a coffee, get to the office by 9 to start the day. When the day is done around 5 o clock, you get home by 5 10 to 5 15.

The way I see it, saving an hour each way for commuting is a huge saving to your time and you'd have more time to yourself than dealing w/ idiots in the GTA during the commute.

OR would you take an extra 10 to 15 grand increase to your pay to commute for an hour +/- each way everyday?

I'd take the paycut anyday of the week cuz that's 2 +/- hours taken off of your day plus you dont spend as much on gas + wear and tear on the car to get to work.
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#5007917 - 09/02/10 01:03 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: c2k]
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#5007922 - 09/02/10 01:04 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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say wha? where?
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#5007932 - 09/02/10 01:06 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: c2k]
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Right now no, in the future maybe yes (when I run a side business and need more time away from the full time job).

15 stacks is a lot of cash though, i doubt many people would take THAT big of a pay cut. 5k is more realistic.

/not a csi baller

15k and if you cut my salary in half y0 /faux baller.

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#5007946 - 09/02/10 01:10 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Risky Business]
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10k yes if my commute was under 20min each way.
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#5007947 - 09/02/10 01:10 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Risky Business]
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That's basically my current job schedule since my client is in the US. I wouldn't take 10K pre tax for 2 hour extra commute. That is like 6k after taxes, not life changing at all. But that 2 hours is.
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#5007950 - 09/02/10 01:11 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Right now no, in the future maybe yes (when I run a side business and need more time away from the full time job).

15 stacks is a lot of cash though, i doubt many people would take THAT big of a pay cut. 5k is more realistic.

/not a csi baller

15k and if you cut my salary in half y0 /faux baller.


Yeah but remember we get killed on tax so that 10k (I would rather not lose 15 haha) is more like 7k. Savings on gas and time alone may make up for it.
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#5007955 - 09/02/10 01:12 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Risky Business]
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I'm about to take a 22k pay cut because of it, but it'll also free up some days of the week. Commute is just as far, I just do it less.

I leave my house at 7:10, get on the 7:31 train getting into union just after 8. Take the subway to bloor, ride across bloor to jane, take the bus up jane to dundas st w, then walk a block, in my seat by 9ish. On the way home, leave at 6:20, in the house at 8:20. 4hrs and $20/day, do it 4 days / week.

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#5007968 - 09/02/10 01:14 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: 87ZCSi]
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That commute sounds like hell dude.
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#5007975 - 09/02/10 01:15 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: c2k]
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 Originally Posted By: c2k
say wha? where?


http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php?...rue#Post4888420

well, close enough :P
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#5007986 - 09/02/10 01:19 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: c2k]
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nope. thats too much.

and i'd still drive stick in the traffic \:D
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#5007993 - 09/02/10 01:21 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: JEFFOS]
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 Originally Posted By: JEFFOS69
That commute sounds like hell dude.


Yeah, I get funny looks at work when people hear I live in Ajax. I'm supposed to be part time though so I'll be turning down the extension of my full time contract.

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#5008010 - 09/02/10 01:26 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: f22b-dohc]
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Well, it's all about the math.

What will -$15K do to your budget? What will you lose? Can you even afford to lose that much at all?
How much do you think your 2 hours of commuting are costing you? Try to attach a dollar figure to it.

Go over the numbers and figure out if it's really worth it.

In this day and age of expensive everything in Toronto, can you really afford to lose that much?
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#5008011 - 09/02/10 01:26 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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At my old job, I could work from home whenever I wanted. Commute time to Yonge/St.Clair was about 40-45 minutes. I traded that for a job paying 20k more. I can still work from home at the new job, but its less flexible than before.
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#5008015 - 09/02/10 01:27 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I can see where you guys are coming from, if you're making 70k a year and you take a cut down to 60 and you'd actually end up taking home more $ since I *think* the income tax bracket comes in if you make more than 65k a year.
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#5008017 - 09/02/10 01:29 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I would say the job itself is more important to me than the commute. I posted in another thread about my hellish commute from Brampton to downtown a couple of companies ago.

But, if the job were more aligned with what I want to do, a better work environment, and less stress, then that would justify a pay cut much more than a shorter commute.

Can you tell I need to switch careers?
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#5008026 - 09/02/10 01:33 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: c2k]
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 Originally Posted By: c2k
I can see where you guys are coming from, if you're making 70k a year and you take a cut down to 60 and you'd actually end up taking home more $ since I *think* the income tax bracket comes in if you make more than 65k a year.


http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

As for the question, no I wouldn't because my commute is perfectly acceptable at the moment. 20-30 minutes most days on generally uncrowded suburban roads.

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#5008060 - 09/02/10 01:43 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: 87ZCSi]
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 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi

I leave my house at 7:10, get on the 7:31 train getting into union just after 8. Take the subway to bloor, ride across bloor to jane, take the bus up jane to dundas st w, then walk a block, in my seat by 9ish. On the way home, leave at 6:20, in the house at 8:20. 4hrs and $20/day, do it 4 days / week.


I'll keep my 'M' postal code any day of the week over BBQ'ing on the front porch.

Honestly though, have you considered driving to Kennedy, and exiting the subway at Dundas West? Two fares, one parking receipt + gas.

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#5008088 - 09/02/10 01:52 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: CivicGSR50]
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Fiance works right by go so we drive to the go together. Also, my 330 wouldn't look the same sitting at the TTC all day every day. Starting Oct 1 I work 10 days / 4wk period down here so it won't be so bad. I work 4 days /4wk period next to home, and 6 days every 4 weeks I have off.
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#5008122 - 09/02/10 02:01 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: 87ZCSi]
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 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
I'm about to take a 22k pay cut because of it, but it'll also free up some days of the week. Commute is just as far, I just do it less.

I leave my house at 7:10, get on the 7:31 train getting into union just after 8. Take the subway to bloor, ride across bloor to jane, take the bus up jane to dundas st w, then walk a block, in my seat by 9ish. On the way home, leave at 6:20, in the house at 8:20. 4hrs and $20/day, do it 4 days / week.
Wow! You are nuts! I left my house at 7:40 this morning, drove to the go station, parked, got the 7:53 train, and I was having a coffee at work by 8:30. No rush, leisurely drive to the station, leisurely walk to work from the station.

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#5008143 - 09/02/10 02:08 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
I'm about to take a 22k pay cut because of it, but it'll also free up some days of the week. Commute is just as far, I just do it less.

I leave my house at 7:10, get on the 7:31 train getting into union just after 8. Take the subway to bloor, ride across bloor to jane, take the bus up jane to dundas st w, then walk a block, in my seat by 9ish. On the way home, leave at 6:20, in the house at 8:20. 4hrs and $20/day, do it 4 days / week.
Wow! You are nuts! I left my house at 7:40 this morning, drove to the go station, parked, got the 7:53 train, and I was having a coffee at work by 8:30. No rush, leisurely drive to the station, leisurely walk to work from the station.


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#5008444 - 09/02/10 03:51 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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my commute is 5-7 minutes, so no. However, if it was an hour or more, yes!!
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#5008458 - 09/02/10 03:55 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck
 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi
I'm about to take a 22k pay cut because of it, but it'll also free up some days of the week. Commute is just as far, I just do it less.

I leave my house at 7:10, get on the 7:31 train getting into union just after 8. Take the subway to bloor, ride across bloor to jane, take the bus up jane to dundas st w, then walk a block, in my seat by 9ish. On the way home, leave at 6:20, in the house at 8:20. 4hrs and $20/day, do it 4 days / week.
Wow! You are nuts! I left my house at 7:40 this morning, drove to the go station, parked, got the 7:53 train, and I was having a coffee at work by 8:30. No rush, leisurely drive to the station, leisurely walk to work from the station.


I think it's funny that you think he is nuts because of a 2 hour commute yet yours is very near 1 hour. I mean, ya, he's shitballs crazy for doing that but I also think you're crazy for travelling an hour. I know I live near a shithole city but I think I would take this shithole anyday over living in the land of the commute.

less then 5 minute drive for me to work, so no, i wouldn't take a pay cut.

Bit off topic, but when I was younger I would work stupid hours just to take home a nice fat pay cheque. I'd work 6 days a week, 10-12 hours a day and go to bed happy thinking about money. Now, the older I get the less I care about what my paycheque says. There is nothing I love more then pulling into my driveway at 4pm and having a nice 6-7 hours of free time.

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#5008495 - 09/02/10 04:07 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: robbbby]
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It's all about a good work/life balance. Also living and commuting in the GTA is usually because that's where most job opportunities are and of the places where you can really build a progressing career (depends what you do)

On top of that people bust their ass earlier on in life so they can get to a position and sort of chill out. They could never get to that position otherwise without busting their ass for the experience beforehand though.
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#5008649 - 09/02/10 05:10 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: robbbby]
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I think it's funny that you think he is nuts because of a 2 hour commute yet yours is very near 1 hour. I mean, ya, he's shitballs crazy for doing that but I also think you're crazy for travelling an hour.
Most days, its between 35-45 minutes, an hour on a bad day. I've done the 248 steps to work from an 800 sq.ft condo, its not for me or anyone with a family. My commute isn't stressful, e.g I leave work at 4:00, I'm on the 4:10 express to Rouge Hill, gets me there at 4:31., and I'm home by 4:40.

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#5008774 - 09/02/10 06:20 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: CivicGSR50]
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 Originally Posted By: CivicGSR50
 Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi

I leave my house at 7:10, get on the 7:31 train getting into union just after 8. Take the subway to bloor, ride across bloor to jane, take the bus up jane to dundas st w, then walk a block, in my seat by 9ish. On the way home, leave at 6:20, in the house at 8:20. 4hrs and $20/day, do it 4 days / week.


I'll keep my 'M' postal code any day of the week over BBQ'ing on the front porch.

Honestly though, have you considered driving to Kennedy, and exiting the subway at Dundas West? Two fares, one parking receipt + gas.

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#5008885 - 09/02/10 07:21 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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I took a 15k increase to work an average of 3 hours a day and ride my motorcycle for the rest of the day :D. No real commute. Most days I leave by 9-10am and home by 3-4 pm
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#5009147 - 09/02/10 09:32 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: C J Fly]
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#5009420 - 09/02/10 11:16 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I used to roll out of bed 30 mins before the start of work in my old place and make it to my desk on time... those were the days... then the temporary commute from Markham really killed me and I swore to never commute longer than 30 mins... now in my new place its takes me about 20 mins which at times sucks when I think about my old 5 min commute, but rocks compared to my old 50 min commute.

Bottom line for me, the closer you live to work, the better... my health and my time are way more valuable to me than money.

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#5009423 - 09/02/10 11:18 PM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Alpha-Trion]
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Alpha, you are 100% right, but my question to all of you is: do you plan to work for your employer forever?

If i buy a house one day, I don't know where to buy because my next job can be anywhere and I know that in order for me to pull down decent coin I need to move around every 2-3 years. I can't guarantee I will have a job near my house and that's what sucks. Do you guys plan to work for the same place/location for the rest of your life?

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#5009571 - 09/03/10 01:49 AM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Risky Business]
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$10-$15k? that's about $6k to $10k in take home that I'd lose ...

Currently, the wife, kid and I car pool. I do all the drop offs (kid to school first, then wife to work, then i dump the car at the secondary office (parking = $25 / month) and take the subway down (VIP metropass = $107 / month). Gas bill is about $300 / month so that gets us $420 / month

If I got a job closer to home, wife will still have to drive but use less gas while I'd have to take a 2nd car - so gas bill is about the same (for arguments' sake). My metropass cost will roll to her monthly parking cost (it's actually $120 / month in her building) ... so the cost would stay the same.

So nope. That won't do.

Plus there are other perks at my current job - current manager is really easy going, doesn't mind I come in late and leave at my regular hour (cuz I do citrix in from home at night to take care of stuff w/o asking); and the new guy on my team is a P. Eng. so I'm hoping to get my P. Eng. hours taken care of so I can get my own P. Eng.

I'll probably stick it out for a couple of more years.
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#5009650 - 09/03/10 03:49 AM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: hyper-s2k]
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I would not do that, but I also wouldn't do Wes's commute either.

My commute involves me sitting in the car on the 401 for 30 minutes, no big deal really.
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#5009784 - 09/03/10 08:36 AM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: SiZ]
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I took a $24k increase to drive 1hour 10 mins in the morning & average 2hrs back in the evening... Toronto to Waterloo.

wake up & leave by 7am, make it to the office by 8:15, leave at 3:45 to 4:30pm, depending & get home for around 6pm... only the ride home is brutal, and the last 17km home takes almost an hour to an hour long...

I do have the option of working from our Mississauga office, which i do about once a week (i'm there now LOL), so I'm glad for that, and working from home during extreme weather is always an option thanks to VPN and Cisco IP softphones \:D


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#5009873 - 09/03/10 09:22 AM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: Risky Business]
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Vas, that's my deal now too.
I'm now at a point where I'm looking for a place to buy. But where?
I live and work in District 2 (which is North of Eg and East of Yonge) unless I opt to try and work in one of the other 4.
Currently, living at Leslie and Finch, it takes as much as 20 minutes and as little as 3 to get to work. I'm still new on the job so I'm swung around stations for sets at a time. But eventually I'll own a spot.

A ton of people in D2 live in Ajax, a few in Aurora/Newmarket. A few in Port Perry/Utica/Brooklyn, but I don't want to live that far. I love the short commute. But man, pricing in the M area code is quite up there... and York region isn't actually that much better at the moment. Durham seems to be the most enticing but fek.

I agree that now, my health is more of a concern than money. I need my body to still be good to do my job til retirement... but that said I'm fortunate that it doesn't really play a role for me since I'm paid by the hour and my commute isn't long, so I milk it for everything I can get.
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#5009916 - 09/03/10 09:38 AM Re: Would you take a 10-15 grand paycut for a shorter commute? [Re: 355-Si]
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People ask me why I moved to Ajax, like it's a bad thing, and I say cause I bought where I wanted to live and my job wasn't going to determine that. If I didn't have the entrepeneural spirit I may have a different opinion on that. I've done the walk to work before when I worked at Yonge and College and it was great, but when I did get home I was miserable and bored. My only complaint with Ajax is that it's too new and therefore there's not a lot of head office / white collar jobs like Toronto and Mississauga. It's very consumer driven.
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