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#2568081 - 04/22/08 05:30 PM the first evo X into the 11's
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And I'm so glad its not david buschur or his ass eater al. I still don't like the evo X, that is all........(trap is weak BTW).


http://videos.streetfire.net/video/EVO-X_157769.htm
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#2568090 - 04/22/08 05:33 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: danl]
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hater.
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#2568117 - 04/22/08 05:39 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: jsmonet]
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Not too shabby ,doesn t seem to pull to hard at the end,gears seem fiarly short aswell .They shorter then previous version evos? or Same?
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#2568242 - 04/22/08 06:04 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: PsychoEBPSiR]
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Why don't you like that burschur guy again? I thought he was fairly well respected, no?
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#2568533 - 04/22/08 07:31 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: NOT spotch...]
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Because the past couple years he's been acting like a fuck face faggot. Pretty much ever since he hasn't been top dog in mitsu performance he's been acting like a child, throwing hissy fits, and making excuses as to why he won't race someone, why they aren't allowed to come to his DSM/EVO Shootout, why their parts suck more than his, and why his motors are the best in the world.......
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“ the only people that care about this aren't car people anyway. we don't consider EVs for anything other than point to point transportation like a bus or a plane. do you care how fast your plane can taxi down the runway?

the dodge is a drag strip monster, and a hell of a good one at that.”
-Rex B16, June 11 2024

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#2568727 - 04/22/08 08:12 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: danl]
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al is still into evos? i remember his retarded posts on nasioc when he was on sti nuts lol
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#2568938 - 04/22/08 09:15 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: danl]
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 Originally Posted By: danl
Because the past couple years he's been acting like a fuck face faggot. Pretty much ever since he hasn't been top dog in mitsu performance he's been acting like a child, throwing hissy fits, and making excuses as to why he won't race someone, why they aren't allowed to come to his DSM/EVO Shootout, why their parts suck more than his, and why his motors are the best in the world.......



From the sound of it a gay person might be pissed buschur with them lol.

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#2570046 - 04/23/08 06:47 AM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: interpol]
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 Originally Posted By: interpol
al is still into evos? i remember his retarded posts on nasioc when he was on sti nuts lol

That guy seems like a tool. Isn't he famous for shitty/lean tunes on more than a few EVO's lol kaboom
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#2572245 - 04/23/08 03:58 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: FCobra94]
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Not lean, rich, then he pastes a bunch of 8's into the timing map and cranks the timing WAYYYYY to high 6000rpm's on.
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the dodge is a drag strip monster, and a hell of a good one at that.”
-Rex B16, June 11 2024

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#2572456 - 04/23/08 04:46 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: danl]
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the look of the evo X grows more and more everytime I see one. saw one at the dealer and it was nice...
way to fucking expensive up here though
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#2572484 - 04/23/08 04:51 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Way too fucking expensive everywhere. The evo 9 was a stretch. Mitsu is pricing themselves out of the market.
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the dodge is a drag strip monster, and a hell of a good one at that.”
-Rex B16, June 11 2024

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#2572579 - 04/23/08 05:25 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: danl]
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My MR stickered for $37k
The new GSR is around $34k

I think the price is decent from year to year but you aren't getting much in the way of dash molesting...maybe a little more with the X.

Danl do you like AMS more than Buschur? I see what you are saying about Buschur, ETS and a few others have posted 400+whp stock turbo evo's (all with piston work) and he has to post his "this is the highest ive seen on my dyno and is smooth as butter" stock turbo ix
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#2572611 - 04/23/08 05:35 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: OnyxEros]
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Correction ETS has made 506whp on E85 and the stock turbo.

AMS are cool guys, never really mingled with them (except the internets) but at the shootout the seemed professional (I don't like to bother people when they are racing asking fanboi questions etc...). David however is very cocky. He blew me off at Maple Grove years ago as I was complimenting him on his car (the 2g RWD talon). At the shootout he was very short with me after asking him a legality question about one of the classes I race in (Diamond Star Eliminator). That and his internet drama and how he as treated some of my friends on a personal level make him think less of him.

He still makes badass parts, I will never deny that, but he's pretty much an asshole (kinda like I come off most of the time).
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“ the only people that care about this aren't car people anyway. we don't consider EVs for anything other than point to point transportation like a bus or a plane. do you care how fast your plane can taxi down the runway?

the dodge is a drag strip monster, and a hell of a good one at that.”
-Rex B16, June 11 2024

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#2574388 - 04/24/08 03:58 AM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: danl]
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 Originally Posted By: danl
Not lean, rich, then he pastes a bunch of 8's into the timing map and cranks the timing WAYYYYY to high 6000rpm's on.


I had a few friends in Vegas who went out to Cali to get tuned by Al. Biggest mistake ever. Those guys actually made less power and were still running rich as hell. Took my buddy like 8 months for Al to come out and fix his tune. Al said his wideband had a bad sensor making it seem like the car was leaning out when in reality it wasn't. Fuck that guy.
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#2574418 - 04/24/08 05:39 AM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: sarge]
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Yeah so he runs the cars too rich. On top of that he runs wayyyy too much timing when boost hits and the car immediately starts detonating. The ecu is like what the fuck!!!! and then pulls a ton of timing. Since the car is pulling massive timing he cranks the timing even MORE up top to force the car to perform.

I can typically take a car he has tuned and make it feel much smoother (because the car isn't pulling timing, you get a notchy feeling when it is doing ths), it will be more consistent (because on an al tune the car knocks all the time and performs different each time), and it will be faster (because I can overall run MORE timing because I don't force the car to perform, so it doesen't pull timing, and theirfore the ecu gives the car full timing advance).

I've had to redo a few of his cars allready.
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“ the only people that care about this aren't car people anyway. we don't consider EVs for anything other than point to point transportation like a bus or a plane. do you care how fast your plane can taxi down the runway?

the dodge is a drag strip monster, and a hell of a good one at that.”
-Rex B16, June 11 2024

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#2575833 - 04/24/08 01:19 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: danl]
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Hate to threadjack-but at these power levels the Evo X has poor trapspeeds for it's ET because it's got really aggressive gearing,and this means you either ride the limiter or you're in 5th gear through the traps. I didnt watch the video,but IIRC these guys posted that they went for 5th instead of banging the limiter all the way through.

It appears the 8s and 9s will be better for drag racing.

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#2576028 - 04/24/08 01:55 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: progressi]
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What about the DSG versions? Strong enough? How good is the clutch etc?
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#2576226 - 04/24/08 02:43 PM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: Impulsive]
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 Originally Posted By: Impulsive
What about the DSG versions? Strong enough? How good is the clutch etc?

No one knows yet. Just a ton of rice boie speculation over on EVOm.

I'm interested in seeing how it holds up to bolt-ons, etc. though...
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#2578149 - 04/25/08 01:04 AM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: Impulsive]
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What about the DSG versions? Strong enough? How good is the clutch etc?
Its been rated to handle bolt-ons and a re-tune on the ECU. This is according to a guy that spoke with engineers at the Cypress,CA facility. He had pics of the MRs and the Ralliarts to back it up.

The FQ guys in UK have already started doing durability testing on an FQ360 version-they say it's doing well. I believe that article was in Evo mag.

Im betting the manual trans will be stronger. The SST trans has failsafe modes to prevent failure though,FWIW.

The Ralliart seems really cool. Same 4B11 with MIVEC on both cams,smaller turbo (probably the biggest bummer),lighter,still has ACD and SAWC,but no AYC (bummer),and cheaper. It's going to still have a front-mount,and the big hood with the vents and ducts. It should be alot cheaper too.

Edit: it could be ricer speculation. \:\)


Edited by progressi (04/25/08 01:05 AM)

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#2578567 - 04/25/08 08:46 AM Re: the first evo X into the 11's [Re: progressi]
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A buddy of mine despite my best judgement went to have his evo tuned by them.

I could list all the problems, but overall when he got it back, after a hefty bill, it would barely start.

Ran pig rich ALL the time.

We had it retuned @ my dyno, and when we saw the map, my jaw dropped.

Everything above his rev limit were fucking ZERO'S.

Cleaned the map, and he made another 30whp.

Started normal again, and it drove alot smoother as well.

I have no respect for them, as well as some other items they screwed him on.

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