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#10661467 - 01/09/25 11:31 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
I gotta renew in May, I'm still thinking variable.


i think the next 3 announcements before then will tell us a lot.
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#10661633 - 01/09/25 05:37 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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True. Let's see what happens.
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#10661668 - 01/09/25 07:27 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
I gotta renew in May, I'm still thinking variable.


Variable.

You should be able to get -0.9 to -1.0 on uninsured as of today. Makes zero sense to go fixed. Economy only getting shittier with each month lol
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#10680562 - 03/09/25 06:47 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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$460k loss. Sold.

https://x.com/shazigoalie/status/1898452993881567727?s=46&t=yvRxcjSrq9J-qBrK0dI17A

 Originally Posted By: furball
This isn’t going to sell well, ever.

Two bodies One Body + 1 injured found last night, all over CP24.

https://youtu.be/FHv9c19LLBo?feature=shared

Lease listing immediately cancelled yesterday as well. HouseSigma
https://housesigma.com/on/brampton-real-...medium=iOS&ign=

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#10680563 - 03/09/25 07:00 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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Nailed it

~22% loss

Given how bad the market is, 25% would've been more appropriate.

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
What happened? Murder houses sell, just needs time and typically a 20% haircut, but they move no issue as long as priced accordingly.

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#10680643 - 03/09/25 04:59 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business]
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Apparently at least one of those listed had utilities cut off.

https://x.com/shazigoalie/status/1898560871527338357?s=46&t=yvRxcjSrq9J-qBrK0dI17A

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#10680676 - 03/09/25 09:50 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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Are we ever going to get back to the $350 / sq ft condos? \:D
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#10680696 - Yesterday at 06:43 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Will probably bottom out at 800 psf for good stock in the core for resale. At that price and rent things start to cashflow. Precon is dead though, always thought it was just a matter of time before people catch on. How can someone pay $1,600 PSF when comparable resale is 1,100 (this was during the peak). Now resale is in the 900s, precon launches at 1,300 psf can't get off the ground. RIP
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#10680732 - Yesterday at 09:31 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business]
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My buddy works in land development. Their clients that had plans to build residential are now pivoting to rentals...
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#10680756 - Yesterday at 10:07 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Hatorade]
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Yep, seems like purpose built rentals are the only builds getting financing so it's the only choice.
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#10680924 - Yesterday at 03:58 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Will probably bottom out at 800 psf for good stock in the core for resale. At that price and rent things start to cashflow. Precon is dead though, always thought it was just a matter of time before people catch on. How can someone pay $1,600 PSF when comparable resale is 1,100 (this was during the peak). Now resale is in the 900s, precon launches at 1,300 psf can't get off the ground. RIP


The days of buying a condo to rent out and having the value appreciate is over.

Would be nice to have a property paid for when the kids are older but don't think the math works anymore.

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#10681133 - Today at 10:37 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Risky Business]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Yep, seems like purpose built rentals are the only builds getting financing so it's the only choice.


Yup for those companies that cannot tie up capital, this is their only choice.
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#10681135 - Today at 10:44 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Will probably bottom out at 800 psf for good stock in the core for resale. At that price and rent things start to cashflow. Precon is dead though, always thought it was just a matter of time before people catch on. How can someone pay $1,600 PSF when comparable resale is 1,100 (this was during the peak). Now resale is in the 900s, precon launches at 1,300 psf can't get off the ground. RIP


The days of buying a condo to rent out and having the value appreciate is over.

Would be nice to have a property paid for when the kids are older but don't think the math works anymore.


Don't worry. May happen again once BOC is down to 2% and condo supply is even higher. 65% of current listings on MLS are condos LOL

But the underlying problem is the maint. fees. Those have skyrocketed in the past few years and will continue.
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#10681139 - Today at 10:52 AM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Hatorade]
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I drove around Major Mack in Markham over the wkend ....

Looks like there's movement on the north side of Major Mack ... things are being built?

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#10681191 - Today at 12:15 PM Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: furball]
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I drove around Major Mack in Markham over the wkend ....

Looks like there's movement on the north side of Major Mack ... things are being built?


That has been happening since covid.
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#10681236 - 46 minutes 26 seconds ago Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Hatorade]
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 Originally Posted By: Hatorade


But the underlying problem is the maint. fees. Those have skyrocketed in the past few years and will continue.


any insight on why? and what (if any) solutions are being put in place to bring them down?
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#10681239 - 38 minutes 28 seconds ago Re: dat real estate v.2021 [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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Inflation
Deferred Maintenance during Covid
Investor dominated condo boards that deferred fees until they sold their units
Massive budget misses on replacement at scale, be it risers, glass, etc. An unnamed condo downtown budgeted 20M to replace all glass (full glass tower), actual quotes came in at 60M.

I am interviewing Sally Thompson on my Youtube channel specifically about this, she is one of the engineers behind the Condo Act. It's a fucking shitshow, if you are buying a condo you better know what you are doing and know the buildings because there are some massive dogs.

I've been pretty vocal about this since 2021, there will be a huge repricing of condos in the coming years (it's already starting). You will have units trading at way below median prices and it's because they will be bogged down with these issues, and nobody wants to take on the risk. Couple that with lenders becoming more strict, some banks won't lend on condos if they find the status certificates too mismanaged/at risk.

There is a list of black listed CMHC buildings, those were the no go buildings, but looks like lenders are already looking outside of that. I had a client recently walk away from a very nice unit in a solid building over a small lawsuit (immaterial to fees) where BMO wouldn't fund.

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