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#3302602 - 12/16/08 10:35 AM leg press/squats before or after stairmaster?
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about to go to the gym...halp

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#3302627 - 12/16/08 10:39 AM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: ElementBabe]
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#3302724 - 12/16/08 10:59 AM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock
Before.


agreed.


although, I don't think I'd do squats and stairmaster in the same day.
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#3302735 - 12/16/08 11:02 AM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: LuckyRVA]
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Always do your lifting before any cardio.
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#3302951 - 12/16/08 11:37 AM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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 Originally Posted By: Lewis
Always do your lifting before any cardio.


What's the reason behind this? I'm not doubting you, I am genuinely curious.
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#3303744 - 12/16/08 03:12 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Serendipitous]
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 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
 Originally Posted By: Lewis
Always do your lifting before any cardio.


What's the reason behind this? I'm not doubting you, I am genuinely curious.

Because you'll be worn out from the cardio and won't have as much energy (depending on how hard you go) and you won't be able to lift as hard.

As runforme Said-doing cardio after a leg day in general basically sucks, I usually do it after an upper body day.
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#3303782 - 12/16/08 03:24 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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 Originally Posted By: Lewis
 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
 Originally Posted By: Lewis
Always do your lifting before any cardio.


What's the reason behind this? I'm not doubting you, I am genuinely curious.

Because you'll be worn out from the cardio and won't have as much energy (depending on how hard you go) and you won't be able to lift as hard.

As runforme Said-doing cardio after a leg day in general basically sucks, I usually do it after an upper body day.


Pansy. I do it every day \:\)
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#3303793 - 12/16/08 03:26 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Silock]
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#3303890 - 12/16/08 03:54 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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LIES

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#3303975 - 12/16/08 04:20 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock
LIES

Soccer is gay, and therefore, easy.

You do made a good point.
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#3304643 - 12/16/08 05:59 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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Wouldn't the inverse be true as well?
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#3304884 - 12/16/08 07:30 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Serendipitous]
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Lewis is easy, and therefore, gay? Makes sense to me.
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#3304889 - 12/16/08 07:35 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Serendipitous]
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 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
Wouldn't the inverse be true as well?

Not so much for me or from most of the accounts I've read, but hell whatever works for you works for you man.

Give this a read...
http://www.mensworkoutguide.com/fitness_articles.html/interval_training.html

"Warning: Do not perform interval training before resistance training. It can actually cause a negative effect on your routine. "

I know that if run really hard on the treadmill I just can't do much at the gym-because I'm burning myself out..if I lift first then run, I usually find I have enough energy.
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#3304929 - 12/16/08 07:52 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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I'm gonna have to agree with Lewis on this one. Aside from a 5-10 warm-up on the bike/treadmill/elliptical to get my blood flowing and my heart pumping, I like to always go to my lifts with a full gas tank. If I did 30 minutes on a treadmill and then went to squats I would probably be lifting half as much as I could if I did it the other way around. Although I don't think I've ever done more than 10 minutes on a treadmill lol.
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#3304972 - 12/16/08 08:12 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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Good read, thanks for the link. It sounds like I should start mixing in some interval training into my cardio routine.

Who else here has an interval training routine?
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#3305164 - 12/16/08 09:16 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Serendipitous]
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 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
Good read, thanks for the link. It sounds like I should start mixing in some interval training into my cardio routine.

Who else here has an interval training routine?


I interval train every cardio session.
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#3305413 - 12/16/08 10:23 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Silock]
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 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
Good read, thanks for the link. It sounds like I should start mixing in some interval training into my cardio routine.

Who else here has an interval training routine?


I interval train every cardio session.

I run Interval Trains on that ass.
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#3305544 - 12/16/08 11:24 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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as mentioned interval cardio can have an effect on your lifts....but not always.

and if you are just out for some lower heart rate cardio it wont be that much of a big deal doing it beforehand....but it really depends on what you are doing.
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#3307762 - 12/17/08 05:30 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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So a 30 minute sprint then jog run, has no effect on your lifts?
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#3307775 - 12/17/08 05:34 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Lewis]
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30 minute sprint?

I said it can, but not always ...it depends. Ive done plenty of cardio incl sprints and then lifted afterwards just fine. if you are fueled enough and in decent enough shape you can manage it.
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#3308334 - 12/17/08 09:14 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Hmm. Seems like good advice. got pics?

cheers,
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#3308601 - 12/17/08 11:38 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
30 minute sprint?

I said it can, but not always ...it depends. Ive done plenty of cardio incl sprints and then lifted afterwards just fine. if you are fueled enough and in decent enough shape you can manage it.


Definitely. I used to do all my lifting after spinning classes. Was more convenient for me then. I was tired, for sure, but it's not really that big of a deal. That being said, I'd have preferred to do it before.
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#3309189 - 12/18/08 08:22 AM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: scootergeek]
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 Originally Posted By: scootergeek
Hmm. Seems like good advice. got pics?

cheers,
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#3310654 - 12/18/08 02:58 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: ]
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I guess silock and I are super human
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#3310773 - 12/18/08 03:26 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
I guess silock and I are super human


Possibly. See my last post.

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#3311001 - 12/18/08 04:12 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: ]
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30 minute sprint?

I said it can, but not always ...it depends. Ive done plenty of cardio incl sprints and then lifted afterwards just fine. if you are fueled enough and in decent enough shape you can manage it.


i don't care who you are. if you do 30 minutes of cardio at an intensity proportionate to the shape you're in then your lifting will be affected afterwards.


I see what you're saying, and I think you're right, but I do not believe the impact is as huge as some people believe. For me, by the time I cooled down sufficiently from cardio and started my lifting, my heart rate was nearly completely recovered.

I don't think affected my development at all:
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#3311014 - 12/18/08 04:15 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Silock]
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bullshit. that guy doesnt play soccer

*swoooooon*

and you made great points. no one is going to go do some crazy cardio bout and instantly hit the weights. youll warm down a bit, have to go get changed(maybe) etc, sure you might be a bit tired but youll be ready for weights no problem......

....though im thinking you and me are the only ones who do any kind of lengthy cardio...
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#3311161 - 12/18/08 04:49 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Yeah, I could see where if you struggle to run 2-3 miles, then you'd probably be dead tired and your lifts will suffer. If you're in good enough shape where you can play a full 90 minute soccer game or swim a lot and be tired, but not dead afterward -- well, there's a big difference between that and someone that can't do much cardio at all.
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#3311303 - 12/18/08 05:35 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: scootergeek]
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#3311331 - 12/18/08 05:42 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Wait a minute, last month that was Johnso. What's going on here?!?!?

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#3311634 - 12/18/08 07:20 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: scootergeek]
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 Originally Posted By: scootergeek
Hmm. Seems like good advice. got pics?

cheers,
scott

perfect example..nicely done man.
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#3311855 - 12/18/08 08:09 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: runfromme
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
30 minute sprint?

I said it can, but not always ...it depends. Ive done plenty of cardio incl sprints and then lifted afterwards just fine. if you are fueled enough and in decent enough shape you can manage it.


i don't care who you are. if you do 30 minutes of cardio at an intensity proportionate to the shape you're in then your lifting will be affected afterwards.


I see what you're saying, and I think you're right, but I do not believe the impact is as huge as some people believe. For me, by the time I cooled down sufficiently from cardio and started my lifting, my heart rate was nearly completely recovered.

I don't think affected my development at all:



you can do whatever you want. i used to run to the gym, workout, run home. i found that my lifts suffered as a result so i started doing my cardio in the gym after my workout. i am able to have just as hard a cardio session if i do it before or after lifting. i am not able to do the inverse. all things being equal, if you're going to be doing both anyway why would you not want to lift first?


I do lift first right now, because my schedule allows it. I'm just saying that I didn't find it to be a hinderance to progress to lift afterward.
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#3312713 - 12/19/08 01:53 AM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Silock]
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ive done it both ways.

If I came right out of something high intensity and went to lift...than ya itll be not as good...but no one does that. theres warm down/time between the cardio and lifting. the body recovers and lifts jsut fine.

if for whatever reason muscle glycogen stores get really depleted(which can and does happen, it all depends) than ya that will negatively effect your lifting.


but typically everything is fine.
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#8779834 - 09/02/16 12:09 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#8780020 - 09/02/16 02:32 PM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: ElementBabe]
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This is an old ass thread.
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#8781234 - 09/05/16 09:54 AM Re: leg press/squats before or after stairmaster? [Re: Silock]
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it got bumped, but i guess by a spam bot
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