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#2662596 - 05/22/08 04:18 PM B16a2 Turbo questions
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Ok, so I scrapped my original plan of the poor mans type R for my '00 si. Now I am going turbo. I am going to freshen up the motor a tad before I do so. It isn't going to be anything extreme, just a stock motor on 6psi. I am going to do piston rings, rod bearings, rod bolts, head studs, head gasket. What brands are the most trusted?

The list I have so far.

Piston Rings----Total seal
Head studs------Arp
rod bolts-------new stock honda pieces
rod bearings----clevite
head gasket-----???
oil pan gasket--stock replacement from local parts store.

Also I plan on getting the pan tapped for the oil return line. I am going to use and oil sandwich adapter for the feed line. Anything else I am forgetting, or should try and do while doing this? The motor is not coming out of the car for this, it will all be done while in it.
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#2662613 - 05/22/08 04:22 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: Mattkc]
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fuck those gay pos total seal rings
get some ARP rod bolts
OEM headgasket
Honda bearings or ACL if your clearances are good.


Edited by mastrcobb (05/22/08 04:23 PM)
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#2665466 - 05/23/08 01:15 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: mastrcobb]
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What piston rings should I use then?
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#2665817 - 05/23/08 02:42 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: Mattkc]
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oem
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#2666300 - 05/23/08 05:30 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: cua0]
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Are OEM rings good for a turbo app?
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#2666798 - 05/23/08 10:35 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: Mattkc]
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 Originally Posted By: Mattkc
Are OEM rings good for a turbo app?


What I am using.

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#2667187 - 05/24/08 05:50 AM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Dude, if you are tearing the motor apart for a reseal and new bearings, throw some freakin forged pistons (and rods if you want to spend the money) in there. The extra cost will be marginal compared to what you're already spending in parts labor and machine work.
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#2735790 - 06/16/08 06:38 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SamuraiSam]
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 Originally Posted By: SamuraiSam
Dude, if you are tearing the motor apart for a reseal and new bearings, throw some freakin forged pistons (and rods if you want to spend the money) in there. The extra cost will be marginal compared to what you're already spending in parts labor and machine work.


What he said.....Don't be cheap..... You will wish you would have if you dont.


Edited by drpoopmanchu (06/16/08 06:42 PM)
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#3111773 - 10/14/08 01:14 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: drpoopmanchu]
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Or just leave car as is, and save up for an M3 or Evo or such.

Sorry, my car's been in the shop for a month on its... probably 5th rebuild.

Stock Motor JRSC 6psi (I really should have just quit here) \:\)
Shoddy built motor/turbo build courtesy Dr. Charles in Atomic days now closed.
Okay built motor/giant turbo with Import Builders now closed. $15k+
Back to stock motor and smaller turbo through a friend ~ $3.5k
Motor let go, got a rebuilt motor and cleaned up harness (Group5) ~$3.5k
Rings die, valve seals cracked, turbo dies.(Group5) ~4-5k+?

When the turbo died we basically redid the head, and they're yoinking the bottom end out now. Hopefully car stops burning fresh oil.

I think that's about $27k on motor stuff altogether. Yeah. Shoulda bought an M3 \:\)
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#3111840 - 10/14/08 01:32 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: Kebs99Si]
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lol...live and learn.

I had ~5k in the civic making 450whp for over 3+yrs before it was sold.

Only built once, by me, first ever engine build.
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#3172307 - 11/03/08 10:06 AM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Total Seals are awful, stay away from them. OEM is fine.
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#3247552 - 11/27/08 02:18 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SiAdam]
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 Originally Posted By: SiAdam
lol...live and learn.

I had ~5k in the civic making 450whp for over 3+yrs before it was sold.

Only built once, by me, first ever engine build.




Only $5K to make 450 whp in a Civic? That's freakin' impressive, even with all free labor.
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#3248070 - 11/27/08 08:02 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SiVicious]
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lol...live and learn.

I had ~5k in the civic making 450whp for over 3+yrs before it was sold.

Only built once, by me, first ever engine build.




Only $5K to make 450 whp in a Civic? That's freakin' impressive, even with all free labor.


I'm including the cost of my c/f hood and other misc stuff as well.
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#3250246 - 11/28/08 06:21 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SiAdam]
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 Originally Posted By: SiAdam


I'm including the cost of my c/f hood and other misc stuff as well.




Sheesh. I have more than $5K into my SRT-4, and I'm nowhere near 450 whp... and it's relatively easy to build up the Neon since it's already built for turbo. Heck, I spent $4K just for the Stage 3 turbo kit. Never had the guts or wallet to go turbo when I had the '99 Si.

Did you ever run it in the quarter mile?
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#3250528 - 11/28/08 09:05 PM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SiVicious]
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 Originally Posted By: SiAdam


I'm including the cost of my c/f hood and other misc stuff as well.




Sheesh. I have more than $5K into my SRT-4, and I'm nowhere near 450 whp... and it's relatively easy to build up the Neon since it's already built for turbo. Heck, I spent $4K just for the Stage 3 turbo kit. Never had the guts or wallet to go turbo when I had the '99 Si.

Did you ever run it in the quarter mile?


I was never able, but when I sold it to my cousin he made it deep into the 11's on a few passes. I still think with some more boost and traction it would have done it.

He made over 500whp on my setup before he tore it down to build it crazy pants.

I just looked for the right parts @ the right prices.

My manifold was $300, my turbo was brand new $500 and so on.

Thats the 2 biggest parts, well that and the Hondata which was $600.

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#3251049 - 11/29/08 08:18 AM Re: B16a2 Turbo questions [Re: SiAdam]
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Yeah, I figured it had to be deep in the 11's, or close to a 10 second ET with good traction. I should be able to run 12 flat or a high 11 once I re-learn how to drive it with Stage 3. Traction owns me.

Are you going to boost the S2K?
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