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#4596066 - 03/16/10 05:10 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Alexandre]
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 Originally Posted By: Alexandre
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 Originally Posted By: Alexandre
M series vehicles make me very very very happy. I LOVE my car, the driving experience never fails, be it a 1 km drive or a 60km run at 3 am in the morning to Oshawa to see my gf like I did last night after a night of clubbing.

I hope that all "true" car enthusiasts get to experience it once in their life, it's such a worthwhile experience and forgoing one would leave you deprived of one of the best driving experiences out there.

/no homo

My only complaint is that drivng 240km/h or 110km/h feels the same \:\)
besides noise its like that in most competent cars these days .

yes even my turd felt the same at 120 or 220.


Grow up man, for fuck's sake. Every time it's the same shit with you. And no your SiR doesn't feel ANYTHING like an e36 m3 at high speeds. Not even remotely close, true story bro, google it. Never mind you already did that right?
where did I say it felt like a bmw?
i said it feels confident and the same at 220 compared to 120. the only difference is noise(from rpm/wind noise). thats it. its solid as a rock. i dont fucking care if you disagree. i owned the fucking thing for 10 yrs . i know what its like.

stfu
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#4596071 - 03/16/10 05:10 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Shinobi_SiR]
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 Originally Posted By: Shinobi_SiR
This one's easy -

based on how you speak - over the internet anyway, I'd suggest keeping the civic and getting a Morgan.

buwhahaa.
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#4596338 - 03/16/10 07:03 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: Alexandre
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
 Originally Posted By: Alexandre
M series vehicles make me very very very happy. I LOVE my car, the driving experience never fails, be it a 1 km drive or a 60km run at 3 am in the morning to Oshawa to see my gf like I did last night after a night of clubbing.

I hope that all "true" car enthusiasts get to experience it once in their life, it's such a worthwhile experience and forgoing one would leave you deprived of one of the best driving experiences out there.

/no homo

My only complaint is that drivng 240km/h or 110km/h feels the same \:\)
besides noise its like that in most competent cars these days .

yes even my turd felt the same at 120 or 220.


Grow up man, for fuck's sake. Every time it's the same shit with you. And no your SiR doesn't feel ANYTHING like an e36 m3 at high speeds. Not even remotely close, true story bro, google it. Never mind you already did that right?
where did I say it felt like a bmw?
i said it feels confident and the same at 220 compared to 120. the only difference is noise(from rpm/wind noise). thats it. its solid as a rock. i dont fucking care if you disagree. i owned the fucking thing for 10 yrs . i know what its like.

stfu


And i owned one for 5 years, i definitely didn't feel all that comfortable at 190km/h (I think mine was limited at that).
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#4596370 - 03/16/10 07:16 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Shinobi_SiR]
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 Originally Posted By: Shinobi_SiR
This one's easy -

based on how you speak - over the internet anyway, I'd suggest keeping the civic and getting a Morgan.

20+ years old, check
British, check
Handling, check
15-20k price range, check, but you wont get a plus-8 for that coin.

One of my co-workers has a morgan, we took it to dunnville last season. It wasnt the fastest on the track by far, but wow it was a BLAST to drive and kick around the corners.

That's the car for you!

Here's a plus 8 for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.morgancars-usa.com/ggbridge_sideview.jpg



*strokes chin*

Fascinating... tell me more. ;\)

Don't the newer ones use a Ford V6? Or would we be looking at a Plus 4 only for the price range I'm thinking?
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#4596496 - 03/16/10 07:49 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Alexandre]
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you never owned an sir. kthanksbye. and yes there is a difference

the difference between my g/fs hatch and my car was night and day. it was 100% a diff car.
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#4596518 - 03/16/10 07:53 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
you never owned an sir. kthanksbye. and yes there is a difference

the difference between my g/fs hatch and my car was night and day. it was 100% a diff car.


Uhh negative captain. What's the difference between your '00 Sir and my '00 Si? I had better suspension than you, same wheels and probably better tires, the car was IDENTICAl except an extra 80lbs up front for a b16 over the d16.

WHAT else is different? I had SIR LCA and sway bars, etc. tell me how else it was different....you idiot comparing a hatchback to coupe?!?!?! Fucking gek.
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#4596602 - 03/16/10 08:12 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Alexandre]
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you really want me to?
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#4596691 - 03/16/10 08:37 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#4596838 - 03/16/10 09:23 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric


you really want me to?


Fighting aside, yes Jon, please show me the differences between the SiR/Si, it's not like I am comparing an integra GS to a Type R where there are signficant differences, i am compareing a waterdown civic to a regular civic. Anyway, i will be waiting for your response on how the high speed stability of a Si and a SiR differs.
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#4596890 - 03/16/10 09:40 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Alexandre]
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 Originally Posted By: Alexandre
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
you never owned an sir. kthanksbye. and yes there is a difference

the difference between my g/fs hatch and my car was night and day. it was 100% a diff car.


Uhh negative captain. What's the difference between your '00 Sir and my '00 Si? I had better suspension than you, same wheels and probably better tires, the car was IDENTICAl except an extra 80lbs up front for a b16 over the d16.

WHAT else is different? I had SIR LCA and sway bars, etc. tell me how else it was different....you idiot comparing a hatchback to coupe?!?!?! Fucking gek.



His car was touched by the hands of Euphoric.......
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#4596913 - 03/16/10 09:53 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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Plus four, they are TONNES of fun to drive.

I'll PM you with more information tomorrow.

 Originally Posted By: Humourless
 Originally Posted By: Shinobi_SiR
This one's easy -

based on how you speak - over the internet anyway, I'd suggest keeping the civic and getting a Morgan.

20+ years old, check
British, check
Handling, check
15-20k price range, check, but you wont get a plus-8 for that coin.

One of my co-workers has a morgan, we took it to dunnville last season. It wasnt the fastest on the track by far, but wow it was a BLAST to drive and kick around the corners.

That's the car for you!

Here's a plus 8 for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.morgancars-usa.com/ggbridge_sideview.jpg



*strokes chin*

Fascinating... tell me more. ;\)

Don't the newer ones use a Ford V6? Or would we be looking at a Plus 4 only for the price range I'm thinking?
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#4597016 - 03/16/10 10:56 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Shinobi_SiR]
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i could see humourless in this group

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqjZlx4sRtI
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#4597408 - 03/17/10 05:15 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Euphoricuck]
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They look like a bunch of Tory-voting scum. Nice cars though.
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#4758557 - 05/20/10 07:28 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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So I'm considering one of these now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R107

I'm thinking an '86 through '89 model. Not as nice to drive as a 635, but they're ten times easier to find, are at the bottom of their depreciation curve, spares are readily available, and since I've never owned a V8 car, it might be time for one.

Plus it's well within my budget (plenty of good examples between $14,000 and $20,000 on the market at the moment).

Thoughts?
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#4758596 - 05/20/10 08:05 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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That's alright, but I don't think that car suits you

I've always been a huge fan of these. Love them hard

The shape is timeless and classic, like the e36 m3 ;\)


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#4758597 - 05/20/10 08:05 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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I know I'm in the extreme minority on this but if I had the the money and time for upkeep, I would love to own an XJ-S.
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#4758682 - 05/20/10 08:33 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Risky Business]
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That's alright, but I don't think that car suits you

I've always been a huge fan of these. Love them hard

The shape is timeless and classic, like the e36 m3 ;\)



I'm just not as sanguine on those. I know that on paper they're superior to the R107s, but I'm not as fond of the indistinct styling, and they seem to come from a time when Mercedes was starting to lose the plot when it came to quality.

The R107 was produced from the early '70s to the end of the '80s. That alone tends to qualify it a little more for the "timeless" moniker since it was simply around for so long (and helps explain why they're so easy to find.)

Plus good ones of the '00 and later series are slightly out of my price ceiling. To get something that fits the budget it would have to be a very early model or a slightly knackered one.
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#4758686 - 05/20/10 08:34 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: BISH0P]
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I know I'm in the extreme minority on this but if I had the the money and time for upkeep, I would love to own an XJ-S.


I'd love one of those, but good ones are hard to find and any pre-late'90s Jag is going to be a reliability crapshoot.
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#4758700 - 05/20/10 08:40 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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 Originally Posted By: Humourless



I'm just not as sanguine on those. I know that on paper they're superior to the R107s, but I'm not as fond of the indistinct styling, and they seem to come from a time when Mercedes was starting to lose the plot when it came to quality.

The R107 was produced from the early '70s to the end of the '80s. That alone tends to qualify it a little more for the "timeless" moniker since it was simply around for so long (and helps explain why they're so easy to find.)

Plus good ones of the '00 and later series are slightly out of my price ceiling. To get something that fits the budget it would have to be a very early model or a slightly knackered one.
I completely disagree with you on this. These were around all through the '90s and even through part of the 00's. I think the styling is great, advanced for its time.

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#4758719 - 05/20/10 08:51 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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I just don't think it aged as well.

It has that "soap bar" styling so common of the era. Twelve years is significantly less than 18 (though still a long time, I'll grant you that). And the lightest ones with a six cylinder are still a full two tons of metal. Jesus.
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#4758787 - 05/20/10 09:22 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Risky Business]
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That's alright, but I don't think that car suits you

I've always been a huge fan of these. Love them hard

The shape is timeless and classic, like the e36 m3 ;\)



Serious wheels indeed. I'd love to get my hands on one of these too but then it would look like I am driving my Dad's car. \:\(

As for the R107, I was reading the Merc magasine at Chapters, they talk about these a lot and how they are great bargains for what they are and a good "investment" as it will appreciate.

I personally would go for something older as I grew up looking at the R107. If I EVER had enough $$$$ to own & keep a strictly toy classic car, I'd opt for something older...



OR if I was to strike it SUPER $$$$$, I'd have one of these as my dream classics


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#4758792 - 05/20/10 09:24 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Is an 70s Porsche 911 too much out of the $$$ range? I could totally see you in one of these.


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#4758941 - 05/20/10 10:24 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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omg, this is sooo hawt


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#4759156 - 05/20/10 11:19 AM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Risky Business]
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I agree! screw the r107 .
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#4759760 - 05/20/10 02:16 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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 Originally Posted By: A2B-Civic
Is an 70s Porsche 911 too much out of the $$$ range? I could totally see you in one of these.



Love these. Pretty hard to find though. Lot's of mid-80's 944's out there though for a pretty good buck.
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#4760222 - 05/20/10 06:04 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
omg, this is sooo hawt



Well, nice idea. Would I like one? Sure, but:

- There is precisely one W113 offered for sale on Autotrader right now (all the way over in Ottawa) and one on Craigslist in Toronto.
- By way of comparison there are around twenty R107s within 100km of Burlington.
- Both W113s are well in excess of what I want to spend.

As for the Porsche - I had a chance to drive one a couple of years ago and came away really underwhelmed. I thought I would love the car, but it just didn't feel special enough to me. You know what they say about how you should never meet your childhood heroes....
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#4760332 - 05/20/10 07:03 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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#4760357 - 05/20/10 07:19 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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I can't see the w113 from craigslist.

http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/oak/cto/1703886004.html

mmmmmm.....Porsche + spare engine.

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#4760440 - 05/20/10 08:12 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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oh no. god forbid you have to go to Ottawa or somewhere that far to buy an old "Rare" car
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#4760443 - 05/20/10 08:13 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Euphoricuck]
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113 is way better looking.

just get a triumph already ;\)
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#4760516 - 05/20/10 08:42 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Euphoricuck]
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oh no. god forbid you have to go to Ottawa or somewhere that far to buy an old "Rare" car


Yes, because it's a trivial thing for me to drive all the way out there to look at a car that I may or may not buy when there are plenty of others I do want to consider located within a half hour drive. And like I said all the W113s I found were well above my price range anyway.

Maybe I should start looking in Manitoba? Alberta? New Mexico? Venezuela? Makes perfect sense to me.

Tell you what. You cover my travel expenses and my time (I currently bill it out at $45 an hour) and I'll be happy to go investigate.
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#4760764 - 05/20/10 11:25 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: Humourless]
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If you are looking for a decent older car I dont see why you would make it harder on yourself by making the area of search as small as possible.

Obviously getting on a plane to Munich to see Klaus' rare example is a bit much, but anywhere in southern Ontario should be a place to look. If you have time and are really serious about getting a mint example I wouldnt hesitate to look in the states.


You arent buying some new electronic gizmo. Looking for a great example takes your time (and money). The more work you put in , typically the better off youll be in the end.

And generally for sales far away like that, youll get as much info and pics from the seller. If its far enough away, you basically will go with the intent to buy with the condition its as good as the seller says it is. Get it inspected locally(to the seller) and if it all checks out. Drive it home.
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#4761903 - 05/21/10 12:52 PM Re: Yet another "help me pick a car" thread [Re: c2k]
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 Originally Posted By: c2k
old ass mini + vtec motor = DONE.

You're looking at about 25k all said and done.

Much better to go the gsxr route, comes in around 20k ;\)
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