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#4374934 - 12/27/09 12:19 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: NOHC]
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I agree....

headlights seem to be a perennial topic here, though.
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#4375262 - 12/27/09 04:10 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: CommonGutterTrash]
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hid retro is a worthwhile upgrade for any car that doesnt have it. its so good i wouldnt even call it rice because it helps so much at night. cant argue with better vision at night for those late night toogay runs
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#4375315 - 12/27/09 04:56 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Yeah. HID's mattered a lot to me, I wouldn't consider a car without them. Nothing worse than driving down a road at night and overdriving your headlights while not even speeding.
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#4375571 - 12/27/09 07:32 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
Nothing worse than driving down a road at night and overdriving your headlights while not even speeding.


That is the problem with my Cube headlights. Just going fifty five miles per hour out in the country, I am overdriving them.

I definitely am not doing this upgrade for the rice aspect or whatever. It is all about the functionality.

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#4375877 - 12/27/09 10:27 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: ewraven]
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very true!

but to give some credit some of the newer cars halogens are quite good these days. still not on par with hid but a lot better tahn they used to be
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#4375984 - 12/27/09 11:31 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#4376096 - 12/28/09 12:43 AM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: NOHC]
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Found out somthing the other day. If you have a mid 90s GM with auto headlights , don't put in HIDs.

A co-worker installed some on his lumina and it cooked the headlight swtich.

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#4378069 - 12/28/09 06:33 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Quad4_driver]
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 Originally Posted By: Quad4_driver
Found out somthing the other day. If you have a mid 90s GM with auto headlights , don't put in HIDs.

A co-worker installed some on his lumina and it cooked the headlight swtich.


He didn't bother to install relays?
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#4378197 - 12/28/09 07:43 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: LNXGUY]
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No sir. He did deffinately install relays.He had installed this same set of HIDs into his CRX ,in which they work great. They are a hella kit at 4300k, and even in the stock CRX non-projector houseing , they are way way brighter then stock bulbs. They are even way brighter then the 80 watt bulbs with relays.
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#4378341 - 12/28/09 09:03 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Quad4_driver]
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 Originally Posted By: Quad4_driver
No sir. He did deffinately install relays.He had installed this same set of HIDs into his CRX ,in which they work great. They are a hella kit at 4300k, and even in the stock CRX non-projector houseing , they are way way brighter then stock bulbs. They are even way brighter then the 80 watt bulbs with relays.


If he installed relays, how the fuck did he melt his headlight switch?

The entire point of the relay is to skip the shitty stock wiring and pull power directly from the battery.

That's fucked up
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#4378389 - 12/28/09 09:25 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: LNXGUY]
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We still don't know what the fuck happend.

We had to by-pass the switch completely and wire in a toggle swtich for his low beams. The high beams still work off the headlight swtich.

There is somthing odd about this car though. It has DRLs but they run off the low beam , which I have never seen before. Every other car i've seen with seperate high and low bulbs uses the high beams for DRLs.

We think it has somthing to do with the DRLs.

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#4378846 - 12/29/09 12:42 AM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: ewraven]
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I just discovered this awesome article about HID conversion kits...
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

I did not realize that these things were illegal for road use and Daniel Stern's article makes a lot of sense just reinforcing what some of you are have posted.

That HID kit should be here at my house on Thursday. I guess I'll return it. I don't even want to try it out now after reading that article.

Oh well, so much for that nutswinging episode!

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#4378864 - 12/29/09 12:55 AM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: ewraven]
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Meh. Nothing is optimal, but I'd rather gamble $85 on a HID kit than waste money on shitty Silverstars.
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#4379309 - 12/29/09 09:42 AM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Impulsive]
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Word? I've had really good luck with Silverstars
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#4379323 - 12/29/09 09:46 AM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: FCobra94]
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I ran a set of HID dropins in a pair ecodes in my Jetta a while ago. Light was way better then stock and I never got highbeamed by anyone.. The kit I had did have a lower shield though, which helped a lot with the glare.

They've been removed and I am currently running stock lights again waiting to do a retro with some TL bi-xenon projectors.
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#4379648 - 12/29/09 12:11 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: FCobra94]
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 Originally Posted By: FCobra94
Word? I've had really good luck with Silverstars


I've never had much luck with them. They are expensive here, I've had them burn out within a year and never really noticed more light. I tried Nighthawks too - again, no noticeable light increase. I'd be tempted to try a higher wattage bulb and use relays.

This is why I just try and find a car with HID's stock (or at least projectors).
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#4379707 - 12/29/09 12:38 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
 Originally Posted By: FCobra94
Word? I've had really good luck with Silverstars


I've never had much luck with them. They are expensive here, I've had them burn out within a year and never really noticed more light. I tried Nighthawks too - again, no noticeable light increase. I'd be tempted to try a higher wattage bulb and use relays.

This is why I just try and find a car with HID's stock (or at least projectors).



I've used and sold just about every aftermarket bulb on the market. Nighthawks are garbage so are sliverstars. The only bulb i've liked are PIAAs, although they are expensive. I had a pair of PIAA 9006s in the grand am for over 3 years before I crashed it.

I've seen a great deal of HID conversions around here , most of them we sell out of our store. Yes some of the time they don't do much better then stock bulbs , however i've seen many that produce much better then stock light. As long as you stay below the 8k color spectrum you won't get an hassle for the law either.

Still nothing is as good a proplery designed projector with an HID , my 530 has better beam projection then any retro fit kit.

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#4379833 - 12/29/09 01:37 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Quad4_driver]
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 Originally Posted By: Quad4_driver


Still nothing is as good a proplery designed projector with an HID , my 530 has better beam projection then any retro fit kit.
than any kit thrown in a halogen housing...yes, but not better than a projector retro fit .
that wil depend on the quality of the job and the actual projector. bmw not having the best...(not knocking at all. ive run e60 projectors in my civic for 3+ yrs)
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#4380144 - 12/29/09 03:27 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Any of you guys running 9005 or 9006 bulbs try the Toshiba H1R's?
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#4380511 - 12/29/09 05:49 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Quad4_driver


Still nothing is as good a proplery designed projector with an HID , my 530 has better beam projection then any retro fit kit.
than any kit thrown in a halogen housing...yes, but not better than a projector retro fit .
that wil depend on the quality of the job and the actual projector. bmw not having the best...(not knocking at all. ive run e60 projectors in my civic for 3+ yrs)


Thats pretty much what i meant. I've seen lots of aftermarket projector coversions with HIDs that are great.

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#4380721 - 12/29/09 07:24 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
Any of you guys running 9005 or 9006 bulbs try the Toshiba H1R's?



No i had not even heard of them before either.

I've just spent the last 2 hours trying to find info on them. There seems to be a lot of car forum talk , but no offical Toshiba web site for them.

Some of car forums say these came in newer vipers. However my computer at work says Vipers come with a D1S ,which is an HID.

EDIT:
This website lists an number of cars that he claims come with these HIR lights
http://hirheadlights.com/

However according to my computer system at work , all of them except the Avalance use HIDs. The Avalance used 9006/9005 on older ones, and H11s on new ones.


Edited by Quad4_driver (12/29/09 07:48 PM)

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#4380746 - 12/29/09 07:37 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Quad4_driver]
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Is there any good way to get OEM-like HIDs in a not originally equipped vehicle? I'd like to upgrade mine (with a drop in kit.)
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#4380899 - 12/29/09 09:18 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Quad4_driver]
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The H1R's are also used in John Deere farm tractors... I think I might try a set in the ZR2 when the current bulbs take a shit.
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#4381027 - 12/29/09 10:38 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: Stock94si]
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Is there any good way to get OEM-like HIDs in a not originally equipped vehicle? I'd like to upgrade mine (with a drop in kit.)


well if yuo dont want to do the retro yourself(which isnt hard..just takes some time) im sure you can find someone somewhat near you who will do it for you OR who sells them already done. ive seen that for most cars in the last couple yrs. theres always 1 guy(or so it seems) of each type of popular light making a wack of them and just selling the lights with the projector already installed. you just wire in your kit and off you go.

check hid planet forums(they are very helpful) and your suby board of choice. im sure someone is offering that service for your car.

there might even be a local shop that will do it for you(but obviously youd want to see finished products first)
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#4417903 - 01/11/10 10:46 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.0 [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
Any of you guys running 9005 or 9006 bulbs try the Toshiba H1R's?



I'm using them for my high beams in my legacy. The HIR bulbs have a special glass shape and coating that reflects alot of the heat produced by the filament back into itself to produce more heat and as a result more light. My wife has an RDX and the H1Rs kick her stock high beams to the damned curb. It's real bad. I also run the Osram rally bulbs that are 65w watts for low beams which are very good for a non-HID setup. Someone mentioned Daniel Stern above, that is the guy to ask about optimum bulb setup for the cube or any car. He suggested the bulbs for my car and I couldn't be happier.


Edited by Dan Smith (01/11/10 10:46 PM)

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#4417925 - 01/11/10 10:55 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.0 [Re: Dan Smith]
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Cool Dan, I was hoping to get some feedback from someone who had tried them out. Looks like I'm going to order a set for the truck.
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#4421406 - 01/12/10 09:43 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.0 [Re: LNXGUY]
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Where do you order them?
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#4421991 - 01/13/10 08:25 AM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.0 [Re: Impulsive]
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Where do you order them?


http://hirheadlights.com/
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#8978810 - 03/20/17 09:57 PM Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00 [Re: NOHC]
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