All the prices have been up since Covid....when I was looking for a family mover, a new Sienna is $70k so I ended up with a 2019 Sienna that was $3k less than what the owner paid. Trucks are stupid expensive.
Considering the rate environment and that we are in a recession, maybe pop in one and low ball the shit out of them on a Tuesday at the end of the month and see if you can get a good deal.
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