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07/08/14 05:35 PM
Doing a century as a novice

So, how long would it take a novice cyclist doing 40-50 miles a week(in 5-8 mile spurts) to get ready to ride a century?

How slow should they expect to do a century?

Said century has about 3-4k of vert.

stickaz_old
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07/08/14 05:46 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

wat dat 1990 mtbike [on knobbies] do doe?

*in for responses. I think I'd stagger off the bike around mile 70 and not get up, have no idea what would happen. If I were revived somehow I think I'd stagger off and try to flag a passing motorist

a 50-something co-worker of mine just did 2.5 centuries in a 24 hr period. I really don't know how to comprehend that [charity thing]. We went on a ride together couple weeks ago and he dropped me relentlessly [shocker]

for real tho I plan on doing a metric century first for some reason, then will re-evaluate. I assume I can hold 17-ish mph for that /blindly guessing /oldfatslow

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07/08/14 05:52 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Haha, I'm not on nobbies. Only because the windnoise got old. \:\|

Seriously tho, new bike would be involved.

I've done 50-60 on the current mtn bike(on nobbies) on road before, but I was about 1/2 my current age.

I mentioned wanting to ride to "the mountain" one day as a goal. He laughed, but then the gauntlet was thrown down. The current challenge. 1yrs time, any bike, 12 hours(i'm lobbying for 14 for lunch, flats, beers).

I make it, I get 5 growlers of beer, 5 sandwiches from food cart.(working on recruiting other coworkers into the kitty)
I lose, $100 to charity, and I shave my head.

/things portlanders do.

stickaz_old
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07/08/14 06:16 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

12? pshh. that includes plenty of time for flats and beers. Really the chase-van should clear you out after 8ish hrs [jmho]

*have not stayed at a holiday inn recently

with a 60-minute break, you're looking at averaging 14 mph. comeonson.jpg

of course, I'd probably die so don't look at me. I could right to SF [and back!] and still have to find a ~10 mile loop or something to do a century near me \:\|

**I basically guarantee that would be a 1-way trip and involve Caltrain on the return heh

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07/08/14 06:25 PM
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My issue is the 4k of vert. It's up a god damn mountain.

The way back is mtn road, fun, with a super wide shoulder but there's lots of sand from the winter on the shoulder. From what I've read it's hard to crack 20 downhill due to surface conditions. Or you take the lane, but you'll want to be pushing 40(which is doable with the steepness in stretches, but never a walk in the park).

robbbby
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07/08/14 06:26 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
So, how long would it take a novice cyclist doing 40-50 miles a week(in 5-8 mile spurts) to get ready to ride a century?

How slow should they expect to do a century?

Said century has about 3-4k of vert.


How long it takes to get ready depends on how you train from now to when you want to do the ride.
If you keep doing 5-8 miles rides 5x-6x times a week you will never be ready, you need to keep increasing the mileage until you are comfortable doing a 3+ hour ride at a minimum in my opinion.

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07/08/14 06:28 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

3 hours, ok, sounds like I'm not going to do a 1/2 this year.

SO I'll replace my long slow runs with a cycle on SUndays. Sub out a few of those short commutes with run commutes.

Say 1 long ride SUnday, upto 3-4 hours.
1 lunch ride a week, say 40 minutes?
8 5-8 miles commutes(which I can do some nice intervals on)

stickaz_old
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07/08/14 06:34 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I prefer to get my 'long rides' in on a mtbike on some sweet singletrack loops. tucked in the aerobars going in a straight line for hours and hours is pretty much fail


*comeatmespandexers

robbbby
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07/08/14 06:35 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Why do you want to do a century?
Rather than aiming big, shoot for smaller distances and increase it every week. Do your regular riding during the week and set a goal for something like 20 miles on your big ride day (saurday). The following saturday go for 25, then 30, etc. It will help your body get used to the longer distances and longer times in the saddle, I think you'll benefit more with small weekly steps.

robbbby
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07/08/14 06:37 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: Something Witty
I prefer to get my 'long rides' in on a mtbike on some sweet singletrack loops. tucked in the aerobars going in a straight line for hours and hours is pretty much fail


*comeatmespandexers


I'm a spandexer and I totally agree. I do my 1-2 hour weekly rides on the road and on the weekend go find some sweet singletrack to do my 3+ hour rides on.

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07/08/14 07:24 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: robbbby
Why do you want to do a century?
Rather than aiming big, shoot for smaller distances and increase it every week. Do your regular riding during the week and set a goal for something like 20 miles on your big ride day (saurday). The following saturday go for 25, then 30, etc. It will help your body get used to the longer distances and longer times in the saddle, I think you'll benefit more with small weekly steps.


Do you understand the difference between a plan and a goal?
I'm aware I need to progress to reach the goal, but most people I know start with an end goal.

If your trying to outline a plan, fine. I'm getting 16 weeks on the add 5 a week plan.


The ride I want to do is actually 110-120 miles depending on details of the route I take.

stickaz_old
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07/08/14 07:34 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

also I don't really see the ZOMG barrier in cycling like it exists in running. Eg for me moving from a 5k to a 10k now to a 1/2 marathon is a mind bottling experience. As a fat cyclist with some mileage [3k/yr or thereabotus] a 30 or a 40 or a 60 miler ride is pretty much a yawner unless I'm trying to keep up with a group or something or hold 18+ mph for the whole thing. But my daily rides are 9 each way. ZOMG nowai! also don't forget nutrition on the bike. Something like the body can take in 400-600 calories or something per hour so that means you should have more than a few GUs taped all over the place [comeatmebro I dunno read the slowtwitchforums or something or lmgtfy]

*BRB bonking. No I get it, I know it happens [bonk/die/etc]. But not to someone that is pretty fit like the OP. Like say he goes out in zone 2 and stays there like a good boy. He will make it.
Lets say he goes for zone 4 on the hill or three on that route at mile 70---he probably wont heh

If I'm not mistaken: run fitness transfers to biking MUCH quicker than the reverse. OP will be fine. Now if OP wants to be fast or compete or whatever listen to the rest of the people in this thread *and add intervals!

for a single anecdote: one of my co-workers is into tris. Really he's just into lifting [he's sort of an Art, 6'4, pretty big and all], and he's not fast at all but can be competitive in the 220+ clydesdale category. Anyways on FB recently he tried a ~50 mile ride while not having much/any conditioning recently and of course he bonked around mile 30 and had a nice time in the shade I guess [plenty of time to post on FB]. I'm not sure his training 'regimen' exactly but when I've talked to him about it he tries to get like 1 ride, 1 swim, 1 jog in a week. It might be like 5-10 miles biked [I'm not making this up], maybe a 500y in the pool, and like a 2 mile jog. This is 'in shape' to him. He's previously completed 1/2 irons and stuff so he can be pretty fast but he hasnt done much lately/no base to fall back on other than being bigger than all of us.

anyways for reference some of us are putting in ~8-ish hours of cardio/week [most people I follow on strava] and shouldnt be concerned with a century
**if you're already in shape
**if you pace yourself properly
**if you don't mind being slow as fuck

For another anecdote, my co-worker that finished 2.5 centurys in ~22 hours mentioned that his goal was to:
a) hold 15 mph on century #1 followed by bio-break/re-fuel/recharge/micronap
b) hold 14 mph on century #2 followed by bio-break/re-fuel/recharge/micronap
c) see how far he got on century #3 with whatever was left in the tank [absolutely nothing he said, and was getting wobbly]

so is that slow as fuck? hell yes. Was that pace required for him to survive? hell yes. Also there was something like ~12k vertical feet in that day for him lol. [western canada similar to the rockies]

*am I a complete dumbfuck? yes
**do I like asterisks? no

gamby
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07/08/14 10:37 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I'll give mileage number goals. 2 brisk 20 mile rides during the week and at least a 40on Saturday from here on in is as good plan to start with. The more you build your base mileage, the merrier.

The climbing will make it very difficult, though. That'll get miserable quickly.

JT
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07/08/14 10:43 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Mileage is nothing if you have free time and a positive attitude. I've seen some seriously out of shape people on some shitty bikes do sub 12-hr centuries. It's those that hit it hard at the beginning and run out of gas at mile 20 that hate life. Centuries are more mental than anything, but having some fitness and a nice bike just make the experience better.

Cheesegoggles
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07/09/14 07:30 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Without getting into the details of climbing and terrain and stuff, OP probably has the fitness to ride a bike 100 miles in 12 hours. He'll be kind of slow, but he can do it. He needs the miles ahead of time to acclimate to being on the bike for that long, i.e. getting his core and taint prepped for the trip. And working out how nutrition will work.

I've done a few MS 150 rides and all kinds of people are out there doing the rides regardless of fitness. A lot of them probably hardly got their bikes out of the garage before showing up. They are unsafe to be around and will be in a lot of pain the next day, but they have the minimum base fitness to do the ride. OP probably has that too.

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07/09/14 10:04 AM
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So barring that I could do it now(i'm pretty sure my ass actually couldn't do 40+ right now).

How long is a realistic training window to at least somewhat enjoy it?

10 weeks would put me into september when weather is cooler, but still not rainy as fuck, and the days still long.

Start at 20mile long this weekend, add 5-10 per week? Get at least one ride of about 75 under the belt?
DO at least a 10 mile Intense ride, adding 1-2 miles a week?


The climbing is between miles 25-55, it's an out and back, so I'll have a nice haul ass return. Shoot for a slow pace on teh way up, maybe 12 on the flats, 8 on the climb. On the way back enjoy gravity? (there are a few minor uphills on the way back that'll still suck)


Tell me more about the core requirements, I'm pretty sure running and squats do enough for my core.

JT
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07/09/14 11:55 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

If you can do 50 miles, you can do 100. But to train, just ride a lot. Commute to work, ride to the store/bar/etc. Get your ass used to behind in the saddle. On the weekend, shoot for 20 miles in the morning. If there's still gas in the tank, add another 10 miles. Shoot for a metric century (~62miles) by the halfway point in your training. Once that's in the bag, you can adjust training as needed. Find out what food works for you. I prefer one bottle of water and one bottle with an electrolyte like Gatorade powder or Nuun, and have a bottle down per 20-25 miles.

gamby
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07/09/14 04:26 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I think you're overthinking.

As I said, get comfortable with a couple of 20 milers during the week and then see what you can put down over the weekend in terms of a longer ride. Start with 30 and go longer each week.

Nothing will train you better than putting miles down on the bike. The squats/core will help a bit, but in the end, being on the bike will do more. The famous cycling coach Chris Carmichael has said exactly that.

FWIW, things don't start hurting until around the 60 mile mark. 50 goes by in a blur.

2000SiRacer
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07/09/14 07:10 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

*useless anecdote warning*

My little brother, who's not particularly fit or active, got into cycling last fall. And by "got into" I mean he took my mom's 17 year old steel frame hybrid bike and started riding it around. Long story short, he's done two or three "official" century rides on that old hybrid and once took off down the C&O Canal from Georgetown on his old mountain bike, had lunch in Harper's Ferry, WV then turned around and rode home. Got lost (somehow) and caught in a rain storm but still managed to make the ~130ish miles roundtrip OK.

That's really the only experience I have with 100 mile bike rides but if my brother can show up on our mom's bike in a cotton T shirt and basketball shorts and knock these out I'm sure someone who calls themselves a cyclist (novice or not) would be fine.

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07/10/14 10:39 AM
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My buddy just invited me on a 50 or 80 miler(supported ride) in 5 weeks.

Wife greenlit a new bike.

I think I'll do that first. He's leaning towards the 50 miler tho. He's assuming we'll do 13mph.

stickaz_old
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07/11/14 12:09 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

^get a TT bike, then a cyclocross, then a road bike. In that order!

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07/11/14 12:54 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: Something Witty
^get a TT bike, then a cyclocross, then a road bike. In that order!

What? Why would I want a TT bike?
I was jsut chuckling to myself about the TT bike in the bike rack at work. Like bro, do you strava? commuting on a TT, what a maroon!

The new bike will be the summer commuter(at least tu-f, when I don't need a giant pannier of crap), and for cruises, and the occasional long stupid shit.
I'm leaning Cyclocross, so I have the option of getting into that for the wet months(all 10 of em).

Plus if I get a TT, I lose my excuse for being slow. A cyclocross is still a "slow bike".

nato2377
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07/11/14 08:05 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Lol at cyclocross being a slow bike, I can ride mine on knobbies just as fast as my road bike.
You're def way overthinking things, I'm at work but I'll throw my 2 cents in when I get home. I done 7 or 8 centuries this year already and 2 100 mile mtb races

Lol at witty, your posts make me laugh. I mean, *laugh

JT
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07/11/14 08:26 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Cross bikes are a blast. They make perfect commuters and weekend warriors. TT bikes are only slightly more annoying than their owners, which really are a different breed of human.

Impulsive
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07/11/14 08:57 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I have a cyclocross. I know shit about bikes, I just ride and wanted something more durable since some of the paved trails I ride on are still pretty rough and the odd off pavement portion/curb/tree root to ride over.

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07/11/14 10:43 AM
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Sweet, love the 3 votes for a cross bike.

Yeah, being that I've never been a road biker, I think the cyclocross will give the me the benefits of a road bike without compromising what I expect a bike to be able to do.


I think I'll aim for a 25miler on the mtn bike this weekend. Maybe I'll pull the fender(dry season) off for rocket speedz!

nato2377
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07/11/14 12:22 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Doing 100 miles comes down to pacing, eating and drinking.
Obviously you have to ride a pace you can sustain for 100 miles. Easiest way to to ride in such a way that you don't cause lactic acid to build up in your muscles. If you do that you can ride all day if you stay fueled. Now for you, that might be at 13mph while someone like me who trains and rides 5000+ miles a year is more like 16. In time, training will help increase that. Ride a comfortable speed on flats and downhills, and on uphills just try to make your legs not burn as much as possible, stand occasionally to stretch the legs out. 4K over 100 miles is pretty flat IMO...thats 1000ft for every 25 miles. I just did 3300ft in 34 miles last night. take turns riding behind someone to save energy. 15mpg avg is still a sub 7 century. i might have missed it but if you are doing this on a road/cross bike, that shouldnt be too hard, especially if you train. mtb on knobbies, that will be tough

2-300 calories a hour is all you need. personally, I eat pop tarts. 1 poptart a hour is 210 calories, 7g fat, 170mg sodium, 35g carbs, 15g sugar, 2 g protein ( frosted brown sugar) you can drop the sugar but getting un-frosted. That works for me and they are easier to eat then bars. If i use a bar, its bonk-breaker pb&j hands down without a doubt. Find something you can eat multiple hours in a row and is easy to get down. dont forget to factor in calories you drink

hydration, drink a bottle a hour, obviously more if its hot. tailor salt intake if its hotter as well. i usually aim for 1/4 bottle every 15 min. towards the end, grab a small coke or something. the caffeine boost and sugar will help. like mile 80 or so.

thats really all there is to it to do 100 miles. now to train for it, i would do something like this, since you only ride in 5-8 mile spurts. FWIW I would train by hours, not by miles. to start, i would do 2,1hr rides on back to back days, day off, then do another 1 hr ride, with a 2 hr ride on the weekend.
example:

week 1- mon- 1hr, tues- 1 hr,wed-off/crosstrain, thurs- 1hr ride, fri- off, sat- 2 hr ride sun- off/recovery spin if you want

week 2- mon 1 hr tues 1.5hr wed off/CT thurs- 1 hr fri- off sat- 2 hr sun off
3- m 1.5 hr tu 1.5 hr wed off th 1.5 fri off sat 2.5 sun off
4- same as week 3
5- m 1.5 tu 2 wed off thurs 1.5 fri off sat 3hr

fwiw i dont usually ride more than 2 hours during the week and i still avg 10 hrs a week. after a while instead of making longer rides during the week, just add more days and keep increasing your long ride on the weekend. you can tailor that schedule up or down to fit your fitness, but i dont think that you need to decrease the times since you already ride somewhat.

just my thoughts

nato2377
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07/11/14 12:25 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

also, ride hills as much as possible

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07/11/14 12:39 PM
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I know people that have done more than that for charity with little previous training.

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07/11/14 01:14 PM
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Right now I'm on old mtn bike(solid frame) on slicks. GOing bike shopping next week(I've wanted a new bike for a while)

It's out and back, and climbing is only over ~30 miles, but at least I get the down-hill on the way back.

And I have a 3 month old, so finding 5 hours a week might be tricky. I'll start by adding a long ride, and see about maybe one of my commutes tacking on 30-60 minutes as well.


Good advice on pacing, I'm notorious for trying to go all out all the time. I think some long slow rides will help for sure.

nato2377
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07/11/14 01:20 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Just drop a day during the week then but push yourself on the weekends. It will also help you learn to pace yourself

bt0
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07/11/14 09:20 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Find a marathon plan, and multiply the distances by 4.

gamby
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07/12/14 09:32 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: Maximus
I know people that have done more than that for charity with little previous training.


I see this every year during the MS150. For each rider who can pull it off, there is one who suffers massively and another who drops out.

50 goes by in a breeze. Things start hurting at 60-65.

As nato said, hydration and nutrition are key. Too much and you bog down/want to crap yourself. Too little and you bonk.

A cross bike with 700x25's would be a fantastic century bike. I'm eyeing the Nashbar steel cross bike at $750 with 105 drivetrain. Weighs a ton (26lbs) but dammit if it doesn't look fun.

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07/13/14 12:59 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: bt0
Find a marathon plan, and multiply the distances by 4.

I got a 5km plan, take that and multiple by 32?

Well, a 2hour ride isn't looking likely this weekend. Doing 80min run tho, same thing right?

nato2377
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07/13/14 08:45 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

no

SJP0tato
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07/13/14 10:40 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
Well, a 2hour ride isn't looking likely this weekend. Doing 80min run tho, same thing right?


Sounds like your cardio will be fine if you've got a good running base established. It's building up the proper leg muscle & getting your crotch used to the seat that you need more seat time for.

I've heard a few bicyclists say use trainers for building muscle. Don't waste hours toiling away at one speed on one, but find a good interval program (or whatever they're called on bikes) to build muscle.

The crotch issue is one you just have to gut out unfortunately. It's better to find out on training rides that the shorts/seat combo you're using won't work at mile 60 than on the actual ride.

bt0
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07/13/14 11:08 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: bt0
Find a marathon plan, and multiply the distances by 4.

I got a 5km plan, take that and multiple by 32?

Well, a 2hour ride isn't looking likely this weekend. Doing 80min run tho, same thing right?


I said marathon because the time spent doing the efforts are roughly the same order of magnitude.

Aerobic capacity translates, but use of actual muscle group doesn't translate that well.

The position is different, you're using muscles in different ways to propel yourself, and you're using different groups of muscles as stabilizer groups.

You need to add time & distance slowly while building up back & other muscles, avoid saddle sores, etc. to keep from injuring yourself.

But if you're going to be a douche about it, go ahead, just train by running. I'm sure everything'll work out fine if the century is the first time you get on the bike for more than a little at a time.

robbbby
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07/13/14 02:52 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I think he was being sarcastic about the run being the same as biking.

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07/13/14 07:10 PM
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Yeah. Just being a bit of a smartass.

Lightning showers. That and STP is this weekend, roads are crowded with bikes. That and getting another 2 hours free with 3 month old isn't happening.

I'll probably have to drop my long runs and go into maintenance mode in running.

JT
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07/15/14 12:07 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I did STP last weekend, and there were plenty of novices out there! Some will likely hate cycling for a while! Full report coming when I get home to a real keyboard.

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07/15/14 09:04 PM
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Still waiting biatch.

Thinking ill do 50 minutes at lunch in addition to my daily 45(split for commute). See how it feels.

I think my plan is to sub out my long run for a long ride. Then run commute to keeps weekly mileage solid.

JT
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07/15/14 09:52 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Running is dumb! There's no coasting!

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07/16/14 06:06 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Did 50 minutes at lunch today, felt good, not bad for having done squats/ran yesterday.

I think I'll see about 2 hours/~30 miles over the weekend and see how that feels.

gamby
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07/16/14 06:18 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I shall be interested to hear how it goes. \:\)

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07/16/14 06:23 PM
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haha, yeah, me too. I suspect I'll bonk at that pace right around 100 minutes. I wish I had an iphone holder for pace tracking(20 year old bike computer died).
I might have to get some gloves too, I could see my hands getting annoyed if I went much longer.

It'll be good for me though.

FWIW, it was 88 degrees today and I only had 4-5 oz of water. BUt of course on a short ride you're not getting that dehydrated.


STill got to ride home, and I'm feeling those squats now. I'm expecting 8mph.

stickaz_old
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07/16/14 07:23 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

14 miles bro, come on, thats like a warmup

gamby
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07/16/14 07:25 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

A few thoughts.

On my regular 20 mile flat-with-one climb loop that takes around 1:10, I go through one large water bottle. You should be doing a bottle per hour--period. In hot weather it's dangerous not to.

I have mapmyride set to give me an average speed update every 5 minutes. Granted, I don't do that on long rides because GSIII battery gets raped. You could just keep your bike computer on elapsed time and compare that with your miles in for vague average speed (you're crazy to not to get a new bike computer, BTW--get a cheap 5 function unit)

Funny thing about gloves--even they can get irritating around the 70 mile mark. I still use them doe. Just be sure to break them in well before your century because blisters.

nato2377
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07/16/14 07:42 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

dont get gel gloves though

<--- doesnt ride with gloves #askingfortroubleificrash

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07/16/14 09:27 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: Clueless in California
14 miles bro, come on, thats like a warmup

Fuck your ebiking ass!


I needed something to do at lunch doe. Seemed like a good test case

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07/16/14 10:52 PM
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Gamby I hear you but if I can run for an hour with no water, 50 biking won't be to bad.
But for longer rides I'll shoot for that rate.

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07/20/14 03:36 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

2:03 moving time 32.5miles. Think elapsed was 2;10?

One large water bottle. But I had to pee at 30 & 1:40 so I think I was hydrated.

I didn't realized I had a tailwind on the outbound, but I should of. Lol, why am I cruising in 19th gear.

Time for a real bike.

gamby
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07/20/14 10:45 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
Gamby I hear you but if I can run for an hour with no water, 50 biking won't be to bad.
But for longer rides I'll shoot for that rate.


That's the internet mindset that gets people hurt--"I ride a century on one bottle no problem!". The bike carries two bottles. Utilize this often and you'll avoid trouble.

Today was 40 miles in 2:30 on exactly 2 large bottles. I'd have felt better with another half bottle doe

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07/21/14 01:56 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

1 cage, 1 bottle right now.

Seriously though, I peed twice in 2 hours. I don't think I'm dehydrated(it was pretty cool Sunday).

Probably could have used more sodium though.

nato2377
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07/21/14 02:52 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

whenever you do 100 though, you want to try to hit the 1 bottle a hour goal or it will make later on in the ride suck a bit more. i mean you can do it without 1 a hour if you want. i always pee a hour or two into my 100s and then never again during the rest of the race and i go through 3, 100oz camelbacks. if you want something with more sodium try Tailwind Nutrition

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07/21/14 04:04 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I think there was some confusion. I was referring to my prior 50 minutes on an 80 degree day. Not a 50 mile ride.

I was just saying no need to beat me up for 50 minutes with no(essentially) water on a hot day, I'm aware of my limitations.

I'm also aware that defictis (caloric, water, etc) compound the longer you go. Success on long activities (anything over 3+ hours) requires proper sustenance.

stickaz_old
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07/21/14 04:17 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
1 cage, 1 bottle right now.

Seriously though, I peed twice in 2 hours. I don't think I'm dehydrated(it was pretty cool Sunday).

Probably could have used more sodium though.


maybe you don't have a going problem rather a growing problem?


Risky Business
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07/27/14 04:08 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Update on OP progress/bike?

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07/27/14 09:55 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Vacation this weekend. So I slacked.
Think I'll shoot for 3 hours next weekend.
Might bike shop too.

gamby
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07/28/14 03:47 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta

Might bike shop too.


Doo EET.

Find a good 105-equipped bike (or higher if you ballin') that fits you right and you'll be golden.

stickaz_old
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07/28/14 04:37 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I want to see him do it on the mtbike doe

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07/28/14 05:41 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: stickaz
I want to see him do it on the mtbike doe

Better than e-biking everything doe.

stickaz_old
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07/28/14 06:02 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

y u gotta make this about me, we talking bout u in here, doe

when I make a thread about my [awesome] ebike, feel free to offer critique about it there ;\)

Risky Business
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07/28/14 06:38 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter \:\| wow

nato2377
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07/28/14 07:13 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

if he even makes it 100 miles it will prob take all day at the rate he is training. doe.

stickaz_old
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07/28/14 07:16 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter \:\| wow


On your left bro

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07/28/14 09:48 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: nato2377
if he even makes it 100 miles it will prob take all day at the rate he is training. doe.

I thought all day was reasonable doe. \:\|

I've got a newborn. Cut me some fucking slack playa.

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07/28/14 09:51 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
dat cripple fight doe, ebike commuter vs. *dressed to da 9s* mtb on slicks commuter \:\| wow


Youre dressed to the nines nukka, all you

fat hockey player in Lycra who's too leet to carry a pump

JT
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07/28/14 10:02 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Damn dirty I should have just sold you my road bike after I was done with STP and saved the $65 in shipping it back to Minnesota.

gamby
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07/29/14 12:19 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Damn--no love around here doe \:\( <3

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07/29/14 10:00 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: JT
Damn dirty I should have just sold you my road bike after I was done with STP and saved the $65 in shipping it back to Minnesota.

Remind me to punch you in the sphincter if you're ever back in porland...

stickaz_old
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12/15/14 07:18 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Update?

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12/16/14 12:45 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Newborn + house troubles = no budget for bike

I've got excuses for days yo!

stickaz_old
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12/16/14 12:53 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

do I have to buy you one of those sweet beginner 54/56 roadies I see on CL daily or wha?

gamby
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12/18/14 01:54 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
Newborn + house troubles = no budget for bike

I've got excuses for days yo!


\:\(

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12/19/14 03:23 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: zakcits
do I have to buy you one of those sweet beginner 54/56 roadies I see on CL daily or wha?

Last link you sent me was in SF...Find me one in Portland for a change.

I was thinking of going shopping this weekend, but now I've got the cold my kid had for the last 8 days, so going to stores sounds very unappealing.

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12/19/14 03:25 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: g@mbola
 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
Newborn + house troubles = no budget for bike

I've got excuses for days yo!


\:\(

Yeah, life's a bear. My running is down by about 1/2 too, and I'm not lifting. Hard to do that shit when your kid is always sick (or you from the cold's she gives ya).


The good news is my drinking is way down, so there's that (hold it, is that good? or bad?!)

stickaz_old
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12/25/14 08:34 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I did a half-century today in OPs honor

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12/26/14 07:13 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Congrats. Isn't a half century the equivalent of walking a 10km?

I've had a gnarly sinus infection. Just getting better. Since running is failing me I think ill ride more. The weather has been freakish this winter though. I'll probably go bike shopping next month and put the kiddo seat on the beast.

Being a cheapskate means I'm slow to drop a G on a sport I don't love. But road cycling is a sport of convenience, and it's cheaper than a car I suppose.

Maybe I'll go do 50 next weekend on the trail on the beast for shits and giggles.

stickaz_old
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12/28/14 04:58 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

How about a flatbar hybrid road bike like a specialized sirrus sport? Mine was $250 on CL and I sold it for the same lol
Otherwise a "motibecane" entry road bike on bikes direct? Probably well under $600

This one looks pimp...$700
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawe.../lt2300_xii.htm

gamby
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12/29/14 11:20 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

A flatbar road bike is just a stopgap to getting a proper drop bar setup. I'd just go straight to the $700 BD special or something on CL for similar money.

stickaz_old
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12/29/14 11:35 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

It sounds like he is currently more than sweating the price delta

JT
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12/30/14 06:14 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Flat bar roadies are great....for rides under 40 miles.

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01/02/15 10:59 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: g@mbola
A flatbar road bike is just a stopgap to getting a proper drop bar setup. I'd just go straight to the $700 BD special or something on CL for similar money.

I sort of terrified (unreasonably?) about DIY assembling a bike?

IDK, I probably should just get over it.

What do I need for tools here? I've still never replaced most my stolen tools, so only have the very basics.

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01/02/15 11:01 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: zakcits
How about a flatbar hybrid road bike like a specialized sirrus sport? Mine was $250 on CL and I sold it for the same lol
Otherwise a "motibecane" entry road bike on bikes direct? Probably well under $600

This one looks pimp...$700
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawe.../lt2300_xii.htm

link is broke stickazz

SJP0tato
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01/02/15 02:14 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: zakcits
How about a flatbar hybrid road bike like a specialized sirrus sport? Mine was $250 on CL and I sold it for the same lol
Otherwise a "motibecane" entry road bike on bikes direct? Probably well under $600

This one looks pimp...$700
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawe.../lt2300_xii.htm

link is broke stickazz


Looks like he was linking to: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawes/lt2300_xii.htm

SJP0tato
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01/02/15 02:24 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: g@mbola
A flatbar road bike is just a stopgap to getting a proper drop bar setup. I'd just go straight to the $700 BD special or something on CL for similar money.

I sort of terrified (unreasonably?) about DIY assembling a bike?

IDK, I probably should just get over it.

What do I need for tools here? I've still never replaced most my stolen tools, so only have the very basics.


When I got mine last year, the assembly is 99% common sense (if you're not sure how to setup a specific part/component, just look it up online), using a multi-tool like this:
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_501979_-1___
and a couple adjustable wrenches.
It's cake if you've ever worked on a car.

gamby
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01/05/15 12:01 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: g@mbola
A flatbar road bike is just a stopgap to getting a proper drop bar setup. I'd just go straight to the $700 BD special or something on CL for similar money.

I sort of terrified (unreasonably?) about DIY assembling a bike?

IDK, I probably should just get over it.

What do I need for tools here? I've still never replaced most my stolen tools, so only have the very basics.


I Bikes Direct bike should realistically only require a phillips screwdriver, 4/5/6mm allen wrenches (maybe an 8 or 10 for the crank bolt if you want to check the torque on it) and that's about it. Spoke wrench if the wheels aren't true (unlikely).

Look up tutorials on how to tune derailleurs on youtube. I'm assuming they're up there. I've done it so much I can do it by ear at this point

Christ, if you were local, I'd do the whole thing for you for $20 \:\)

stickaz_old
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07/13/15 12:32 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

update?

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07/13/15 01:03 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: stickaz
update?

Kids take up all your time.

stickaz_old
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07/13/15 01:55 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I'm still thinking I'll do one. Guessing SJ-SF and back rather than anything formal. Probably get plastered by a porsche on skyline blvd

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07/13/15 02:45 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: stickaz
I'm still thinking I'll do one. Guessing SJ-SF and back rather than anything formal. Probably get plastered by a porsche on skyline blvd

yeah, I kept thinking of riding to astoria, same deal, except instead of porsche it'll be a chevy k5 blazer

It doesn't help we're about 10 degrees warmer than normal. 85 by lunch time til 9pm puts a damper on training ideas.

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05/16/16 10:27 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Update?

schtickaz.ai
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05/16/16 01:09 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

OP will do a century LONG before I will

Sir Ironpool
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05/16/16 01:57 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

They're not that big a deal guys.

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05/16/16 03:08 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
They're not that big a deal guys.


Either is a 9-5 job

But doing both can be a bit more challenging

Impulsive
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05/16/16 04:43 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I'm sure I could do one, but I'd imagine it would be hell. I typically ride for 90 minutes with the odd 2 hour ride. I can't imagine being on the bike for 7+ hours.

Sir Ironpool
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05/16/16 08:22 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
They're not that big a deal guys.


Either is a 9-5 job

But doing both can be a bit more challenging



Trust me, there were plenty of gainfully employed whales out there when I did one in Palm Springs back in 2011.
If it's a supported event, I think it comes down to comfort more than physical fitness. I was probably riding the bike less than you when I did it.

edit: my old man didn't as well...and he has a full time job as well.

Tour de Palm Springs. We both did the half marathon the next day too. The ride was kind of a clusterfuck at the aid stations. Basically full on traffic jam taking up the whole damn road. We would hop off, hike through the sand around it, then get back on keep going. I think that experience was one of the reasons I never became a fan of cycling in groups.

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05/16/16 10:09 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

So there's a couple factors:

I'm not riding a 3k? TT bike, but a 1k glorified commuter on wide tires which has been hammered through snow, 100 miles of rain/grit, 3 CX races, a couple accidents, etc. Rear hub already done once and possibly making noise again.

this event has multiple distances, so the smart novices start at the lower distances. Out of the 100 coworkers signed up, only 20 men are doing the 104 miler.

The weather is a possible factor.

4k of climbing

My inability to pace myself well on a bike (I tend to ride at 80% with 100% sprints regardless of 4mi commute, or 20 miler).

My factory saddle is hard as fuck

oh, and no friends doing the ride

I think the one nature is fucking with me too

CN: it's all in my head, I know this.

Sir Ironpool
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05/16/16 11:19 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I'm just giving you shit man...but I still think you could do it no problem. It'll be a long-ass day but you'd be pretty stoked at the end of it.

You should check out the show Boundless for some inspiration.


FYI: I had just built that bike a week or so before that ride...and paid less than a grand for it all. Used parts and cheap Chinese shit. \:D I rarely ever got to get aero during that damn ride either.

schtickaz.ai
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05/17/16 12:07 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

if I had to pick a bike to do a century on right now it would be my CAAD for sure. My back was in rough shape after 56 miles on my TT bike [I was in the aerobars the entire time except for the climbs and the hairiest of the descents] even though I couldnt feel it while I was on the bike--shit sucked as soon as I got off.
I'd probably sit up on the hoods the entire time too at 17 mph because why not

Though that probably speaks more to my bike fit [eg flexibility] than anything else. I'm pretty sure a CX is even more relaxed than a roadie.

so cliff notes: probably a great bike for a first century. Not that I would know what happens beyond mile 60

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05/17/16 10:54 AM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

I'm not sitting at the hoods for 17mph for 100 miles.
Try 15...
\:\(


Typing it out helped, but I think it's mostly ego. There's a lot of hardcore cyclists here, and I feel like I've signed up for that group by doing the 100miler, and I'm just having to accept I'll be slower than them.

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05/24/16 12:19 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Survived, mostly maintained 16mph moving pace according to computer(gps read slower because I walked around rest stops with phone), even with lots of slowing for traffic. 3,300 ft of climbing

Everything worked. Glad I upgraded and downsized tires (improved responsiveness helped) and enjoyed the huge benefit of drafting/team riding for ~75-80 miles. Lots of rest stops made it sort of easy/relaxed.

Now What.

Impulsive
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05/24/16 12:31 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

Solid work.

How long did it take?

schtickaz.ai
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05/24/16 12:44 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

7 hrs moving time! :finger:

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05/24/16 12:46 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

 Originally Posted By: stickaz
7 hrs moving time! :finger:


Phone recorded moving time while I was walking around the break stations!


Just shy of 9 start to finish:
GPS movement of 7
bike movement of 6:30

CN: my group took a LOT of long breaks, but moved decently (it seemed like whenver I looked we were pushing 17mph+ on flats, not bad for weekend warriors on tourers).

Sir Ironpool
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05/24/16 02:52 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

So like I said...it was easy, right? \:D

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05/24/16 02:59 PM
Re: Doing a century as a novice

It was sort of easy. Especially for the endorphin buzz achieved.

Now do I do a double? 1 day or 2 day