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#3927035 - 07/23/09 11:36 AM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: progressi]
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 Originally Posted By: progressi
Good for you Pat,funny you mention bots,you're like the irritated argument causing bot that can never let anything go.


You mean like above where I showed you that the person who actually brought the BMWs up in the first place was... you? Now you're going to fly off on a tangent to discredit anything I've actually said, without focusing on the actual discussion at hand, aren't you? I'll keep reading...

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Good job at the name calling,very childish. Oh well,you didnt get your way so you took the low road and threw a tantrum. I dont know what your problem's been but it's getting worse. You have pretty much nothing to offer this site any more except to be irritable and overly defensive. Look for new enemies elsewhere Pat,Im done with you.


Ah, yep. Just as I thought! Pathetic.
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#3928076 - 07/23/09 03:56 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: PatB18C]
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Some things never change \:\)
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#3928114 - 07/23/09 04:04 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: hustler]
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No shit... ;\)
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#3928287 - 07/23/09 04:47 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: PatB18C]
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ahhhhh... pat arguments are always oh-so amusing

first there's the passive-aggressive trolling, then he throws a tantrum, and finally, when the other person is rolling their eyes about how he's an idiot, pat busts out some ad-hominem attacks

if the argument did keep going, he'd be doing his "you don't know me, i'm not really like this in real life and i'm just doing this for my amusement" schtick right now

just leave him alone guys... if he gets any more sensitive, his water might break
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#3929905 - 07/24/09 07:22 AM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: interpol]
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Yeah thanks for weighing in on this *yawn*
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#3931058 - 07/24/09 01:29 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: PatB18C]
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cool story

and bright eyes still sucks... i never get tired of pointing that out


Edited by interpol (07/24/09 01:41 PM)
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#3931343 - 07/24/09 02:34 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: interpol]
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I hate to agree with interpol. God Damnnit.
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#3931362 - 07/24/09 02:40 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: Adam7]
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about bright eyes suckin or about pat being completely useless to this forum?
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#3931429 - 07/24/09 03:04 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: interpol]
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You'll be happy to know the next Bright Eyes album is the last. \:\(

On the rest of it, just shut up.
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#3931630 - 07/24/09 04:16 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: PatB18C]
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yeah but since he's got 10 shitty side projects going, the end of bright eyes is a mediocre consolation prize... i wish all these musical "geniuses" would stop being so prolific

bearded dudes in knit sweaters may be getting all amped on this monsters of folk bullshit but it's not for me
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#3931765 - 07/24/09 05:49 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: interpol]
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Dew not want to read the last 30 or so posts.

Saw a new camaro today again, this time in black. It rides a little high and could be 1" or 1.25" lower but hell, its a OEM car. That is my ONLY complaint, they look good and seem to perform well. The acceleration is proper and from what I've read the braking is more than proper (how does stopping faster than an evo IX sound!!!!). GM built the right car at the wrong time though. People aren't in a spendy mood at the moment and this will ruin the sales of what seems like an excellent performance and style car for the dollar.

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#3931799 - 07/24/09 06:11 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: danl]
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back to the topic at hand... they are great cars, even the v6 models

i would rock one in a heartbeat

challenger still looks better
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#3931809 - 07/24/09 06:17 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: PatB18C]
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 Originally Posted By: PatB18C


135i gives you all of that, in a smaller/lighter package.


For *only* $10,000 more.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/chevrolet/camaro/ss_coupe/1477/cost_of_ownership/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2009/bmw/1_series/135i_convertible/2975/cost_of_ownership/index.html

 Originally Posted By: interpol
back to the topic at hand... they are great cars, even the v6 models

i would rock one in a heartbeat


Test drove the V6 a few weeks back. Surprised on how well it handled for a 3700 lb car.


Edited by Design (07/24/09 06:22 PM)
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#3935238 - 07/26/09 06:12 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: Design]
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LS1's never trapped that high stock, 104-105 was accurate.

I saw the new Camaros today at a car show. Their material quality is 100 times better than my car. I mean, LS1s had horrible fit and finish. You can remove panels and dash board pieces with your fingers!

Having said that, I have a hard time paying 40+k for these cars.
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#3935460 - 07/26/09 08:14 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: balbi]
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 Originally Posted By: balbi
LS1's never trapped that high stock, 104-105 was accurate.



I went 108 bone stock, my friend Clay went 108 stock, my Dads went 107 stock, My friend paul went 110 with a LID on his Ram Air Formula, and my friend james went 110 with his Bone stock Ta with a factory Blackwing intake. They hit 107-108 regularly (I have seen Dog slow automatics and shitty drivers though). I am not that impressed with the new car, 100hp should equate to 111-114 traps, so far I am not seeing it. Its pig heavy, and after driving my boss's fat pig SRT8 challenger I am happy I put my 40K into my old car, and am saving for a Z28. It needs that blower, These cars a massive.
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#3936742 - 07/27/09 11:28 AM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: Design]
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Whoa, the 135i CONVERTIBLE costs more than the Camaro SS COUPE?!

*shock*

did you think no one would notice?
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#3937390 - 07/27/09 02:59 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: PatB18C]
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 Originally Posted By: PatB18C


Whoa, the 135i CONVERTIBLE costs more than the Camaro SS COUPE?!

*shock*

did you think no one would notice?


You're right Pat. Cost of ownership MUST be cheaper for the coupe. Hmmm.... let's see...





*drumroll*





For "only" $10,000 more.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2009/bmw/1_series/135i_coupe/2987/cost_of_ownership/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2010/chevrolet/camaro/ss_coupe/1477/cost_of_ownership/index.html

\:D


Edited by Design (07/27/09 03:06 PM)
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#3937453 - 07/27/09 03:12 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: balbi]
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 Originally Posted By: balbi
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Having said that, I have a hard time paying 40+k for these cars.


I thought a loaded 2SS was in the 36k neighborhood?
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#3937523 - 07/27/09 03:27 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: Design]
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Interesting that the cost of ownership for coupe and convertible is nearly the same.

I'd still take the BMW, $2000/year isn't going to make that decision for me... particularly when the Camaro is $750/year more expensive to insure.
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#3937688 - 07/27/09 04:08 PM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: PatB18C]
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#3952085 - 08/02/09 12:06 AM Re: New Camaro's are Slow... [Re: interpol]
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109.11 stock in my 2002 Z/28 with a 12.9. Heh thats funny I know the guy that owns that particular car.
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