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#50723 - 07/09/04 06:21 PM Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Kenny (Trixiem) and myself decided to pick up a set of the JDM EK9 sidemarkers from ICB Motorsport in Temple City.
ICB Motorsport Homepage


We printed out a template and used guidelines from this site:
Template and Tips for Sidemarker cutting
The person on the site mentioned they cut the hole smaller than the template, but we found that the template was an exact fit leaving the notch alone and simply following the lines to cut the holes.

The template we followed:


Here is the placement on the fender, 155 mm from the top of the molding to the bottom of the tape and 140 mm from the edge of the door to the edge of the tape.


We then found the center of the intersection, which is where the exact center of the sidemarker:


We then found the center of the template and lined up the two over each other and taped it down.


A drill was used to make the initial hole, then we used a "Metal Nibbler" from RadioShack ($12.99):

(This thing was awesome, and it cut very precisely, even though it took awhile, probably better than using a dremel.)

Getting started on the fender (EEEEEP!). I look scared in that picture. Poor fender.


"T" is for Tony!!


The final hole:


After cutting the hole, add place some touch up paint on the bare metal to help prevent rust. We also plan to get a rubber ring to create a tight seal around the sidemarker or use plumber's putty to help it.

Kenny wiring up the sidemarkers:


There are two wiring options. USDM (Sidemarker only blinks when turn signal is on) or JDM (Sidemarkers stay on and blink alternately with the signal). Pull back the fender liner and remove the corner/parking light. There will be 3 wires going to the bulb. Tap into the corresponding wires for each blinking style.

USDM:
Tap into green(turn signal) and black(ground) wire.
JDM:
Tap into red(parking light) and green(turn signal) wire.

Sidemarker is in!


Installed sidemarkers on our cars:



Practice fender we had before we started:


Practice fender after a hard day of work:


That's about it folks. Hope this is helpful to you all. Thanks for looking.


Edited by SiToeKnee (07/09/04 10:46 PM)
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#50724 - 07/09/04 06:52 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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always wanted to do that. looks good. Good how-to also.
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#50725 - 07/09/04 08:27 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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#50726 - 07/09/04 08:44 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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haha we'd be honored broken, the install wasn't that hard. Also we screwed up a little bit where a corner is showing but you can only see it if you look at it at all angels. Was nerve wrecking cutting into fenders even tho tony did most of the cutting cause i'm a pussy haha. Forgot to mention to use touch up paint to prevent rust on the cut surfaces, i didn't have any VSM so i used tonys EBP touch up on my VSM lol

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#50727 - 07/09/04 10:45 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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haha we'd be honored broken, the install wasn't that hard. Also we screwed up a little bit where a corner is showing but you can only see it if you look at it at all angels. Was nerve wrecking cutting into fenders even tho tony did most of the cutting cause i'm a pussy haha. Forgot to mention to use touch up paint to prevent rust on the cut surfaces, i didn't have any VSM so i used tonys EBP touch up on my VSM lol

-kenny




oops, knew i forgot to add something. i'll put that in now.
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#50728 - 07/09/04 11:33 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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this should be a sticky :D
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#50729 - 07/10/04 10:20 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Nice write up, definately has me thinking about doing it now.
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#50730 - 07/10/04 11:45 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Good information, thanks
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#50731 - 07/11/04 12:48 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Good information, thanks




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#50732 - 07/14/04 12:16 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Good job guys. I'm impressed that you finally did it after all that talk. I told you it wasn't that difficult. The nibblers work pretty goo, huh?

Way to go on the write up. I never have the patiuence to document all my DIYs, so this should help everybody out.
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#50733 - 07/14/04 12:49 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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haha yea thanks chris, all credit goes to him for the nibbler idea

-kenny

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#50734 - 08/13/04 05:40 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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two questions... how'd you connect wire to the sidemarker? you get a connector or something else?


*edit* got template to work now just curious bout wiring...


Edited by EngineNoO9 (08/13/04 05:47 PM)

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#50735 - 08/13/04 07:22 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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two questions... how'd you connect wire to the sidemarker? you get a connector or something else?


*edit* got template to work now just curious bout wiring...




We used crimp connectors that matched the size of the two connectors on the inside of the sidemarker light bulb socket. You can go to radio shack and find some. They look like this:



Just take the socket with you and ask someone to find a connector that will slide on to those two metal tabs inside the socket. Then you can use a wire crimper to attach the wire to run to the tap. Good luck.
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#50736 - 08/13/04 07:45 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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ah ok yeah. i just thought of that as well honestly when i saw an extra one laying around here from installing something else.
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#50737 - 08/13/04 09:58 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Very nice looking, good job. Does it work on a hatchback? ^.^
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#50738 - 08/14/04 04:22 AM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Very nice looking, good job. Does it work on a hatchback? ^.^




Of course.
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#50739 - 08/15/04 07:28 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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just did it today on my hatch. looks nice
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#50740 - 08/16/04 03:20 AM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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just did it today on my hatch. looks nice




awesome!
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#50741 - 09/18/04 04:01 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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bump for people. Im trying it soon as well...Ill post pics when done!

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#50742 - 09/19/04 01:07 AM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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bump for people. Im trying it soon as well...Ill post pics when done!

matt




good luck, hope everything works out for you.
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#50743 - 09/19/04 12:04 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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hey thx for the writeup cuz i did it on my ek and it looks GREAT!
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#50744 - 09/19/04 06:22 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Also, what should I use for connectors? Do I have to buy the honda ones? Or can I use radio shacks stuff? Andf how much for this? Thanks


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#50745 - 09/19/04 09:55 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Also, what should I use for connectors? Do I have to buy the honda ones? Or can I use radio shacks stuff? Andf how much for this? Thanks


matt




You can buy the Honda OEM plugs if you want, they are for the prelude i believe. I used radio shack spade connectors. I'm not sure what the price is off the top of my head, but you buy a package of like 10 for a few bucks. Sorry I can't be of more help. If you search for this same thread in the General Forum, you might find that some people used the Honda plugs and some used the spades.
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#50746 - 09/20/04 09:02 AM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Could you show me the wiring diagram for NOT using the OEM harness please. I dont want pay the exra bucks. Haha. If you could, Id appreciate that. Woot!


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#50747 - 09/20/04 11:25 AM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Could you show me the wiring diagram for NOT using the OEM harness please. I dont want pay the exra bucks. Haha. If you could, Id appreciate that. Woot!


matt




it's actually pretty simple. it doesn't matter which plug taps what wire from the socket of the sidemarker. as long as one wire is tapped into the red wire and the other is tapped into the green. that's if you want them to stay on along with your parking lights. if you want them to only blink with your turn signals, then you will only tap one, i forgot which, i think i stated above which one, and the other wire to tap is the ground wire (black). hope that helps. not sure if that's what you were looking for. good luck.
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#50748 - 09/20/04 01:35 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Good job guys. I'm impressed that you finally did it after all that talk. I told you it wasn't that difficult. The nibblers work pretty goo, huh?

Way to go on the write up. I never have the patiuence to document all my DIYs, so this should help everybody out.




Very very nice write up you guys and easy to understand, If i were to grade this as a college professor I'd give it a A++++!! . Hopefully I can get it started also.
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#50749 - 09/20/04 07:53 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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post them pictures

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#50750 - 09/20/04 08:26 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Havent done it yet. Markers are in the mail. Woot! Whats a shopping list I need for radio shack to finish this shizzit? Thanks guys


Cant wait!
Matt


Also, is the nibbler worth it if I have a dremel?
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#50751 - 09/20/04 11:10 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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good write up tony and kenny.
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#50752 - 09/21/04 01:17 AM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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hmm you need some wire T taps, 4 two on each side marker, and you need some wire, after that you need some spade connecters the ones that tony posted up you need about 4 of those too lol. The nibbler was honestly personal preference, if your good with a dremel you can use that, but we found it to be more accurate and you have more control over the cutting with the nibbler. It works like a holepuncher, but it punchs squares of metal out, so you put it where you wanna punch out and squeeze.

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#50753 - 09/24/04 09:31 AM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Quote:

Also, what should I use for connectors? Do I have to buy the honda ones? Or can I use radio shacks stuff? Andf how much for this? Thanks


matt




You can buy the Honda OEM plugs if you want, they are for the prelude i believe. I used radio shack spade connectors. I'm not sure what the price is off the top of my head, but you buy a package of like 10 for a few bucks. Sorry I can't be of more help. If you search for this same thread in the General Forum, you might find that some people used the Honda plugs and some used the spades.




i went to the honda dealer by me and the parts counter said he didn't think anything they had fit the connector. easier/cheaper to use the spade connectors and they fit snug too. i also sodered the wires off of the turn signals instead of cutting and splicing... haven't checked behind the markers since i did it but they're still working fine....

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#50754 - 09/25/04 08:01 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Ok-

When I went to print out the template, it came out seeminly small. The mm measurements did not match up correctly. So what do I do? Thanks a lot fellas.

matt
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#50755 - 09/25/04 11:10 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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Ok-

When I went to print out the template, it came out seeminly small. The mm measurements did not match up correctly. So what do I do? Thanks a lot fellas.

matt




I printed it out also and didnt come out to size I did take paint and enlarge it some but it was off then. Hmmmm any help guys?
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#50756 - 10/19/04 02:11 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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I just got my sidemarkers and was wondering how these things stay in place?? is it just the clips on the sidemarker that holds them secure? so when i cut the hole and put the sidemarker in....will it just clip in and hold onto the fender? thanks guys.
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#50757 - 10/19/04 06:34 PM Re: Trixiem & SiToeKnee's Sidemarker How-To *56k warning*
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I just got my sidemarkers and was wondering how these things stay in place?? is it just the clips on the sidemarker that holds them secure? so when i cut the hole and put the sidemarker in....will it just clip in and hold onto the fender? thanks guys.




pretty much, that is why the hole you cut needs to be very exact so that the sidemarker holds to the fender securely.
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