Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
12/21/11 11:08 PM
CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Alright here is the challenge, 2012 brings in the Biggest Loser contest to see who can lose the love-handles, beer gut and man tits.

Goal: % of body mass lost (pounds lost divided by the starting weight * 100)
Timeline: Jan 1 - July 1 with 6 mini contests at the end of each month, overall winner declared at end of challenge.
Method: doesn't matter, you can exercise, fast, do Jenny Craig or lipo I don't care.
Pics: Taken on Jan 1 and July 1, and post at end of contest. (post more often if you wish.)
Weigh in: Bi-weekly (Every second Sunday to keep it simple.)
Tale of the tape: measure stomach (at belly button), chest (at nipples), arms (flexed)
Age Under 30yrs and Over 30yrs subcategories (be specific if you want)


Participants
Big Tasty - Over 30 club
Homerun - Under 30 club
XtorqueX
TheKing
alex053
Sharkie - Over 30 club
Helmer86?
Kihou: cheerleader & poster of pics
VoC0mSUrFeR
Tabasco?
Random Hero
whodey319?
Jrobski
M
RegisterGo
NevadaHOLE
big colloRAHRAH
Ionfyst
Njkode
OBGYN1
bew - Over 30 club
Monty - Over 30 club
dirtyS13drifta - Over 30 club
Philabong - Over 30 club
GoonerYoda - Over 30 club
Adam7 - Over 30 club
FireInTheWhole
Mr. Mom
Krys?
Dahlia - Over 30 club
137
Shicken
CheeseGoggles - Over 30 club
slackereg6
Uvula - Over 30 club
Uvula's wife
justachillin2
VipMedic
lessthanmike
SelfEntitledProdigy
Mr. Mom
HX_Guy
DieZel
g@mby - Over 30 club


Consultants:
Art
Lewis
Silock


Add yourself to the list if I missed you!

Original thread:
http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/6005163/fpart/1


137
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 12:04 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

you could add me, we're doing a paleo challenge in january till the end of feb. I expect at least a 15-20lb drop in that time, going to go super strict.

Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 02:09 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

You know what, I'd love to help anyone out 100%, but to me it all comes down to what kind of person you are....are you the type of person to dedicate yourself or not. Also I feel like Ob1 can give some great personal info(as you may not listen to me idk) as he was "bigger" and lost it by eating less so i'm not sure if he is in the consultant role or losing weight..

Here comes the "consultant" role...I will help ANYONE out, questions anything I will give 100% thought out answers. boom.


CStyles45
(Post Master Sr)
12/22/11 04:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Over under on the amount of people that stick it out? I say less than 20%. Best of luck though to all that participate! \:\)

Cheesegoggles
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 10:53 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

I can be counted in, although I don't plan to lose enough weight to be a serious contender for this - looking to drop 10-15 lbs. I lost about 40 a while back, so I don't have as much to lose now.

Who the hell knows if I'll keep up with checking in, anyway.

I'm over 30.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 11:17 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Over 30 category for me too.

If I participate, I will give up my %, weight and inches lost.
I am not however, interested in giving out my base numbers (at this point). That stuff I keep between me, my coach, and my dietician (I have a valid reason and will share when I feel comfortable)


Euphoricuck
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 11:20 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

kihou pics not loading *smashes keyboard*

PA2KFBPSI
(Post Master)
12/22/11 11:31 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Great idea and good luck to all.

Here comes the part where I sound like a dick. I would like to compete but since Thanksgiving I have lost 9 pounds to bring me down to 188 pounds at 6 feet tall so I don't have that much weight nor fat to lose.

Can we start a muscle up contest?


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12/22/11 12:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

You're not the only person who has said this lately...What team are you on that you have a coach?





Anyway, I'll consult.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 12:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

My Crossfit coach \:\)

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12/22/11 12:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Oh, is that what they call them in crossfit? I was wondering because I've seen that like 5 times recently on this board and I thought maybe people were getting drafted

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 02:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

I'm down for the 30+ category.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 03:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
Oh, is that what they call them in crossfit? I was wondering because I've seen that like 5 times recently on this board and I thought maybe people were getting drafted


It helps justify the insane amount of money they pay for the 'gym.' \:D


homerun
(Post Master Sr)
12/22/11 03:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Under 30 catagory here with at least 100 to lose.

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 03:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
Oh, is that what they call them in crossfit? I was wondering because I've seen that like 5 times recently on this board and I thought maybe people were getting drafted


It helps justify the insane amount of money they pay for the 'gym.' \:D


Seriously? You are gonna give people shit for joining a Crossfit gym?

My coach IS a coach - with a shit ton of credentials AND experience, civilian and military. He has MORE than earned his title, and I have a great deal of respect for him.

I am honestly disgusted that you feel the need to make fun of people for their fitness choices. Shame on you.


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12/22/11 03:51 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

30+, but I'm only looking for 10lbs realitically.

I won't be around scale for the 1st. I'll snap some beach photos.


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12/22/11 03:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
Oh, is that what they call them in crossfit? I was wondering because I've seen that like 5 times recently on this board and I thought maybe people were getting drafted


It helps justify the insane amount of money they pay for the 'gym.' \:D


Seriously? You are gonna give people shit for joining a Crossfit gym?

My coach IS a coach - with a shit ton of credentials AND experience, civilian and military. He has MORE than earned his title, and I have a great deal of respect for him.

I am honestly disgusted that you feel the need to make fun of people for their fitness choices. Shame on you.

Lose the 5lb stick out of your ass to start. He was just smirking. No need to get butthurt before we even start.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 04:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Thank you x for your input.

Mr.Mom - you are entitled to your opinion. Ignore my previous rant



Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 04:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

I wanna be a coach, what do they get paid

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12/22/11 04:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

I don't. I don't think I would have the patience.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 05:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Dahlia....it was a joke, but god damn you seem a little sensitive about it.

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
12/22/11 05:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

Yup, I admit it. I am very sensitive these days. The holidays have been hard and I took your comments personally/too seriously.

Sorry


slackereg6
(Member)
12/28/11 10:12 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

I'm in. I want to drop 7-10 pounds by the end of April and this will be an easy way to make sure I stay on track.

Uvula
(Post Master Sr)
12/28/11 04:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

I am in for the 30+ team!

The wife wants in but does not want to share specific number UGH!

Let the fat flapping begin!


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
12/28/11 05:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

She can keep her numbers to herself and just post percentage and inches lost.

I think it's fair if people chose to keep that private


montyAdministrator
(Post Master Sr)
12/28/11 05:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

31 here

Uvula
(Post Master Sr)
12/28/11 10:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge

I took measure today... \:\(

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12/29/11 11:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

31 here.

I've mostly already started, going to not care this weekend though.


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
12/29/11 05:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

33 yrs old here!

Uvula
(Post Master Sr)
12/30/11 01:09 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

37 will be 1 month away from 38 by end \:\/

Bew
(Post Master Supreme)
01/01/12 03:16 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm 31 and looking to lose around 150lbs.

I haven't started yet, but I will be very shortly. I'm waiting on some paperwork to get finalized and surgery date to get set, then I will have a set-in-stone diet (assigned by my surgeons Nutritionist) to work with. It shouldn't be more than a couple of weeks before I start, though.

If I remember correctly, from speaking with her last time, I will likely be doing a protein shake for breakfast and lunch (250 cal. or less each) and 2 unbreaded, no skin chicken breasts for dinner (around 220 cal. total) with no sauce or added carbs. Nothing but water for drinks, which I prefer anyway.

Total daily intake will be around 800 calories.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/01/12 04:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Wait, coaching? In!

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/01/12 09:18 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

No pics yet.....

Current stats..

Age - 41

Weight - 220
Height - 5'7"
Waist - 37"
Neck - 16.5"

Personal goal is for better overall health and weight loss so I'm not so concerned with my chest and arm measurements. ;\)


montyAdministrator
(Post Master Sr)
01/01/12 09:51 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Weight 182
height 5'9
Waist 34


goal 170

btw was 220+ 4 months ago :P


Uvula
(Post Master Sr)
01/01/12 11:36 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Is there a reward for the biggest to start ;\)

Ugh here we go(puts on flame suit):
No pic yet

5'10"
353.5 lbs
Waist 59.5" (hhmm wear 52-54 pants
Chest 53.5"
Arms RT 19" LT 17" yeah bitches right is bigger... duh!
BMI: 51.6

I have actual full body comp from doc.... but not sure where it is LOL!


slackereg6
(Member)
01/01/12 12:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

5'10"
162.0
Waist 33"
Arms 13.5" Yeah small and I don't care.

Looking to get to 155 by end of April.


Random_Hero
(Post Master)
01/01/12 01:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I quit smoking in November and I knew I had gained some weight but I didnt think it was quite this much. I weighed abroung 225lbs. when I quit and I was probably around 215lbs at my lightest. I havent weighed this much in at least 10 years. Thats OK, I'm going to put that all behind me. I am focused on this right now, just like I was with quitting smoking.

I hope to drop below 200lbs. by July 1.


Currrent Stats

Age- 31
Height- 6'0
Weight- 251
Waist-
Neck-
Arms-

Sorry, I dont have the measurements or body pictures. I have work today. I may update this post later tonight or tomorrow with the measurements. Anyway here is one I took on the scale this morning.



Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
01/01/12 05:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Age: 40
Weight: 204.6lbs
Stomach: 41"
Chest: 43"
Arms: 16.5"

Goal: 180lbs

Pics taken and will post monthly at the end of each.


lessthanmike
(Major Member)
01/01/12 08:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Alright I'll get in.

Age:35
Weight:169.7
Height:5'9"


Goal: 155

Pic Today Far Right


Cheesegoggles
(Post Master Supreme)
01/02/12 09:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Weighed in today since I didn't hop on the scale first thing yesterday morning.

Weight: 189.8
Height: 5'10
Waist: (around belly button): 37 inches
Chest: 41 inches
Bicep: 14 inches

Kind of pissed off that I've let my weight get up this high. Had gotten down from 215 to 172-175 a couple of years ago and stayed there until this summer. Have gotten off track with diet and exercise during my wife's pregnancy, which isn't really an excuse.

Goal: would really like to get down to 165 lbs

Also, I've been doing Starting Strength for about a month. My squats are currently 190 lbs for 3x5 and bench is 150 for 3x5. I'm not tapped out yet at those weights, but am approaching that point. I want to get the squat up to 250 and bench to 210 while weighing in at 165. I would be really happy with that. I've never been a big lifter.

Pic below. I took a shirtless pic and may post it later if I make good progress.




justachillin2
(Jr Member)
01/02/12 12:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Over 30 club here

Height: 5'7"
Weight: 163 as of this morning
Waist: 32"
Chest: 42"
Arms: 16"

Did the bod pod thing a few weeks ago and i think it lied to me. Didn't know you were suppose to fast before doing it so i think i threw it off by drinking too much water. Said i was at 20.7% body fat. Will get another one this week.

Goals are unknown at this time lol. Maybe a 6 pack? Bigger arms?


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
01/02/12 01:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

How often are we checking in on this?

The beginning of each month?
(just wondering as I will be away from CSi while in school - but can pop in to put my #s in)


SelfEntitledProdigy
(Post Master)
01/02/12 01:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I hope its not to late to join, My goal is to get to around 200 by July if not sooner. Pics to come.
Age:28
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 108.5 kilo or 238.7 lbs
Neck:19"
Waist: 41.0"
Chest: 46"
Arms: 17" left 17.5 right
Thighs: 27"
Calves" 18.5"
Body fat % according to Army tape measurements 24%.

**update**
weight 1/11/12 229.9 lbs or 104.5 kilo


Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
01/02/12 03:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hey Dahlia, yes once a month for the mini-contest but you can do every second Sunday for your own records.



SelfEntitledProdigy: added to the challenge.


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
01/02/12 03:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Age 33
Height: 5'7"
Weight 196lbs as of this AM
Don't know the rest


Ionfyst
(Post Master Sr)
01/02/12 04:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

28
5'9
226
38%


M
(Post Master Supreme)
01/02/12 05:51 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

As of January 2, 2012
Age: 33
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 229 pounds
Fat percentage: 27% (I think this is too high, but the scale is consistent)

I'll post a pictures and measurements later.


TakeItToPM
(Post Master Sr)
01/02/12 06:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Age: 31
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 212 lbs
Measurements: Will get them shortly...broke that free tape measure thing from BB.com fuuuuuuuuuu

edit - my stats: waist 39 3/4" (good god), chest 41 1/4" arm 15 11/16"


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
01/02/12 07:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Okay, got my numbers.

Will post up percentage and inches lost on Feb 1 \:\)


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/02/12 10:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm in.

36 years old
5'7
170 pounds today. I was 161 on Nov 20th.
Goal: 150 pounds.

Pic from my run last night.



homerun
(Post Master Sr)
01/04/12 11:44 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Forgot about checking this:

28 years old
5'11"
321 pounds this morning

Goal is 210 pounds because I don't remember what I look like at 180. It's been a LONG time.


Krys
(Post Master Supreme)
01/04/12 06:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm in. From June to now, I'm up about 20lbs due mostly to my medication changes \:\( I've weaned myself off of everything as of December 29(was having to take Tramadol, Flexiril or Valium, and and some other new steroid Nabumetone twice daily or more during this time for a flare up with my spine issues) and all the water weight is dropping pretty quickly. I've been really bloated, but still in 95% of my same clothes.

29 years old
5'9"
Jan 2 - 187lbs


first was about 2 weeks ago, second was at my lowest, which was about 165, back in May (for reference, I started my weightloss at just over 265)- a little puffy from all the water retention, but not much change sizewise.

I like Monday weigh-ins - it's always kept me accountable through the weekend - so I set my starting weight on Monday the 2.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/04/12 07:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Meh, you still look good. \:\)

I'm only looking to lose 15 or so. My real goal is to lose my belly before my 40th birthday in May.

I took a "before" pic today (will post later) and I'll probably do a separate thread.



I just need the commitment/motivation of showing you fucks a pic of me shirtless.



Oh yeah--39 years old, 5'11", 205 lbs.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/04/12 09:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

.

Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
01/04/12 10:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

\:\/



justachillin2
(Jr Member)
01/05/12 11:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

ok, so i did the bod pod again. needless to say i'm not so happy! lol, weighed in at 163 and body fat was at 21%. So i now have a goal of 12%. I'm fit, for what i think is fit, but 21% is a no go. So time to up the cardio and lose at least 13lbs.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/06/12 12:33 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Pics:

Weigh in: JAN 3rd : I did not take formal measurements but I weigh in at 212lbs (currently 208 and dropping) My body fat results were 29% Lean mass 150.17 and fat mass 61.83 I'm 5'8"
Age: 31

I'll take measurements and update my weight tomorrow



gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/06/12 01:16 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Here's my "before" pic \:\(



This pic really woke me up about how big my belly got. \:\(

As stated earlier, 5'11", 205lbs. No clue on bodyfat, not really concerned about measurements.

I'm doing a separate thread for my personal fitness BS, though...


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
01/06/12 04:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

LET'S GET THIS GOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROCK ROCK ROCK ROCK ROCK ROCK SWAG!!


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/06/12 05:10 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Lewis.....post up an inspirational pic of yourself!

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/06/12 06:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm in too! Will take new pics and do measurements on Monday morning.

alex053
(Post Master Supreme)
01/06/12 09:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I want in on this too. I need a tape measure though.

Age: 31
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 230.6


Goal: 190


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/07/12 09:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Can i still get in on this...

I have pic from Jan 1, and stats... won't post pic til end cause it's pretty embarrassing...

Age: 35
Height: 74"
Weight: 243.6 lbs
BF%: (measured on a scale with those pads, prolly not reliable but it'll show changes) 30% \:\(
Belly button: 42"
Chest: 44"
Arms: 16"

Goal for 3/30/12: 210lbs @ < 18% BF

Will update that goal in March...


alex053
(Post Master Supreme)
01/08/12 01:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What happened man?!?!

Krys
(Post Master Supreme)
01/08/12 08:14 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Alright. Week 1 update for me. Good week - back in the full swing of my more strict eating, bloat is going fast. No changes other than that and no meds.

January 1: 187
January 8: 179.7

-7.3 lbs or 3.9%

Things will be much slower toward the end of next week.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/08/12 02:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: alex053
What happened man?!?!


4 years of doing next to nothing, and eating whatever I wanted, especially late nights since I'm working 2nd shift hours...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/08/12 03:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Currently posting from the aero position on my bike.....and then a 10 mile run. Bring it on bitches!

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01/08/12 05:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: alex053
What happened man?!?!


4 years of doing next to nothing, and eating whatever I wanted, especially late nights since I'm working 2nd shift hours...
Happens but, experience and muscle memory will have you back into shape in no-time.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/08/12 06:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Jan. 1 - 220

Jan. 8 - 220

Being home for the holidays, I've tried to stick to my whole foods lifestyle as much as possible. Unfortunately, damn near every relative I visited still eats southern fried style. \:\)

Tomorrow I will be back home where I can cook for myself and exercise daily.


**DONOTDELETE**
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01/08/12 06:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Where you at? Connecticut? Dude hop on the metro north and lets go bowling.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/08/12 06:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
Where you at? Connecticut? Dude hop on the metro north and lets go bowling.


Next time bro. I spent 2.5 weeks catching up with relatives and friends I hadn't seen in about 15 years.

I have a NY trip planned. ;\)


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01/08/12 06:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012












Little motivation. Years of lifting, all kinds of different sizes. You work around life but, think of lifting and exercise as "long haul" and you'll always make your goals.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/08/12 07:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Holy fucking christ dude! Thats proof in the pudding.....no one here should ever question your lifting advice.

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01/09/12 10:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yes, that's an old picture before I perfected my shirtless-self-portrait poses.


more motivation to come lol


alex053
(Post Master Supreme)
01/09/12 11:57 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: alex053
What happened man?!?!


4 years of doing next to nothing, and eating whatever I wanted, especially late nights since I'm working 2nd shift hours...


same thing here man. went from 193 when i found out the wife was pregnant. taking care of her, then having the kid, now trying to find time to go to the gym and get back on track of eating right it tough. now im around 230 and feeling it \:\(


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/09/12 12:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Alright, got measurements and photos.

Age: 30
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 177.4lbs
Waist: 36 1/2"
Chest: 41"
Biceps: 14 3/8"
Body fat: 18.8% (According to Withings scale)



gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/09/12 03:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Is next week weigh-in day? I lost 3.25 lbs. since last week (201.75 now), so it's working. \:\)

Meanwhile, I keep forgetting to find a tape to do measurements.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/09/12 05:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
Yes, that's an old picture before I perfected my shirtless-self-portrait poses.


more motivation to come lol


my body is ready!


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01/09/12 11:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

7lb loss for last week.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/10/12 02:11 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
7lb loss for last week.

Same here *fist bump*


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/10/12 07:07 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I didn't gain as much weight as I thought I would on vacation. I left at 212, weighed in on Jan 1. at 220. Today, 218.

More than I should have gained though.


Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
01/10/12 11:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Added the rest of you guys to the list.

Guess I will be starting this week. Wife has been down with the flu and I've been running after the 3 kids by myself. You'd think that would have burned off some fat...only losing hair from it.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/10/12 12:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
I didn't gain as much weight as I thought I would on vacation. I left at 212, weighed in on Jan 1. at 220. Today, 218.

More than I should have gained though.


Good god man! Did you eat everything in sight! \:D

I was gone on vacation for two weeks and came back 2 lbs heavier but a couple days later, I was actually 1lb lighter than prior to the vacation. Weird.

I ate way more than I should have I felt, to the point that I felt sick sometimes (Example...on day, within 30 minutes, I had a steak/onion sandwich, followed by a crepe dessert, followed by this super rich eggnog type hot drink, followed by a 1.5 ft hot dog).
I did do quite a bit of walking around though so I'm sure that helped.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/10/12 12:24 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I usually do too...but this vacation, going back to Romania in the winter with all their holiday food, I knew I wasn't going to give a fuck...I wanted to enjoy it all. Same with Germany, I wanted to try everything that looked good. With vacations, I feel that it's not something you do all the time, or maybe never visit again, so if you gain a couple pounds, it's worth it...I'd rather just work to take it off later than not have the experience while on vacation. Yes, food is an experience to me. \:D

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/10/12 03:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
I didn't gain as much weight as I thought I would on vacation. I left at 212, weighed in on Jan 1. at 220. Today, 218.

More than I should have gained though.


Good god man! Did you eat everything in sight! \:D

I was gone on vacation for two weeks and came back 2 lbs heavier but a couple days later, I was actually 1lb lighter than prior to the vacation. Weird.

I ate way more than I should have I felt, to the point that I felt sick sometimes (Example...on day, within 30 minutes, I had a steak/onion sandwich, followed by a crepe dessert, followed by this super rich eggnog type hot drink, followed by a 1.5 ft hot dog).
I did do quite a bit of walking around though so I'm sure that helped.


Actually I did really good on my food selections. Unfortunately, when hanging out with old high school buddies and childhood friends, it was beer and vodka. When I visited my relatives, I had to eat at least a sample of everything that was cooked. I stayed away from the sweets and cooked for myself every chance I got. Plus my parents have a treadmill in the basement so I walked about 30 minutes every morning.

I did go to my 2 favorite local eateries though. It was sooooo good. \:D


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/10/12 03:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Even on vacations I hit the gym and monitor what I eat. If I needed to hit the gym 3 times during the week I was playing...I at least get one in and a day or 2 of cardio. A few hours on vacation will do wonders....and I don't pig out either...although I'll let loose.


I got lazy.


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
01/12/12 01:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

KEEP IT UP, DAY IN AND DAY OUT... EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

P.S GO PHIL!


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/12/12 11:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Every day Im shufflin.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/13/12 02:08 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Added the rest of you guys to the list.



I didn't make it (over 30 club)(39) \:\(


SelfEntitledProdigy
(Post Master)
01/13/12 09:29 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Been hitting the gym all week and feel great, sitting @ 229 lbs or 104.5 KG.
I have been using myfirtnesspal all week to track my food intake and work out.
Still 40lbs to go till I reach goal weight.


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01/13/12 12:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

To add an exclamation point to my goals, 2 coworkers and I have entered in to an agreement. Using myfitnesspal, we have to pay both of the other contestants $0.10 per calorie over our given limits.

We agreed to start Tuesday with Superbowl Sunday being exempt.


Bew
(Post Master Supreme)
01/13/12 04:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My lapband surgery date is confirmed. I will be having the surgery on Feb. 17th, meaning I'll be starting my pre-op diet next week (have to hit the grocery first). I'll get some pics posted as soon as I can.

Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
01/13/12 08:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
 Originally Posted By: Big Tasty
Added the rest of you guys to the list.



I didn't make it (over 30 club)(39) \:\(


Done and done


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/14/12 01:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/14/12 02:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



Best art pic IMO *swoon*


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/14/12 03:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

hows everyone doing on food?



Eating this while I troll. Goal is to hit 200lbs or under by next friday.

everything was homemade, even the dressing. avocado, cilantro, lime, black pepper


Senor Eduardo_82
(Post Master Supreme)
01/14/12 05:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Avocado dressing over avocado?























Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/14/12 06:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Looks fucking delicious!

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/14/12 07:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

...and massively caloric.

I've been pretty good about resisting temptation, excessive snacking and portion size.

I'll see how it pays off on Monday's weigh-in. Week two of biggest loser is always rough


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/14/12 09:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
hows everyone doing on food?



Eating this while I troll. Goal is to hit 200lbs or under by next friday.

everything was homemade, even the dressing. avocado, cilantro, lime, black pepper


That looks freaking delicious but if you didn't say you're trying to be 200lbs or under, I would have guessed you are actually trying to gain weight/bulk up. That looks very high in calories.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/15/12 05:19 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: eddie_82
Avocado dressing over avocado?


It tasted more like a cilantro dressing than it did an avocado dressing to be honest, I hate avocado's but I've been eating them for the omega3's and fat content. I'm upset I'm starting to like them


@VAL:

I'm trying to drop down to my ultimate goal weight of 180, I am putting on a lot of lean mass, but I still have about 50-60lbs of fat mass to lose, love handles and man tits and a little bit of thigh meat. I'm trying to eat as healthy and as close to 1700 calories as possible so I can drop while still gaining muscle mass. I've dropped 8lbs so far in 2 weeks and have been pr'ing on my lifts so all is going to plan. (fyi salad was roughly about 450 cals)


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/15/12 05:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Sunday weigh-in. 10 pounds lost since Jan 1. 210.0



wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/15/12 06:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Damn sharky you have ugly feet /nonevermind

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/15/12 06:12 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: wolfsburg2
Damn sharky you have ugly feet /nonevermind


22 years of wearing military issued boots/chukkas.


Random_Hero
(Post Master)
01/15/12 08:57 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Sunday Weigh In:



Down 12.2


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/15/12 12:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Now 199.0, down 2.75 from last week. \:\)

Finally did measurements yesterday (and prob won't do them again for a quite awhile)

Chest 43.5"
Arms 14.5"
Stomach 41"

My conditioning is AWESOME right now. I'm just gonna keep rolling with it...


slackereg6
(Member)
01/15/12 01:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

163.6 up 1.6

Bew
(Post Master Supreme)
01/15/12 05:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So, I finally got around to buying a scale and starting my diet. It's embarrassing to post, but, we're all here for the same goal.

Weight as of Friday 1/13: 356
Weight as of Sunday 1/15: 353
Weight as of Tuesday 1/17: 347

My most imminent goal is to lose roughly 40lbs by March to save about $500 on my surgery costs. After the Band, my goal will be 180lbs.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/15/12 06:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

There is no embarrassment here--there is only willpower!!!

teKed Out
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 08:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I keep forgetting about this damn thread.

I dont have measurements but
Starting 6'2" - 235
Current - 228


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 10:59 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Can I be an unofficial participant and use this tread to post diet info and progress?

DL'd myfitnesspal this morning. Wife and I are both on now.

Goal in MFP is 2410 cals per day. I am going to crush that number, on the under.
870 Cals between breakfast, lunch and snack. 1540 for dinner and a snack remaining. dinner will be stir fry with chicken breast.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 11:05 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

1 Week Update

01/09/12: 177.4lbs
01/16/12: 176.0lbs


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01/16/12 04:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Week 2: The scale I've been using is broke.



HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 04:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
Week 2: The scale I've been using is broke.



That sucks.

Can I recommend this? I've had it for a couple of years and it's awesome.

http://www.withings.com/en/bodyscale


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01/16/12 04:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That looks like a neat gadget.

Not quite robust enough for me, though. \:\(

Gonna keep that on my watch list. Maybe in a couple weeks. ;\)


Ionfyst
(Post Master Sr)
01/16/12 04:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Can I recommend this? I've had it for a couple of years and it's awesome.

http://www.withings.com/en/bodyscale


Quick question, do you have to set people up in order to get fat percentage? I've had this for about a month and was trying to show a buddy of mine how it worked but for some reason it would read his weight but not the fat percentage. It kept going to a screen with what looked like a sideways wifi meter. It happened every time he stepped on it but worked fine every time I got on.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 04:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Ionfyst
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Can I recommend this? I've had it for a couple of years and it's awesome.

http://www.withings.com/en/bodyscale


Quick question, do you have to set people up in order to get fat percentage? I've had this for about a month and was trying to show a buddy of mine how it worked but for some reason it would read his weight but not the fat percentage. It kept going to a screen with what looked like a sideways wifi meter. It happened every time he stepped on it but worked fine every time I got on.


You know, I'm not sure. I think you may need to though because it needs your height to figure out body fat %, no?


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 04:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
That looks like a neat gadget.

Not quite robust enough for me, though. \:\(

Gonna keep that on my watch list. Maybe in a couple weeks. ;\)



It's good for up to 396lbs according to their website.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 04:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

As of this morning I am 200lbs even, started out 212 3 weeks ago, shooting for 185 by the end of february.



Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 05:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Getting off to a slow start. Only got in one 11 mile run last week (but at a 7:40 pace woot) since the wife was away for work, then had family visiting this weekend. Oh well....haven't lost any fitness at least.

M
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 07:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

229.0 - Monday, January 2, 2012
217.4 - Monday, January 16, 2012

Lost 11.6 pounds in first 14 days.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 07:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Damn nice job to the guys who are dropping 10+ lbs in the first two weeks, that's a nice difference and a noticeable one too (re: 137).

M
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 07:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Damn nice job to the guys who are dropping 10+ lbs in the first two weeks, that's a nice difference and a noticeable one too (re: 137).


I don't give myself too much credit yet \:D

The vast majority of the first 10 to 15 pounds people lose is water, blood, and feces. The next 10 to 15 pounds will be the true test for me, actually losing fat and not wasting away what little muscle I have.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/16/12 07:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: M
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Damn nice job to the guys who are dropping 10+ lbs in the first two weeks, that's a nice difference and a noticeable one too (re: 137).


I don't give myself too much credit yet \:D

The vast majority of the first 10 to 15 pounds people lose is water, blood, and feces. The next 10 to 15 pounds will be the true test for me, actually losing fat and not wasting away what little muscle I have.


I'm actually going to get a colonic done close to the end of the competition at my gym


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01/17/12 10:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
Week 2: The scale I've been using is broke.



Got the new scale in.

Week 1: -7
Week 2: -12.8

Boomshakalaka. Probably just scale difference, though I was shooting for 10lbs.


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
01/17/12 10:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

GO PHIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOOM BITCHES!!!!

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/18/12 07:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Jan 1 Weight: 243.6 lbs
Jan 17 Weight: 234.4 lbs

Down 9.2 since New Year...

Going to do a carb depletion next week... wish me luck... LOL...


lessthanmike
(Major Member)
01/18/12 09:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Jan. 1 Weight:169.7
Jan. 18 Wight: 163.6

Not as much as I wanted but, I ate like complete shit over the last week. Time to buckle down and do work.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/18/12 09:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Jan 1 Weight: 243.6 lbs
Jan 17 Weight: 234.4 lbs

Down 9.2 since New Year...

Going to do a carb depletion next week... wish me luck... LOL...


Expect a few minor headaches and to feel rundown. Don't give in!!!! Stay strong! \:\)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/18/12 09:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i'm bracing myself for what is to come... i've never done this before, and want to give it a try... first 7 days are hell week, then i'll start adding carbbs on certain days and go from there...

hoping this will drop a good 10 pounds of FAT over the next 10 days...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/18/12 09:25 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So you're talking completely zero carbs? So no grains, fruit, or vegetables? Just going to eat meat and eggs?

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/18/12 10:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I am down 11lbs in 10 days. Pretty happy with that.

First 10 day stint with no beer in a fair amount of time for me too lol.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/19/12 06:18 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'm bracing myself for what is to come... i've never done this before, and want to give it a try... first 7 days are hell week, then i'll start adding carbbs on certain days and go from there...


The minor side effects will wear off in a few days. When I restarted my detox off of carbs, I had a minor headache for 3 days.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/20/12 03:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
So you're talking completely zero carbs? So no grains, fruit, or vegetables? Just going to eat meat and eggs?


first 7 days will be a max of 20 carbs per day but none of that will come from straches... any carbs will be from veggies basically...

meals will look like this...

Meal 1 - 1 whole egg, 4 whites, some sort of lean meat
Meal 2 - 30-40g protien with some healthy fats
Meal 3 - 6-8 oz of lean meat with lettuce and cucumber salad with a Tbsp of olive oil
Meal 4 - basically the same as Meal 3, with some broccoli
Meal 5 - 30-40g protien with some healthy fats

I'll follow this all week then Sunday I'll have one cheat meal as my last meal of the day...


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/20/12 05:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What's your cheat meal? I usually do sushi (shrimp tempura roll).

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/21/12 01:22 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Whats a cheat meal?

This is pretty much my nightly nutrition setup. I'm actually pretty close to 1500-1700 a day I didn't realize how much less I've been ingesting.












Basically trying not to eat the same thing daily, and trying to keep the food interesting while simple. All of my meals are planed out a month in advance by my girlfriend so she knows what to buy for groceries on a weekly basis. It's nice to have that type of support model at home.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/21/12 05:32 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Having that kind of support is great.

Cheat meal? Eating something you know isn't good for you/healthy and/or won't help you achieve your goals. \:D

I had a craving for sushi last night but by the time I got it and back home, I didn't want it anymore.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/22/12 11:51 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
What's your cheat meal? I usually do sushi (shrimp tempura roll).


Sunday for dinner will be something along the lines of a steak boli... or some sort of pasta meal...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/22/12 11:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Looks like i'll be eating a cup of broccoli a day on this new program i'll be doing... i've NEVER eaten broccoli before and wondering how to prep it for eating... do you just hack off the flower part and eat that or can you eat parts of the stem as well...?

I will likely eat it raw, as cooked veggies don't excite me at all... also bought some baby spinach leaves, never eaten this crap before either... i ate one, tasted like grass not bad... LOL... always though Spinach was "yuck", but again i don't think i'll cook this and just throw it in with some lettuce and eat it as a salad with some cucumbers...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/23/12 12:32 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Steam the brocolli so it makes it easier to digest them. They're pretty bitter and hard to take down raw.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/23/12 11:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

2 Week Update

01/09/12: 177.4lbs
01/23/12: 174.7lbs


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/23/12 01:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Down 1.5 since last week.

199 LW
197.5 TW

I'll take it.

Blew off exercise this weekend because we were with friends out-of-state. Ate a couple of good meals, but "budgeted" during the day in anticipation of it (Weight Watchers method).

Gonna hammer today, though.


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01/23/12 06:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/23/12 06:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Go get it Phil! Just make sure there's still enough for me to cuddle with in Vegas.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/23/12 08:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2


25lbs in 3 weeks? Nice job man!


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01/23/12 09:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Go get it Phil! Just make sure there's still enough for me to cuddle with in Vegas.


Plenty to cuddle with AND be able to keep up with the shenanigans! \:D


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01/23/12 09:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2


25lbs in 3 weeks? Nice job man!


Thanks d00d.

Going to try and make myself proud...... this time.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 12:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2


25lbs in 3 weeks? Nice job man!



Thanks d00d.

Going to try and make myself proud...... this time.


W3RD--that is a beastly effort. Massive props.


b0ugie gon beat his wife
(Post Master Sr)
01/24/12 01:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Phil, maybe I missed your routine... What are you doing to lose so much weight? That's inspiring! I think I'm going to join this thread. i can stand to lose 20-30 lbs

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/24/12 04:15 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I am waaaaay late to this. I just had knee surgery on the 29th of Dec. I'm in PT and finally getting back to lifting. I'll measure myself and get this ball rolling!

Jrobski


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 04:24 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Wayne- Soy milk? I hope that's not yours

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Looks like i'll be eating a cup of broccoli a day on this new program i'll be doing... i've NEVER eaten broccoli before and wondering how to prep it for eating... do you just hack off the flower part and eat that or can you eat parts of the stem as well...?


You can eat the entire thing. I like to steam it, personally. Then, add in some kosher salt and fresh ground pepper. For fats, add a dash of olive oil or butter.

 Quote:
I will likely eat it raw, as cooked veggies don't excite me at all... also bought some baby spinach leaves, never eaten this crap before either... i ate one, tasted like grass not bad... LOL... always though Spinach was "yuck", but again i don't think i'll cook this and just throw it in with some lettuce and eat it as a salad with some cucumbers...


Baby spinach and tomatoes are tasty.

Get a tomato, and dice it. Two cloves of garlic, mince them. Take a big package of baby spinach, and put it in a medium hot pan with 2 teaspoons of olive oil along with the garlic. Add a teaspoon of kosher salt and black pepper to taste. Add in the tomatoes when the spinach starts to wilt. After a few minutes, it will be wilted down completely. Make sure you keep stirring the whole time so that it doesn't stick to the pan and burn. Once it's all wilted, you're good to go. It's fucking delicious.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 06:06 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
Wayne- Soy milk? I hope that's not yours


Just like I said on FB "my girlfriend is the one who drinks that shit" I hate soy, tofu, soy milk, soy beans. Quite frankly I think I'm allergic to it because my throat gets all itchy and my eyes turn red if I have anything with soy in it.

also



Still getting leaner, but my weight is hanging around 198-201 probably due to the gallon, gallon and a half of water I take in a day. Calories have been pretty close to 1500-1700 for the last week with a 200 cal discrepancy here and there.


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01/24/12 06:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: b0ugie
Phil, maybe I missed your routine... What are you doing to lose so much weight? That's inspiring! I think I'm going to join this thread. i can stand to lose 20-30 lbs


Well, I started by being really, REALLY fat. After that, I started by being under a reasonable caloric goal and being under it every day. After that I started doing a little walking. As the days progress, I do more and eat less. Seeing the drops each week is pretty motivating.

But seriously, take the fatness you're imagining and add 50%.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 06:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

lol, that's fat... ;\)

did you give a before weight...? glad to see you are onthe right track to health bro...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/24/12 06:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I feel like a stupid noob, but the last time I posted a pic up here I was drunk and don't remember teh login psswd. Also, the html address. But if you really want to protect your eyes, you will not provide the information! However, if you want to see the fatness, I need it.

shaftid
(Sr Member)
01/24/12 07:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
Whats a cheat meal?

This is pretty much my nightly nutrition setup. I'm actually pretty close to 1500-1700 a day I didn't realize how much less I've been ingesting.


Awesome photos man. Props.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 07:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
lol, that's fat... ;\)

did you give a before weight...? glad to see you are onthe right track to health bro...


Phil is a big boy, he's not close to dan turk big and I'm glad he's taking the steps to not reach that weight.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 08:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Phil is going to blow us all......










away with his transformation.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/24/12 09:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Here it is. Day 1

6'3"
41 y/o
270 lbs
48" waist
14" ra
13" la
17" neck

Still trying to figure out how to post pics


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01/24/12 09:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
lol, that's fat... ;\)

did you give a before weight...? glad to see you are onthe right track to health bro...


I did not. There may be some sort of reveal thread WHEN* I get to a comfortable size.

*no more ifs.


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01/24/12 09:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
lol, that's fat... ;\)

did you give a before weight...? glad to see you are onthe right track to health bro...


Phil is a big boy, he's not close to dan turk big and I'm glad he's taking the steps to not reach that weight.


I'd venture that I've surpassed The Turk in terms of real #'s. Though, I'm tall and able to carry it a little better.


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01/24/12 09:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Phil is going to blow us all......










after his transformation.


ftfy.


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 10:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

PHIL PHIL PHIL PHIL!!!!!

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/24/12 10:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Phil is going to blow us all......










after his transformation.


ftfy.



DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 12:23 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Day 2 of no carbs is complete, and i still feel pretty good... i weight trained monday, did cardio tonight (HIIT) 5 minute warm up, 5 minutes worth of 1 30 second sprint (11.0mph - not really a sprint but the treadmill at that speed is pretty scary), followed by a 30 second walk at 3.2 mph, then followed that with a 20 minute steady state cardio with my HR at 80% of max...

Weight train tomorrow morning, and I imagine maybe by the end of the day tomorrow I may start to feel a little more sluggish...? that'd be 72 hours with no carbs... i'll then have another lower intensity interval session Thursday night, take Friday off, a 45-60 minute steady state cardio session Saturday, then finish the week off with a full body circuit training session an hour or so before I get to have my cheat meal (steak stromboli)...!!! Looking forward to that... Hahahaha...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 12:26 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
(steak stromboli)...!!! Looking forward to that... Hahahaha...




gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 12:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Day 2 of no carbs is complete, and i still feel pretty good... i weight trained monday, did cardio tonight (HIIT) 5 minute warm up, 5 minutes worth of 1 30 second sprint (11.0mph - not really a sprint but the treadmill at that speed is pretty scary), followed by a 30 second walk at 3.2 mph, then followed that with a 20 minute steady state cardio with my HR at 80% of max...

Weight train tomorrow morning, and I imagine maybe by the end of the day tomorrow I may start to feel a little more sluggish...? that'd be 72 hours with no carbs... i'll then have another lower intensity interval session Thursday night, take Friday off, a 45-60 minute steady state cardio session Saturday, then finish the week off with a full body circuit training session an hour or so before I get to have my cheat meal (steak stromboli)...!!! Looking forward to that... Hahahaha...


I'm just baffled by how you have any energy at all to do this stuff with no carbs to fuel you. I couldn't do it.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 12:39 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well it takes about 72 hours to deplete your glycogen stores... the Sunday weight training will probably be a mother fucker, but saturday SS cardio shouldn't be a problem cause there won't be a great exertion...

Thursday night cardio could present some challenge as well, but it's a lower intensity than what i did tonight, so i think i can pull through that like a trooper...

i really wish i could have pushed myself harder tonight, but i just didn't have the wind... i was sucking air like a $2 whore on a corner full of dicks, and if i was sprinting on a track i may have pushed but fucking with that treadmill was too scary, cause one wrong step there and i'm eating teef...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 12:49 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
I'm just baffled by how you have any energy at all to do this stuff with no carbs to fuel you. I couldn't do it.


Sure you can!

Last fall, I did an hour of weight training, followed by 2 consecutive 90-minute soccer games completely fasted, and having had no carbs for a couple of weeks.

Your body is an amazing machine. It has ways to manufacture energy from just about any kind of nutrient you give it.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 12:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
well it takes about 72 hours to deplete your glycogen stores... the Sunday weight training will probably be a mother fucker, but saturday SS cardio shouldn't be a problem cause there won't be a great exertion...

Thursday night cardio could present some challenge as well, but it's a lower intensity than what i did tonight, so i think i can pull through that like a trooper...

i really wish i could have pushed myself harder tonight, but i just didn't have the wind... i was sucking air like a $2 whore on a corner full of dicks, and if i was sprinting on a track i may have pushed but fucking with that treadmill was too scary, cause one wrong step there and i'm eating teef...


Hehe, I've had to bail on a treadmill before. Was doing some sprints and caught an asthma attack at the end. I had just enough energy to jump up a bit and push my legs out to the side and grab the handrails. That was pretty scary.


b0ugie gon beat his wife
(Post Master Sr)
01/25/12 01:59 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: b0ugie
Phil, maybe I missed your routine... What are you doing to lose so much weight? That's inspiring! I think I'm going to join this thread. i can stand to lose 20-30 lbs


Well, I started by being really, REALLY fat. After that, I started by being under a reasonable caloric goal and being under it every day. After that I started doing a little walking. As the days progress, I do more and eat less. Seeing the drops each week is pretty motivating.

But seriously, take the fatness you're imagining and add 50%.


Congrats! I have new motivation to get back to my Baseball weight. I'm currently 6'2 1/2 and pushing 260lbs. My goal is to drop 30lbs by June.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/25/12 02:44 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm sitting here watching cooking shows....not cool. I can't do the no carb thing. I've done it before and it just makes me feel greazy. Maybe I ate too much bacon. Lol

Ended the day with 1776 calories. Seems like a decent amount to live off of.

On a side note, when do you guys weigh in ( those who are trying to lose weight)?


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 04:27 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I weigh in every day after I workout, like immediately afterwards. And based on how the number looks for the day I modify what I eat based off of that.

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 07:26 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
1800cals is too much IMO.

Just make sure you weigh in the same time of the day. When I did it I weighed in 3 times a week and first thing in the morning and naked after taking a piss.

I'd be killing it right now. 1000-1200cals a day and nearly zero carbs. The shitty feeling goes away after a week or do when the body adjusts. You'll learn a lot about your limits in that week but it'll be a great foundation for the future and pushing yourself.


Coming from a similarly sized fella, I think 16-1800 is okay. It's got to be a number he can achieve. What good is doing 1000-1200 cals a day if he gives up after a week? It needs to be maintainable.

I think you should have a lower target than 16-1800. Strive for less but 1800 calories is not bad for a 6'3" 275lb dude.


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 07:57 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm trying!!!!

I don't know how I'd get much lower than 1200 and still drink protein shakes. Friend me on MFP if you want to see my diet and crush my soul.


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 08:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

wolfsburg2

For the Biggest loser challenge, I weighed in at 271 naked this morning. Thats 19lbs bitches.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 02:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
I'm sitting here watching cooking shows....not cool. I can't do the no carb thing. I've done it before and it just makes me feel greazy. Maybe I ate too much bacon. Lol

Ended the day with 1776 calories. Seems like a decent amount to live off of.

On a side note, when do you guys weigh in ( those who are trying to lose weight)?


ideally you "should" only be weighing yourself weekly after a fasted state, so first thing in the morning would be perfect...

i know it's hard not to step on the scale daily but if you do make sure it's the same time each day...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 02:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: wolfsburg2
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
1800cals is too much IMO.

Just make sure you weigh in the same time of the day. When I did it I weighed in 3 times a week and first thing in the morning and naked after taking a piss.

I'd be killing it right now. 1000-1200cals a day and nearly zero carbs. The shitty feeling goes away after a week or do when the body adjusts. You'll learn a lot about your limits in that week but it'll be a great foundation for the future and pushing yourself.


Coming from a similarly sized fella, I think 16-1800 is okay. It's got to be a number he can achieve. What good is doing 1000-1200 cals a day if he gives up after a week? It needs to be maintainable.

I think you should have a lower target than 16-1800. Strive for less but 1800 calories is not bad for a 6'3" 275lb dude.


agreed, week after week of 1000 calories isn't good for you, especially with no or little carbs for weeks at a time... it is doable if you have a purpose, but you should be doing refeeds a couple days a week to trick your body...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/25/12 02:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Since this is only day two for me, I'm going to hold off weighing myself until Sunday. Every Sunday. I don't want to be a scale Nazi. I'm mainly doing this to fit my clothes better and feel better and to look good naked. That last one prolly will never be obtainable without penile extention surgery. ;\)

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 02:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

yeah and you'll get discouraged if you're down one day and up the next... which could happen at week end too, but then you know you need to decrease cals or up the cardio... i'd always opt for adding more work vs immediately dropping cals...

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/25/12 02:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I agree pal. I know there are areas where I can improve my diet. Less carbs, sauces, more veggies, leaner cuts of meat. But I am going to try to get to the gym 6 days p/wk. Even if I just do a light cardio workout one of those days, at least I'm doing something physical. Right now I'm on the wt loss kick. In a few months when I plateau, I'll get into the low carb OB1 crazed determination.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 02:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i personally wouldn't suggest that, but a 1 week no carb thing might be something you want to look into down the road... ;\)

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 04:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

that would stand to reason since i don't agree with yours either, obviously...

but everyone has the opportunity to go whatever route they believe will be the best option for them...

living in the low / no carb zone is NO FUN... it's boring, it sucks, and when you stay low carb your fat burning hormones drop way down too... when you deplete carbs you also lose alot of water... like i said, it has its place for a week and a day here and there throughout the week, but it's not a lifestyle...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 04:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

back down to 164...from 168ish. Have had a fantastic last 10 days or so of training too. That paired with really buckling down on my diet and I'm feeling great.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 05:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Point being there were times you "felt sluggish", albeit rare, and needed a carbo to get out of it...

Carbs are not the enemy, if not abused... carbs can actually help you burn fat as well...

and everyone "cheats" on thier "diets"... some plan for it, others do not...


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 05:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1

I'd like to hear of examples of low carb diets actually failing if done properly. I bet if you find one then I can show you a cheater.


I would say 99% of the time, (arbitrary percentage), it's the individual giving in to a craving. My menu has me between 20 and 40 grams of carbs per day. Sometimes less, sometimes more. I find it pretty easy to maintain because I plan all of my meals out for any given week. Plus since I am more interested in physiological gains from eating healthy and clean, I don't mind if my menu repeats itself or if the food I eat is without flair. The weight loss is just a byproduct. ;\)

Depending on how I weigh in this coming Sunday, I may add more carbs. I don't want to stall my weight loss by consuming too few carbs.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 06:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

if you're at all interested in building muscle, people need to eat carbs... if you're not then you can forgo them...

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 07:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

All I'll say is that the proof is in the pudding when you look at guys like HStreet and OB1. I know from experience that when you cut calories....the easiest and usually the first place they get cut is the carbs....not doing it consciously....but the stuff highest in carbs are the ones that we recognize as junk.

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01/25/12 08:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Adam7
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
it has its place for a week and a day here and there throughout the week, but it's not a lifestyle...


Wanna bet?


tree'd


Krys
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 08:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I have been eating lc for over 2.5 years. I lost 105 lbs in 10.5 months (70 of it in the first 5) and kept it off. I have dropped back to my low now that I'm off my steroids and other meds for my back. . Personally, my energy levels are better than before. Personal preference, but I feel best eating this way. I get more sluggish when I have a high carb day. I'm not hungry, have no cravings, and can manage my calories much easier when I keep the carbs low. It certainly isn't for everyone, but it can very easily be a lifestyle.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 09:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
If you're overweight your body already has carbs.


and those carbs can and will be depleted within 72 hours of starting a no carb diet...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 09:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
If you're overweight your body already has carbs.


and those carbs can and will be depleted within 72 hours of starting a no carb diet...
 Originally Posted By: Adam7
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
it has its place for a week and a day here and there throughout the week, but it's not a lifestyle...


Wanna bet?


No, I guess some people can do it, but sorry i like pizza, ice cream and other junk foods once in a while, so i guess it's not a lifestyle for me... ;\)


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 09:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
No, I guess some people can do it, but sorry i like pizza, ice cream and other junk foods once in a while...

Ah. So this entire time your argument was based on what you like to have every once in a while. Not what is true regarding science.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/25/12 09:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Krys
I have been eating lc for over 2.5 years. I lost 105 lbs in 10.5 months (70 of it in the first 5) and kept it off. I have dropped back to my low now that I'm off my steroids and other meds for my back. . Personally, my energy levels are better than before. Personal preference, but I feel best eating this way. I get more sluggish when I have a high carb day. I'm not hungry, have no cravings, and can manage my calories much easier when I keep the carbs low. It certainly isn't for everyone, but it can very easily be a lifestyle.


Define low please. Is that no bread, rice or potato? Carbs only from veggies? What about fruit?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 09:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Back 5
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
No, I guess some people can do it, but sorry i like pizza, ice cream and other junk foods once in a while...

Ah. So this entire time your argument was based on what you like to have every once in a while. Not what is true regarding science.


science...? your body does require some carbs, does it not...? for people like me that want to have a muscular physique, carbs are neccesary... and we may have much different definitions of what "muscular physique" is...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 10:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I like pizza and junk too. But we're talking (or at least I am) about someone making a change. Cake and Oreos are out of the picture for a long time.


after watching that underground wellness thing I have a different oulook on corn fructose syrup which is in fucking everything. a little bit of poison for a long time will kill you.

also, eating healthy doesn't have to suck.



Red snapper (marinade : lemon, olive oil*, garlic, rosemary, thyme), roasted veggies, bacon wrapped asparagus


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 10:38 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You're a pretty impressive cook, Wayne!

Is that bacon that's wrapped around your asparagus, though?

I did roundeye chicken and veg stir fry tonight. Tasted good but still very caucasian, despite throwing every Asian ingredient/condiment that I had in the wok.

Did some decent sprints during the mag trainer workout tonight, too.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/25/12 11:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm a man, my girlfriend cooks and buys groceries. you can't let me go to a store by myself, candybars and 30k fits all in my basket.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/25/12 11:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
You're a pretty impressive cook, Wayne!

Is that bacon that's wrapped around your asparagus, though?

I did roundeye chicken and veg stir fry tonight. Tasted good but still very caucasian, despite throwing every Asian ingredient/condiment that I had in the wok.

Did some decent sprints during the mag trainer workout tonight, too.


Lol that's exactly what I had tonight.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 01:13 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
I'm a man, my girlfriend cooks and buys groceries. you can't let me go to a store by myself, candybars and 30k fits all in my basket.


I cook like a motherfucker. My wife is the breadwinner and generally gets home late (in her $17.2k Fit ) . She can cook, but I'm around more. Hell, even when I wasn't around more, I still did most of the cooking.

Props to your chick, then.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 01:20 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
 Originally Posted By: g@mby
You're a pretty impressive cook, Wayne!

Is that bacon that's wrapped around your asparagus, though?

I did roundeye chicken and veg stir fry tonight. Tasted good but still very caucasian, despite throwing every Asian ingredient/condiment that I had in the wok.

Did some decent sprints during the mag trainer workout tonight, too.


Lol that's exactly what I had tonight.


I got some cues from the "Chinese Cooking Made Easy" chick, but they probably taste better when she does them. I freestyled, anyway.

Boneless chicken breasts pounded out and cut into thin strips, tossed in sherry, salt, pepper and cornstarch. Sauced with a mix of ketchup, sriracha, black bean sauce and soy. The ketchup/sriracha thing is one that I stole from the "Chinese Cooking..." chick.

Veg (broccoli, cole slaw [instead of shredding cabbage and carrots myself], red bell peppers, pea pods, sliced baby bella mushrooms, onions and a fuckton of garlic) tossed in a sauce of ketchup, soy, sriracha, oyster sauce, black bean sauce and rice wine vinegar. Thickened in the wok with a slurry of cold water and cornstarch. Finished with a DASH of sesame oil, salt and pepper.

The Chinese people of CSi may now shake their heads at me.



Krys
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 08:53 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Define low please. Is that no bread, rice or potato? Carbs only from veggies? What about fruit?


In my normal day to day, yes - no rice, no bread, no potato. I have berries pretty frequently, but don't have other fruit often at all outside of the occasional apple. My typical day is an iced coffee with truvia and unsweetened almond milk in the morning, big salad with tons of veggies with either grilled chicken or steak at lunch, and protein and veg for dinner. I'm not saying there isn't a time when I have bread or a baked potato, but it's not often or regular in any way. After cutting out wheat, I find that it really bothers my stomach when I do have it, so I really do try to avoid it. The only "starchy" thing I have even kind of frequently is sweet potato, and that's maybe once every other week or so. On a normal day, my carbs are under 40g, and cals are between 11-1300.

It's just easier for me to keep myself in line eating this way, and I feel much better. I've struggled with my weight my entire life, and this has really made maintaining a more normal weight easy for me for the first time ever. Like I said, it's not for everyone, but I like it.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 09:11 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

There is absolutely nothing wrong with bacon. *sadpanda* \:D

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 09:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Almost bit my screen when I saw the plate of food...looks great.


The bacon is uncured, nitrate free bacon about as healthy as you can get.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/26/12 09:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

mmmmmm Bacon



137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 10:27 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Almost bit my screen when I saw the plate of food...looks great.


The bacon is uncured, nitrate free bacon about as healthy as you can get.
That bacon is 50% fat or more. It ain't worth a fuck, nutritionally speaking. I don't care what it's free of. Each strip likely has 2-5 grams of saturated fat, 70-100 calories, with 50-90 of it being calories from fat, very little protein, and a ton of sodium with nothing much else to speak of.

There are worse things to eat...but not much worse.


I know you like arguing for the sake of arguing since I saw you go back and forth with diesel over nothing. Please get your facts straight, I don't know where you get your bacon but it's 70 calories for every 2 strips of bacon. I pay very close attention to whats in, and whats not in the food my girlfriend purchases.

fact is body needs fat, and the saturated fats in such a miniscule amount of bacon is fucking irrelevant. I could side with you if I was trying to drop to 135lbs like yourself but you're also making it sound like I am eating 500 calories worth of bacon daily.

This is my breakfast I had this morning, I don't eat a big breakfast like this every day much less do I even drink orange juice but today I did.


-that's roughly 16oz of organic orange juice 220cals
-2 large grade a cage free organic eggs 140cals 9g of fat and 3 sat fats 130 sodium
-about 5 slices of bacon (maybe it's 5 half pieces, but lets log it as 5 anyway)
175cals, 3g carbs, 11g fat, 4g sat fats 600g sodium
-avocado about 80cals 7g of fat 1g sat fats
-half of a banana
-some grapes about a cup
-half of an organic orange

totals out to 797cals, 103g carbs, 27g fat, 8g sat fats, 455g cholesterol, 767g of sodium.

The sodium intake is still lower than the calls although that's pretty much 40% of my calorie allotment for the day breakfast is normally kept around 400-600 cals and I try to make it the biggest meal of the day since I go to sleep right after I eat breakfast.

Again I'm not knocking you dude but stop making bacon seem like it's gay sex in the bible. Shit is not going to kill you, and world peace can be achieved due to bacon.

pictured with the asparagus (i weighed it) I ate a total of 3 stalks which was 93 grams.

Bacon Wrapped - Asparagus, 93 g 232cals 3g carbs 17g fat 6g sat fats 45g chol 951g sodium.

EVERYTHING on my diet is NOT made with salt, any salt that I ingest is from natural sodium in meats such as this, and I'm sure due to your tone you know why not completely eliminating salt from your diet is good for you if you're drinking a lot of water to flush out all of your proteins and such.

So everything at the end of the day even's itself out obi, don't worry I got this.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 10:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I would also like to add before you write your long reply to my post above that I am not trying to water gouge myself to 130lbs either I am focused on losing weight while putting on lean mass. I am doing a completely separate challenge outside of csi and so far I'm kicking everyone's ass. 14lbs down in 2 weeks inches down everywhere 15in neck, 36in waist, 40in hips (i have a big ass) vascularlarity up in the heezy (bicep veins starting to show *fuck yes*)

I am adhering to a paleolithic diet, not some 0 carb stored energy fasting experience. I eat everything portioned out and weighed to keep my metabolism at a high rate while eliminating any and ALL processed foods, salts, and unnatural chemicals.

also I thought I would throw this in here about nuts.

http://chriskresser.com/another-reason-you-shouldnt-go-nuts-on-nuts

so my point is, EVERYTHING IS FUCKING BAD FOR YOU.

I am not claiming to be an authority on anything, you keep using the term obese which to me is throwing insults in a nonchalant way. I am just posting my progress like the next guy, if I posted under a different user name I wouldn't get the same shit. I am sorry that I didn't spend 2 years becoming a home made biggest loser and now posting in every health thread I can about what you shouldn't be eating.

You know what made you fat, and I know what made me fat so lets focus on the positive and whats being done to reach our goals instead of trying to rub progress and success in each others faces.

kay? friends?

Also for anyone else interested to see what I ingest feel free to comment

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/waynetedwards


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 11:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I curse at you when I read your diet diary lol

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/26/12 01:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Quote:
stop making bacon seem like it's gay sex in the bible


Best quote yet.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 02:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Bacon = world peace.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 03:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
If you're overweight your body already has carbs.


and those carbs can and will be depleted within 72 hours of starting a no carb diet...
A fat belly loaded with fat cells (energy) ain't going anywhere in 72hrs.


last i checked fats were not carbs, which is what fuels your glycogen stores...

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I like pizza and junk too. But we're talking (or at least I am) about someone making a change. Cake and Oreos are out of the picture for a long time.


that's not true either... if you deplete and then carb cycle you can eat that shit too, and STILL lose fat...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Krys
 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Define low please. Is that no bread, rice or potato? Carbs only from veggies? What about fruit?


In my normal day to day, yes - no rice, no bread, no potato. I have berries pretty frequently, but don't have other fruit often at all outside of the occasional apple. My typical day is an iced coffee with truvia and unsweetened almond milk in the morning, big salad with tons of veggies with either grilled chicken or steak at lunch, and protein and veg for dinner. I'm not saying there isn't a time when I have bread or a baked potato, but it's not often or regular in any way. After cutting out wheat, I find that it really bothers my stomach when I do have it, so I really do try to avoid it. The only "starchy" thing I have even kind of frequently is sweet potato, and that's maybe once every other week or so. On a normal day, my carbs are under 40g, and cals are between 11-1300.

It's just easier for me to keep myself in line eating this way, and I feel much better. I've struggled with my weight my entire life, and this has really made maintaining a more normal weight easy for me for the first time ever. Like I said, it's not for everyone, but I like it.


wait, you have berries pretty frequently, have apples and sweet potatos...? almond milk...? doesn't sound "low carb" to me... low carb is < 20g really and while you say your "typical day" is around 40g, how many days does that number actually go up to 70,80,90...? I'm not saying what you're doing isn't working, i'm just reiterating that "low carbs" isn't a lifestyle many people are going to truly follow...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i don't know who said it, but the misnomer that "white carbs" are the devil is misinformed information as well...

there is a time and place for white potatoes, white rice etc even WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO BURN fat...

I find it kind of amusing that certain people think that just because something worked for them and made them lose a bunch of "weight" think they are an expert... anyone can lose weight, by doing any kind of new fangled crash or fad diet... your body doesn't know what is going on, but at some point it'll figure it out and your body will "get you back"...

i'm not here to "downtrod" anyone's methods for weight loss, but weight loss and not gaining LBW is not a recipe I'll have anything to do with...

at some point when you have acheived your weight loss goal, the whole no carb "lifestyle" makes little to no sense to me...


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Krys
 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Define low please. Is that no bread, rice or potato? Carbs only from veggies? What about fruit?


In my normal day to day, yes - no rice, no bread, no potato. I have berries pretty frequently, but don't have other fruit often at all outside of the occasional apple. My typical day is an iced coffee with truvia and unsweetened almond milk in the morning, big salad with tons of veggies with either grilled chicken or steak at lunch, and protein and veg for dinner. I'm not saying there isn't a time when I have bread or a baked potato, but it's not often or regular in any way. After cutting out wheat, I find that it really bothers my stomach when I do have it, so I really do try to avoid it. The only "starchy" thing I have even kind of frequently is sweet potato, and that's maybe once every other week or so. On a normal day, my carbs are under 40g, and cals are between 11-1300.

It's just easier for me to keep myself in line eating this way, and I feel much better. I've struggled with my weight my entire life, and this has really made maintaining a more normal weight easy for me for the first time ever. Like I said, it's not for everyone, but I like it.


wait, you have berries pretty frequently, have apples and sweet potatos...? almond milk...? doesn't sound "low carb" to me... low carb is < 20g really and while you say your "typical day" is around 40g, how many days does that number actually go up to 70,80,90...? I'm not saying what you're doing isn't working, i'm just reiterating that "low carbs" isn't a lifestyle many people are going to truly follow...


Low carb is relative to the individuals comfort level. Some people can handle 20 or less carbs a day. Others cannot. I typically range from >20-50 grams of carbs per day. It all depends on my menu for the week. Most people, who aren't dieting or worried about their weight, consume 200-300 grams per day.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

And Wayne that breakfast is pretty fucking monsterous IMO... LOL...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack

Low carb is relative to the individuals comfort level. Some people can handle 20 or less carbs a day. Others cannot. I typically range from >20-50 grams of carbs per day. It all depends on my menu for the week. Most people, who aren't dieting or worried about their weight, consume 200-300 grams per day.


ok, then i guess low carb is a completely relative term... i've been doing < 20g for the last 4 days and i expected to feel like shit after a few days but i still feel fine...? my weight training is not as good as it should be but that makes sense...

i will finish this deplete on Sunday and then have a cheat meal Sunday evening then will start some carb cycling over the next 2-3 weeks...


65_289
(Post Master Sr)
01/26/12 04:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

When I was trying to lose weight, I paid a pro (natural) bodybuilder to design a diet and exercise program for me. On average, I was eating over 2000 calories a day, with over 35% being from carbs. Some days I had 230+ grams of them, but I was still losing over 1 lb a week. I think the key things were not cheating, (I was allowed 1 cheat meal a week), only drinking zero-calorie drinks, the carbs were all complex, and the carbs and overall calories were cycled depending on the day of the week. I even ate a baked potato every Friday, rice several days a week, etc. Combine that with 4 days of heavy weights and 6 days of cardio, and boom.

I'm not sure what my point is, other than to relay my experience and say that I think different things work for different people, and experimentation is key.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack

Low carb is relative to the individuals comfort level. Some people can handle 20 or less carbs a day. Others cannot. I typically range from >20-50 grams of carbs per day. It all depends on my menu for the week. Most people, who aren't dieting or worried about their weight, consume 200-300 grams per day.


ok, then i guess low carb is a completely relative term... i've been doing < 20g for the last 4 days and i expected to feel like shit after a few days but i still feel fine...? my weight training is not as good as it should be but that makes sense...

i will finish this deplete on Sunday and then have a cheat meal Sunday evening then will start some carb cycling over the next 2-3 weeks...


Yeah, some people don't feel the effects of starting a low carb regimen. Me, I get a mild headache for the first 3 days and then a burst of energy around day 4. My carb bomb is usually in the form of sushi, about every 2 weeks. Then I start the cycle over again.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

your point was: like i've said over and over, carbs are not an "enemy"... some people just have their opinion and automatically crap on everything else...

some other people crap on intake of fats thinking that no fat diets are the way to go to... NOPE...

it's all about balance and knowing when to eat what... losing 1-2 pounds a week is ideal, but if you have alot to lose you'll lose more at the beginning, but that's not a pattern you want to keep...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 04:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack

Yeah, some people don't feel the effects of starting a low carb regimen. Me, I get a mild headache for the first 3 days and then a burst of energy around day 4. My carb bomb is usually in the form of sushi, about every 2 weeks. Then I start the cycle over again.


well i don't plan on doing another deplete until after i get to add a good 4-5 pounds of muscle, so maybe by mid summer i can do another deplete to really get some more definition after this fat loss attempt... i'll have 2-3 days a week where i go low carb, but other days where i'll be balanced and other days when my carbs are up (training days)...

my goal is for a lean muscular look, and not the BRad Pitt FC look, that's way too skinny, looks weak... i'm going for about 205-210 and around 9-10% BF... and i'm a long way from there...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 05:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel


last i checked fats were not carbs, which is what fuels your glycogen stores...


You can get glycogen from a multitude of sources, including fats and proteins.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 05:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
And Wayne that breakfast is pretty fucking monsterous IMO... LOL...



I could've done without the orange juice imo, kinda dicked myself out of a meal because of that but you know what I did 60 of these guys the night before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufaa41nkIP8 in between 90 ring dips (just like normal dips but on gymnastic rings) and front squatting my bodyweight 90kg 18 times, and coming in to do deadlifts(90kg 45 reps) and parallette pass throughs, and 20 second L hangs on a pullup bar today. So it's all good!

When you sleep you don't eat and your body needs fuel, most people pound a protein shake before going to sleep to hold them down at night or have cottage cheese or some shit. Since I can't do processed and I work grave my meals are a bit backwards.

I've done the same program that dude did a few posts up with minimal carbs, high protein, lots of water. Either way the point is to just speed up your metabolism by eating smaller meals portioned out and healthier. Once you eliminate shit with all of the chemicals, corns, starches, sugars the inflammation caused by those foods will go away and you will see a rapid loss of weight like I have and once you get to your body's natural composition it's a matter of just keeping up the diet and training regimine to keep losing the weight and seeing gains.

You guys are going to see some impressive shit from me come February around the last three weeks of this competition if I can even remotely get close to losing another 15-20lbs my love handles will be non existent.

But I'll show you guys by my progress pics instead of words since you've heard me sprout the same things before.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 06:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: DieZel


last i checked fats were not carbs, which is what fuels your glycogen stores...


You can get glycogen from a multitude of sources, including fats and proteins.


true but those sources aren't as redily available for conversion... if you eat a protien rich meal your body rleases glucagon which will call for an release stored fat to use as fuel... and all that fat isn't going to be converted to glycogen... and i don't recall the percentage but it's somewhere around 50% of protien can be converted...?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 06:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Wayne i don't doubt your methods, as there are a plethora of ways to get to an end point... it's staying there and being able to maintain over the long term...

I was at my best 5 years ago, and just kinda fell out of the whole gym scene... was playing more and more golf and just ended up eating what i wanted when i wanted... if i would have kept up with the gym that probably wouldn't have been a problem... you and i have similiar goals of losing fat AND building muscle... weight loss is easy, doing it and building muscle at the same time is a science...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 06:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

The only thing about sources other than fats and proteins is that they do not require oxygen to convert to glycogen. So, carbs are great for times when your body needs energy in short, quick bursts. Fat oxidation occurs over a little longer time period, but is present during exercise that lasts longer than about 3 minutes. The only thing that matters, really, is that those energy sources will convert to glycogen when they are needed, in the absence of carbs.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 06:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

but to free up the fat stores one of 2 things has to happen... you either must perform some sore of exercise, or you consume a protien rich meal absent of carbs to release fat stores...

so it's not as if your body is constantly freeing up fat to be converted...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 06:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Any caloric deficit will free fat stores to cover energy needs. It doesn't matter how that is achieved, nor do you have to eat a specific combination of foods to mobilize fat stores.

**DONOTDELETE**
()
01/26/12 07:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Please stop shitting on this thread.

Your way to success is not my way to success.

Also, you should stop citing bb.com forums broscience as weight loss gospel.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/26/12 08:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

first: i'm not "shitting on" this thread... If giving my opinion on methods is shitting on it, then i guess i am, but that's not my intention...

second: i've stated on plenty of occassions that one's program isn't for everyone...

third: and most importantly don't make accusations without facts to support it ... i'm not currently or ever have i been on bb.com... opinions are just that... if you want to call them broscience that's fine and if you don't like my method just gloss over it...

and the problem with low carbs as i have stated already is they can and will lower your fat burning hormones (mainly T3 and Lectin) that sends signals to your fat cells to release the goodies to your bloodstream, in turn you may end up just eating muscle tissue for energy...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 01:15 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

While it's true that leptin (not lectin, fwiw) plays a role in fat burning, and a low-fat, high-carb spike every once in a while will help keep it elevated, fat burning comes before muscle cannibalization in the hierarchy of energy. For it NOT to do so makes no evolutionary sense whatsoever. Why would you keep energy that you need in order to find food and burn off the muscle tissue that would use the energy allowing you to do so?

Now, they may happen simultaneously, and they can in certain circumstances. However, that doesn't happen if you are sending signals to your body that it needs to hang on to the muscle tissue and ONLY burn the fat. That doesn't require carbs. That requires resistance training, which stimulates mTOR production and AMPK activation.

There may come a point where your body fat is so low that you will burn muscle tissue, as you do need a certain body fat percentage just to maintain body function (usually no lower than 5-6%). In that instance (sub 5% over an extended period of time), you will burn muscle tissue instead of fat, but you will also be cannibalizing ANYTHING that the body can scavenge for energy.

That should be of ZERO concern to anyone that is above 8% bodyfat. Lower than that, and you can start becoming concerned about muscle cannibalization, as you will be approaching that point if you continue to shed bodyfat. That doesn't apply to most in this thread, though.


H Street NW
(Poster)
01/27/12 01:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

The biggest thing for me that made me realize cutting carbs out was beyond fine is the fact that they're legitimately not necessary for survival. You can absolutely survive on 0 carbs, and you can't say the same about fats and protein. Nonetheless, fiber is an ideal part of ones diet, so I'd get what it takes to reach about ~35G of fiber a day and that's it. I did this for about 3 months straight when I was cutting (no cheat days, period), and still got faster when running, and maintained strength in my lifts. If I wanted to, I could've easily continued on that way as well, but I like milk, and I've chosen to incorporate it back into my diet now that I'm less concerned on cutting weight and more looking to maintain where I'm at weight wise.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/27/12 01:42 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dude! Its only 24% away. I'm right around the corner. I better start planning now.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 01:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Damn...it feels so good when you get back on track with eating right. Even though I'm only 2 pounds lighter, everything feels more.....taut.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 02:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

oh 197lbs as of this morning. 15 lbs lost in 4 weeks.

Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 03:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
oh 197lbs as of this morning. 15 lbs lost in 4 weeks.

get it gurrll.


Ionfyst
(Post Master Sr)
01/27/12 03:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
Also for anyone else interested to see what I ingest feel free to comment

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/waynetedwards


LOL, thanks for the link. I'm so lazy when it comes to putting together meals that I've just been grilling chicken breasts and steaming broccoli nonstop. I'm going to pilfer all your meals now. \:D


tony9210
(Jr Member)
01/27/12 04:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Congrats to all of you and Keep up the hard work! It's worth it in the end!

 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Well, I started by being really, REALLY fat. After that, I started by being under a reasonable caloric goal and being under it every day. After that I started doing a little walking. As the days progress, I do more and eat less. Seeing the drops each week is pretty motivating.


Phil.. Keep it up! (if you can, but be safe about it) This is exactly what I did, and I'm down well over 100lbs. in the last year. As you said "Seeing the drops each week is pretty motivating"!


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 06:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
While it's true that leptin (not lectin, fwiw) plays a role in fat burning, and a low-fat, high-carb spike every once in a while will help keep it elevated, fat burning comes before muscle cannibalization in the hierarchy of energy. For it NOT to do so makes no evolutionary sense whatsoever. Why would you keep energy that you need in order to find food and burn off the muscle tissue that would use the energy allowing you to do so?

Now, they may happen simultaneously, and they can in certain circumstances. However, that doesn't happen if you are sending signals to your body that it needs to hang on to the muscle tissue and ONLY burn the fat. That doesn't require carbs. That requires resistance training, which stimulates mTOR production and AMPK activation.

There may come a point where your body fat is so low that you will burn muscle tissue, as you do need a certain body fat percentage just to maintain body function (usually no lower than 5-6%). In that instance (sub 5% over an extended period of time), you will burn muscle tissue instead of fat, but you will also be cannibalizing ANYTHING that the body can scavenge for energy.

That should be of ZERO concern to anyone that is above 8% bodyfat. Lower than that, and you can start becoming concerned about muscle cannibalization, as you will be approaching that point if you continue to shed bodyfat. That doesn't apply to most in this thread, though.


How can you say that when a study you used as evidence clearly showed a group (CD) lost weight AND lean body mass on a low calorie diet...? It's clear that the body will catabolize muscle tissue at time before going for fat... muscle tissues will break down to supply the brain and red blood cells with energy, fats will supply energy to the rest of your bodily processes...

surely if you are stimulating your muscles and consuming enough protien to feed them then there shouldn't be any concern with catabolization, but if you're just "dieting" and doing low intensity exercise like SS cardio then your body will revert to using muscle as fuel...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 06:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: H Street NW
The biggest thing for me that made me realize cutting carbs out was beyond fine is the fact that they're legitimately not necessary for survival. You can absolutely survive on 0 carbs, and you can't say the same about fats and protein. Nonetheless, fiber is an ideal part of ones diet, so I'd get what it takes to reach about ~35G of fiber a day and that's it. I did this for about 3 months straight when I was cutting (no cheat days, period), and still got faster when running, and maintained strength in my lifts. If I wanted to, I could've easily continued on that way as well, but I like milk, and I've chosen to incorporate it back into my diet now that I'm less concerned on cutting weight and more looking to maintain where I'm at weight wise.


everything you said is true... now I assume you did not build any new lean muscle mass during that cut, correct...? and yes it can be done, but as you said you like milk, so it wasn't a lifestyle you would choose to live long term or lifelong...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 06:51 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
oh 197lbs as of this morning. 15 lbs lost in 4 weeks.


what was your original starting weight again Wayne...?

i'm down a total of 24 so far going back to end of November... i was 252 at that point... but Jan 1 i was 243...

My goal was 215 by end of March but at this pace i may be able to update that to mid march, we shall see after this week and next...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 07:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Oh it works for weight loss, but that's not the body type i'm looking for...

and hell yeah i chunked out... i hadn't worked out in years and just ate all kinds of garbage whenever i wanted...

i'm confused by your numbers though, so what is your weight now...? 148...?


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 10:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Silock
While it's true that leptin (not lectin, fwiw) plays a role in fat burning, and a low-fat, high-carb spike every once in a while will help keep it elevated, fat burning comes before muscle cannibalization in the hierarchy of energy. For it NOT to do so makes no evolutionary sense whatsoever. Why would you keep energy that you need in order to find food and burn off the muscle tissue that would use the energy allowing you to do so?

Now, they may happen simultaneously, and they can in certain circumstances. However, that doesn't happen if you are sending signals to your body that it needs to hang on to the muscle tissue and ONLY burn the fat. That doesn't require carbs. That requires resistance training, which stimulates mTOR production and AMPK activation.

There may come a point where your body fat is so low that you will burn muscle tissue, as you do need a certain body fat percentage just to maintain body function (usually no lower than 5-6%). In that instance (sub 5% over an extended period of time), you will burn muscle tissue instead of fat, but you will also be cannibalizing ANYTHING that the body can scavenge for energy.

That should be of ZERO concern to anyone that is above 8% bodyfat. Lower than that, and you can start becoming concerned about muscle cannibalization, as you will be approaching that point if you continue to shed bodyfat. That doesn't apply to most in this thread, though.


How can you say that when a study you used as evidence clearly showed a group (CD) lost weight AND lean body mass on a low calorie diet...? It's clear that the body will catabolize muscle tissue at time before going for fat... muscle tissues will break down to supply the brain and red blood cells with energy, fats will supply energy to the rest of your bodily processes...

surely if you are stimulating your muscles and consuming enough protien to feed them then there shouldn't be any concern with catabolization, but if you're just "dieting" and doing low intensity exercise like SS cardio then your body will revert to using muscle as fuel...


I've always qualified that with the fact that you need to be resistance training as well. That study (and many others) showed that resistance exercise prevents muscle loss on a low-cal diet.

Otherwise, you're like a marathoner. The body doesn't really differentiate. A caloric deficit is a deficit, no matter how it's attained. So, it sheds unnecessary muscle. If you resistance train, the muscle is no longer "unnecessary" and is retained.

And fat STILL came before muscle loss in the CD group. They lost just as much fat as the RD group.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/27/12 11:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Actually IIRC correctly the group weight training did not lose as much weight as the non weight training group, but i hear ya on the need to resistance train... It's just hard for me to wrap my head around people simply wanting to lose weight vs. trying to add muscle as well, and a low cal diet just does not promote that...

i can understand it for people that are straight up overweight, but guys like Val doing a low cal diet just doesn't compute for me...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 12:12 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: 137
oh 197lbs as of this morning. 15 lbs lost in 4 weeks.
what was your original starting weight again Wayne...?

212lbs 29percent bodyfat (going to remeasure fat at the end of the challenge.)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 12:21 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

haha, i think i was 31 or 32%...? but that's going by one of those scales with the foot pads... no idea how accurate those are...

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 12:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I got mine pulled from 10 different places on my body and put into an excel formula

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 01:56 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Shit.....both tonights (9 miles) and last nights run (7.5 miles) were just hellish after being a couple days into my reduced calories. Throw an extra hour on the bike before each run and damn Im beat.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 03:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Actually IIRC correctly the group weight training did not lose as much weight as the non weight training group, but i hear ya on the need to resistance train... It's just hard for me to wrap my head around people simply wanting to lose weight vs. trying to add muscle as well, and a low cal diet just does not promote that...

i can understand it for people that are straight up overweight, but guys like Val doing a low cal diet just doesn't compute for me...


The CD group lost more "weight" because they lost LBM also. The RD group lost more fat, overall, and lost no LBM.


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 08:12 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Shit.....both tonights (9 miles) and last nights run (7.5 miles) were just hellish after being a couple days into my reduced calories. Throw an extra hour on the bike before each run and damn Im beat.

I understand what you guys are talking about now. I've lost 4 pounds this week (from 166-162) and I struggled through my workout on Friday. I shouldn't be at my plateau level yet and I had to really focus to get my last rep of 5x5 on bench and bent over row.

I think I can maintain my low calorie diet and still lift heavy...more of my calories as protein versus fruits and veggies?


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 09:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That will help, but you can't expect to cut calories and significantly increase your activity and have it go well. The more you do, the more you will have to eat, and Diezel is absolutely right about that.

A 5x5 routine plus some HIIT cardio a few times per week will be fine with a very low calorie diet, but much more than that, and you'll need some extra energy for sure. That's especially true once you really start getting to low bodyfat levels.


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 11:38 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm doing okay so far with strength and endurance though I am relatively low cal (for me).

I am only 8 days back in the gym, 1500 Cals a day, basketball and weight training. I moved okay weight today in my second chest workout since my hiatus.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 12:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It's not Monday (the regular update day) but I'm excited...173.9lbs this morning...new lowest ever! (Ok obviously not ever, but lowest I can remember seeing on a scale...probably lightest since I was 15-16 yrs old). I've actually UPPED my calories to 1500 (from 1200) but I guess the lifting I'm doing is really helping cut down the fat.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/28/12 12:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So Val, was your goal to lose weight first then put on muscle? And now that you are building muscle, what is your protein, fats, carb split? Good job btw. Loosin weight like a Voss!

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 01:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Main goal was to lose fat, secondary was to gain muscle...was really sort of trying to do both at the same time (and am still trying to do that).

I don't monitor my fats and carbs, just my calories and protein. Calories I stay at 1400 - 1500 per day and protein 170g - 200g per day.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/28/12 01:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

200g p/dy? \:o

talk about shitting bricks!


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 02:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
200g p/dy? \:o

talk about shitting bricks!


Actually it's been weird lately...I don't shit for like 3 days, but when I do, I get like a really bad stomach ache right before and then boom! But it's really soft and fills the toilet...like, above water level. Ok...too much info?

I eat a lot of blackberries too which have a lot of fiber, so I think that's what's causing that.


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 03:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Main goal was to lose fat, secondary was to gain muscle...was really sort of trying to do both at the same time (and am still trying to do that).

I don't monitor my fats and carbs, just my calories and protein. Calories I stay at 1400 - 1500 per day and protein 170g - 200g per day.

You're the Ares of fitness.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 03:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Not sure what that means. \:\(

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 03:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
200g p/dy? \:o

talk about shitting bricks!


Actually it's been weird lately...I don't shit for like 3 days, but when I do, I get like a really bad stomach ache right before and then boom! But it's really soft and fills the toilet...like, above water level. Ok...too much info?

I eat a lot of blackberries too which have a lot of fiber, so I think that's what's causing that.


That's not healthy. You should be shitting daily. If your bowel movements aren't regular then cut back on the protein.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 04:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
200g p/dy? \:o

talk about shitting bricks!


Actually it's been weird lately...I don't shit for like 3 days, but when I do, I get like a really bad stomach ache right before and then boom! But it's really soft and fills the toilet...like, above water level. Ok...too much info?

I eat a lot of blackberries too which have a lot of fiber, so I think that's what's causing that.


That's not healthy. You should be shitting daily. If your bowel movements aren't regular then cut back on the protein.


I would up the fiber instead.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 05:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
200g p/dy? \:o

talk about shitting bricks!


This is so typically CSi. If 50-60g is good for the day, 200 FUCKING GRAMS is t3H BETTaRZZZ!!!!1!!

That cannot be healthy.

Anyway, it was "warm" today (45 in the dead of winter in RI is "warm"), so I got out on my bike. Did 32.07 miles in 2:07 at an average speed of 15.15mph.

It was windy, so on the way out, it was long stretches of 19-20mph dominance in the big ring (fast for me) with the tailwind and then long stretches of 13-15mph slugging out the cold headwind.

Proteined up in the car (chocolate milk--widely agreed on as the best recovery drink for cycling). Got home and did the mini cycling workout on my Yoga For Athletes DVD.

I feel fucking AWESOME right now. Going out for dinner, but planning to be reasonable. I didn't have a highly caloric day, so there's a bit of wiggle room tonight, considering that ride burned about 1800 calories. \:\)

I can't remember the last time I felt this good physically. Pretty stoked. \:\)


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/28/12 06:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
200g p/dy? \:o

talk about shitting bricks!


This is so typically CSi. If 50-60g is good for the day, 200 FUCKING GRAMS is t3H BETTaRZZZ!!!!1!!

That cannot be healthy.

Anyway, it was "warm" today (45 in the dead of winter in RI is "warm"), so I got out on my bike. Did 32.07 miles in 2:07 at an average speed of 15.15mph.

It was windy, so on the way out, it was long stretches of 19-20mph dominance in the big ring (fast for me) with the tailwind and then long stretches of 13-15mph slugging out the cold headwind.

Proteined up in the car (chocolate milk--widely agreed on as the best recovery drink for cycling). Got home and did the mini cycling workout on my Yoga For Athletes DVD.

I feel fucking AWESOME right now. Going out for dinner, but planning to be reasonable. I didn't have a highly caloric day, so there's a bit of wiggle room tonight, considering that ride burned about 1800 calories. \:\)

I can't remember the last time I felt this good physically. Pretty stoked. \:\)


I need to get a road bike. I've been doing stationary bike at the gym because that currently is the only cardio that I can do that doesn't bother my knee. But there's nothing like getting out in the elements and gettin your sweat on.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 06:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16

I need to get a road bike. I've been doing stationary bike at the gym because that currently is the only cardio that I can do that doesn't bother my knee. But there's nothing like getting out in the elements and gettin your sweat on.


DOO EET!!!

It's pretty addictive.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/28/12 06:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Although, just the other day I was on minute 50 of 60 on the bike and my taint was howlin'. It was not sweet.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 06:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Although, just the other day I was on minute 50 of 60 on the bike and my taint was howlin'. It was not sweet.


In regular shorts with underwear, that will happen.

On a properly-fitted road bike with a proper seat (one with a relief channel down the middle), padded shorts (with no underwear) and chamois cream in the liner, no chafing will take place.

Even when I ride my mag trainer indoors, I still wear cycling shorts. I skip the chamois cream, though. I don't get chafed in an hour.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/28/12 06:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Sounds like I'm in to spend a lota cashola


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 06:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Yes. Road biking is expensive stuff.



w3rd

Not like mountainbikes are cheap--and you're more likely to break stuff on a mountainbike (if you're doing it right)

I started with an entry-level $600 road bike. I've upgraded just about everything on it at this point. I'm a little sentimental about the frame--that's why I didn't just buy another bike (besides, I now have 2 road bikes, a mountainbike and a singlespeed road bike).

There are great deals to be found on craigslist, though, assuming you can find your proper size.

That said, the new Shimano Tiagra component group is VERY nice. Trickledown technology has been very good to Shimano's lower end stuff. The new Tiagra is essentially the old 105 (which is a nice upper-midrange component group) and you can probably get a decent Tiagra-equipped aluminum bike for around $800.

Cheaper to buy good stuff up front than to upgrade. Especially if you don't know how to wrench on your own bike.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/28/12 06:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Size is the problem. I'm not sure how to size myself. I'm not Art huge but at 6'3", I know my options for CL are limited.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 07:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

http://bicycling.about.com/od/howtoride/a/bike_sizing.htm

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit

http://www.ebicycles.com/bicycle-tools/frame-sizer/road-bike

People can get all CSi/elitist about being professionally fitted, but that's really only become a buzzword in the last 10 years or so. It can be done by trial and error pretty easily in terms of seat height. Stems of different lengths are cheap and easy to swap out.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 08:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

don't just assume cause you're taller that you automatically need a huge ass bike...

i was misfitted originally by an idiot that didn't know what he was doing... stuck me on a 60cm frame...

i felt the bike was too big for me soon after i got it, and went to another shop that told me whoever sold me that bike was "an idiot" as i referenced already...

i'm 6'2" and was fit to a 56cm bike... bike felt so much better and allowed me to ride longer with less strain on my back and shoulders... i was stretched out so far on the 60cm...

go to a reputable shop if you venture into this arena...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 08:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
http://bicycling.about.com/od/howtoride/a/bike_sizing.htm

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit

http://www.ebicycles.com/bicycle-tools/frame-sizer/road-bike

People can get all CSi/elitist about being professionally fitted, but that's really only become a buzzword in the last 10 years or so. It can be done by trial and error pretty easily in terms of seat height. Stems of different lengths are cheap and easy to swap out.


go get fit... if you go to a good shop they'll do it for free or a minimal charge if you buy the bike from them... they'll setup all your measurements... trial and error is a waste of fucking time... do it right, and then make small adjustments with the proper equipment from the start...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/28/12 10:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Good stuff. When I get back to work and make a little OT, I'll look into it.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/28/12 10:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Wooooo, passed a good teswt. Went over to the inlaws for pizza tonight and only had 2 slices. Normally I'd have no problem throwing down 4 or 5.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/29/12 01:32 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I had a protein shake for dinner. Bite me, skinny!

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 01:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Wooooo, passed a good teswt. Went over to the inlaws for pizza tonight and only had 2 slices. Normally I'd have no problem throwing down 4 or 5.


Whats pizza chris?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 08:45 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

No pizza in a year and a half...? Oh HELL NO...

I still can't wrap my head around not being able to eat certain things once in awhile. Nope, can't do it... Short term I could do it... Like if I was really trying to drop that last 5 pounds of fat to bring out the bottom part of a 6 pack but that's about it...


slackereg6
(Member)
01/29/12 10:47 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Start 162.0
2 weeks 163.6 up 1.6
4 weeks 162.4 up 0.4

I am 5 weeks into Marathon training and finally hitting the gym twice a week consistently again. I am working on my calorie intake but am having trouble balancing the losing weight and not having enough energy for the runs/workouts.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 02:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Weighed in at 208 today.

Weight loss stalled a bit due to my over indulgence of vodka during my league nights last week. So no more alcohol for me until this challenge is over with. \:D


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 02:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Wooooo, passed a good teswt. Went over to the inlaws for pizza tonight and only had 2 slices. Normally I'd have no problem throwing down 4 or 5.


Whats pizza chris?


It's a place on 2nd Street called Domenicos. Itallian style so it's nice thin crust and not a lot of cheese.




Fuck me....the remains of this cold and the Santa Ana winds (dry heat wind conditions that blow in from the desert) has my head in a fog. \:\(

Good news is I've been rockin my pullups and pushups every day. Probably around 100 of each every day. Started doing crunches the other day but gave myself a damn rugburn on my ass crack so I have to take a break, lol.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/29/12 02:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

yoga mat

**DONOTDELETE**
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01/29/12 02:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Add weight to those, chris. you'll see better progress.

Along the same vein, friday and yesterday were major NSV (non-scale victory) for me. Friday I came in at <1000 cals. 1k is 1/3 of my daily allowance. Then yesterday morning I was fiending for a major binge. Also there was a UFC on last night, which is also a binge trigger for me. I got to the store and stood looking at the chips and soda for a while. Decided it wasn't worth it and grabbed a pack of coke zero and headed over to produce. Bought $70 worth of salad fixin's, berries and coke zero.

Anecdote from last night: I got high and started making my salad. Romain, Arugila, cucumber, bell pepper, celery and olives. I decided to call it the Ruby Rhod Salad.... because it was Super Green and a little black.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/29/12 03:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I don't know how you can get high and eat healthy. I've only gotten high a few times but when I did nothing could stop me from eating everything in sight!

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 03:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

don't think weed will hurt anyone dieting to be honest, just eventual lung cancer.

Serendipitous
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 04:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah, good luck controlling your portions after a few tokes

**DONOTDELETE**
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01/29/12 04:10 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
I don't know how you can get high and eat healthy. I've only gotten high a few times but when I did nothing could stop me from eating everything in sight!


It hasn't been a problem for me (since I've started the challenge). Change of mindset helps a bunch.

 Originally Posted By: 137
don't think weed will hurt anyone dieting to be honest, just eventual lung cancer.


Colon Cancer will get me long before that.

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1


I suggest you find a better source of information.

 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous
Yeah, good luck controlling your portions after a few tokes


Hasn't been a problem. I guess 2lbs of salad helps with that though.


Serendipitous
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 06:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

If you can keep it up and only eat big salads every time you get the munchies, more power to you. Smoking is going to make it harder on you, and you should set yourself up for success.

And watch the dressing!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 10:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom


Good news is I've been rockin my pullups and pushups every day. Probably around 100 of each every day. Started doing crunches the other day but gave myself a damn rugburn on my ass crack so I have to take a break, lol.


I'll 2nd the yoga mat. Good to have one on hand even if you don't do yoga (which you most certainly should).

However, I've always been told to rest muscle groups a day before re-working them.

Personally, I do pullups OR pushups on a given day. Never both, never two in a row. Allows the respective muscles to heal. I've always followed the "back/bi's" on one day "chest/tri's" on the other day. I'm willing to bet that you'll get better results breaking things up.

Oh yeah--I'm down another 2 lbs. 195.5 today, down from 197.5. 1/2 a pound away from dropping 10 since I started on 1/2/12.



137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 10:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
A better source? You don't have them currently?


http://www.manboobsguide.com/man-boobs-causes/gynecomastia-and-marijuana/

 Quote:
If you are a user of marijuana and you have gynecomastia, your drug use may be the cause. Medical studies show that the effects of cannabis are that the levels of testosterone in the body decreases. Marijuana contains phytoestrogens that essentially limits the production of testosterone inside the body. Since the levels of testosterone are lower, an imbalance in the testosterone to estrogen ratio develops which leads to gynecomastia


My dad has been smoking weed for the last 32 years of my life and then some and has NEVER had man boobs. Again unless you have personal experience with something don't go reaching on google for stuff. My brother he doesn't have manboobs and he's been smoking weed for a super long ass time too.

And this is the youngest, also a huge pothead and eats nothing but fast food.



gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 10:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137

And this is the youngest, also a huge pothead and eats nothing but fast food.



a) He looks like he's scrawny and a very hard gainer

b) It'll catch up to him. Eventually, treating yourself like shit always does.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/29/12 11:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've smoked weed, always had man breasts. I did not increase a cup size due to tree's more the pizza and hot wings that helped that.

skierd
(Post Master Sr)
01/29/12 11:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

\:\(



Goal: Get under 200 pounds again. And stay there. At the end of 2010 I got under 200 but let it slip back up over the last year. I'm still down from my all time high of 275-280iah back in 2005, and I never want to be that fat again. Mainly want to be in better shape for riding dirt bikes and not feeling like a winded piece of shit after a hard ride. I'd like to have a base level of fitness by July 1 that I would feel ok taking boxing lessons and/or riding a hare scramble.

Weight: 224.5 pounds

Gut: 44.5"

Chest: 44.5"

Arm: 14"

If I stop posting in this thread, NevadaHole me to death and make sure I stay on track. For example, if I make a thread about another motorcycle test ride or something, ask me how its gonna carry the extra fat and how much better it will handle when I'm not a fat body etc etc.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/29/12 11:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom


Good news is I've been rockin my pullups and pushups every day. Probably around 100 of each every day. Started doing crunches the other day but gave myself a damn rugburn on my ass crack so I have to take a break, lol.


I'll 2nd the yoga mat. Good to have one on hand even if you don't do yoga (which you most certainly should).

However, I've always been told to rest muscle groups a day before re-working them.

Personally, I do pullups OR pushups on a given day. Never both, never two in a row. Allows the respective muscles to heal. I've always followed the "back/bi's" on one day "chest/tri's" on the other day. I'm willing to bet that you'll get better results breaking things up.

Oh yeah--I'm down another 2 lbs. 195.5 today, down from 197.5. 1/2 a pound away from dropping 10 since I started on 1/2/12.



Good job man. What's your end goal?


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 01:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/6040989

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 05:26 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012


waist 36in (dropped down from 40in)
hips 41in (roughly the same down and up, have a ba-dunk-a-dunk.)
neck 14.5in (was around 16in)
thighs 25.5in (dropped down from 27in)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 07:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well I weighed in this morning... I was 234.2 last Monday, and am down to 226.2 this morning so that was an 8lb drop this week...

I'll be adding some carbs back in and ratcheting up my weight training... Would like to start adding some size while still burning. Looking to lose 3-4 this week...


**DONOTDELETE**
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01/30/12 09:24 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2
Week 4 (1/30): -8.8


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01/30/12 09:26 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Serendipitous


And watch the dressing!


That is the source of my power.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 12:24 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137

waist 36in (dropped down from 40in)
hips 41in (roughly the same down and up, have a ba-dunk-a-dunk.)
neck 14.5in (was around 16in)
thighs 25.5in (dropped down from 27in)


Nice job Wayne....you can really see the transformation from the first pic to the last. Keep it up!


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 12:25 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2
Week 4 (1/30): -8.8


Holy fuck Phil! Way to kick ass. I think we're gonna have to start looking for a sprint tri for you sooner than we though. \:D


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 12:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom


Good news is I've been rockin my pullups and pushups every day. Probably around 100 of each every day. Started doing crunches the other day but gave myself a damn rugburn on my ass crack so I have to take a break, lol.


I'll 2nd the yoga mat. Good to have one on hand even if you don't do yoga (which you most certainly should).

However, I've always been told to rest muscle groups a day before re-working them.

Personally, I do pullups OR pushups on a given day. Never both, never two in a row. Allows the respective muscles to heal. I've always followed the "back/bi's" on one day "chest/tri's" on the other day. I'm willing to bet that you'll get better results breaking things up.

Oh yeah--I'm down another 2 lbs. 195.5 today, down from 197.5. 1/2 a pound away from dropping 10 since I started on 1/2/12.





Yeah, I'm gonna take your advice and alternate days. I love what they're doing for me though....everything in my upper body just feels tighter and more defined.

Oh yeah...I ran 11 miles home from the beach yesterday, shirtless...and got hooted at by two different cars full of girls. \:D
Nothing like running along the coast in 75 degree sunny weather at the end of January.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/30/12 12:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You're killing me Chris. Fortunately, I'm headed for Mexico in three weeks. Finally get some sun on my body! Then it will be ready.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 12:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom

Yeah, I'm gonna take your advice and alternate days. I love what they're doing for me though....everything in my upper body just feels tighter and more defined.

Oh yeah...I ran 11 miles home from the beach yesterday, shirtless...and got hooted at by two different cars full of girls. \:D
Nothing like running along the coast in 75 degree sunny weather at the end of January.


You'll still feel tight. Maybe ramp up each exercise 50-100 reps on the days you do them. You'll feel it. Granted, when you first start doing them, you feel really shredded--then your body gets used to it.

As for running--props on getting chick attention. That's still the greatest thing in the world!!!

See details of my cold bike ride to feel me hating on the weather that enabled your shirtless run. Fuckin' SoCal...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 12:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
You're killing me Chris. Fortunately, I'm headed for Mexico in three weeks. Finally get some sun on my body! Then it will be ready.


Haha....I'm at the 2 month countdown for our adults only trip to Hawaii....I didn't lose my tan completely, but I'm definitely not the bronzed god I was during the summer. \:D My main goal is to be able to play out on the beach/by the pool without getting a sunburn the very first day. \:D

Plus....my wife works with/for a bunch of really attractive people so I gotta do what I can to polish this turd. :laugh1;


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 12:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom

Yeah, I'm gonna take your advice and alternate days. I love what they're doing for me though....everything in my upper body just feels tighter and more defined.

Oh yeah...I ran 11 miles home from the beach yesterday, shirtless...and got hooted at by two different cars full of girls. \:D
Nothing like running along the coast in 75 degree sunny weather at the end of January.


You'll still feel tight. Maybe ramp up each exercise 50-100 reps on the days you do them. You'll feel it. Granted, when you first start doing them, you feel really shredded--then your body gets used to it.

As for running--props on getting chick attention. That's still the greatest thing in the world!!!

See details of my cold bike ride to feel me hating on the weather that enabled your shirtless run. Fuckin' SoCal...



Yeah, it's easy enough to add some on because I pretty much do them throughout the morning. The bar is in the entry from the living room to the bedroom/bathroom, so I pretty much just knock out a set whenever I walk under it. Doing my househusband chores means I pass under it a lot!


I don't mean to rub in the nice weather. \:D You guys have had a pretty mild winter so far right? Guess we all need to count our blessings. ;\)


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 12:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I feel ya.

I'm looking forward to getting some female attention when I'm poolside over the summer. I'm married (duh) so it'll just be for the satisfaction of knowing that women still want to bang me. \:D

I just have to keep the hideous cyclist tan in check.


M
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 01:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

229.0 - Monday, January 2, 2012
219.4 - Monday, January 9, 2012
217.8 - Monday, January 16, 2012
221.2 - Monday, January 23, 2012
213.6 - Monday, January 30, 2012

I’ve lost 15.4 pounds in 4 weeks. There was a bump up between week 2 and 3 because I started exercising like a beast, and my body was retaining the blood, water and food it needed to manage through that. I leveled out though, and my losses accelerated over the past week.

I’ll post a more comprehensive before and after in a few more weeks, including pictures and vitals, but the changes have been nothing short of awesome.

It’s all pretty simple too. I’m eating between 1,200 and 1,500 calories a day (300 for breakfast, 500 for lunch, and 600 for dinner); tons of fish, seafood, chicken, vegetables, fruits and complex carbs; no junk food, snacking, deserts, or drinking; and a food mix of protein 40%, complex carbs 30%, fat 30%.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 01:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice job dude!

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/30/12 03:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: M
229.0 - Monday, January 2, 2012
219.4 - Monday, January 9, 2012
217.8 - Monday, January 16, 2012
221.2 - Monday, January 23, 2012
213.6 - Monday, January 30, 2012

I’ve lost 15.4 pounds in 4 weeks. There was a bump up between week 2 and 3 because I started exercising like a beast, and my body was retaining the blood, water and food it needed to manage through that. I leveled out though, and my losses accelerated over the past week.

I’ll post a more comprehensive before and after in a few more weeks, including pictures and vitals, but the changes have been nothing short of awesome.

It’s all pretty simple too. I’m eating between 1,200 and 1,500 calories a day (300 for breakfast, 500 for lunch, and 600 for dinner); tons of fish, seafood, chicken, vegetables, fruits and complex carbs; no junk food, snacking, deserts, or drinking; and a food mix of protein 40%, complex carbs 30%, fat 30%.


Awesome dude. This is a similar eating program that I'm trying to do. Probably not as consciously as you are with the splits, but I'll start keeping track. Like you said though, lots of veggies, chicken, fish and fruits.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 03:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

just remember when you eat fruit or carbs of any kind to eat a protien source with it... if you're trying to lose weight, eating carbs ALONE is one of the worst things you can do...

M
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 04:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I don't want to oversell this. I put much more effort into making sure my caloric intake is well controlled. The splits get managed, but not with the same rigor. The reality is at 1,200 to 1,500 calories a day with a balance diet it's impossible to not lose weight.

The key for me is my dieting needs to be sustainable. I could pull off a fad diet, limit myself to cottage cheese and grilled chicken, drink liquids, eat pounds of broccoli, etc. for a few weeks and maybe a few months. However, that shit is boring, monotonous, draining, not fun, and most importantly non-sustainable long-term.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/30/12 04:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



My thoughts exactly!!!


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 04:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Agreed whole heatedly with your last sentiment...

I guess I will upload my before and current pics with some trepidation, cause DAMN I WAS FAT... Still am but I'm making good progress so fuck it...

Long way to my goal but I'll make it...




Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/30/12 04:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What is the time frame between pics? Nice work! (nohomo)

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 04:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

First pic is around christmas and the last one was this weekend...

So about 5 or 6 weeks...


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 07:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Brave pic post diesel!!! I am too skurred to post mine.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/30/12 07:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: wolfsburg2
Brave pic post diesel!!! I am too skurred to post mine.


Dooooooeeeeeeeeiiiit! We are not here to judge only encourage. Plus you lost 20 lbs. That's a big number!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 07:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: wolfsburg2
Brave pic post diesel!!! I am too skurred to post mine.


Brave indeed, but bah--don't be skurred 'bout nuthin' here.

I agree with M on the fad diet thing. Weight Watchers is so successful because you don't have to deny yourself much variety-wise--just portion-wise. I'm not doing weight watchers, but my wife's insane sustained success with it (2 years+ now, down 89 lbs) has allowed me to incorporate some of their philosophies.

I'm updating my personal thread in a sec...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 08:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I know I still have a long way to go but was proud enough of my progress to post my before. Lol. Crazy how the body can change in a short period of time.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 09:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom


Nice job Wayne....you can really see the transformation from the first pic to the last. Keep it up!


thanks, weighed in at 195 today, that's a total of 17lbs lost.


Serendipitous
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 10:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Diezel, I'm not sure if I'm more impressed with your progress in such a short time or the fact that you made a post using periods instead of ellipses.

Either way, awesome job.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/30/12 11:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

LOL, didn't even realize i ommitted them... ;\)

but thanks!!!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 12:56 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I tend to go heavy on them, too...

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 11:19 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

3 Week Update

01/09/12: 177.4lbs
01/23/12: 174.7lbs
01/31/12: 173.3lbs


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 04:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well..the scale has started moving in the direction I want. \:D Started at 169 or so the first week of January. It might just be psychological, but I really feel like my pullup/pushup routine is really paying off. MY upper body looks more defined for sure. I think I'll be really, really happy when I get to 155.

Bonus is that my run times have been coming way down. Going for a 20 minute 5k this sunday.

Today:



and a current pic:


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 04:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yup getting sexier bro montana

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 05:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

tearing it up bro...

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 07:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock

I would up the fiber instead.


Speaking of which, I found these great english muffins to replace the bread I've been eating.
They are Thomas Light Multi-Grain english muffins and have 100 calories, 5g protein and 8g fiber...compared to the Pugliese bread I was having which was 90 calories, 3g protein and 0g of fiber. They taste great too, especially if you toast them a little.

Replacing the two slices of bread I was previously having will boost my daily fiber by 16g and I'll be having ~36g per day compared to 20g per day before. My recommended fiber intake for my age/height is 28g/day. Shouldn't have anymore crapping problems I wouldn't think. \:\)


137
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 08:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

haha chris you look sickly haha.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 08:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: Silock

I would up the fiber instead.


Speaking of which, I found these great english muffins to replace the bread I've been eating.
They are Thomas Light Multi-Grain english muffins and have 100 calories, 5g protein and 8g fiber...compared to the Pugliese bread I was having which was 90 calories, 3g protein and 0g of fiber. They taste great too, especially if you toast them a little.

Replacing the two slices of bread I was previously having will boost my daily fiber by 16g and I'll be having ~36g per day compared to 20g per day before. My recommended fiber intake for my age/height is 28g/day. Shouldn't have anymore crapping problems I wouldn't think. \:\)


Go for another source of fiber. Personally, I'm not a fan of any food with the word "light" on the label. There may be less calories but there's usually other processed or highly modified shit.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 09:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I just made up my split for the next 8 weeks... i had only been doing a 3 day a week split but am ratcheting up the intensity, and going to be hitting the gym 4 or 5 days a week... and doing cardio 3 days a week on top of the 15-20 mintues i typically do post workout...

i'm kinda getting sick of this diet i'm on and want to consume more foods i like... i figure i burn more cals I can comsume more of the shit i like as long as i keep my macros in order within each meal...

looking forward to really getting into my workouts again... i've been going through the original Fitness thread and didn't realize that i made those awesome gains on my own split and NOT the 5x5... i did the 5x5 after i made my gains... so i'm gonna go back to that, tear up the cardio and just eat instead of all this green shit... ;\) still eat a salad once a day and eat some more greens but gotta get some carbs too...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 10:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: 137
haha chris you look sickly haha.
Sickly? Hell no...he looks great.


Yeah, I was gonna say.....in the endurance world "sickly" means you still have 10 pounds to lose. When people ask what kind of cancer you have you've reached your goal weight.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
01/31/12 11:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
01/31/12 11:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Alright peeps, month one is done.

Post your results and see who is Jan's winner.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 12:44 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: 137
haha chris you look sickly haha.
Sickly? Hell no...he looks great.


Knowing Chris at his old weight and seeing him at 160 and how much head fat he's lost and little muscle mass at all is what a concerned mother would say. LOL!

 Quote:
Yeah, I was gonna say.....in the endurance world "sickly" means you still have 10 pounds to lose. When people ask what kind of cancer you have you've reached your goal weight.


I'd laugh if Ken99si didn't just pass away from cancer. =(


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 01:22 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
haha chris you look sickly haha.


Yeah, I was gonna go with "gaunt".

That said, you're starting to look like a proper triathlete. Nice job cutting down. Holy crap!

Way cheaper than subtracting weight from your bike. \:\)


SelfEntitledProdigy
(Post Master)
02/01/12 02:05 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

** Update**
Update as of 1 FEB 12
Age:28
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 108.5 kilo/238.7 lbs to 1 Feb 12 @ 102 Kilo / 224.4 lbs
Neck:19" to 18"
Waist: 41.0" to 39.5"
Chest: 46" same
Arms: 17" left 17.5 right / 17 " both
Thighs: 27"
Calves" 18.5"


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 02:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

As long as my squats, and deads keep going up, my hips will never go below 41 inches because my ass just keeps getting rounder and rounder. A year from now I'll have quads like slikz when he was at the top of his game. Hoping to get close to a 500lb deadlift by christmas (without tearing my bicep)

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 05:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I started at 290lbs. I am 267 this Morning after a shit. Feeling pretty good about that.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 07:27 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I always weigh myself after the morning paper. Hopefully I will feel better after class so I can hit the gym today.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 01:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Had a good workout today... did chest and back...

Bench press - 185x8, 205x6, 215x5, wanted to try 225, but had no spotter
Bent over row - 135x10, 155x8, 165x6
Incline dumbbell press - 60x10, 70x8, 80x6 - may not seem like much but i was pleasantly surprised with that last set... felt good...
Lat pulldown 120x10, 140x8, 160x6
Machine pec dec 120x10, 90x12, 60 for a burnout
Cable row 120x10, 90x12, 60 for a burnout

and then finished it off with dumbbell pullovers... man, i love those things, awesome stretch and really expands your chest... 60x10x3 - will definitley be going up on that next time... i used to do 90's or 100's on this back in the day...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/01/12 02:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You're throwing around some decent weight. I'm working my way up there slowly. Nice work!

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 02:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice WO DIezel. I don't know how you can do chest and back together though. That would slay me.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 02:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well i kept the volume somewhat low today and went from chest to back each time... if i do all chest then go to back, i may tend to slack on the back exercises...

on a day where i do chest and tris i would probably up the volume on the chest work...

i spent 45 minutes last night laying out my split for the next 7 weeks, and had originally planned to do chest and back today but changed it to chest and bis... so i get to the gym and did chest and back like a dumbfuck... UGH...

i already reworked the first couple days to make everything work...

i don't do once a week stuff... it's too much time between stimulation to the next one... so i try and follow something that gives this amount of days off for the follwoing bodyparts...

Legs - 6-7 days
Chest 4-5 days
Back 4-5 days
Shoulders 3-4 days
Arms - 3 days typically maybe 4 at the very most


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 03:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

For me it's:
Chest
Back
Shoulders
Legs
Arms


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/01/12 04:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm on a steady diet of


Chest and tri's
Back and bi's
Shoulders and calves
Legs
Day off (but usually do cardio this day)

Repeat

I get at least 4 out of the 7 days a good hour of cardio


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 05:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What happened to everyone that was advocating that you need to do complete body work oyts and that isolating muscles is not the way to go?

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 06:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

hey man, things change weekly...

like TMW says, you can do what the FUCK you wanna do...

but for a guy like you that really has no muscle mass to speak of you need to do compound stuff to grow... but i could put you on a dumbbell program and prolly get results too...

ANYTHING will work if you give maximum effort...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 06:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
What happened to everyone that was advocating that you need to do complete body work oyts and that isolating muscles is not the way to go?


Got ignored, per usual.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 08:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
What happened to everyone that was advocating that you need to do complete body work oyts and that isolating muscles is not the way to go?


When I was a gym hound (late 90's) breaking it up (rather than full body) got my WAY better results.

Now, I'm using the same principles in the workouts I do, just pared down. Still getting decent results, IMO.

Banged out 18.25 miles on the bike today in the 55 degree Feb 1 warmth. WTF is with this weather???


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 09:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I'll stick with Art and Drew. Worked so far and I'm educated enough to know it and not just believe them.

Although I do agree that newbs can do anything and get stronger. At some point they need to switch to compounds.


you can follow whoevers advice you like, but at the end of the day Art and Drew have completely different physiques, so that kinda tells you that not everything works the same for everyone...

compound lifts are essential in ANY program IMO, but doing isolation stuff has always worked great for me and countless others...

and i don't know what you really look like without a shirt so i can't really comment on what's it's done for you... i feel most of your results can be attributed to your diet vs your training... but i'm just making a generaliztion from your posts...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 10:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I think the fact that they look different proves that it works. They're different sized men it different stages (time) in their lifts. They're both genetically different as well. I lean more to Drews size and muscle so it's fine.


This pic is several months old, before I got on the compound program I'm on now. I doubt I'm all that much "bigger" now but I am stronger and less defined due to trying to bulk. I'll post updated pics after I cut.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/coupe347/99ca168e.jpg


Your results look similar to H Street NW's which is encouraging as you both did/are doing Starting Strength (right?).


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 10:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dieszel said it right, hard work in the gym will pay off no matter what program you are on.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/01/12 10:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm convinced those are airbrushed abs in that last pic.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 12:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
What happened to everyone that was advocating that you need to do complete body work oyts and that isolating muscles is not the way to go?


Got ignored, per usual.


Whoa! Easy there. I have not ignored you, OB1, or Art. I am doing this current routine because I was in terrible shape and recovering from knee surgery. I need to get the constantly sore muscles phase done and my knee 100% then I will start SS. I have a great deal of respect for every one who takes the time to help me out. I just need to implement it in my own way and time frame.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 12:45 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel


you can follow whoevers advice you like, but at the end of the day Art and Drew have completely different physiques, so that kinda tells you that not everything works the same for everyone...

compound lifts are essential in ANY program IMO, but doing isolation stuff has always worked great for me and countless others...

and i don't know what you really look like without a shirt so i can't really comment on what's it's done for you... i feel most of your results can be attributed to your diet vs your training... but i'm just making a generaliztion from your posts...


We have different physiques because 1) we have different body types and 2) I do a shitload more cardio through soccer than he does. So the lifting is pretty similar, but there are other factors in play.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 12:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
What happened to everyone that was advocating that you need to do complete body work oyts and that isolating muscles is not the way to go?


Got ignored, per usual.


Whoa! Easy there. I have not ignored you, OB1, or Art. I am doing this current routine because I was in terrible shape and recovering from knee surgery. I need to get the constantly sore muscles phase done and my knee 100% then I will start SS. I have a great deal of respect for every one who takes the time to help me out. I just need to implement it in my own way and time frame.


I ain't mad, bro. It's all good. I was just joking a bit.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 01:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Cool. I want you to know that I appreciate your help.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 03:00 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Word, homey.

lessthanmike
(Major Member)
02/02/12 04:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I forgot to update the past weekend so I took pics this morning
1/1/12 169.7
2/1/12 159.0





Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 10:21 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I feel like a huge loser this morning! I weighed myself, and I've gained back three of the pounds I had lost.

WTF! I've cut calories from 1400-1600, I'm lifting every day and doing cardio at least every other day. A few things might be happening. I am gaining muscle mass faster than I am losing fat. Or I've stunned my body into famine mode. But I'm eating! So what gives?


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 10:35 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

265. Water could be it. I've been drinking tons of it since I started.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 10:41 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Don't let it discourage you...you aren't going to drop every day,though you should drop week to week weighed on the same day.

My scale will do that...it'll be low, say 174, then go 174.4 then 174.7 then the next day it'll be 173.1 all of a sudden.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 10:44 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I thought it was a fluke yesterday. It hasn't changed today. If I don't see any progress this week, I'm going to further cut my calories. Maybe my body got used to the intake.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 11:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Someone at 265lbs on only 1400 - 1600 calories should definitely be dropping weight. I think you'll find it will drop again.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 04:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i'll just make the argument that further dropping cals may not be the answer...

but that seems to be the major theme here... and i get that having a caloric deficiet is needed to lose weight, but ultra low cal diets is not a good thing... maybe for a week but that's about it...

what's your meal plan look like today...? and show me where you did your training or cardio in that plan...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 04:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I think for now I won't worry too much about the weight loss and concentrate on getting stronger. Once I stop the radical gains at the gym, then I'll cut down.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 04:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i think that's not a bad idea to follow...

i lost 8 last week, but actually gained 1 so far this week, but have really been hitting the weights harder so i'm not totally bumbed about it...

i'll let the mirror tell me more right now vs the scale... i'm right around 227 and still far from my goal, but increasing muscle mass is not going to hurt my fat loss goal...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 04:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'll just make the argument that further dropping cals may not be the answer...

but that seems to be the major theme here... and i get that having a caloric deficiet is needed to lose weight, but ultra low cal diets is not a good thing... maybe for a week but that's about it...

what's your meal plan look like today...? and show me where you did your training or cardio in that plan...


Yesterday I had 1409 calories consumed and did 70 minutes of cardio. I lift 5 x's p/ wk

My diet consist of mostly chicken or fish, vegetables and some carbs( rice, infrequently very little bread)


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 04:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I talked to a few people who have said that my muscles might be holding oxygenated blood to hel repair, thus the weight gain. Like I said, I'll wit until I plateau to see where I'm at.

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 04:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm down 23 lbs in about as many days doing 12-1500 carbs per day and working out for the last 10-12 days. I don't know about ultra low cal but I feel like I am cutting a good amount of weight pretty fast.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 04:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

12-1500 carbs? That's a typo right?

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 05:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Lol Cals 12-1500 Cals. I get 250 a day in protein shakes and average somewhere around 2-300 for breakfast and lunch and then targg under 500 for dinner. Seems to work for us.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 05:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
12-1500 carbs? That's a typo right?


This is CSi. 1200 calories and 200g of protein a day are how it's done, son.





not for me, though--I just do sensible portions and less junk


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 05:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That's one thing I really haven't paid attention to. I am trying to keep calories down but not keeping my number low for the evening meal. Maybe my body is storing the extra calories while I sleep. Something to track...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 06:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

unless you had an intense workout prior to your last meal of the day, having that heavy meal a few hours before bed is not going to help you in your weight loss...

assume you go to be at 10...? if you were at the gym around 6 and tore it up and then had a heavier meal at 7:30-8 it's likely not going to hurt you... carbs will be stored in your muscles to recover what you drained, and likely not have any fat spillover... you still want to keep it sensible though...


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 06:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

FWIW, my wife's huge loss on Weight Watchers involved a lot of late dinners (8:30-9PM). Granted, she goes to bed around 1AM (doesn't go into work til late morning), so that might make it less of a "late" dinner.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 07:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

yeah if she's up til 1 and being acitve i can see her being able to work dinners off, but i don't know what her dinner consisted of either, and you can't really compare one person to another directly in some of these cases...

but you should still be dropping if you are on such a huge deficiet, so gotta change something up...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 08:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
I talked to a few people who have said that my muscles might be holding oxygenated blood to hel repair, thus the weight gain. Like I said, I'll wit until I plateau to see where I'm at.


LOL no

Your body doesn't make and dispose of blood that quickly. It is most likely just water. Don't worry about it too much.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/02/12 08:38 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Cool broshine.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 08:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

just because you are intaking alot more water doesn't neccesarily mean you will hold more... typically it'll allow you to expel more water when you are taking in more...

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 09:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Water weight is tricky, though. It's not always just associated with the water you drink. Changes in your body's hormones (natural changes), small changes in diet, sodium content -- these things can all affect how much water weight is in your body at any given time. It is usually just because water binds to certain compounds in the body, so it's very difficult to control.

Water binds to sodium. It binds to muscle glycogen. There are a lot of reasons why the body may be holding on to water, and it can, at times, have very little to do with how much you're drinking.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/02/12 11:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yup and if he's been taking in more carbs than he was the week before he'll hold more water. I think for every gram of carb you intake your body will hold an additional 3G water...? I think that's about right but I'm sure you could clarify.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/03/12 01:17 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yup!

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/03/12 11:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Shoulders and bis today...

Didn't hit shoulders real hard cause i was still feeling a bit of soreness in my upper back area from Wednesday's back routine...

Barbell push press - 95x12, 115x10, 135x8, 155x6 - was tough...
DB rear delt raises - 15x15, 20x12, 25x10 for 4 sets
DB Arnold presses - 35x10 for 3 sets supersetted with 3 more sets of the rear delt with 20's...
DB curls no supination - 40x10, 45x7, 50x3 and a half...? lol, that was tough as hell
then i just did like 6 sets of cable work for the bis with a straight bar and rope supersets...

tomorrow is leg and tris day... not sure what all i'll do yet, but definitely be squatting, some stiff legged deads (love those)...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/03/12 05:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm going to do some light bench press tomorrow, these last two days wrecked the shit out of me.

2 Sets:

A1: 800m Run (70%); 2 min
A2: 400m Run (90%); 2 min
B: 5 Rounds for time of:
5 Push Jerks 70kg(154lbs) *I scaled down to 60(132lbs) after 6 reps
20 Russian Kettlebell Swings 40kg(88lbs)

today
A: Power Snatch + Overhead Squat: (x/2+5)5 - got up to 65kg failed 68kg attempts
B: Power Clean + Push Press: (x/2+5)5 - got up to 75kg failed the push press

C: 5 min Row (50%); no rest
6 Sets:
D1: 2 min row (80%); no rest
D2: 1 min row (50%); no rest

To explain this (x/2+5)5

You do 2 reps of the first lift, at the completion of the second lift you keep the weight up and you perform the second lift for the rep scheme. So two cleans then five push presses for 5 sets.

The push press was pretty hard for me today after the push jerks the night before, we don't do the whole 72 hour rest period for muscles but we don't train like the bulgarians either. I did 12 days unbroken of training sometime last year and felt amazing rather than overtrained. With proper diet and nutrients I could probably sustain that for a decent amount of time.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 10:56 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Today is a workout that wrecked me last time I did it: an hour+ on the mag trainer where I do sprint intervals every 10-15min, recover, get off the bike and bang out 30-35 pushups and 20 dips on the pushup handles, back on the bike and repeat. Oof...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 11:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I feel 95% today so I'm heading to the gym to burn some cardio.

I'm going to being Starting Strength on Monday. Presently going through the videos of each individual exercise so I have an idea of the proper form and reading associated workout materials.

Have a good weekend. I hope to at least show some weight loss progress in tomorrows weigh in.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 07:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Although big meals (especially with a lot of carbs) are bad close to bed time, I always eat something and have a protein shake before bed. I'll have like some turkey or chicken or a couple hard boiled eggs. If I don't I will wake up STARVING and I want my body to have some proteinz to feed on while I sleep.

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 08:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Depends on your goals I think. It's not uncommon for me to lose 4lbs overnight. I am obviously in weight loss mode not bulking muscle building, though I will build muscles.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 08:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Your body is processing/digesting the food you ate during the day while you sleep.

Just because you feel hungry doesn't mean your body still isn't processing and digesting the food you ate during the day.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 09:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I know, I just hate waking up and feeling like throwing up because I'm so hungry. Gah.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 10:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I don't think I have ever been THAT hungry. \:D

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 10:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

it was leg day at the gym today... UGH, i have a feeling tomorrow should be quite the adventure since i want to do 45 minutes of steady state cardio...

legs are already tightening up if i sit too long...

so i did something a little different today...

started off with 10 minutes on the treadmill
2 supersets of leg curl / leg extension sets of 12 each
9 sets of lag sled press 180x15, 270x12, 360x8, 450x8,8,8 then ramped back down to 270 again
3 sets of squats with 135x10 - went as low as i possibly could, i just think my hips are as flexible as they should be... anyone know some good hip flexor stretches to work on...?
finished off legs with 3 sets of stiff legged deads for 12 reps with 115lbs...

i then hit tris quick which consisted of

overhead DB press 75x10, 85x10, 95x10
camber bar skullcrushers 75x10,10,8 - last set i just failed at 8...

finished the day off with another 20 minutes on the treadmill to burn off an FFA's floating around the blood... ;\)



Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/04/12 10:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I need a motivated gym partner like you. \:\)

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/04/12 11:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
I need a motivated gym partner like you. \:\)


No shit! I don't think I could keep up.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 12:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
it was leg day at the gym today... UGH, i have a feeling tomorrow should be quite the adventure since i want to do 45 minutes of steady state cardio...

legs are already tightening up if i sit too long...

so i did something a little different today...

started off with 10 minutes on the treadmill
2 supersets of leg curl / leg extension sets of 12 each
9 sets of lag sled press 180x15, 270x12, 360x8, 450x8,8,8 then ramped back down to 270 again
3 sets of squats with 135x10 - went as low as i possibly could, i just think my hips are as flexible as they should be... anyone know some good hip flexor stretches to work on...?
finished off legs with 3 sets of stiff legged deads for 12 reps with 115lbs...

i then hit tris quick which consisted of

overhead DB press 75x10, 85x10, 95x10
camber bar skullcrushers 75x10,10,8 - last set i just failed at 8...

finished the day off with another 20 minutes on the treadmill to burn off an FFA's floating around the blood... ;\)



Why all the accessory work before the compound lifts?


SelfEntitledProdigy
(Post Master)
02/05/12 03:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I dont know about anyone else I generally just take 1 day off a week out of the gym, On that day I cant seem to keep my diet in line. If I go to the gym is near perfect. I think it just out of boredom or something. I would go to the gym but I know my body needs the rest. Owell I guess Im doing alright 17lbs in a month isnt to shabby especially since I am not a total fat ass

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 05:18 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Weight loss stalled a bit in the last 2 weeks. My diet was ok but gym time was down and last week I was down with the crud. \:\(



Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/05/12 08:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Finally on the right track. Last week had me worried. But I'm down to 260. Ahthankyajesus!

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/05/12 08:39 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
. anyone know some good hip flexor stretches to work on...?




You know about the one where you get down on one knee, like you were proposing to a gal, and step forward with your foot. Then lean your upper body back and thrust your hip towards your pointed toe?

Bah! I suck at explaining lemme find a pic brb

Hey baby (butthead voice)


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 11:23 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

197.0
Up from 195.5 last week. \:\(

Well, if I take my wife's weight loss pattern into account, there are weeks with big losses and there are weeks with no losses.

Hopefully this will mean a 3 pound loss next week. Superbowl isn't going to help, though.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 12:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole


Why all the accessory work before the compound lifts?


i did the leg curls and extensions to simply make sure i was thoroughly warmed up for the compound lifts...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 12:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm up for the week as well which is disappointing but i'm not getting bent out of shape over it...

I did a fasted cardio session this morning for 45 minutes followed by some ab work...

tomorrow is chest, bis and some calf work... gonna try and put up the 90's or 95's for 6-8 reps on the incline bench...


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 12:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole


Why all the accessory work before the compound lifts?


i did the leg curls and extensions to simply make sure i was thoroughly warmed up for the compound lifts...

Do your compound movements with body weight to warm up. Then a little weight then more etc. I typically do 1 set of body weight squats then 2 sets of ramp up weight then my 5x5 working set.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 12:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I typically do this but wanted to try something different... i still did warm up reps with the leg press as well...

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 12:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Back 5
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole


Why all the accessory work before the compound lifts?


i did the leg curls and extensions to simply make sure i was thoroughly warmed up for the compound lifts...

Do your compound movements with body weight to warm up. Then a little weight then more etc. I typically do 1 set of body weight squats then 2 sets of ramp up weight then my 5x5 working set.


I do similar. Couple sets of body weight, 2 sets of 135x10, 1 set of 225x10, 1 rep of weight acclimation, then the working sets.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 01:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Getting it in, solid 195lbs 197 with shoes. Happy I'm holding under 200, cutting all fruit and going to lock in 1200-1500cals until the end of the month and try to cut another 15lbs to end the challenge off hard. Last week hard cutting shall be done. My coach still has it in his mind that someone else is going to beat me on this challenge because he's lost 30lbs but his body weight was measured so fucked up I don't possibly see how a 300+lb male has 24% bodyfat as opposed to me starting off with 29% anyway these will probably get smaller so not to fuck up justification but I'll post the larger ones in the seczy pic thread.



DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 01:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

kicking ass bro... and yeah 300+ @24% he wasn't in THAT BAD of shape to start...

i'd be curious to see a picture of this guy before...


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 02:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

He was 7'6" lol

Wayne, those love handles have come down a ton broseidon!!you are killing it.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 03:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

This is my buddy walt, we started crossfit at the same time.

This is October 2011 just a month before we started the challenge.


And this is from the 31st


Don't really have any clear shots of him but he's lost 30lbs in the same time that I've lost my 17. Of course it's going to be harder to see that loss on him but I can see it. If I can cut that 15lbs in the next 3 weeks then I know I'll beat him. No way whatever he can possibly lose will be as dramatic as 30lbs on me.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 03:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

no way in hell he was 24% bf either... lol...

yeah your percentage of weight lost would be greater than his even if he lost 45 and you lost 30...

you're killing it man, keep it up...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 03:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm kinda sad to see Waynes tittays disappearing. \:\(

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/05/12 09:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My dog cant get comfortable sleeping on me anymore, bitch is always making that "i'm uncomfortable growl noise" when trying to dig her back into my stomach to stay warm.

shaftid
(Sr Member)
02/05/12 11:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
Getting it in, solid 195lbs 197 with shoes. Happy I'm holding under 200, cutting all fruit and going to lock in 1200-1500cals until the end of the month and try to cut another 15lbs to end the challenge off hard. Last week hard cutting shall be done. My coach still has it in his mind that someone else is going to beat me on this challenge because he's lost 30lbs but his body weight was measured so fucked up I don't possibly see how a 300+lb male has 24% bodyfat as opposed to me starting off with 29% anyway these will probably get smaller so not to fuck up justification but I'll post the larger ones in the seczy pic thread.



You're doing awesome man. I can see a change in just about every pic.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/06/12 01:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Had a good workout today although my weights were not what i had planned on...

I was actually up nearly 3lbs since last week, but my diet wasn't very tight and have been lifting more...

Warm up on treadmill for 6 minutes
Bench press 135x8 for 2 sets just to warm up
Incline DB press 75x10,8,6 - i thought i was going to go up with this today but it just wan't there - possibly cause i did tris on Saturday and hit them pretty good - may have hampered my ability to push more weight today
Flat DB press 60x10x3
Cable Crossovers 3 sets of 12 or so
Machine chest crossover 1 dropset of 12, 12
Barbell curls - 70x10, 80x8, 90x3 - that shit was way too heavy and got 3 with good form, anymore would have been all back and shoulders
Hammer curls - 25x10x2, 20x12x1
Cable curl dropset 12, 12
Seated calf raise - 90x12x3
Bodyweight calf raise 3 sets of 25

Finished off with 22 minutes on the treadmill @ 3.8mph on a 4.0 inlcine...

Wednesday i have back, shoulders and tris...


Cheesegoggles
(Post Master Supreme)
02/06/12 02:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: CheeseGoggles
Weighed in today since I didn't hop on the scale first thing yesterday morning.

Weight: 189.8


Currently at 185 lbs. Been to the gym once and not eating particularly well for a few weeks due to the new addition at home. Things are probably going to be disorganized until she is in daycare about the first of March, so workouts will not be consistent but should still drop some weight with a stricter diet, running and hitting the gym a couple of times a week.


**DONOTDELETE**
()
02/06/12 07:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2
Week 4 (1/30): -8.8
Week 5 (2/05): +2.8


I blew it the fuck up yesterday. Not too concerned.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/06/12 08:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

162 this morning.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/06/12 08:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: Philabong


Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2
Week 4 (1/30): -8.8
Week 5 (2/05): +2.8


I blew it the fuck up yesterday. Not too concerned.


Heh...yea, I was wondering how everyone's scale would be today with the Super Bowl yesterday and all the eating I'm sure that brought on. I think you're the only one to post and update so far...everyone else is ashamed. \:D


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/06/12 09:25 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I am up from my low. I'll post the number tomorrow morning post dump.

slackereg6
(Member)
02/06/12 10:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Start 162.0
2 weeks 163.6 up 1.6 total
4 weeks 162.4 up 0.4 total
5 weeks 161.6 down .4 total

Finally going in the right direction. Long run this week sucked but I think it was just because I am still adjusting to running so much. Did 5 miles at 8:30 pace mid-week and that is blazing fast for me. Going to change my eating a little to try and get a little more protein during the week and more carbs during the weekend for my long run.

My first half will be in two weeks and I want to be under 160 for it.



Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/06/12 10:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Good job man....sounds like you're ready for that half.

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 05:26 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

269 up 3lbs

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 12:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

This morning while I was doing my pullups, my wife commented on how much more defined my upper body was getting. She said she wasn't used to seeing muscles on me. \:D After flexing in front of the mirror I was pretty happy to see that sure enough...there appears to be some muscle in those arms.

I'm wondering how much, if any fat weight I've replaced with muscle weight.

Anyways...for the bois:



HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 01:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Good forearms, good triceps...biceps need some work (do chin-ups as well, not just pull-ups). \:D

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 01:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice job.

I'm a firm believer that pullups can accomplish a 75% of what a gym can if you do them enough.


wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 02:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice Cierrecart!!!!!!!!!!!! Man arms!!!

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 02:24 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

pullups are great, but they primarily target your lats and arms... if you want that nice upper middle back, you gotta do a row movement...

good work Chris...


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 02:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Winter fun time is over for the most part...going to start getting back into perfection diet time..I'll try to keep track of my intake on my daily plate if anyone is interested.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 03:24 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I find it hard to believe that Lewis is anything but perfect ALL THE TIME! \:D

Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
02/07/12 03:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
I find it hard to believe that Lewis is anything but perfect ALL THE TIME! \:D

I can take a picture...abs are still there(barely) I'm just trying something new out this year for cutting purposes.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/08/12 02:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well last week I had gained 3.6 pounds, but have lost 3.8 between Monday and Tuesday this week...

Hit up the gym today for back, shoulders, tris...

Barbell Rows 2 warmups then 135x10, 155x8, 165x6
Single arm DB row 60x10,65x10,70x10
DB shrugs 65x12, 70x12, 75x12 - could have gone heavier but was really trying to squeeze and hold each rep
DB lateral rasies 25x10x3
Machine rear delt 100x8, 80x10, 60x12
DB shoulder press drop sets 45x10, 35x10, 25 to failure
Cable rows for upper back 120x10, 140x10, 160x6-7
Cable triceps pushdowns 70x10, 80x10, 90x10
Overhead cable triceps press 30x 3 sets to failure

Finished it off with 20 mintues on the treadmill...

Starting to see a little definition in my arms, and a little separation between the shoulder and biceps...

Still a long way to go to get where i want to be, but progress is happening...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/08/12 02:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So I had to return the three medium shirts I ordered for my Hawaii trip because they were like tents on me. Tried on some smalls at the store today and they fit great....no longer snug around the love handle area.

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/08/12 04:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You are proud of small shirts? Ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah

Just kidding Chris. Nice job. BTW you need to put that flex shot over in secsi pics thread. We are lacking teh secsi over there.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/08/12 06:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
You are proud of small shirts? Ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah

Just kidding Chris. Nice job. BTW you need to put that flex shot over in secsi pics thread. We are lacking teh secsi over there.


lol, I'm only 5'7...when I hit my goal I'll probably need to start shopping the young men's section. \:D


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/08/12 08:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i haven't wore a small anything in 25+ years...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/09/12 01:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Like i said, i had gained nearly 4lbs last week... I was back up to 229.8...

today I weighed in at 225.2 which really shocked me, but i've been avoiding all carbs after 12 noon this week so far...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/09/12 01:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Are you sure you gained 4lbs? Are you comparing the same day of the week vs the same day last week? Friday vs Monday morning is never a good idea to compare. \:\)

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/09/12 02:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm still trying to break that 260 mark. Maybe a carb cut in the pm would work.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/09/12 02:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i only make my comparisons on Monday morning chief... same time of the day...

i attribute most of that gain to water, cause i was taking in alot more carbs which would make sense...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/09/12 02:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
I'm still trying to break that 260 mark. Maybe a carb cut in the pm would work.


it works, no denying it, but it's a short term thing for me... not a lifestyle i can live with... so lame...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/09/12 04:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

193lbs as of this morning 19lb total loss.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/09/12 04:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i'm not sure what you mean, but knowing you, i assume you're being a jagoff...?

but yeah MY diet is all about ME... ;\)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/11/12 04:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hit legs and bis yesterday...

Seated leg curls, leg extensions - 2 warmup of each
Squats - 95x12, 135x10, 185x8, 225x6, 245x3 - shit was fucking heavy...
Lunges while holding a 45lb plate - 3x10 on each leg
DB curls - 40x8, 45x6, 50x3.5 - too heavy for the last rep
Cable curls - 3 sets high reps

Then today i did chest...

Incline DB press 75x10, 80x8, 85x6
Flat DB press 65x10,10,8
Machine Flyes - 100x10, 80x12, 60x15

Then did 20 minutes on the treadmill, but hopped off every 3rd minute and did 20 pushups...

Tomorrow I plan to do some isolation shoulder stuff...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/11/12 09:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Had a leg workout myself. But it was unsatisfying because I was also working with the wifey. Tried to squat like the starting strength vid, push my ass up. I think I did a few right. On my last heavy set of five @280, I only did five half squats. Wasn't comfortable with going deep. Something to work on I guess. I need to punish my chest tomorrow. It's been too long.

skierd
(Post Master Sr)
02/12/12 12:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Down to 221 as of this morning, so -3.5 pounds in two weeks. Its a start...

I've started shrinking portion sizes and bringing lunch instead of buying out in an effort to both save money and lose calories. Already feels so much easier to breath and move.


SelfEntitledProdigy
(Post Master)
02/12/12 02:57 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

been stuck @ 224is for about a week. No big deal can see the size disappearing. Then again diet really hasnt been spot on this week and also cause working from 0530 too 7pm all week really no time to work out. Owell that week is by me and hope for a better week this one.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/12/12 07:45 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I started weight training this week (Starting Strength) on M/W/F but I need to throw in some more cardio after my initial warm-ups and do cardio only session on Sat and Sun.

Up 3 pounds to 207 from last week. No worries though. This is a marathon, not a sprint.


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/12/12 09:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Had a leg workout myself. But it was unsatisfying because I was also working with the wifey. Tried to squat like the starting strength vid, push my ass up. I think I did a few right. On my last heavy set of five @280, I only did five half squats. Wasn't comfortable with going deep. Something to work on I guess. I need to punish my chest tomorrow. It's been too long.

Shouldn't be starting at 280 if you are doing SS. Drop all your weights down, work on perfect form and increase each week.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/12/12 10:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Back 5
 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Had a leg workout myself. But it was unsatisfying because I was also working with the wifey. Tried to squat like the starting strength vid, push my ass up. I think I did a few right. On my last heavy set of five @280, I only did five half squats. Wasn't comfortable with going deep. Something to work on I guess. I need to punish my chest tomorrow. It's been too long.

Shouldn't be starting at 280 if you are doing SS. Drop all your weights down, work on perfect form and increase each week.


Thanks for the reply. I'm not doing SS yet. I've been working out for 2 or 3 weeks just to get to the gym and get the soreness out of the way. I just had knee surgery a month ago and am heading to Mexico next week. I don't want to start something and not be able to follow through. So when I begin SS, I will drop my weights and work on form.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/12/12 12:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dude you are putting 280 on your back and admit you're doing half squats but say you're going to start doing form correctly when you start SS?. I'm failing to see any logic here.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/12/12 12:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16


Thanks for the reply. I'm not doing SS yet. I've been working out for 2 or 3 weeks just to get to the gym and get the soreness out of the way. I just had knee surgery a month ago and am heading to Mexico next week. I don't want to start something and not be able to follow through. So when I begin SS, I will drop my weights and work on form.


Don't hurt yourself.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/12/12 12:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Oh and I'm 195.0, down from 197.0 last week. \:\)

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/12/12 01:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole
Dude you are putting 280 on your back and admit you're doing half squats but say you're going to start doing form correctly when you start SS?. I'm failing to see any logic here.


I understand your concern. I did 4 other sets at that weight which, in my opinion, were good deep squats. I'm still messing with form a little after watching the Ripetoe you tube video. 280 for a guy my size is not omg heavy. Don't get me wrong, it's fuckin hard but not kill myself hard.

right now I'm trying to find my limit. When I start SS, I will drop the weight and concentrate on good form every rep every set. I want to do this right. Right now, I'm just fuckin around.


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/12/12 02:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You don't have to start SS and go to the gym 3xweek uninterrupted for a year. Start it now and whenever you need to take a break for vacation, do it, and come back.

It's not something you say "okay, I will start SS on Feb 22, 2012" you start the next time you're at the gym.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/12/12 03:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I want to read the book and look at the nechnique videos. It's that stupid ADD focus thing. I want to be able to understand the science behind it too. I downloaded the book onto my iPad, so I'll be able to read it there and formulate a work out plan.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/12/12 05:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I did lowbar backsquats today after my 10k with 178lbs or something close 80kg. It's not too bad, definitely easier on the quads, able to stay on the heels, ass to ankles every rep, just hate the feeling I'm going to launch forward coming up.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 10:15 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 10:25 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Go Wayne!

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 11:33 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137


Outstanding Mr. Sexyman.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 11:53 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'm not sure what you mean, but knowing you, i assume you're being a jagoff...?

but yeah MY diet is all about ME... ;\)
Then why do you keep knocking it? Not only have you already said it 100 times, it is also irrelevant to the thread.

Just read it. Use it or don't. Nobody cares if you use it. If you have relevant info as to why you should or should not follow a path then that's relevant. Whether not you like it isn't. Certainly not 150 times a day either.


Last i checked I wasn't aware that opinions weren't allowed in this forum... get off your low carb high horse already... for as well as it works, it also has it's disadvantages, especially if you go low carb back to a carb base diet... some people will immediately start to put weight back on and could lead to people getting confused, irritated or simply quitting...

I was down to 224.8 as of Thursday morning, was taking no carbs after 12 noon on training days, and little to none on non traning days... I went back to a carb base for the weekend, and was all the way back up to 229.5 as of last night...

Had a net loss of about 2.5 for the week, and will cycle the no carbs / low carb again this week to see if i can get another 2.5 net loss for the week...

Dude, you've been training for what a year...? now you think you know it all...? please, you may have lost your hamlegs but you still have alot to learn too, and realize there is more than one way to do things, and since i've done most of them i'm pretty sure i can speak on it from an experienced perspective, whereas you only have one point of view...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 01:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

In the end, i'm getting results with my "yo-yo" dieting if that's what you want to call it...

i prefer to say it's "carb cycling", and it defintiely has its advantages... I am able to give maximum effort and not be sore for days afterwards... my goal isn't simply weight loss... it's fat loss and keeping muscle, possibly adding some... i can't really expect to be adding muscle though at this point, as my caloric deficit is far too large...

and there's really nothing wrong with broscience... it's just advice, take it or leave it... at the end of the day you do what the fuck you wanna do... noone forces anyone here to do anything... but for like like Val, he's getting lousy results with all the advice he's been given so far... i wish he lived near me, cause i would put him on my regime and he'd get results in a short time... and then i'd say "meeeaaaaaaa, meeeeaaaaaaaa"...

you go on and on about how i give my advice, when you do the same thing... ? ok...

and you seem to gloss over all the times i said low carb can work for weight loss... you seem to get hung up on the "i don't like it"... just let it go chief, it's not your invention, you seem to take it personally that i don't like cottage cheese...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 02:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
... but for like like Val, he's getting lousy results with all the advice he's been given so far... i wish he lived near me, cause i would put him on my regime and he'd get results in a short time...



He only recently started following the advice he was given, so that is not a fair point to try to make.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 02:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

No, but you get mad when i say low carb sucks... we are all here for the same thing man... not sure why you gotta get your panties in a bunch over it...

Like i said, i wasn't aware that we weren't allowed to express our opinions on things we try... if i never did low carb, and was spouting off how it's lame, it sucks, etc, i could see you getting annoyed by it, cause it wouldn just be heresay or broscience i guess...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 02:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Never had a whiny wife, so i can't relate... ;\)

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 02:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

wow can you two shut the fuck up please =)

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 03:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
wow can you two shut the fuck up please =)


hey man, he started it </5 year old>


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 03:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hug it out, Bitches!

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 04:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I just hope no one ends up needing $50k bail

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 04:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

lol, no we are not some other idiots on this site... we are a whole different type of idiot... ;\)

anyhow i hot back, tris and calves today...

Lat pulldowns 120x12, 140x10, 160x7
Bent over barbell rows 135x10x3
One arm DB rows 80x10x2
Hammer Machine rows 90x10x3
Dips between benches 15 reps - 3 sets
V bar pressdown - 70x12x3
Donkey calf - 180x15x3
Standing calf - 160x12x2, 100x15x1


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/13/12 09:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1


Val doesn't get consistent results because he's not consistent with his diet and routine, not because the advice is bad.



What do you mean I'm not consistent?

I eat practically the same thing every day...same calories, same protein...I keep a log and have been for the last five weeks. Same with the exercise, the past five weeks, I've been doing SS as prescribed...haven't missed one work out.

How much more consistent can I be? Or were you referring to before I started SS five weeks ago?


slackereg6
(Member)
02/14/12 10:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Where is the cheerleader? I joined for the women not shirtless man pics.

Came in at 160.2 last Sunday. Should be below the goal of 160 for the half this Sunday. I know I have not dropped a lot of weight but I have not gotten injured and only had one bad run this far so I am happy with my progress.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 12:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I agree. This is suppose to be a positive experience. Lots of bitching up in here.

Can we keep focus people?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 01:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

There's nothing wrong with some back and forth... life is full of disagreements, deal with it...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 02:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: slackereg6
Where is the cheerleader? I joined for the women not shirtless man pics.







Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 03:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
There's nothing wrong with some back and forth... life is full of disagreements, deal with it...


You are absolutely right, there is nothing wrong with some back and forth.

Unfortunatly, what has been posted has been name calling and shit talking. I understand we all have some form of ego when it comes to fitness, but there is no need for such negative bullshit. Take it to another thread, it doesn't belong in this one

(and I am not saying that specifically to you, so please don't get upset with it - I'm making a general statement about this challenge thread)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 03:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I don't get upset Dahlia... and frankly i wasn't the one that derailed the flow either...

but the thread went pretty silent for like 3-4 days, so at least it got people talking again... ;\)

on another note, I had used Myfitnesspal in the past and it seemed not so user friendly, but i just reloaded into my iphone and it seems to be ALOT better now... will come in handy when I am really trying to nail my macros down...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/14/12 06:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

This Weight loss thing is going slower than expected. In the past, I've just gone on a fad diet and cut pounds quickly. This time, I'm calorie counting which was odd at first but now I'm getting used to it.

I'm surprised though that basically cutting my calorie intake by half hasn't garnered more weight loss. People say that I am looking thinner, so that is a good thing.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 06:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

How many calories are you having per day? How many were you having before the diet?

Similar thing happened to me in the beginning...I was having 1500 calories per day and the weight was coming off really slowly and I was basically stuck at 186-188lbs for a long ass time. Dropped the calories to 1200 and it made a huge difference and it's been all down hill since then.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 06:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

on my off training days i'm around 1200-1300 myself, and on training days, closer to 1800 or so... weight is still coming off, about 2.5-3 lbs per week right now...

once i get to 215, i'll level out to a consistent 1700-1800 cals a day for a couple weeks, and then start adding some more cals as I would like to build some more muscle then...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 07:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Correction: I'm more like 1450 cals on non training days... Forgot the ANPB...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 07:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
This Weight loss thing is going slower than expected. In the past, I've just gone on a fad diet and cut pounds quickly. This time, I'm calorie counting which was odd at first but now I'm getting used to it.

I'm surprised though that basically cutting my calorie intake by half hasn't garnered more weight loss. People say that I am looking thinner, so that is a good thing.


Healthy, realistic weight loss is 2 lbs. a week, fwiw.

Doing it "conventionally" will net you much better long term results. It's a lifestyle change.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 07:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

gamby is right, 2lbs a week is a good number to shoot for for healthy weight loss...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 08:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
 Originally Posted By: slackereg6
Where is the cheerleader? I joined for the women not shirtless man pics.







OMG G@mby is a dudebro.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 09:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

lulz

Not really. If anything, I'm an aging/aged skateboarder--those are my skate shorts and those are Adidas skate shoes. Wearing a skate hat (Krooked ZipZinger), too.

That said, I do look pretty dudebro. As a 100% Italian (American), I'm genetically guido, but I'm not that, either. Not a dudebro IRL, FWIW.

Just starting to get built like one.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/14/12 10:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've been consistently around the 1500 calorie mark for the last 2-3 weeks. The MFP website tells me I should be around 1900. If the norm is 2lbs p/wk then I'm over that and should just stop whining.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 11:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What, exactly, is the line between healthy and unhealthy weight loss?

Just curious because people are throwing that term around like it actually means anything.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 11:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I can't really quantify "healthy"... But I would think we can agree that dropping upwards of 7,8,9 pounds a week for an extended period of time is going to cost you a good amount of lean mass... With a caloric deficit that high you are making some sacrifices in other areas...

If your ONLY goal is to "drop weight" I guess that range could be acceptable over a short period of time (1 month)...? But aren't you setting yourself up for a rebound gain...? At what point does your body decide its going into starvation mode...?

I'm pretty sure truck man and gamby like myself are interested in losing fat and sparing muscle tissue in doing so...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/14/12 11:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Oh and the scanner function in MFP is TITS... My username is ckneasel if you want to friend me...

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 12:07 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I dunno, I'm down 20 lbs in a month and a half. OOOH!!!!! - diceman



gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 12:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel

I'm pretty sure truck man and gamby like myself are interested in losing fat and sparing muscle tissue in doing so...


Yep. Zero interest in losing muscle mass.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 12:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I think you'd really have to do some christian bale mayo diets to lose mass. Then again I haven't tried OB1's "thinner" diet. I'm taking in about 1500-1700 still building muscle mass.

BTW was able to split jerk 94kg(207lbs) today, super stoked about that. I wasn't able to get 90 up a few weeks ago when trying to clean n jerk it.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 07:52 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
I can't really quantify "healthy"... But I would think we can agree that dropping upwards of 7,8,9 pounds a week for an extended period of time is going to cost you a good amount of lean mass... With a caloric deficit that high you are making some sacrifices in other areas...

If your ONLY goal is to "drop weight" I guess that range could be acceptable over a short period of time (1 month)...? But aren't you setting yourself up for a rebound gain...? At what point does your body decide its going into starvation mode...?

I'm pretty sure truck man and gamby like myself are interested in losing fat and sparing muscle tissue in doing so...


1) Losing muscle mass isn't inherently "unhealthy." It may run counter to your goals, but that's different.

2) Remember that study I posted where the people maintained their muscle mass on an 800 calorie diet simply by lifting? They lost more than 2 lbs per week without losing muscle.

3) Rebound gains are only going to happen when you take in more than you burn. At that point, it's self control, not something you are unable to control.

4) Starvation mode takes a long time to kick in, especially if you weigh so much that you are losing that much per week (7, 8, 9 lbs).

I guess the point I'm really trying to make here is that it seems to be misleading to say that you can only lose 2 lbs per week and be healthy doing so. How can that rule possibly hold true for someone that is 250 lbs and someone who is 150 lbs? One is a much higher percentage than the other.

If you can maintain or increase the amount you are lifting, while simultaneously are losing more than 2 lbs per week, I don't see the problem, honestly. You won't be losing muscle mass if you are doing that. It seems a bit silly to think, "Oh, I lost too much weight this week!" if your goal is to actually lose weight. If you focus hard on diet and exercise, losing quickly and gaining (or at least avoiding losing) muscle can happen at the same time.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/15/12 08:33 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
I dunno, I'm down 20 lbs in a month and a half. OOOH!!!!! - diceman



Good job Wayne. When is the contest done?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 08:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

In that study those people were not losing large amounts of weight over a short period of time... I'd have to look again but they may have been losing at a rate of 3-4 pounds a week...?

And Wayne are you really adding muscle mass? Likely not with a caloric deficit... It's just the illusion due to the fat loss...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 08:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

They lost 33 lbs of fat in 12 weeks, on average. That's almost 3 lbs per week of pure fat loss with no reduction in muscle mass. And that's on 800 calories per day. My point in bringing it up was to say that 2 lbs isn't a magic number or something.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 09:11 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
In that study those people were not losing large amounts of weight over a short period of time... I'd have to look again but they may have been losing at a rate of 3-4 pounds a week...?

And Wayne are you really adding muscle mass? Likely not with a caloric deficit... It's just the illusion due to the fat loss...


Lifts are going up, muscle is required to do so. It's nothing crazy but I guess I can give a comparison shot. brb.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/15/12 09:21 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That's what I think is going on with me. I'm adding muscle and losing fat. So my the results I see on the scale are deceiving. I don't want to be such a scale whore but it's sitting right there in the morning after my first piss, saying "step on me, you know you want to". I am weak.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 09:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

best I can do for you, you can decide, like I said the gains are minimal but 20lbs has been lost and no mass has disappeared from my body. I never took any before or afters of my legs, my quads are bigger but nothing mind blowing and my calves look pretty awesome too.






The one of my back is when I was doing "power lifting" lots of cable pulls and smith rows, on the right is pull ups and other hanging exercises in crossfit. my mid upper back isn't as big I don't think but my lats are now longer.

I think the love handles should be at their smallest at 180 if I can get there. I don't have a respectable chest or shoulders because I don't bench, I don't like the exercise so sorry it is just going to get worse as I get skinnier =(


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 09:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

and yes the facial hair is on purpose since I want the after pics to have the same facial hair lol.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 12:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That Count de Thomas beard/stache combo gets me every time.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 01:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
In that study those people were not losing large amounts of weight over a short period of time... I'd have to look again but they may have been losing at a rate of 3-4 pounds a week...?

And Wayne are you really adding muscle mass? Likely not with a caloric deficit... It's just the illusion due to the fat loss...


Lifts are going up, muscle is required to do so. It's nothing crazy but I guess I can give a comparison shot. brb.


actually a muscle can get stronger without hypertrophy... if you're as much weight as you are, you're likely not adding muscle bro... i am in the same boat, and while i look "bigger" it's simply due to the loss of bodyfat...

If someone wants to clarify, i'll be all ears...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 01:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
They lost 33 lbs of fat in 12 weeks, on average. That's almost 3 lbs per week of pure fat loss with no reduction in muscle mass. And that's on 800 calories per day. My point in bringing it up was to say that 2 lbs isn't a magic number or something.


so 3 pounds isn't far off from 2 and 800 cals is LOW... Did they give the particpants weights before and after...? I think this discussion is different depedning on the size of the people we are talking about...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 01:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

looking at your pics Wayne i don't think you are adding any muscle... the loss of fat is giving you the appearance of "more muscle"... nothing more...

I don't even know if's it's physiologically possible to add muscle when you're on a obvious caloric deficit... it's HARD to build muscle man, your body is NOT going to do so without an excess of calories to expend...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 01:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

like I said the gains are minimal if any, I'm not some 120lb kid who bloated up to 130, but I've gotten half inch gains here and there. Forearms are definitely bitter, shoulders are slightly bigger. But a gain is a gain I don't have an accurate measure of my arms since most of the fat is in the turkey area

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 02:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

it's all speculation unless you have an accurate body comp before and after...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 02:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Had a pretty good workout today... Chest & bis...

Bench press - 135x12, 185x10, 205x6, 215x3 tried 4th but got stuck halfway, spotter helped me finish it...
Incline DB press - 65x10, 70x10, 75x7or8
Flat DB press - 50x10,10,9 - each set was followed by pushups to failure (may have pushed out 5 or 6 max)
Cable crossovers 3 sets of 10-12

Barbell curls - 80x8x3
DB curls - 40x8, 45x6 dropped to 20's for 10, 50x3 dropped to 25's for 8 or so
Rope curls - 2 drop sets 10 reps / 10-12 reps

Off tomorrow, back and shoulders on Friday...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 02:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
so 3 pounds isn't far off from 2 and 800 cals is LOW... Did they give the particpants weights before and after...? I think this discussion is different depedning on the size of the people we are talking about...


No, it's not far off, but it also isn't 2, which was my point.

Not sure what you mean about weights before and after. Before and after what?

I agree, and already said as much, that it has to vary between the size of the person; that one cannot simply say 2 lbs is the limit for "healthy" weight loss (which still hasn't really been defined).


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 04:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

by weights i was referring to the particpants bodyweights before and after... conversation gets a little different when you're talking about 200lb and 300lb individuals...

I guess my thing was to get these 4,5 lb losses each week you need to have a large caloric deficit, and at some point your body can experience a run down feeling if it's not getting enough nutritional support from your intake... recovery from intense workouts is much harder to come by with such a low caloric intake as well...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 04:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Average weight was 213 lbs.

800 calories is enough to provide ample protein and fats. Glycogen will come from fat stores. It's not a *huge* deal until you get to the point where your body has such low body fat that it really resists giving it up. So, nutritional support is very different from individual to individual, as is recovery.


M
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 05:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

229.0 - Monday, January 2, 2012
219.4 - Monday, January 9, 2012
217.8 - Monday, January 16, 2012
221.2 - Monday, January 23, 2012
213.6 - Monday, January 30, 2012
217.4 – Monday, February 6,2012
210.0 – Monday, February 13, 2012

I’ve lost 19 pounds in 6 weeks.

I’m disappointed in my total weight loss, but I’m thrilled with the change in my body composition. I’m getting fat callipered in a couple of weeks, but the scale at home is telling me that I’ve gone from 29% body fat to 23% body fat in 6 weeks.

Only 30 pounds more to go...


M
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 05:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

And if anyone is curious, the 2 weeks when my weight spiked up was cause of 2 cheat weekends that I don’t have the willpower to give up yet. It’s damn near impossible for me to stay on point when I’m partying all weekend. \:D

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 05:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

happens to the best of us, and nothing wrong with a cheat meal or 2... what's crazy is how you dropped almost 8 the following week after the 23rd...

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/15/12 05:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice work M. I fell off the horse this weekend too but it didn't hurt me...yet. Still down 12 lbs.

M
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 05:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
happens to the best of us, and nothing wrong with a cheat meal or 2... what's crazy is how you dropped almost 8 the following week after the 23rd...


I weigh myself daily but I only record my weight Monday morning to help keep me accountable over the weekend. But recording the weight on Monday shows some false volatility in my weight loss. Here’s a typical trend:

Friday - 213
Saturday - 215
Sunday - 218
Monday - 218
Tuesday - 214
Wednesday - 212

The weekend cheat increases my weight 5 to 7 pounds, but I lose that in 2 days. My uneducated theory: I'm not packing on fat during my cheat days, I'm packing on food, water, blood, feces, etc. which my body promptly dispels when I get back on track. That's why you see so much variability when I record my weight on Monday. If I recorded on Friday, it would be a nice linear decline of 2 or 3 pounds a week.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 05:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

could be retaining some water if you're carb intake increases dramatically... my weight will flucuate after a carb heavy weekend as well...

i doubt it has anything to do with blood, feces or food though... i guess if you're not taking a dump for a couple days it could affect it though...


M
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 07:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i doubt it has anything to do with blood, feces or food though... i guess if you're not taking a dump for a couple days it could affect it though...


Out of curiosity I googled this and a lot of the weight is in fact your body adjusting its fluid balance (blood and water) to help digest and manage going from weeks of healthy 1,200 calorie days to a 4,000 calorie cheat day filled with copious amounts of fat and salt. Couple this with the weight (2x or 3x) that 4,00 calories of food brings and it's not unreasonable.

So like I said, it's probably water, blood, food and feces. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. \:D


M
(Post Master Supreme)
02/15/12 07:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Nice work M. I fell off the horse this weekend too but it didn't hurt me...yet. Still down 12 lbs.


Good stuff, man! Keep it up.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 08:28 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
it's all speculation unless you have an accurate body comp before and after...



I have a formulated comp based off of caliper measurements when I started so we'll see how the numbers vary Cory.


shaftid
(Sr Member)
02/16/12 09:49 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
Average weight was 213 lbs.

800 calories is enough to provide ample protein and fats. Glycogen will come from fat stores. It's not a *huge* deal until you get to the point where your body has such low body fat that it really resists giving it up. So, nutritional support is very different from individual to individual, as is recovery.


Do you still write extensively anywhere? I know you have that one website, but I don't think it has been updated. You always have pretty knowledgeable Berkhan-like opinions.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 10:06 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dudes, I still believe it is possible to gain muscle while losing fat. I did it while doing low carb. I took in quite a bit of calories but it was all protein and fat.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 10:44 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

New low weight for me his morning! 171.2lbs!

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 02:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole
Dudes, I still believe it is possible to gain muscle while losing fat. I did it while doing low carb. I took in quite a bit of calories but it was all protein and fat.


while it is possible to build muscle and lose fat, it takes a person experienced in training and a diet where you are cycling your carbs to really accomplish this...

carb up on training days, carb down on non training days... and even on your training days you should avoid carbs later in the day unless you are a late evening trainer, which affords you the luxury of still have late night carbs and not storing them as fat, hopefully...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 02:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Andy Rooneymanian
New low weight for me his morning! 171.2lbs!


what are you trying to get to...?


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 02:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Andy Rooneymanian
New low weight for me his morning! 171.2lbs!


what are you trying to get to...?



I don't really have a set number in my head, it's not really about the scale much anymore...I just want to continue to get rid of the fat around my belly. I do feel that if I get down to 165lbs, that's light enough and I should probably increase my calories at that point...I mean I'm 6'1"...weighing in the 150s would be nuts I think. I started out at 194.2lbs.

I'm excited about my next (photo) update in a little over two weeks...I feel like I'm really starting to see some results with the lifting/dieting.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 02:24 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole
Dudes, I still believe it is possible to gain muscle while losing fat. I did it while doing low carb. I took in quite a bit of calories but it was all protein and fat.


I am going to have to agree with you. Everyone is different.
I eat around 2000 calories a day (and yes, I am eating carbs) and have been losing weight, inches and my strength gains are fantastic. Lifts are increasing every week, as well as my overall conditioning

I don't think there is a perfect one-fits-all plan, sometimes you need to work a few to see how they fit with your own lifestyle and goals.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 02:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Andy Rooneymanian

I don't really have a set number in my head, it's not really about the scale much anymore...I just want to continue to get rid of the fat around my belly. I do feel that if I get down to 165lbs, that's light enough and I should probably increase my calories at that point...I mean I'm 6'1"...weighing in the 150s would be nuts I think. I started out at 194.2lbs.

I'm excited about my next (photo) update in a little over two weeks...I feel like I'm really starting to see some results with the lifting/dieting.


6'1" at 165 is nuts IMO...

If you want to get somewhat muscular i'd stop worrying about losing anymore weight and start trying to build muscle...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 02:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

190.6 as of today.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 02:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Andy Rooneymanian

I don't really have a set number in my head, it's not really about the scale much anymore...I just want to continue to get rid of the fat around my belly. I do feel that if I get down to 165lbs, that's light enough and I should probably increase my calories at that point...I mean I'm 6'1"...weighing in the 150s would be nuts I think. I started out at 194.2lbs.

I'm excited about my next (photo) update in a little over two weeks...I feel like I'm really starting to see some results with the lifting/dieting.


6'1" at 165 is nuts IMO...

If you want to get somewhat muscular i'd stop worrying about losing anymore weight and start trying to build muscle...


I'm more concerned with losing the fat than getting somewhat muscular...so I'm focusing on that first and then I'll start building up. I know people say that you can do both and that having more muscle will actually help burn the fat away but for me, it's just better to do it in steps...I like structured setups like that. \:\)


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 03:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: shaftid
 Originally Posted By: Silock
Average weight was 213 lbs.

800 calories is enough to provide ample protein and fats. Glycogen will come from fat stores. It's not a *huge* deal until you get to the point where your body has such low body fat that it really resists giving it up. So, nutritional support is very different from individual to individual, as is recovery.


Do you still write extensively anywhere? I know you have that one website, but I don't think it has been updated. You always have pretty knowledgeable Berkhan-like opinions.


I did until I started working on my master's thesis. Now I just don't have the energy. And I'll be going straight into my doctorate after that, so I'm not sure when I'll get back to it.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 03:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Andy Rooneymanian

I'm more concerned with losing the fat than getting somewhat muscular...so I'm focusing on that first and then I'll start building up. I know people say that you can do both and that having more muscle will actually help burn the fat away but for me, it's just better to do it in steps...I like structured setups like that. \:\)


i'll just point back to what Art told you, even though harsh, he was pretty much dead on with his assessment...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 08:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Inexpensive but good rice cooker...?

Show me...!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 08:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I have a Zojirushi NS-TGC10 Fuzzy logic that a Japanese friend recommended. It's a big one and I think it was around $150 IIRC.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 08:43 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

and im not afraid of white rice either so what brand are you all using...? i'll use a mix of white and brown depending on when i'd be eating it...

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/16/12 10:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

asian rice, don't even think the shit has a brand, same thing they make sushi with.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 08:10 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So how many of you guys are eating regular oatmeal...? How do you prep it...? I swear when I pop it in the microwave the shit bubbles out over the bowl...

First time I used water and it tasted like ASS... Today I used milk and it was much better... Flavored it with some cinnamon and Stevia... Wasn't bad...

Any other suggestions..?


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 08:29 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

all microwaves are different, seems I can never replicate the oatmeal I can get in those big catering jugs it's like perfect, not too dry and hard but not all wet and lumpy. Normally I do 1/2 cup of dry oats (no fancy steel cut shit) (or a packet of some organic brown sugar shit) but I like the bigger whole oats instead of instant.

I heat it for at least 1 minute and a half in a bowl bigger to compensate for the bubble over stuff you mention. seems I get the perfect bowl that way. I don't like using stevia or splenda in oatmeal, if you're going to have sugar might as well just put a tbsp (strict) of brown sugar in there and toss in a few raisins.

I prefer the packet versions from ralphs generic organic oatmeal, no corn fructose shit and 120cals a packet. 1 packet and a protein shake for breakfast was the norm before I decided not to go processed.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 08:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah I'm using the Quaker shit in the cardboard tube container... It's about as bland as you can get...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 08:58 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

With my mic, I had to cook it in increments. 30 seconds, remove and stir. Repeat until done.

65_289
(Post Master Sr)
02/17/12 09:20 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I eat oats raw. Little water to make it chewable and that's it.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 09:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Quaker oats + sugar free syrup + imitation butter flavor = low cal winning

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 09:49 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've got oatmeal down to a science...I'm actually cooking some up right now and will post my method, it's so freaking delicious and my favorite meal of the day, I really look forward to it every morning. \:\)

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 11:00 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Alright...so here's the scoop on Oatmeal...

First, you have to get the right stuff, and that's Coach's Oats from Costco. It's all natural, has great texture, and tastes really good.

There's two versions here...first my wife's with milk and mine with water and other good stuff.

You also need a large pasta plate so that the oatmeal does not spill over. I use a 12" plate...


Add 1/3 of a cup of Coach's Oats oatmeal...


One cup of milk (adjust the amount of milk to how runny you like your oatmeal)...


8 minutes in the microwave @ 80% power. No need to stir while it's cooking, and comes out looking like this...


Let it cool a little, stir and enjoy. \:\)


Now my breakfast...same quantity of oatmeal but with more water because of the added protein later...


Same cooking time, and when it's ready, 1 scoop of vanilla protein powder...


Mix the protein powder and then mix in 1 tablespoon of crushed walnuts...


Final step is to sprinkle some cinnamon on top and you're done. It tastes so damn good, it's like dessert every morning...it's a huge quantity, so it's very filling, and it's 350 calories and 33g of protein.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 11:39 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So I'm pretty excited about this...I know that the body scale isn't exactly accurate when it comes to measuring body fat, but I have to assume that it's at least accurate to itself when comparing one day with another.

Jan. 17th vs Feb. 17th...down 4.3lbs in total weight, but body fat is down 6.1lbs from 32.9lbs to 26.8lbs, which would mean 1.8lbs of muscle gained. Possible? Realistic? \:\)



PA2KFBPSI
(Post Master)
02/17/12 11:49 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Andy Rooneymanian


Jan. 17th vs Feb. 17th...down 4.3lbs in total weight, but body fat is down 6.1lbs from 32.9lbs to 26.8lbs, which would mean 1.8lbs of muscle gained. Possible? Realistic? \:\)



My rule of thumb for max muscle gain in 1 pound per week. Honestly, it really depends on your diet, exercise and body...each person is different. I would consider .45 pounds per week to be realistic if you were on the weight pretty hard and feeding your muscles properly.

I have not had a lot of lunch gaining muscle without gaining weight/fat, still trying for optimal balance of calories and burn rate.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 02:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

a pound of muscle gained in a week...?



Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 02:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That's . . . optimistic.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 02:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
That's . . . optimistic.


The pound per week...or the 0.45lb a week for me? \:D


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 02:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It's not impossible. However, you must account for some error in the readings.

But, really, I wouldn't worry about the specifics. You're definitely heading in the right direction at a very good pace. Enjoy the ride.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 02:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: Andy Rooneymanian
 Originally Posted By: Silock
That's . . . optimistic.


The pound per week...or the 0.45lb a week for me? \:D
Are you suggesting you can put on 25lbs of muscle in a year?

PA2 is suggesting 50lbs...


Not really because it wouldn't be a linear line, more like a curved one. For a beginner, I would imagine that you could put on 1.5-2lbs of muscle for the first 2-3 months (maybe) but then it would gradually get less and less as you get past that initial beginner gain.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 03:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You might like my breakfast oatmeal recipe:

Prepared oatmeal
on top:
1/2 cup raspberries, or any other berry (I use frozen)
1 tbsp milled flax
2 tbsp toasted almond slivers

It's seriously orgasm in a bowl.....for breakfast


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 03:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i try and avoid as much fat as i can in my breakfast cause my training is typically about 1.5 hours afterwards, and want that insulin spike... fats (even healthy ones) will slow the digestion...

even if it wasn't a traning day i'd still try and avoid the combo of fats and carbs during a fat loss cycle... that's for me personally...


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 04:10 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

This is right after an hour of Crossfit for me.

Because of my eating disorder, just getting a regular meal in without throwing it up is a good meal. I'm not interested in any sort of fancy rules for my eating. I eat to live, stay healthy and enjoy my life. Screw food rules.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 04:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia
This is right after an hour of Crossfit for me.

Because of my eating disorder, just getting a regular meal in without throwing it up is a good meal. I'm not interested in any sort of fancy rules for my eating. I eat to live, stay healthy and enjoy my life. Screw food rules.


which is why i clarified my statement with "that's for me personally"... i don't know your medical history, so i don't pretend to tell you what is right for you...

so you're training on an empty stomach then...? do you find it difficult to complete your training or go as hard while fasting...?


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 04:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Oh, I hope that didnt come off as agressive, sorry. Thats just me personally too \:\) I wanted to share in case others aren't too strict on their "eat this with that, and not this with that"

Nope, I train on about 1/3 cup unsweetened applesauce and a bit of water. My Crossfit workouts are at 7am, Monday to Friday

I have tried different combinations of food (protein shakes, toast, etc.) and I always end up throwing up in the middle of my workouts (not self induced).
This works for me. I don't know anyone that comes in for the 7am that actually eats. We are all empty stomaching it that early in the morning.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 04:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So you're training 5 consecutive days then...? i'm not real familiar with the CF stuff, so I'm just wondering if that's the norm in the CF culture...

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 05:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Indeed I do.

Depends on what people want to get out of it. The coachs plan for 6 days a week, so I could potentially do that many days - the only reason I don't is because I work on Saturdays.

Some people do it a few days a week, but all of the programming is meant to allow for 6 days.
I would say about 25% of the members at my place do unlimited, the majority do 3 days a week.

I also do hot yoga 3-4 days a week and will be starting some running soon too. Some people just take it easy, but I have a goal to progress in this sport, so I am doing it 5 days a week (and when school ends, I will be doing the Olympic lifting training once a week too).
I am very fortunate to train with an amazing coach and some incredible athletes that compete at the provincial level, so I have some great role models \:\)
Honestly, I have never been happier. This place has completely changed my view on fitness, community and healthy living as a whole \:D


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 05:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia
This is right after an hour of Crossfit for me.

Because of my eating disorder, just getting a regular meal in without throwing it up is a good meal. I'm not interested in any sort of fancy rules for my eating. I eat to live, stay healthy and enjoy my life. Screw food rules.


Oh, how this makes me so sad. \:\(

I fully realize there's no logic or reason to your disorder. With fitness, what you eat vs. the results you get and the way you feel during and after your workout are inextricably linked. Just a positive thought for you. \:\)

As long as you don't become and "exercise bulemic" you're good.

I just want you to be properly fueled so you can get the great results you're striving for.

I can speak for our little gang and say that we're all rooting for you and we want you to be healthy and happy. \:\)


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 05:10 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
So you're training 5 consecutive days then...? i'm not real familiar with the CF stuff, so I'm just wondering if that's the norm in the CF culture...


Most programming is dependent on the person doing it, if you're adept 5 days in a row should be enough varied programming. The only thing I really can't get behind is some of the programming I feel conflicts with muscle recovery. I've been taught even by bodybuilders that the muscle group you worked out on needs at least 72 hours of recovery before hitting another workout with that group or it will hamper growth.

But the crossfit training seems to throw that theory right out of the window, one day we'll do cleans (full squat) and the next we'll do 2 rep max front squat which is essentially the same lift minus the clean. All of the same muscle groups are utilized. Or like how I did 75 kettlebell thrusters, then had a workout the next day where I had to do 30 overhead squats while all of those muscle groups are still recovering.

That is my ONLY gripe with crossfit programming. But then again the bulgarian training method doesn't call for rest days at all, the theory behind that is if you had to squat your body weight 50 times to save one of your family members lives would you be able to? So with said mentality what would you have to do daily to build that kind of strength. A garbage man moves 100+ pound bins daily, his job doesn't give him a rest day. etc, etc, etc.

Some days I go in feeling like I've been gang raped and after a workout it's like everything has been reset, stretched, and in less pain. So I don't know what to believe but the training we're doing now is way too fucking intense for my body to handle 5 days in a row with proper sleep and nutrition since I'm cutting.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 05:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Thanks hon

And yes, I complete understand the whole nutrition thing. I have a wonderful nutritionist, and I follow basically along the Canada Food guide. It's been just fine for my training.
If I were to go back to getting overly concerned about fats with carbs and no fruit before 6pm and no vegetables without chocolate cake, it would just propel me further into the disorder (as I already have done)

This way of eating of competely healthy, well balanced and even more important, something I can do for the rest of my life.

The major aspect of my bulimia is anxiety. If I get too stressed or caught up on things, I purge. So, by having my nutritionist set out basic, easy to do parameters, I don't hyper focus on things.
Like I have said before, it's nearly impossible to be bulimic and do Crossfit. I have only had one "relapse" over about 3 days since I started Crossfit, and it took me almost a week to recover physically from it.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 05:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia
Thanks hon

And yes, I complete understand the whole nutrition thing. I have a wonderful nutritionist, and I follow basically along the Canada Food guide. It's been just fine for my training.
If I were to go back to getting overly concerned about fats with carbs and no fruit before 6pm and no vegetables without chocolate cake, it would just propel me further into the disorder (as I already have done)

This way of eating of competely healthy, well balanced and even more important, something I can do for the rest of my life.

The major aspect of my bulimia is anxiety. If I get too stressed or caught up on things, I purge. So, by having my nutritionist set out basic, easy to do parameters, I don't hyper focus on things.
Like I have said before, it's nearly impossible to be bulimic and do Crossfit. I have only had one "relapse" over about 3 days since I started Crossfit, and it took me almost a week to recover physically from it.




DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 05:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137

muscle recovery


this was what I was kind of wondering about...

i know on a 5x5 you are working the same body parts all week, but have a break between each workout and the middle workout of the week is a very light version of the bookend workouts...

you mention the bulgarians and no rest, but are you referring to the olympic lifters or every day joe schmoe... two completely different types of people there...


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I think it's very important to remember that each Crossfit gym has their own style of training, based on the Crossfit system. What Wayne does is not the same as what I do, though once in a while we will do the same WOD during the year, or month.
Maybe I will post up a week of training from my gym for you to see. Would you be interested in looking at it?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

sure, i'm always interested in seeing what others are doing...

what's WOD...?


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

workout of the day.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:38 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I do almost all of my training on an empty stomach. I just personally can't stand the idea of running 12 miles, or sitting on the bike for an hour with something sitting in my belly.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well, it typically only takes about 1.5-2 hours for food to leave the stomach, but yeah i wouldn't want to do all that on a "full stomach"... when i used the term, i should have said in a fasted state and not empty stomach... wrong terminology...

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

moved it to the workout thread

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
well, it typically only takes about 1.5-2 hours for food to leave the stomach, but yeah i wouldn't want to do all that on a "full stomach"... when i used the term, i should have said in a fasted state and not empty stomach... wrong terminology...


Even so....I do my bike workout at around noon, which is about 15 hours after my last meal (dinner the night before), then eat a lunch of about 600 calories, then do my run about 4 hours later, then dinner and bed.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 06:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So you're only eating 2x a day...? with all that activity, you gotta be dropping weight like a bad habit...

why are you only eating 2x a day...?


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 07:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
I do almost all of my training on an empty stomach. I just personally can't stand the idea of running 12 miles, or sitting on the bike for an hour with something sitting in my belly.


My fear of bonking prevents that. I eat something light and hour or so before I get on the bike. If it's a longer ride, I'll do an energy/granola bar 1.5 hours in.

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
well, it typically only takes about 1.5-2 hours for food to leave the stomach, but yeah i wouldn't want to do all that on a "full stomach"... when i used the term, i should have said in a fasted state and not empty stomach... wrong terminology...


Even so....I do my bike workout at around noon, which is about 15 hours after my last meal (dinner the night before), then eat a lunch of about 600 calories, then do my run about 4 hours later, then dinner and bed.


For your level of activity/level of fitness, it doesn't seem like you're fueling yourself enough. /notanexpert


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/17/12 07:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i'd say not even close unless that dinner is a huge meal containing over 1000 cals...

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 02:28 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dinner is fairly good sized....around 800 calories I'd guess. I'll also have a a snack in the late evening. I'm right around 1600 calories in food for the day.

I've never been a big breakfast fan and the way my daily schedule works out, I don't feel like eating my lunch till after I get my bike workout in. I like having the idea of a nice dinner waiting for me at the end of my run in the evening, lol motivation....but I've never suffered from a lack of energy or come close to bonking. My speed and endurance have increased in spades, so I know it's working. Pair that with my upper body routine and I'm in the best shape of my life. I am currently trying to hit a vanity goal for our trip to Hawaii in April so I'm eating a bit less than normal.


Of course all this changes when I get into my peak IM training. When those trainer rides go from an hour to 3, the runs go from 35 a week to 50 a week, and I'm adding another 3 hours a week in swim training.....I eat non stop. \:D


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 06:21 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

that's nuts, your metabolism must be slow as hell dude to run off of 2 meals a day. I'm eating a bunch of small meals or snacking on the same meal for a few hours to keep my metabolism burning.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 08:38 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Meal frequency has no effect on metabolism. This is true.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 08:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So is this more of eating to sustain or eating due to hunger?

Some days I'm not hungry but I don't feel any loss of energy when I do not eat.


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 10:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm down 12 pounds for the year. I figure I weighed in at 170 on the new year. I tipped the scales at 158 this morning. My hand held fat monitor is giving me wonky results (I know they lose what little accuracy they had at 13% range) so I plan on getting pinched or seeing how much a session in the egg will cost me.

It's exciting seeing how lean I can get. I still feel energetic. The only negative effects I have felt is the artificial plateau I hit on my lifts. I'm now 30 pounds heavier than my girlfriend which has her all sorts of upset


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 11:32 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well I've only been using my scale to measure body fat which oddly has only moved from 31 to 27 with a loss of 30 lbs... I know that's not legit...

So I used one of those handheld jobs this morning at the gym and read at 21 which I found to be much more reasonable...

I received a package yesterday with my Truetein in it... The box weighed 18 pounds and as I was carrying it to the kitchen I was thinking man this is a good amount of weight and then thought that I've dropped 30 pounds since end of November... To think I was lugging around almost double the weight of this box was pretty crazy, and the body is pretty crazy how you can change it like we can...

I received a jug of the Cinnabon Trutein, tried it this morning and it was pretty good... Mixed easily but I use a hand mixer not a shaker bottle... Taste was pretty decent, one of the best I've had...

Also got a jug of milk chocolate Iso-ology, which I just tried post workout... Mixed just as well, and taste was on par with the Cinnabon... I'll be adding some ON creatine to this for my post workout shake then... Shouldn't do anything to the texture or flavor...

Last was a 5lb bag of Chocolate Peanut Butter Caseinator... The worst of the group as far as taste but not "bad"... Next time I'll go with the regular chocolate... An observation on this was the texture of the powder itself... Compared to the ON I've been using this stuff is very "fluffy"...? A 5 bag bag is ALOT bigger than a 5lb tub on the ON casein...

Overall I'm impressed with the initial purchase... Now I'll see how they work for me...


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 11:42 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

The handheld fat monitors can be fairly accurate in the higher fat %. They work by sending a weak electrical signal through the body. Fat will conduct this signal much faster (I think that's how they work, not going to look it up) therefore the higher the fat % the quicker the signal. You can mess with the results being dehydrated though.

They lose their accuracy once you get into the low %, 13 and below and the results are not as accurate.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 11:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well, the foot scale one is obviously not so accurate, as it's reading 6-7% more than the handheld job... and i know i'm not 27-28% fat... can defintiely see 21-22%...

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 11:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
So is this more of eating to sustain or eating due to hunger?

Some days I'm not hungry but I don't feel any loss of energy when I do not eat.


No need to force yourself to eat if you aren't hungry.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 12:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Latest pic. Not a whole lot different than the last, but then again I'm not expecting drastic changes anymore. If I squinted I can almost make out some upper ABS. \:\)


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 12:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
So is this more of eating to sustain or eating due to hunger?

Some days I'm not hungry but I don't feel any loss of energy when I do not eat.


No need to force yourself to eat if you aren't hungry.


That's what I thought. Especially since I am feeling no adverse affects from a lack of a meal or 2.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 12:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

if you're eating cleaner, you're likely to be less hungry...

it's when we eat that shit, we typically end up feeling hungry alot more...


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 12:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Latest pic. Not a whole lot different than the last, but then again I'm not expecting drastic changes anymore. If I squinted I can almost make out some upper ABS. \:\)

I think if you were to really hammer out a great core routine, leg lifts and sit-ups with weighted sit-ups and planks, you would see an improvement in your triathlon performance.

At your weight, developing rockstar abs would only be a benefit versus a hinderance.


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/18/12 12:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
So is this more of eating to sustain or eating due to hunger?

Some days I'm not hungry but I don't feel any loss of energy when I do not eat.


No need to force yourself to eat if you aren't hungry.


That's what I thought. Especially since I am feeling no adverse affects from a lack of a meal or 2.

If I spend the day at Starbucks studying, I will realize at the end of the day my "meals" for the day consisted of a latte. We don't have to eat 3x a day. There are days I won't eat at all. Just don't feel like it I suppose. There are other days where I eat 3 meals plus several apples and bananas as I'm just very hungry.

Intermittent fasting, as Silock as pointed out many times, has some great health benefits.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/19/12 12:18 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Oh, you fuckers posting oatmeal recipes. Fucking NOM. Back in the day I used to dump a buttload of oatmeal in a big bowl with water and a giant spoonful of peanutbutter and nuke it for a couple minutes. Then I would throw in 2 protein scoops and 2 packs of Splenda and eat it while jizzing my pants.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/19/12 10:25 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I have to be 189 today, I have to be 189 today, I feel like I'm in the 180's today.



DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/19/12 11:10 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

so what is your total loss since you started Wayne...?

keep it up... when is your challenge done...?


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/19/12 11:13 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Back 5
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom
Latest pic. Not a whole lot different than the last, but then again I'm not expecting drastic changes anymore. If I squinted I can almost make out some upper ABS. \:\)

I think if you were to really hammer out a great core routine, leg lifts and sit-ups with weighted sit-ups and planks, you would see an improvement in your triathlon performance.

At your weight, developing rockstar abs would only be a benefit versus a hinderance.


Hey buddy...Fuck You!


Based on hour suggestion, I did planks yesterday,and now I'm sore as hell!


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/19/12 03:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
See, planks are mediocre bullshit core works. Why not just do squats and some weighted situps?


google hollow body position, then look up tabata sets. then tell me doing tabata hollow bodies are bullshit if you can actually do them without putting your legs down and arching your back. Not being a dick but core work is serious business, plus Chris works out at home, he doesn't globo it up. He could buy an abmat and a 20kg plate and do some weighted sit ups but why if he's on a retarded cut to lose body fat and mass?

@Cory : I started at 212lbs and 29 percent body fat, today after my workout I am 190.6 lbs and I have not been caliper measured since. it was taken originally from the back of the neck, bicep, tricep, chest, stomach, lower back(love handles, quad, calf, and forearm and totaled by accumulation.

61.83lbs of fat mass supposedly and 150.17lbs under my blanket of fat. I still think we should've had a dunk tank come out instead of doing the measurements so everyone could accurately depict their weights, half of the fucking girls got all suicidal when they all had higher body fat then the guys in the 30's. One went so far to get tunk dipped, sought a nutritionist, etc, etc.

challenge ends next wednesday, but I'll still be on the diet to reach my fitness goal either way.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/19/12 04:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
See, planks are mediocre bullshit core works. Why not just do squats and some weighted situps?


Well, its obvious they're doing something since I can feel it today.

Not going to pay for a gym any time soon, and don't want to buy any more weights than the 2 30 pound dumbells I just did. I'm doing situps already...not weighted though.


Back 5
(Post Master Supreme)
02/19/12 04:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Power lifting will certainly get your core strong, but it's totally unnecessary for ironman races. Mr. Mom (I forgot how to spell Ceircart) needs to have a strong enough core to get him through a 2 mile swim quickly. Keeping your spine in line for a 2 hour swim is tough! That's all endurance...same with keeping a strong core for the bike and marathon.

Power lifting he will not be doing. 100 sit-ups and 5 minute planks? Most definitely.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 09:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

If you're ever stuck at cheesecake factory for brunch on sunday the energy breakfast is fucking legit for a power meal.

egg whites, 2 breasts of chicken with saute mushrooms and 2 tomato slices (and my asshole lifter buddy putting pork chilaquiles in my plate (along with half of a butter smothered blueberry pancake lol. I crushed all of it.



Cheesegoggles
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 11:39 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: Back 5
Power lifting he will not be doing. 100 sit-ups and 5 minute planks? Most definitely.
OK, fair enough...but it's not like he would be putting on a ton of muscle weight. We both know how hard that is realistically. Why not do both?

Maybe its just me and my body, but the heavy squats and deads compromise my running. My low back is constantly fatigued when I squat three times per week and, when I run, the first incline hurts like hell. May just be me as I have some pre-existing low back issues anyway. I personally could not effectively do heavy lifting and train for a distance race.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 12:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: Back 5
Power lifting he will not be doing. 100 sit-ups and 5 minute planks? Most definitely.
OK, fair enough...but it's not like he would be putting on a ton of muscle weight. We both know how hard that is realistically. Why not do both?


i think you missed the point where he was not going to join a gym... the man has his own plan, just let it be...

ideally weight training would most definitely make him a better athlete, but he obviously does not want to go down that path...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 01:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: CheeseGoggles
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: Back 5
Power lifting he will not be doing. 100 sit-ups and 5 minute planks? Most definitely.
OK, fair enough...but it's not like he would be putting on a ton of muscle weight. We both know how hard that is realistically. Why not do both?

Maybe its just me and my body, but the heavy squats and deads compromise my running. My low back is constantly fatigued when I squat three times per week and, when I run, the first incline hurts like hell. May just be me as I have some pre-existing low back issues anyway. I personally could not effectively do heavy lifting and train for a distance race.


You have a weak core; that's why it hurts.


Cheesegoggles
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 01:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: CheeseGoggles
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: Back 5
Power lifting he will not be doing. 100 sit-ups and 5 minute planks? Most definitely.
OK, fair enough...but it's not like he would be putting on a ton of muscle weight. We both know how hard that is realistically. Why not do both?

Maybe its just me and my body, but the heavy squats and deads compromise my running. My low back is constantly fatigued when I squat three times per week and, when I run, the first incline hurts like hell. May just be me as I have some pre-existing low back issues anyway. I personally could not effectively do heavy lifting and train for a distance race.


You have a weak core; that's why it hurts.

I also have two herniated disks.

I've run three half marathons in the last two years and done plenty of other pain free running over the last two years. A weak core may contribute, but the only time in the last few years I have had low back pain has been recently trying to run on occasion while also lifting heavy.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 02:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You should check out http://www.bulletproofback.com/

It really helped me with my lower back pain when I had it. I never had surgery or herniated disks or anything, but I know of other people who have used this after surgery with fantastic results.

Another thing that may be contributing is that you don't have very good form while lifting heavy, and that tweaks your back, making it uncomfortable to run.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 03:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: Back 5
Power lifting he will not be doing. 100 sit-ups and 5 minute planks? Most definitely.
OK, fair enough...but it's not like he would be putting on a ton of muscle weight. We both know how hard that is realistically. Why not do both?


i think you missed the point where he was not going to join a gym... the man has his own plan, just let it be...

ideally weight training would most definitely make him a better athlete, but he obviously does not want to go down that path...
I think you missed the point where I was discussing for my own benefit, not necessarily for mom.


then why refer to "he" in your response...?


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 04:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

BTW--up a pound from last week--196 now.

Between Valentine's Day and a trip to NYC that involved a lot of alcohol, this doesn't surprise me.

Back to the grind...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 10:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

damn Fastnacht donut today... i knew i was going to have one, so just enjoyed it, and then went to the gym and banged out 45 on the treadmill for 500 cals... adios donut...

at what bodyfat number should you start seeing some vascularity in your arms...? it's odd, cause my upper abs are starting to come out ever so slightly but not getting alot of muscle separation... been so long since i've been "in shape" i don't remember when things start coming into play...

although i guess i was never a really vascular guy though, it may be a moot point...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/20/12 11:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I guess it's different for everyone, I have no idea what my bodyfat is now but I've gotten pretty vascular this last month of so, my bicep veins are finally starting to show, trying to push so they're on all the time instead of when I pick shit up or brush my teeth violently lol.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 12:42 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My calves are pretty shredded these days. Arms get fairly vascular post-workout, but overall, my bodyfat (especially in the midsection) is still too high to be considered vascular/shredded.

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 08:45 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I am going to get my 6 month BodPod done next month. Interested to see how the numbers will look

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 09:23 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That BodPod thing came to my gym right when I was starting to lift and I was going to give it a try but then I read a study online that said its widely inaccurate so I passed. How you heard otherwise? How did it work out for you?

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 09:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I believe (and I could be wrong), that's it's pretty gold standard for body fat calculations.
However, I know that there are a few things that can mix up the readings, like moving in the machine, altered breathing and hydration status.

Worked great for me the first time, and since I started with it, I will continue to use it.
I have used the Tanita machines before, but depending on the setting, you can get a full 5% variance in readings.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 09:41 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Here is that study I read where they claim "The individual error rate for the Bod Pod can be unacceptably high in some individuals, and the Bod Pod is horrible for tracking change over time."

http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=175

Other studies show an error rate of 2% on average I guess so who knows.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 09:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
damn Fastnacht donut today... i knew i was going to have one, so just enjoyed it, and then went to the gym and banged out 45 on the treadmill for 500 cals... adios donut...

at what bodyfat number should you start seeing some vascularity in your arms...? it's odd, cause my upper abs are starting to come out ever so slightly but not getting alot of muscle separation... been so long since i've been "in shape" i don't remember when things start coming into play...

although i guess i was never a really vascular guy though, it may be a moot point...


You probably burned that donut off in your sleep. /metabolism


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 12:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
damn Fastnacht donut today... i knew i was going to have one, so just enjoyed it, and then went to the gym and banged out 45 on the treadmill for 500 cals... adios donut...

at what bodyfat number should you start seeing some vascularity in your arms...? it's odd, cause my upper abs are starting to come out ever so slightly but not getting alot of muscle separation... been so long since i've been "in shape" i don't remember when things start coming into play...

although i guess i was never a really vascular guy though, it may be a moot point...


You probably burned that donut off in your sleep. /metabolism


You can't out train your diet, it's just one donut, the apocolypse isn't going to come for you, just remember if you're doing a carb deplete diet and you introduce something like that into your system, shit gets hectic and you absorb it asap lol.

BRO SCIENCE CERTIFIED

anyway here is a shot of my left arm (non dominant pre shower, worked out about an hour ago.) Stomach area is looking pretty good too, just need to get rid of the droopy boobs.



Once I'm skinny enough to see a line going down the middle of my abdomen, I'll know I've hit an ideal weight.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

yeah see i don't get that stuff really... and i don't have the droopy boobs at all, and my stomach is getting pretty flat...

i ended up being down in weight this morning afterall...

i did a strategic fast this morning too... i had class from 8-11, but skipped breakfast and then had 30 mintues extra to kill so put in a session of HIIT after class, (got it out of the way for the week, I only do 1 session right now)... then had a protien shake, some bacon and eggs...

grilled chicken salad for lunch tonight, and some celery and pb for snack later... will get in 40 minutes of steady state tonight after work... i figure i'll drop like 2 pounds today alone...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
yeah see i don't get that stuff really... and i don't have the droopy boobs at all, and my stomach is getting pretty flat...

i ended up being down in weight this morning afterall...

i did a strategic fast this morning too... i had class from 8-11, but skipped breakfast and then had 30 mintues extra to kill so put in a session of HIIT after class, (got it out of the way for the week, I only do 1 session right now)... then had a protien shake, some bacon and eggs...

grilled chicken salad for lunch tonight, and some celery and pb for snack later... will get in 40 minutes of steady state tonight after work... i figure i'll drop like 2 pounds today alone...


2 pounds of water ;\)

Looking good, Wayne!


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i don't think i'm not consuming a large enough quantity of carbs to drop that much water, but the number at the end of the week, is the most important to me anyhow...

started this morning at 221.6... ideally by next monday i'll be around 218...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

stupid left manboob!

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i don't think i'm not consuming a large enough quantity of carbs to drop that much water, but the number at the end of the week, is the most important to me anyhow...

started this morning at 221.6... ideally by next monday i'll be around 218...


So, you honestly believe you're going to drop 2 pounds of fat today? That's a 7,000 calorie deficit, man.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

no man, i was being sarcastic with the 2lb reference in general...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
stupid left manboob!


have you always had the manboob thing Wayne...? i know some people just tend to gather fat in that region...

were you a thin or heavy kid...?


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
no man, i was being sarcastic with the 2lb reference in general...


Guess I need to check the batteries in my detector.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 01:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

ehhh, it happens... ;\)

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 02:10 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: 137
stupid left manboob!


have you always had the manboob thing Wayne...? i know some people just tend to gather fat in that region...

were you a thin or heavy kid...?


super fat kid, i've always had stretchy skin because of it. Blessing and a curse since my only stretch marks I started to get were in my inner thighs by my balls of all places and my quads once I was in 240lb territory.

new years 2010 right before I walked into the doors of my crossfit gym and 3 months later into crossfit.

When I initially developed acid reflux and also got bulimia as a side effect I dropped down to like 140lbs and was there for a while until I overcame the bulimia, still have the acid reflux and attacks now and then where I can't digest my food so it's either breath or puke.



So yeah I spent so many years skinny after being a fat kid, and not being able to enjoy food to kind of abusing the fact I could eat again. I know the lovehandles and the moobs and these weird fat wrinkles where my lats meet my obliques will be the last things that disappear.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 03:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

gotcha man... i was a chubby kid from like 10-16... i finally dropped a bunch of weight around 17, and had been farily thin for about the next 15 years, or more "normal" vs thin...

only in the last 2 years had i really gotten to a point where i was "fat"... my problem areas were always the love handles and lower belly, but i never REALLY tried to eliminate them in the past... this time that is my goal... i want to see the spearation of my abs and obliques when this is all said and done... from there, i'd just be happy to maintain a BF opf around 10% most of the year, maybe dip down into 7,8 over the summer months...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm going to try and cut down even more than I am in these pics. Not sure how long it will take, but I was able to drop about 15 lbs of weight (not sure how much was fat) in about 2 months to get to this point. I'm hoping it won't take me more than 3 to get past this point:





HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

\:\(

\:D


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:24 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What is that...about 6% BF? Looks good. /littlebithomo

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:25 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Probably closer to 8. Maybe 10.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

what's the benefit of going lower than that Drew...?

That looks defintiely lower than 10... The last few pounds typically take alot longer than the starting ones though, but with your activity level it shouldn't be an issue...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You did look leaner in the previous photo but like you said, if you are stronger now than then, you just need to cut and you'll certainly look better now than you did then.

No new pictures for me yet...not until March 5th but I'm excited about the next photos I take...it could be my imagination, but with the right lighting, you can just about see my upper abs starting to show. \:D I should be down in the 168lb range by that date too which will help further.


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hot damn Drew you are gorgeous

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
what's the benefit of going lower than that Drew...?


No benefit. I'm just curious, really. I kinda want to see how close I can get to that "pre-contest" look without doing stupid diets like triple-boiled chicken breast.

 Quote:
That looks defintiely lower than 10... The last few pounds typically take alot longer than the starting ones though, but with your activity level it shouldn't be an issue...


It might very well be. I have no idea. I have never used any kind of body fat measuring device.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia
Hot damn Drew you are gorgeous


Thanks! Now, PM me some reciprocal fapping material!


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Check out OT ;\)
They won't be up for long


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 04:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I was hoping for something more personal \:\)

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 05:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012


I don't need your wifey to be kicking my ass!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 05:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia
Check out OT ;\)
They won't be up for long


Post them in the "sexy pics" thread! I'm too lazy to track them down in OT.

No new pics from me. Next week. Heading into skatepark now...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/21/12 05:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia

I don't need your wifey to be kicking my ass!


Who ever said she didn't want to see them, too? \:\)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 02:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i had a very low "net calorie" number yesterday, did 2 cardio sessions, and actually went up in weight compared to the previous day... i found that odd... i wonder why...

Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 02:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I will get more ripped than Drew.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 02:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Lewis
I will get more ripped than Drew.


Me too.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 02:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i had a very low "net calorie" number yesterday, did 2 cardio sessions, and actually went up in weight compared to the previous day... i found that odd... i wonder why...


Water.


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 02:25 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: Lewis
I will get more ripped than Drew.


Me too.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 03:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i had a very low "net calorie" number yesterday, did 2 cardio sessions, and actually went up in weight compared to the previous day... i found that odd... i wonder why...


Water.


with less than 20g of carbs yesterday...?

i figured i'd lose water vs gain it... i'm just trying to see how my body reacts from day to dat to different macro intakes...


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 03:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Bro....

Science can't always prove everything, just keep at it man!!


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 03:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

oh there's some explanation man... ;\)

i'm just nosy...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 03:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

everything started as "broscience" at one point, and i for one i always intake stuff and decide for myself...

Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 04:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: Lewis
BroScience can't always prove everything
Exactly. \:D

Way to ruin my fun. \:\(


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 04:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Silock
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i had a very low "net calorie" number yesterday, did 2 cardio sessions, and actually went up in weight compared to the previous day... i found that odd... i wonder why...


Water.


with less than 20g of carbs yesterday...?

i figured i'd lose water vs gain it... i'm just trying to see how my body reacts from day to dat to different macro intakes...


Your body can retain water and fluctuate in weight despite trying to control your nutrients every day. How much you pissed out, how big of a dump you took, hormonal fluctuations, sodium, carbs . . . it all factors in. That's why weighing yourself day to day is generally discouraged; there's just too many factors and macro-cycles to properly account for.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 04:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
everything started as "broscience" at one point, and i for one i always intake stuff and decide for myself...


Maybe so, but I have always found it better to let an unbiased scientific viewpoint be my guide. Sometimes, we just want things to be true so badly that we can manipulate ourselves into believing just about anything.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 04:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

true, but isn't it also true that studies need funding from somewhere, and if we really dig, there may be a big company funding something they are ultimately trying to sell us...

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 04:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Absolutely, which is why unless something has been researched for years by lots of different people, it's probably best not to hop on the bandwagon. L-Arginine has been researched to death and has been inconclusive at BEST, while things like Creatine and BCAAs have as well, and been overwhelmingly shown to be effective.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/22/12 05:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm 188 as of today, 190.6 dry weight (pre workout)

Water is still up to a gallon and a half 2 gallons
food is steady around 1400-1700 cals depending on what lifts I need to do.

Today was a lot of running, decided not to wear the sweat suit today because it was like 80 degree's out. Didn't wan't to die lol.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 09:42 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hello 160s! \:D Officially 169.8lbs this morning!

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 10:00 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah man, I would say no higher than 8%. Looking awesome, man.

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 10:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

OB, the thing I like about your build is you can tell you workout your whole body and aren't just a beach muscle lifter like 80% of gym rats. In fact your least developed group is your chest, where most people are very chest heavy.

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 10:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

If I could suggest anything for you it would be more incline bench work to get the upper chest and shoulder area to fill in a little more. Traps and arms look great.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 11:42 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

just bench man... i used to have a bird chest until i finally decided to barbell bench with proper form... it's not even about lifting gobs of weight, cause i could never bench over 250 for reps... hell 225x5 was a lot for me...

i'm glad i finally got off my ass and got back into the gym...


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 01:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well I'm having some weight loss success so I figure I better join this thread. I got down to 220lbs today and my goal is 200. I'm doing very low carb and about 1600 calories. Diet consists mostly of whole eggs, chicken, random meats, protein shakes, creatine, and tons of water for the LAWLZ. Here's a pic from today after weigh in.

I'm lifting 4-5 times per week and not doing any cardio because I'd rather kill myself. Goal is to get to 200lb and not lose any muscle.



137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 01:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I wish I looked like that at 220 you cocksucker!!!

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 03:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Decline > Incline for chest stimulation. Decline actually works your upper chest more than incline, which I always thought was weird.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 09:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

still got some poundage to lose, but wanted to get you guys a shot of my quads as well.



DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 10:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

killing it bro... you can see the separation at your shoulder bicep there now too...

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/24/12 10:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Awesome job Wayne!

2000SiRacer
(Post Master Supreme)
02/25/12 08:04 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice job Wayne! What's the timeframe for this series?

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/25/12 11:36 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

hit 220 this morning... handheld bodyfat reader had me at 18% at the gym this morning... (not sure how accurate that thing is, cause last week it had me at 21%... but i'll hit it up again next Saturday morning as well...

coming along nicely... now to get through this weekend with no snags, and i'll be good to go for 216-217 by the end of next week...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/25/12 12:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Tough weekend for me...celebrating my birthday tonight with friends and tomorrow with family. Tonight I plan on getting shitty...haven't drank since New Years.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/25/12 01:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well maybe you'll get some "beer muscles"... ;\)

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/25/12 02:15 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Haha no beer...trying to see what alcohol has the most bang for the calorie. ;\) I'm thinking vodka and diet something?

Edit: From my quick research, looks like all 80 proof distilled alcohols are 65 calories per oz (rum, vodka, whiskey, cognac, tequila). Spiced rum (Capt. Morgan) is 70 proof and 60 calories per oz.

It's pretty bad but not the end of the world I guess...if I do a couple vodka and diet Sprite drinks (4oz of vodka per drink) that's 520 calories.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
02/25/12 03:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

If you love vodka like I do, try Spyke Platinum Sugar Free Vodka.

I do my best to avoid unnecessary sugar.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
02/26/12 01:10 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

194.5, down 1.5 from last week. Net loss of 10.5 overall. Slowly but surely...

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/26/12 01:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole
If I could suggest anything for you it would be more incline bench work to get the upper chest and shoulder area to fill in a little more. Traps and arms look great.
Thanks for the compliments. Been doing MP for some time now. I'll be working into a 531 in May and I'll be putting decline and incline in as accessories to it. I hate my small titties. \:\(

You're built like a tank BTW


Yeah man, get a good spotter and pound out some heavy low rep benching. I also find that cable crossovers have helped me quite a bit.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/26/12 04:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

186

wolfsburg2
(Post Master Supreme)
02/26/12 04:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

264, down 26lbs so far.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/27/12 06:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

161.8 today. Lowest point in quite awhile but I'm pretty sure I'm adding a little bit of muscle which is why I haven't dipped into the 150's yet. Everything is looking really good though. Just a bit over 4 weeks till hawaii....time to buckle down.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/27/12 07:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Everyone's doing good work up in this bitch...

I gained like 1.5 between Sunday morning and Monday morning which even though I had a cheat day I didn't go crazy, so was hoping to not gain...

Still had a net loss, down to 221.4, which was a 2lb drop from previous Monday...


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/27/12 10:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

218 today. BOOM. I'm pretty hungry right now though. LOL

I went to a party this weekend and almost raped a pizza. Luckily they had a veggie tray and a big bowl of almonds.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/28/12 10:49 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I hit the scale this morning, 219.8... i expected to drop some weight between Monday morning and this morning, due to the drop in carbs yesterday (after noon)...

So today is a no carb day, prolly drop another pound... most of it's water but definitely burning fat too... fasted last night from 8:30pm til 11am this morning... odd, cause i didn't wake up hungry, and wasn't starving after class...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/28/12 11:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i've been weighing myself before bed to see how my weight fluctuates overnight...

obviously you're heavier before you go to bed, but this morning i was 219.8, and i just weighed myself before bed 219.6... very odd, but by my typical fluctuation of 1.2-2 lbs from night to morning, i should be somewhere between 217.6 - 218.4...

hopefully my BF# will be down to 15-16% by Saturday...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 12:21 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Wow you fluctuate very little. I usually drop 3.5 - 4.0 lbs over night (7-8 hours of sleep).

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 08:13 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

218.0 this morning... ;\)

slackereg6
(Member)
02/29/12 05:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Start 162.0
week 2 163.6 up 1.6 total
week 4 162.4 up 0.4 total
week 5 161.6 down .4 total
week 6 160.2 down 1.8 total
week 8 158.8 down 3.2 total

Weighed myself over the weekend and still dropping slow and steady. I am starting to get into longer distances this week with 30 miles total and a long run of 15. Going to increase carbs/calories and see how it goes.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 05:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

185 dry before training
181 after training. Holy shit LOL totally exceeded my goal.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 06:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So, did you win?

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 06:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
So, did you win?


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
02/29/12 06:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
So, did you win?




FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 07:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

216.7 this morning. Took some leg pics a little bit ago. Thigh 29 inches and calves 18 inches. Sorry for the near ballz shot.





137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 08:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I want that in my mouth.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 08:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
So, did you win?




I wont know until saturday guys.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
02/29/12 08:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
I want that in my mouth.


Heyooooooo! LAWLZ


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 12:06 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I got weighed in at the end of the day, I did not win overall or come in the top 3. Interested in hearing who did, apparently not a huge change in my bodyfat composition but I did pack on lean mass while losing 30lbs.

I don't understand the math or how this was calculated at all, it's a caliper skinfold test and to be honest my skin is loose as fuck after dropping the weight. I seriously doubt it's accurate at all but the biggest changes were one the guys who were already skinny.



FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 12:20 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah, those caliper tests are absolute bullshit, especially for people with looser skin.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 08:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I may have AIDS, cause I dropped to 216.8 this morning... Wasn't expecting that drop yesterday... More water I suppose and after my re carb Saturday probably level out to 218 Monday morning which is fine...

I've been a consistent 1200-1300 cals per day...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/01/12 09:17 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
I got weighed in at the end of the day, I did not win overall or come in the top 3. Interested in hearing who did, apparently not a huge change in my bodyfat composition but I did pack on lean mass while losing 30lbs.

I don't understand the math or how this was calculated at all, it's a caliper skinfold test and to be honest my skin is loose as fuck after dropping the weight. I seriously doubt it's accurate at all but the biggest changes were one the guys who were already skinny.



Well I'm sorry to hear that Wayne. You put in a lot of hard work and effort into this competition. Your results have been astounding. Now...go eat a cheeseburger!

Then come back tomorrow and do some bench presses. \:\)


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 10:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

New low today...169.5 lbs. Looks like I'm dropping 0.6lbs per week now.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 10:25 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I fluctuate +/- 5 pounds during the week at times. Especially when I miss a work out. \:\(

Allergies beat me down all day yesterday with no energy for even cardio.

My next goal is 190 by April 1st.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 01:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So I realized this morning, that even if I try to stick my gut out....there is nothing to stick out.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 01:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
So I realized this morning, that even if I try to stick my gut out....there is nothing to stick out.


Same goes for trying to suck it in =(


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 01:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

lol, true. It's more just a tightening of things now. \:D

I've decided I want a beard and hair just like the guy on the right.



gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 01:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

The hair might be an issue...

BTW--I still have no problem sticking my gut out. \:\(


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 01:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

and you'll need close to a 300lb bench press for a chest like that =(

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 04:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i don't agree with that Wayne...

137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 04:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i don't agree with that Wayne...


I dunno man, I've given up benching I can hit 220 and have deflated chesticles so I'm doing something wrong.


**DONOTDELETE**
()
03/01/12 04:51 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I agree, I've seen guys with better chests than me who bench less....and worse chests that bench a little more...and I have a stout bench for my size and a pathetic show for pecs, IMO.

Yeah, I'm wondering how you're that small and pressing that much. I mean you're chest is what? 36"
I haven't been measured in a while, but I'm guessing I'm 40-42 and I'm struggling at 176. Fucking A.

In general all your numbers are huge for your size. I mean you're about the size of silock and he's like ripped like no other and you manage to put up numbers that huge.


**DONOTDELETE**
()
03/01/12 05:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Quick measurement under the armpits has it at 40ish in the rested position. Quick flex with arms down put it just over 41.

It's not all pecs though. Got shoulder, bi's, even tri's and back. Those others are decent for me, IMO. Like I said in another post...I'm very maxed out and struggling, which makes this current cut really hard for me, in terms of growth.


Admittedly I haven't seen pictures in a while.
It's not like my pecs aren't huge, but I'm sort of barrel torsoed for not being a big dude. Like spindly arms, medium legs, but big torso. A lot of it is probably is probably still having decent BF lurking around my midesection.

still frustating that I finally hit 176 at christmas and now I'm up 5lbs to weighing that much and I had a failure at 170.5. I should be able to do my damn bw.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 05:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i don't agree with that Wayne...


I dunno man, I've given up benching I can hit 220 and have deflated chesticles so I'm doing something wrong.



try going with dumbbells... try rep range training...

dude, i can't bench for shit, and still have decent chesticles... i can press a good amount with DB's though...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 05:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

bench press strength has a lot of factors... could be a limitation in your triceps, shoulders, bad form, or you just plain suck...

i chalk mine ineptitude up to jst plain sucking... or a go with the whole i got long arms thing... i mean i go to my chest and my fucking elbows are way under the bench... guys with shorter arms are going to press more on average...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 05:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Im wondering if being bigger before getting fit has anything to do with it. OB1 and I were about the same stats at our heaviest. I never lifted weights but I was always stronger than other guys my age and fitter.. Just random shit like moving couches pianos, etc...I had no problem while the other guys were struggling. Maybe it was a side effect of carrying all that weight around?

I still have no idea how much I can lift now, but I still feel plenty strong despite being almost 50 pounds lighter.



DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 06:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i'm not sure that has a large effect on it, maybe a bit... some people are genetically predisposed to lift heavier weights... more fast twitch muscle than others...

it's not fair, but thems the breaks...


**DONOTDELETE**
()
03/01/12 07:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah, I've never been "strong" or big. Shit I've only weighed over 175lbs 3x in my life(now being one).

And my genetics lean towards a big torso, and slimmish arms(even my 250lbs construction working dad) add in longish arms(longer that OB1) and I've got a pile of excuses!

Still wish I could lift more.


**DONOTDELETE**
()
03/01/12 07:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: dirtyS13drifta
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Quick measurement under the armpits has it at 40ish in the rested position. Quick flex with arms down put it just over 41.

It's not all pecs though. Got shoulder, bi's, even tri's and back. Those others are decent for me, IMO. Like I said in another post...I'm very maxed out and struggling, which makes this current cut really hard for me, in terms of growth.


Admittedly I haven't seen pictures in a while.
It's not like my pecs aren't huge, but I'm sort of barrel torsoed for not being a big dude. Like spindly arms, medium legs, but big torso. A lot of it is probably is probably still having decent BF lurking around my midesection.

still frustating that I finally hit 176 at christmas and now I'm up 5lbs to weighing that much and I had a failure at 170.5. I should be able to do my damn bw.
Do you have a spotter? Helps be a bunch with growth. It's my wife actually. Kind of scary but she can put up 145 so she can help JUST enough when I fail harder than usual.

Posted pics a short while back.. lost 9lbs since cutting. I think this was only like 2lbs in though. http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/6154339/#Post6154339

No, but I've called some random guy over for a spot when I'm near maximum.
I know once I get back to the states I'll find a consistent partner to spot(or make the wife do it). My life is too much in flux for now.


I'd say any attentive spot helps. It's not like they need to lift more than half the weight anyhow. I've never had more than a light spot though.


Based on those pics, your chest is actually bigger than I thought. It's just not in "peaked" pecs. Gotta work on yo peaks man! (j/k)


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 07:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'm not sure that has a large effect on it, maybe a bit... some people are genetically predisposed to lift heavier weights... more fast twitch muscle than others...

it's not fair, but thems the breaks...


Is there a test for that?

I am thinking that's me


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 07:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

This is the last picture I'm posting until I'm leaner or something I don't see how I'm getting under 182 anytime soon.



This is my pre and post contest picture. On the right I still have in me 7 pieces of great white pizza from bj's brewery, 3 mini pazookies (ice cream as well) a snake bite, a sweet potato with brown sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg, 2 20oz glasses of tangerine juice, and 2 cans of c20 coconut water. I guess I went a little hard on rehydration and eating lol.

Waist was about 38-39 inches on the left measured at my belly button and is 34in on the right.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 07:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice job Wayne....major improvement. I see no reason for you to stop now though....

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 07:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Oh, and I want to know where the OP, BigTasty is.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 07:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

wayne, what was your BF calculation pre contest...?

maybe there was an error in that recording...?

cause you've made a dramatic improvement, but are still carrying a very good amount of BF... prolly in the low 20% range...? just guessing from the pics...


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 07:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
Oh, and I want to know where the OP, BigTasty is.


That made me go back to page 1.

Looks like a lot of people have dropped out a la New Year's resolution.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 08:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

it's always like that man... only the strong survive... ;\)

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 10:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My attitude was that I'd be too much of a toolbag if I made my intentions public here and then backed out.

It worked. \:\)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 11:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm just competitive... lol

137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/01/12 11:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
wayne, what was your BF calculation pre contest...?

maybe there was an error in that recording...?

cause you've made a dramatic improvement, but are still carrying a very good amount of BF... prolly in the low 20% range...? just guessing from the pics...


on the left 29 percent body fat, on the right 27 percent bodyfat. PER THE CALIPER (notice I have ZERO) stretchmarks, I was a fat kid, got skinny, got fat my skin has always been fairly loose. So I'd have to tank dive to get an accurate number.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
03/02/12 01:49 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Inspiration:

http://youtu.be/qX3kcKHHElI


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/02/12 01:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
wayne, what was your BF calculation pre contest...?

maybe there was an error in that recording...?

cause you've made a dramatic improvement, but are still carrying a very good amount of BF... prolly in the low 20% range...? just guessing from the pics...


on the left 29 percent body fat, on the right 27 percent bodyfat. PER THE CALIPER (notice I have ZERO) stretchmarks, I was a fat kid, got skinny, got fat my skin has always been fairly loose. So I'd have to tank dive to get an accurate number.


i really think the number on the right pic is quite a bit higher than the left... prolly part of the reason you got kinda hosed in the contest...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/02/12 05:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I used an online calculator that uses neck and abdomen measurements and it says I'm around 19.6 percent

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/02/12 07:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Diet is ruined this weekend. Damn birthday. Fuck it. Back to the gym on Monday.

65_289
(Post Master Sr)
03/02/12 07:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Yeah, I'll focus more on my chest when I switch to the 531 this summer. Having a spotter helped me a lot, in two ways. Allows me to push out 2-3 more with insurance, but when I am at 225-230 I'm also scared because too much failure and the wife won't be able to assist me, lol scared push!


You bench 235 for reps at 155lb bodyweight and want to focus more on chest? Damn, what do you squat?


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/02/12 11:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Finally back on track after vacation. Did 60 min cardio on the bike and stationary row machine . Tomorrow is workout B.

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03/03/12 02:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
and you'll need close to a 300lb bench press for a chest like that =(
Totally disagree. The posted chests aren't anything special.


Now, if you want a chest like mine...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/03/12 09:03 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So a little story about my 17 year old niece...she is 5'2" and weighed 160.8 lbs on Jan 11th when she moved in with us to try and lose the weight. She did great for the couple weeks she was here, until her dad got all butthurt that she moved out of his house and made her move back home, where she sort of plateaued for a bit but then got her butt back into gear and as of this morning she is down 16.6 lbs! She's super motived now, the more she loses the more she wants it. Very proud of her. \:\)

Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/03/12 12:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Good for her. I'm sure she benefits from your encouragement.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/03/12 08:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Texas Roadhouse just blew up my diet... Lol... Figure no big deal as I've been busying my hump for the last couple months... Back to it tomorrow though to make up for the last 2 days...

That cinnamon butter is the devil, put some on my baked potato... HOT DAMN, that shit was GOOD...!


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/03/12 11:25 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dude if anyone deserves a cheat night it's you.

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
03/03/12 11:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Texas Roadhouse just blew up my diet... Lol... Figure no big deal as I've been busying my hump for the last couple months... Back to it tomorrow though to make up for the last 2 days...

That cinnamon butter is the devil, put some on my baked potato... HOT DAMN, that shit was GOOD...!



Oh goddammit that shit is so good. Thanks for reminding me about what I am missing. GAH!


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/04/12 10:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hello 168s! 168.9 lbs this morning. \:\)

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03/04/12 03:38 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong

Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2
Week 4 (1/30): -8.8
Week 5 (2/05): +2.8
Week 9 (3/04): -29


Might that I ease off the weekly weigh ins. That number today turned fire in to a volcano.


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
03/04/12 03:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: Philabong

Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2
Week 4 (1/30): -8.8
Week 5 (2/05): +2.8
Week 9 (3/04): -29


Might that I ease off the weekly weigh ins. That number today turned fire in to a volcano.

Wait..you lost 29 pounds this week? #proud


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03/04/12 04:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

lol. that'd be nice.

29lbs between 2-5 and 3-4


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/04/12 04:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

29 lbs lost

Nice work broshine.


Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
03/04/12 07:51 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
lol. that'd be nice.

29lbs between 2-5 and 3-4

Okay, I was a little worried at that for a week lol.

#stillproud


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/04/12 07:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

dropping big pounds...

that's over 60 so far...?

keep it up...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/04/12 08:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Way to go Phil...I was starting to worry about you.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/04/12 08:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

193.5--down just one pound from last week. \:\(

Didn't gain, though. I'll still take it. Total loss of 11.5--total goal is 20.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/04/12 10:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

down is good, even if it's only 1, AND it's bodyfat lost...

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
03/05/12 08:18 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well, my weight has remained the same for a solid 3 weeks - lifting is increasing and my measurements are going down. I suppose I should be okay with that, but I'm not.
I know that this is going to take a while, but by the end of last week and today I have been completely dogging it in every way possible. I might have to take a few days break soon (longer than just the weekend I usually take)

It very well could be stress related. I am so deep into essays and exams my brain is a complete cluster fuck.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/05/12 09:28 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Dahlia
Well, my weight has remained the same for a solid 3 weeks - lifting is increasing and my measurements are going down.


...thus why you should worry about nothing. I don't know/care what you weigh, but your body is probably busy burning fat and building muscle. If you look great, then the weight is just a number. A fit woman is going to weigh a lot more than a model with the muscle tone of veal.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/05/12 10:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I understand where Dahlia is coming from as someone who was overweight myself, that stupid "number" is always a concern. I'm down to 168.1 lbs this morning, my lowest ever, and at a point where I am ready to stop losing actual pounds and either maintain the weight while putting on muscle/losing body fat or increasing the number by putting on muscle/not gaining fat...but it will take some adjustment to not see that number dropping since that has always been the goal before.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/05/12 11:17 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

At some point you gotta start to maintain... To keep dropping and dropping can turn into an addiction...

Everyone is kicking ass so keep it up...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/08/12 09:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Whoa...166.9 lbs this morning, was totally not expecting that. That's down 2.6 lbs since Thursday last week and I've been eating my normal diet stuff and drinking water like normal, so it's not that I'm dehydrated or something. Weird.

I'm looking forward to next week when I will up my calories...don't want to lose anymore weight on the scale. (Why don't I start today? Because I'm weird like that, has to be structured, not just a random day. )


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/08/12 01:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i hear ya man... hard for me to switch up mid week too...

I was down to 213.6 this morning... probably be under 213 by tomorrow... i typically maintain or gain 1-2 over a weekend as my carbs go up, but should be in that 210 area by mid to late next week...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/08/12 03:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dipped into the 150's for the first time.....ever. 159.8

Muscles keep getting more defined as well.



HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/08/12 03:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
Dipped into the 150's for the first time.....ever. 159.8

Muscles keep getting more defined as well.



Awesome job man!


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/09/12 09:22 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Looks like yesterday was no fluke...I'm down to 166.7 lbs this morning and again 2.6 lbs since last Friday (same as yesterday vs previous Thursday). Pretty nuts. I have been pooping like crazy though...lots of Kiwis in my diet.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/09/12 11:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

159.0 today.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 12:38 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

not stepping on the scale again going to keep looking awesome, keep eating good and keep my measuring tape handy to see how big or small my waistline seems and eat based off of that.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 09:49 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

209 Monday after my birthday weekend. 201 this morning.

Hopefully, today's and tomorrow's workout will put me below 200 for the first time in over 10 years.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 02:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

214 this morning! 14 to go and then reassessment.

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 02:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
209 Monday after my birthday weekend. 201 this morning.

Hopefully, today's and tomorrow's workout will put me below 200 for the first time in over 10 years.


Awesome! Congrats.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 07:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I hit 212.6 friday morning, but definitely will have put on 2-4 since then... carbs certainly make me hold alot more water...

definitely be down to 210 before end of next week though which would put me several weeks ahead of my goal i posted here in January...


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 08:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole
 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
209 Monday after my birthday weekend. 201 this morning.

Hopefully, today's and tomorrow's workout will put me below 200 for the first time in over 10 years.


Awesome! Congrats.


I'll make sure to weight in post poop and pre steak and egg breakfast. \:D


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 10:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So I got tank dunked today. Here are my results, had the flu all week and overcame it.

Body fat percentage : 20.4%
-Weight 183
-Weight of body fat: 37.25
-Lean Lbs: 145.75

For my age range of 30-39 18.2% would be a good strong functional percentage for me. She also advised I was eating too little at 1500cals a day and need to up it . My resting metabolic rate is 1932 cals a day. So that's a rest day of calories and on lifting days to eat a little more. Basicaly now gotta tune the diet to something reasonable to where my loss is only a pound a week if I still want to lose any weight.

I was extremely happy with that.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/10/12 11:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That's pretty cool...where did you go to have the test done? I'd be interested in having one done too.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/11/12 12:35 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

it was a mobile body fat test center on wheels.

http://bodyfattest.com/


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/11/12 07:32 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

FUCK YOU SCALE!

I stepped on the scale this morning, after my normal constitutional, and it read...

199.8

...but then the digital readout blinked and read...

200.8.



I swear I saw a troll face on the readout...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/11/12 10:17 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



Don't you hate that?


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/11/12 12:38 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm not weighing in til tomorrow. I'm pretty sure last week was a bad week for weight loss and yet I was VERY well-behaved in terms of portion control and nutrition in general.

This week is going to be warm, so I plan on burning some serious calories on the bike.


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/11/12 02:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've given up on MFP for daily tracking of food and exercise. I just felt like I was getting hyper focused on every little thing I ate and trying to decide if I should lift (no calorie credit) or do cardio. It all got to be a bit too much. I am a busy person and I can't spend all that time.

The good thing though, is that I learned what certain foods calorie count is and how much I should be eating. I've only 'over eaten' once since I stopped and it was a date night with the wife. Famous Dave's BBQ joint.

I'm still lifting and doing cardio and am hopeful to catch a new yoga class at the gym here and there. I'm going to go with this unless I see a dramatic weight gain.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/11/12 03:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
hopeful to catch a new yoga class at the gym here and there.


Nice!!! Good to hear it.

Oneof my cousins goes to a class nearby and she invited me to try it. I might take her up on it. 90 minutes in a 90 degree room--eesh...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/11/12 04:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've done hot yoga before. You leave feeling tired but refreshed all at the same time.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/11/12 10:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

mfp, was a bit easier for me to be on when I knew all of the ingredients in my girlfriends cooking, I would just enter in my own meals and then in the future I could just add a portion of one of those meals. Or the recipe's to her food. She got lazy and left me hanging so I don't know what I'm eating most the time, it's a calculated guess unless I know I'm eating bullshit like those lemon-ricotta pancakes from cheesecake factory this morning. AAAAAAAAAAAAMAZING!!!!

sipping on some iced tea with lemonade right now, gotta log that lol.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/11/12 10:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

it's easy as fuck for me during the week, cause my foods are the same on a pattern... when the weekend comes i get all jacked up, ESPECIALLY on the weekends that my boys are with me...

blew shit up this weekend... i'll likely be around 215 by tomorrow morning, but drop that water i'm holding by Tuesday...

tearing it up in the gym tomorrow... ;\)


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/11/12 11:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
it's easy as fuck for me during the week, cause my foods are the same on a pattern... when the weekend comes i get all jacked up, ESPECIALLY on the weekends that my boys are with me...



Ditto. It's tough being a foodie and trying to lose weight. Fucking murder, actually. I am a great cook and I know a lot about food--thus I can say that when people say "eating healthy can taste great" is bullshit. It can taste decent, but the truly good stuff is full of fat and salt and tastes better.

No problem to eat healthy, responsible stuff during the week. Hell, I can even make it pretty flavorful. However, I LOVE going out to dinner. That said, I've been making way more sensible choices out. I don't think I've had red meat in over 2 weeks. \:\(


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/12/12 05:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



slackereg6
(Member)
03/12/12 10:19 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

week 10 158.4 down .4 from two weeks ago and 3.6 total

Not great but as long as the weight keeps going down I am happy. I am going to try to cut a few extra calories this week to try and speed up the weight loss.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/12/12 10:23 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Had a pretty bad food weekend...went out Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday during the day and ate something "bad" each time. Am still 0.2 lbs lighter than last Monday (167.9 vs 168.1) and it says my body fat is down to 14.8% but can't really be doing that. One bad food day I'm ok with, but not three.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/12/12 10:36 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

193.0 down .5 from last week. I was expecting a gain, so I guess that's good.

Getting out on the bike today--supposed to be record high of 70.

Doing my usual 18.5 mile loop. I don't think it's windy out, so hopefully I can do it quickly.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/15/12 01:27 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i hit 211.4 this morning... looks like i'll hit my goal of 210 by weeks end, and be under that 18% BF i was shooting for...

i'll post a pic sometime this weekend...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/16/12 09:55 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm assuming this has something to do weight training late last night but I woke up this morning at 209 on the nose...

I typically train in the am in a fasted state but wanted to play golf today so I hit the gym late last night after work and banged out a shoulder / tricep workout... Had 165g of pineapple and a protien shake after and hit the bed about an hour afterwards...


Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
03/19/12 01:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
Oh, and I want to know where the OP, BigTasty is.


Ha still here, been up and down on my progress. Knees are killing me for some reason, must be the townhouse or old age. I haven't been running much but will wake up hurting almost every day regardless if I do anything strenuous or not. Weather is nice now so I will be pulling out the bike and hitting the trails.

Wife booked tickets to go to Trinidad end of May so I will be going full force to not embarrass myself at the beach.



137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/19/12 09:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I havent been doing a lot of training but I'm happy to say the fat is still trimming itself where I want it to trim, my skin is hella loose by my stomach, hopefully it heals and gets a bit tighter. I don't want runny egg skin by the bottom of my abdomen =(

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/20/12 12:24 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I gained .5lbs last week. March has been completely flat in terms of weight loss for me. I'm actually kind of disgusted about that, since I've stayed the same weight before while doing FAR less exercise than I'm doing now.

That said, since it suddenly became short sleeve weather, I've gotten a ton of compliments on my new build--ranging from a female student to my college friends. I should probably ignore the number more.

That said, I'm going to tighten the diet even more this week, while I'm out on my bike a bunch.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/22/12 06:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What this challenge has taught me, (always learning), is that it will take at least 4 to 5 days of exercise per week to meet my next goal. 3 days is only maintaining my current weight.

I took a week off to deal with neck pain and allergies. \:\(


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/22/12 06:51 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It's always going to come down to diet buddy. I took two weeks off and am still hovering at 180-183 been eating a little shittier but nothing world ending. maybe yesterday 7000+ calorie day =( Totally did not do the work to deserve that type of eating.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
03/22/12 08:12 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well, the thing is I've been maintaining a steady 1200 +/- (which I've been monitoring very close and have not deviated from) calorie diet since I started. I fluctuate +/- 3 to 5 pounds during the week. I can't really eat less although I do also have a fasting day during the week.

Even on my 'cheat' days, I still do not go over 1200 cal. for the whole day.

For the past 2 weeks, I've been between 201 and 205. One week I worked out 3 days, last week no days due to allergy issues.

I'm still trying to break the >200 mark and it just seems I've hit a wall. Then again, I am also weight training.

*emo*


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
03/22/12 12:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Sorry everyone for not keeping up. I haven't been exactly motivated to work out lately. I started P90X again, but I'm modifying the workout schedule. I have the Inanity workouts as well to increase my cardio workouts. The rest week during week 4 will be substituted with mostly cardio. Then back to the mix of weight training and cardio on the P90X schedule.

So far, I'm still at 191 lbs. I can see my upper abs a bit more due to the Ab Ripper X stuff...which I love!

I will post an updated photo in a couple of months.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/22/12 11:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Got my Withings scale today... took my first weigh in tonight 209.6 @ 19.9% which i'll remeasure in the AM about 30 minutes after i get up... I had just completed a 285 calorie burn on the treadmill for 30 minutes, so i'm sure that's throwing those numbers off a bit...

208 in the AM would be good shit, but i thought I was less than 20%... UGH... we'll see where i am in AM, and go from there... making solid progress though, and still losing... upped my calories a few hundred a day, and will likely make a small increase each week over the next 4 until i'm close to a maintainence level for the week...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/22/12 11:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Love the Withings scale, I've had mine for a little over 2 years.

What "Version" did you set it to? I know there is one for "athlete" and one for "normal" and those affect what it shows for yor body fat quite a bit I believe. I have mine set to normal and it shows ~14.5%.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 01:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

had a pretty shitty 2 days worth of eating, weight is still around 181-184 which is the threshold I've given myself to "partay" I'm going to be good tomorrow and not leave the house lol.

Buddy took me to korean bbq and treated.

This automatically lead to beers, you can't drink water with this shit.

Roughly 6000 calories later, and who the fuck ordered the calimari, shit looks like foreskin.

Dinner consisted of flank steak wraps with mango salsa, I skipped the lettuce and just ate the 8oz of meat, whats more protein right?

Today I had a light breakfast 2 eggs, sausage, and 2 pancakes (butter no syrup) was craving cupcakes like super crazy (we went to a cupcake bakery after the kbbq but I declined, I wanted to die lol) So I killed the bread craving with that, then spent all day shopping after working out. I can wear size 32 jeans now (well not if I don't want my cock to feel like it's in a ziploc bag)

Had a cinnabon and small milk, came home passed out hoping to wake up to paleo goodness, girlfriend doesn't cook and wants to rage lol gets bacon cheeseburger and chili cheese fries. *LAUGH UNCONTROLLABLY* you guys have no idea how much of a fucking food nazi she has become after I lost all of the weight.

So yeah finishing off the night with the other half of her fries, my own burger and a small orange bang. Back on my shit now as I'm sure I've met my 5lb quota lol.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 01:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

let me know if those photos are super huge and I'll resize.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 09:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Love the Withings scale, I've had mine for a little over 2 years.

What "Version" did you set it to? I know there is one for "athlete" and one for "normal" and those affect what it shows for yor body fat quite a bit I believe. I have mine set to normal and it shows ~14.5%.


I have it set to normal, but i'm still not feeling this things readings... i woke up this morning, waited at least 30 minutes, had 12oz of water over that 30 minutes and weighed in... said i was 208.2 but 22%... no way in hell do i believe that number... i'm starting to be able to see some abs, and that's not going to happen at 22%... ugh...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 09:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

The 2011 athlete version shows me at 14.1%... that seems a little low, but definitely closer to what i really might be... maybe i'll just use that setting... either way i'm interested in tracking change vs getting a concrete number...

and Wayne yeah those pics are mad large son...


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 10:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
let me know if those photos are super huge and I'll resize.


Probably should resize


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 11:19 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Love the Withings scale, I've had mine for a little over 2 years.

What "Version" did you set it to? I know there is one for "athlete" and one for "normal" and those affect what it shows for yor body fat quite a bit I believe. I have mine set to normal and it shows ~14.5%.


I have it set to normal, but i'm still not feeling this things readings... i woke up this morning, waited at least 30 minutes, had 12oz of water over that 30 minutes and weighed in... said i was 208.2 but 22%... no way in hell do i believe that number... i'm starting to be able to see some abs, and that's not going to happen at 22%... ugh...


I'm a little confused on why you had 12oz of water and then weighed yourself. That obviously adds weight to the scale...why not do it first thing in the morning before eating/drinking anything?


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 12:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Watch out Wayne....I've found that the binges or lapses in judgement usually don't fully manifest themselves on the scale till like 2 weeks later.

But yeah...that's a whole lotta food!


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 01:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i
 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy

I'm a little confused on why you had 12oz of water and then weighed yourself. That obviously adds weight to the scale...why not do it first thing in the morning before eating/drinking anything?


i had 12 oz of water over the 30 mintues before i stepped on the scale... you become slightly dehydrated overnight, which will give a less accurate reading than if you drink something, and weight yourself about 30 mintues upon waking...

the 12 oz of liquid is negligent in the bodyweight it adds, and you'll likely piss within that 30 minutes of waking anyhow...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/23/12 08:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
 Originally Posted By: 137
Today I had a light breakfast 2 eggs, sausage, and 2 pancakes (butter no syrup) was craving cupcakes like super crazy (we went to a cupcake bakery after the kbbq but I declined, I wanted to die lol) So I killed the bread craving with that, then spent all day shopping after working out. I can wear size 32 jeans now (well not if I don't want my cock to feel like it's in a ziploc bag)

Had a cinnabon and small milk, came home passed out hoping to wake up to paleo goodness, girlfriend doesn't cook and wants to rage lol gets bacon cheeseburger and chili cheese fries. *LAUGH UNCONTROLLABLY* you guys have no idea how much of a fucking food nazi she has become after I lost all of the weight.

So yeah finishing off the night with the other half of her fries, my own burger and a small orange bang. Back on my shit now as I'm sure I've met my 5lb quota lol.
\:o

Time to puff back up?
a crazy day or 3 a month won't kill you but it will definitely hamper further loss. funny thing is someone came up to me the other day and asked if I was still cutting because I am starting to get more defined. I just said the skin is healing but i'm definitely carbing up a bit more arms are starting to look ripped and the vascularity train is finally traveling from shoulder to wrist permanently.

I try to keep my weight gain within a 5lb window so if I break 185 I'm super strict or limit the portions but if I drop to 180 I try to eat a bit more than usual. I don't have much of an appetite being smaller now =(


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/24/12 01:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Had a good week this week...weight has stayed even at around 167lbs...had 1750 calories Mon - Thurs though last weekend (Friday/Sat/Sunday) was a pretty bad weekend food wise and last night (Friday) I had 2000.

New PRs across the board...200lb squat, 105lb press, 152.5lb chest, 102.5lb clean and 225lb deadlift. Starting to get some nice noticeable separation in my pecs too.



137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/24/12 05:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

eat something please.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
03/24/12 06:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hit 158.0 today. :fuckyeah:

Upper body is looking fucking awesome too...muscles bulging all over the place.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/24/12 06:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)


Upper body is looking fucking awesome too...muscles bulging all over the place.




DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/24/12 07:38 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Making progress Val, keep adding small calorie increments and you'll be building muscle in no time...

137
(Post Master Supreme)
03/25/12 01:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



carbs!!!


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03/25/12 06:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm going to buy you some red and yellow ribbon to tie off on either side of your biceps like the Ultimate Warrior did.


Then,


Ares
(Post Master Supreme)
03/25/12 07:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
eat something please.


why?

dudes lacking muscle... has kind of a funky look going on... but if the solution is to just fill out with fat again, I dont see the logic in that.

He's gaining strength, so whats he need to eat more for? as if eating more will all become pure arnohld muscle?

not everyone gets super awesome joeyball pecs \:\( those that do have some rather annoying presumption that those that dont, just arent doing it right. Maybe they just havent been doing it long enough... but even that, Im not so sure.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/25/12 08:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

He's making that statement cause he can't grow muscle on a caloric deficient... Gotta have a surplus for the body to build muscle...

Once youve been hypo caloric so long it takes effort to get to a surplus consistently...


Jrobski
(Post Master Sr)
03/25/12 10:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Val is eating all the right stuff. He just needs to eat more of it now. All that food will turn into muscle as long as he keeps training. He was the one dead set on calorie cutting and losing weight before building muscle. So now that he needs to build, he needs to eat.

Eat Val, eat!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/25/12 11:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
He's making that statement cause he can't grow muscle on a caloric deficient... Gotta have a surplus for the body to build muscle...

Once youve been hypo caloric so long it takes effort to get to a surplus consistently...


this

 Originally Posted By: truckman_16
Val is eating all the right stuff. He just needs to eat more of it now. All that food will turn into muscle as long as he keeps training. He was the one dead set on calorie cutting and losing weight before building muscle. So now that he needs to build, he needs to eat.

Eat Val, eat!


...and this


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
03/26/12 10:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well, there was no lck of calories this weekend...sort of like last weekend. \:D

Now I didn't eat "bad" but I certainly had a surplus I would say. Friday I had 2000 calories which was fine..but then Saturday for dinner I had a grilled pork hop, potatoes, salad, bread, slick of cake and frozen yogurt. Yesterday for lunch had a chicken meatball soup, grilled shrimp and chicken, salad, brown rice then for dinner a sushi roll (which was surprisingly filling) and again some frozen yogurt. \:D


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/26/12 11:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Too much food and drink this weekend--I'll weigh in on Wednesday. \:\(

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/28/12 10:27 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

192. Down 1.5lbs from 3/19 weigh-in.

slackereg6
(Member)
03/28/12 04:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Was 156.0 on Sunday. Time to start eating more and get ready for a 20 mile run.

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
03/30/12 09:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Been stuck at 216 for like 3 weeks. Gah. I felt strong today on bench so I figured I'd max and I got 385! Highest I've been since like 2006.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
03/30/12 09:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

that's huge man... wow... i'm jealousy...

if you're stuck on 216, you're not trying bitch... ;\)


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
03/30/12 10:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah, that's a wacky bench for 216. Cripes.

The best I ever did was 265 when I was around 200lbs around 12 years ago. No clue what I could put up now.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
03/30/12 10:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My best bench to weight ratio was 395 at 197. I was a tap on the bar away from 405, but I don't count it because the guy tapped it. Argh.

Diezel, you're right, I have been slacking on diet the last couple weeks. I'm full steam again, so ELLBEEs should start dropping off again.


Impulsive
(Post Master Supreme)
03/31/12 12:36 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

How does one get to a near 400 lbs bench?

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03/31/12 12:51 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Do bench.

I can get 335 pounds. My gfs brother is like the same size as me, little taller, 19 years old and can rep 295 like 8 times. Thats a shit ton for somebody with such a ling range of motion. He keeps at it he will be beast mode.


Impulsive
(Post Master Supreme)
03/31/12 12:59 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'd been as high as 335 myself and likely about 310 now, but that is always where it stops.

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03/31/12 01:14 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I feel like I could get beyond it if I didn't work out alone. I thrive on competition. I mean, it has nothing to do with a spotter. I could put 450 pounds on the bar right now and fail and just simply tip it off me. But, if I had someone else stronger than me doing sets, I'd probably be able to squeeze out a few more pounds. I'm happy with my strength level right now tho, and I have a long rom. 400 pounds has always been a goal though lol

Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
03/31/12 11:03 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm up to 225x3-4 at 182 lbs and for as lanky and long as I am, it's not too bad.

ALSO since this is the biggest loser thread.....MY DUDE PHILABONG IS KILLING IT!!!!!!! KEEP AT IT!!!!!!!


Impulsive
(Post Master Supreme)
03/31/12 11:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've just been around this level for a long time and known a few guys who can't get past the 300 barrier. The only people I know who have really went well beyond are WSM looking bubba's or juicers.

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04/02/12 08:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong

Week 1 (1/09): -7
Week 2 (1/16): -12.8
Week 3 (1/23): -5.2
Week 4 (1/30): -8.8
Week 5 (2/05): +2.8
Week 9 (3/04): -29
Week13 (4/01): -12


Not as good as I was hoping for. I was shooting for 30 and feel like I should have got it. I've been pretty good on calories all month, but two weeks ago I had to start 10 days of antibiotics and a prednisone course. Prednisone messes with your water and blood sugar in a not insignificant way, so I'm sure that is part of the problem.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/02/12 10:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What weight did he start at...? I though someone saud he was 3 bills +...?

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/03/12 01:18 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong

Week 9 (3/04): -29





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04/03/12 08:24 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
What weight did he start at...? I though someone saud he was 3 bills +...?


That information wasn't posted. ;\)


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/03/12 09:47 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I busted my ass this last week before I am to go home to visit my parents.

200.1



Why can't I break through the threshold?

I'm not really complaining. I'm happy with my progress but I really want to lose 20 more pounds, (when I return from vacay).

I'm still at about 1200 cal a day. Low carbs, plenty of water and protein, leafy greens. Weight training and cardio 4-5 days a week. I do a carb bomb every 2 weeks.



Lewis
(Post Master Supreme)
04/03/12 12:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
What weight did he start at...? I though someone saud he was 3 bills +...?
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
Talk to us man! Obviously those number mean you're large. So what?

Gonna guess 400.

Doesn't matter.

All that matters is GO PHIL!!!!!! You're killing it and I know you can keep killing it.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/03/12 05:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Fuckin' a, dude. Fuckin' A!!!

There will be a point when that "before" number is a source of pride when compared to the accomplishment of the "after". \:\)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/03/12 06:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

frankly i don't see why the big secret... it's just a number, and part of the challenge was to give your before number... just sayin'...

**DONOTDELETE**
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04/03/12 10:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It's not a secret and I'm not being mysterious. It's a simple matter of information security. I stated my intentions at the beginning of the thread. I'll post my starting and ending weight when we're "done".

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/03/12 10:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Information security...? Wow...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/03/12 11:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
It's not a secret and I'm not being mysterious. It's a simple matter of information security. I stated my intentions at the beginning of the thread. I'll post my starting and ending weight when we're "done".




137
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 01:07 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Who gives a fuck let the man participate in the thread in his own way.

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
200.1
Why can't I break through the threshold?

I'm not really complaining. I'm happy with my progress but I really want to lose 20 more pounds.

I'm still at about 1200 cal a day. Low carbs, plenty of water and protein, leafy greens. Weight training and cardio 4-5 days a week. I do a carb bomb every 2 weeks.



I haven't followed your diary on MFP lately but I think it's more along the lines of whats going in your body in those 1200cals more or less than the 1200 cals themselves. The cals in in out thing is all fine and dandy but salt's going to make you retain water, don't matter how much you drink.

Just a lot of factors dude. Your acid reflux may also be coming into play, if I remember correctly you stated that you had it so prolonged digestion along with whatever you're eating could cause a backup.

Weight started to peel off of me, 2 gals of water a day and even now I'm eating semi healthy semi shitty to maintain my weight as stated and my body is finally catching up to the weight loss. love handles are going away little by little, arms are getting more and more vascular, skin's healing and getting tighter.

But if you want any tips or what not with your food and shit just hit me up on fb.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 05:03 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
Who gives a fuck let the man participate in the thread in his own way.

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
200.1
Why can't I break through the threshold?

I'm not really complaining. I'm happy with my progress but I really want to lose 20 more pounds.

I'm still at about 1200 cal a day. Low carbs, plenty of water and protein, leafy greens. Weight training and cardio 4-5 days a week. I do a carb bomb every 2 weeks.



I haven't followed your diary on MFP lately but I think it's more along the lines of whats going in your body in those 1200cals more or less than the 1200 cals themselves. The cals in in out thing is all fine and dandy but salt's going to make you retain water, don't matter how much you drink.

Just a lot of factors dude. Your acid reflux may also be coming into play, if I remember correctly you stated that you had it so prolonged digestion along with whatever you're eating could cause a backup.

Weight started to peel off of me, 2 gals of water a day and even now I'm eating semi healthy semi shitty to maintain my weight as stated and my body is finally catching up to the weight loss. love handles are going away little by little, arms are getting more and more vascular, skin's healing and getting tighter.

But if you want any tips or what not with your food and shit just hit me up on fb.


Salt has been a non-issue as of late as I don't cook with it and don't add more than what the food I am eating may already contain. I season meals with different spices. I'm still eating clean/whole foods and even make my own salad dressings to avoid added salt/sugars.

Acid reflux/GERD, I haven't had any issues since I started eating clean.

Since I am going home to visit my parents this weekend, I'll figure it out once I get back. Once I am back in the school/gym routine, I'll catch up with you on FB about some Chef MJ recipes. \:\)


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 10:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

191.0 down a pound from last week \:\)

I'm trying to be as pre-emptive as possible for Easter. We're hosting, there will be a TON of food (because Italian) and a lot of wine (some that will be very, VERY good )

It's going to be tricky to control the eating. Figuring on eating as minimally as possible during the day in preparation for some not-so-wise dinners. Also going to emphasize the cardio a bit more.

Picking up some swordfish for dinner tonight.


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04/04/12 12:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Information security...? Wow...



Did you have something to say or are you just going to keep being a fucking douche?


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 01:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Sharky, I told you. Fuck weight. Use a measuring tape.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 01:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Philabong
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Information security...? Wow...



Did you have something to say or are you just going to keep being a fucking douche?


i think i said what i had to say... you "fucking douche"...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 01:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Sharkey i haven't seen you on MFP on 3 weeks, so are you really tracking your cals...? how do you know what your intake is...?

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 02:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've been eating the same thing the past 3 weeks. True story. I just haven't been recording it.

In the past week, I've actually been eating less trying to finish up the school semester. So I skipped breakfast, protein shake for lunch and chicken/leafy greens for dinner.

Skipping breakfast probably stalled my weight loss.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 02:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack

Skipping breakfast probably stalled my weight loss.


I'm going to say that eating too much has stalled your weight loss. \:D

Remember, the less you weight, the less calories you can eat to keep losing. So at 220 lbs, 1200 calories (or whatever) may have been low enough to cause you to lose weight, but at 200, you will lose less. Now you should still be losing but I have a feeling that not recording your calories is the problem, you think you're eating the same things but not weighing the food and counting everything, you calories could probably range by a couple hundred per day.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 03:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

if he's only taking in 1200 calories he's still in a deficiet, A LARGE ONE at that...

he could lose weight on 1800 calories a day...

but yeah i'd agree that he may be underestimating his caloric intake, OR he could simply be holding water, and could drop 5 pounds out of nowhere here real soon if his caloric intake has been in a deficiet...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 03:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

If he's not eating enough as well his body will hold onto shit. Especially if he's not doing any kind of high intensity interval training to burn off dormant cals.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 04:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Could be my new allergy medication that's causing me to retain water. I'll shoot my internal medicine dr. an email to get her input.

I'm not overly concerned about it now that I'm heading home for 2 weeks.

The crazy thing is even when I don't eat, I don't get hungry like I used to before I started eating healthy. No growling stomach, no insane cravings, etc.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 05:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

your body is adjusting to the lower calorie diet... i know i was ALWAYS a breakfast guy... over the last 5 weeks that I have not been eating breakfast (intermittent fasting), i wake up NOT HUNGRY, go to school or go train, when i get home, some days i feel hungry, others I do not...

the body is pretty crazy how it adapts to what you put it through... i'm in the process of adding cals each week now, so I can really ramp up my traning intensity... which means I may have to add breakfast back in 3-4 days a week, so i can meet my new calorie requirements... should be interesting...


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 06:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I will have to readjust again when I get back. Perhaps it will again ramp up my initial weight loss and I can get back into the normal school/gym/bowling routine during my next semester.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/04/12 08:51 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

are you doing refeed / cheat meals...? helps reset yourself...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/05/12 05:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I do a cheat meal every 2 weeks but even with the cheat meal I rarely went over 1200 calories for the whole day.

Maybe I should do once a week?


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
04/05/12 07:25 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Started getting really strict on carbs again and weight is falling of again. 213lbs!

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/05/12 07:33 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Keep it up!!~!

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/05/12 08:07 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
I do a cheat meal every 2 weeks but even with the cheat meal I rarely went over 1200 calories for the whole day.

Maybe I should do once a week?


The purpose of a cheat day or meal isn't to still stay in your caloric goals... How long have you been doing this 1200 cal thing and are you weight training with it...?


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/05/12 05:57 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

The thing is I get full really quick even with my cheat meal. I can't even the whole thing.

I am doing Starting Strength but have been taking it easy with the amount of weight due to neck, back and shoulder issues.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/05/12 06:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well, i'm not really sure what the deal is there... if you are being true to 1200 cal intake, AND doing weight training you should be losing weight...

you could be losing fat, and just holding onto water... i'd ramp up the exercise for a week and see what that does for you...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
04/05/12 10:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

my shit eating has caught up to me and I am 185, sucks because I'm supposed to do kbbq tomorrow and then a farewell celebration on saturday. So I have to scale my bullshit back and stop bsing. I do love how much more energy it feels like I have, maybe it's mental or something. But I feel so much stronger and I can see the veins in my forearms now without working out or getting a pump running through my muscles. Now if we could just get the biceps to follow suit I'll be a happy camper.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/06/12 02:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
well, i'm not really sure what the deal is there... if you are being true to 1200 cal intake, AND doing weight training you should be losing weight...

you could be losing fat, and just holding onto water... i'd ramp up the exercise for a week and see what that does for you...


Thanks for the advice. I'm sure I have failed at some portion of my plan but I'm not too disappointed.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/06/12 12:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Hey you've made progress so far... it's not all bad... ;\)

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/06/12 03:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'd ramp up the exercise for a week and see what that does for you...


More cardio or weight training. My weight training takes about 30 minutes. I do cardio for about 45 minutes. 15 minute warm up -> weights -> 30 minutes cardio.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/06/12 03:53 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well cardio probably burns more calories, BUT i'd rather increase the weight training, as doing so will allow you to keep your lean mass while on a hypocaloric diet...

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
04/07/12 08:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

210lbs today!

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/07/12 09:58 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'd ramp up the exercise for a week and see what that does for you...


More cardio or weight training. My weight training takes about 30 minutes. I do cardio for about 45 minutes. 15 minute warm up -> weights -> 30 minutes cardio.


30 minutes for the weight training? Aren't you doing Starting Strength? How can you finish that fast?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/07/12 10:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole
210lbs today!


Good job man, way to rededicate...


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
04/08/12 12:23 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Thanks, holmes.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/08/12 07:07 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'd ramp up the exercise for a week and see what that does for you...


More cardio or weight training. My weight training takes about 30 minutes. I do cardio for about 45 minutes. 15 minute warm up -> weights -> 30 minutes cardio.


30 minutes for the weight training? Aren't you doing Starting Strength? How can you finish that fast?


3/5 sets, 5 reps each. I don't ramp up the weight each consecutive set.

Squats/Bench/Dead.

Plus I go to the gym at 1pm when it's practically empty and I'm out by 2:30 with 15 minutes in the steam room at the end of my workout.



slackereg6
(Member)
04/08/12 07:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

155.6

40 mile week done and time for the taper.


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
04/08/12 06:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

After a week at the Four Seasons in Hawaii eating whatever and whenever I wanted and more than a few adult beverages every day....I'm afraid to step on the scale.

I did run 3 times through the hot-ass lava fields, and paced my brother through the last 10 miles of a 50 mile Ultra race yesterday, so I don't feel two bad. Looking forward to getting back on the wagon and getting some more good training in. 10k podium attempt on the 21st.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/11/12 10:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

190.5 down .5 from last week.

I'll take it, considering Easter was a few days ago. I didn't binge that day, but I did do a decent amount of eating.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/11/12 11:59 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've been home for a week and only managed to gain 2 pounds. Currently at 205. Perhaps these couple of weeks at home will jump start my weight loss again once I get back to my normal routine.

FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
04/13/12 12:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Been busy this week and slacking on the gym, but diet has been on point. Gonna blast the gym with piss tonight. Boom.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/13/12 01:06 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i'm still on track... i was 204.4 this morning... slowly chipping away at this point...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/13/12 03:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'll be so glad to get back on a routine again. I love hanging out with my parents but it's not doing my weight loss any good. At least I'm not gaining. \:\)

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/13/12 07:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My fucking riding partner has been Mr. Social Butterfly lately, so he's bitching out on our Saturday rides. MS150 is in 2 months and he's ridden a total of 25 miles in 2012. He's a crossfitter, so there's a decent base of fitness, but he wasn't in cycling shape when we rode a few weeks ago. I will likely drop him a couple of legs into this year's 150, which sucks.

So it looks like I'll be doing a nice 35ish mile solo ride tomorrow.

Did 12.92 miles on the singlespeed this early evening. Beautiful little ride. \:\)


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
04/13/12 08:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Jesus, no gym again tonight. I've just been so fucking tired from work.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
04/14/12 12:15 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
i'm still on track... i was 204.4 this morning... slowly chipping away at this point...



Whats the overall goal for you again? You're pretty tall. I'm actually going strict next week again and going to try dropping down to 170 to see how my body feels at that weight.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/14/12 08:44 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I originally figured 200 pounds would be an ideal weight, but at this point i'm going to keep cutting until i hit 195, and see where i am at... if i can lose 9 more pounds of all fat, i think i'll look ok... then i'll move to a slow bulk and try and add more muscle and get back up to 200-205ish...

we'll see, that could change when i hit 195, and decide to go to 190... i am 6'2" so i'm thinking 195 should be a good number to shoot for... 195 @ 10-12% should be pretty solid, and then the real work starts... ;\)


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/14/12 10:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Ok so this is fucking weird...

I upped my calories to 1750 per day 5 weeks ago and my weight had been keeping pretty steady which I was fine with. Had the leg problems so I took a break from doing squats/cleans/deadlifts two weeks ago but replaced with other exercises (as I've gone over before).

This week, I actually started out pretty bad calorie wise...Monday I had about 2150, Tuesday I had 1975 and then Wed/Thurs/Fri I got back on track and stuck to 1750.

Well...what the hell is up with my scale?



166.1 this morning, which is tied for my lowest weight ever (when I was eating 1500 cal/day).

Could I really be losing fat...or could it be muscle since I'm not working out my legs/core as hard as I was a few weeks ago? Freaking weird.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/14/12 11:13 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

To add, my weights/reps have actually been really good at the gym over the last 1-2 weeks.
Did 157.5lbs (new PR) on chest press last night 5x3 and it was actually pretty "easy", no spotter needed...should be able to push up 160 next week no problem. Chin-ups are up to 11/9/7 and pull-ups 9/8/6.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/14/12 11:52 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Could be a water loss... Doubt it's a loss of muscle as you're still training and I ASSUME you're still getting adequate protein intake...

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/14/12 12:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yea, protein is at ~180g per day. Don't know what would cause the water loss, haven't changed what I eat or how much I drink.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/14/12 03:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Water is finicky... Takes time to figure out how your body reacts to water losses... You're still in a deficit though so it could partially far loss...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/17/12 08:09 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Back on track. Only gained 5 pounds over the 2 weeks I was home visiting my parents...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/18/12 10:19 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

191.5 up a pound from last week. \:\(

This feeds my theory that it takes a couple of days for weight to show up on me. I was 190 on Sunday--after eating out Fri night and Sat night. Granted I had put in 50 miles on my bike.

Today, after eating very reasonably, I'm up. It's just so crazy, because I was eating so much more last summer, exercising way less (2 bike rides a week, some pullups/pushups here and there) and I was staying at the same weight the whole summer (195). I actually got down to 189 at one point toward the end of the summer.

I think I'll put in 15 or so miles on the singlespeed today out of spite.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/18/12 01:19 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

if you're not tracking your calories you don't really know what's going on... if you have something to look at you can see why you may have gone up... you obviously were over your ML over the last week though...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/18/12 02:18 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Started tracking the day after I got back. Going through detox this week and next week start back at the gym.

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
04/18/12 04:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm amazed that after eating anythjng and everything in sight, including drink after sugary goodness tropical drink, for a week....less than 2 weeks later I'm back down to my pre vacation weight.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/18/12 04:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

hit 201.9 this morning... i think that puts me down a total of 50.6 since 12/1/11...

5/3/1 2nd round coming up next week, so intensity will increase, and we'll see how that goes... probably try and up my cals by 100 a day on traning days and stay where i am on off days...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/18/12 06:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
hit 201.9 this morning... i think that puts me down a total of 50.6 since 12/1/11...



Holy shit man that's crazy! 50lbs is A LOT of weight to drop! Nice going!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/18/12 06:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Word--definitely savage.

SelfEntitledProdigy
(Post Master)
04/19/12 12:52 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well I had to go back stateside for 2 months for school and while there I was stuck eating out most of the time or at the dinning facility (which is shit). I went from 224 (20 Feb) back up to 233 (15 Apr). Got home on Sunday and I am already back down to 226. Feels great to be able to control my diet and get back in the gym full time. Here is to finishing what I started. Shooting for 205 by August 1st.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/19/12 08:23 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

"eating out" doesn't automatically add weight fellas... It's eating too much... ;-)

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 02:05 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So holy shit...was looking for a picture through my phone and I ran across this from July 31st, 2011. I couldn't freaking believe it, I look like the damn marshmellow man! It's so crazy because at the time, I didn't really consider myself that big but looking at the picture it's almost hard to believe I really looked like this.

Beings nuts as I am, I put on the same shirt now and had my wife snap a similar picture.
I was 190lbs in the picture on the left and 165 in the picture on the right.


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 05:06 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Awesome, man! I think the craziest part though is it looks like you are preparing meat in your bathroom sink?? LAWLZOR?

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 07:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

YAY! Under 200 pounds for the first time in about 10 years.

199.2


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 10:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
YAY! Under 200 pounds for the first time in about 10 years.

199.2


Kick ass man! Feels good huh? \:D


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 10:04 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: FireInTheWhole
Awesome, man! I think the craziest part though is it looks like you are preparing meat in your bathroom sink?? LAWLZOR?




So fitting for my big ass in that picture, isn't it? \:D We were at a cabin with some friends and I was preparing a meat platter for lunch, there was no kitchen in the cabin.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 10:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
YAY! Under 200 pounds for the first time in about 10 years.

199.2


Congrats man. I hope to hit that mark soon as well. Been stuck between 214-216 for the past 30 days and got some advice from you guys last week. I'm at 210 today, and that's without much gym time. Although I did finally hit a goal Thursday. Did an hour long hill climb on the elliptical at level 15 resistance. Been trying to do that for a month.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 11:16 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Shicken
 Originally Posted By: Yo Shark Attack
YAY! Under 200 pounds for the first time in about 10 years.

199.2


Congrats man. I hope to hit that mark soon as well. Been stuck between 214-216 for the past 30 days and got some advice from you guys last week. I'm at 210 today, and that's without much gym time. Although I did finally hit a goal Thursday. Did an hour long hill climb on the elliptical at level 15 resistance. Been trying to do that for a month.


Going home for 2 weeks has taught me something. I need to go off my low-carb menu more often and do more carb loading. When I got back home, I weighed in at 206. That was Monday. Of course, it was probably water retention. ;\)

Now that I'm through the initial detox again, I will start gym work again on Monday with the SS program. I also have all morning classes this semester and I'm only bowling 1 day a week (2 at the most), so I can go to the gym every day.

:woot:


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 11:26 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Does carb loading really matter? I mean it sounds like the carbs just inflate your numbers (probably cause you to retain water) and then when you cut them out, you lose the water and it makes it look like you lost a bunch of weight but how much of it was fat?

It's like last night, went out and had a burger and fries and then a gelato afterwards...carb overload! My scale this morning is 3lbs higher than yesterday. Does that mean I gained 3lbs of fat? No, it means I'm probably retaining a crapload of water so in 3 days when it all goes away and I'm down 3.25lbs, I won't be happy thinking I lost 3.25lbs, I'll think I lost .25lbs.

I keep it simple in that respect...count calories, count protein (to make sure I get enough)...the rest of the stuff I don't care if it comes from carbs, protein or whatever as long as if fits within the calories I'm trying to stay at.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 11:29 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My problem is I can typically only get to the gym Monday-Thursday. I only went 3 times this past week, and feel shitty. Guess I'm getting to the point where my body desires a work out. I start to feel sluggish when I miss 3 days in a row. I can't wait to see that number and hope it's only a few weeks at my current rate. I guess the question after that is what weight I should aim for before I stop the calorie deficit. I aimed for 185 but I've been fat for so long I don't even know what a healthy weight on me is.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 12:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Shicken
My problem is I can typically only get to the gym Monday-Thursday. I only went 3 times this past week, and feel shitty. Guess I'm getting to the point where my body desires a work out. I start to feel sluggish when I miss 3 days in a row. I can't wait to see that number and hope it's only a few weeks at my current rate. I guess the question after that is what weight I should aim for before I stop the calorie deficit. I aimed for 185 but I've been fat for so long I don't even know what a healthy weight on me is.


How tall are you and what's your body composition like? 185 may be ok or not, really depends how much muscle you have on you now. I started at 194 with my diet and thought 175 would be good...got there and was far from it. Now at 165 and though I'm "skinny" I still have plenty of body fat left but I don't want to start looking sick from being too skinny so I'm stopping here and focusing on putting on muscle.

As for the gym, 4 days per week should be fine so don't feel bad about that.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 02:56 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I stopped putting so much energy into thinking about it. As I stated, it was probably water.

All I can say is prior to my going on vacation, I couldn't break the 200 lb. mark. I come back, detox and now at 199.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
04/21/12 10:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: Shicken
My problem is I can typically only get to the gym Monday-Thursday. I only went 3 times this past week, and feel shitty. Guess I'm getting to the point where my body desires a work out. I start to feel sluggish when I miss 3 days in a row. I can't wait to see that number and hope it's only a few weeks at my current rate. I guess the question after that is what weight I should aim for before I stop the calorie deficit. I aimed for 185 but I've been fat for so long I don't even know what a healthy weight on me is.


How tall are you and what's your body composition like? 185 may be ok or not, really depends how much muscle you have on you now. I started at 194 with my diet and thought 175 would be good...got there and was far from it. Now at 165 and though I'm "skinny" I still have plenty of body fat left but I don't want to start looking sick from being too skinny so I'm stopping here and focusing on putting on muscle.

As for the gym, 4 days per week should be fine so don't feel bad about that.


I use to be pretty thin but I would guess I have a medium sized frame. When I worked at Pepsi 5 years ago lifting shit all day I was about 195 a size 34 and had a bit of a belly. As far as muscle I have on me now....lol none. On the curl machine I struggle to lift 45lb 10 times.


slackereg6
(Member)
04/22/12 01:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

154 this morning. Goal was to be under 155 for my first marathon next weekend.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/23/12 10:39 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Whoa this was pretty crazy...doing bench press tonight I miscalculated the plates and instead of 160lb I put on 180lbs. Started the set and thought holy fuck why is this so heavy! I was only able to do one rep but I guess I now know my 1RM!

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
04/24/12 12:07 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've been not-so-good about diet for the past 4 days. I'm not holding much hope for the scale on Wed despite a solid workout schedule. \:\(

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/24/12 06:06 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

198 this morning. I think my initial detox weight loss has leveled off so back to the gym. Today is also my first day of fasting. I't my busy day with 2 classes, bowling practice and league tonight. I will check how I feel after 12 hours and determine if I want to go 16 or the full 24 hours.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/24/12 07:52 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It's much easier if you starry your fast the night before and sleep through the start of it then get 10-12 hous more into your day...

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/24/12 08:55 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
It's much easier if you starry your fast the night before and sleep through the start of it then get 10-12 hous more into your day...



Yep, starting to realize that now.

My last meal is usually around 6pm and always before 8pm so I will start from there.


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/24/12 09:17 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It's still a bit of trial and error for me to find out there best starting time but it does make sense to stastart later in the day.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/25/12 05:27 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well, 24 hour fast wasn't difficult after all. I had a protein shake before I started the fast at 630am yesterday morning. Throughout the day I drank water and seltzer. I was pretty much busy all day with 2 classes, bowling practice, a power nap and league bowling in the evening. No headaches, irritability or hunger pangs. Now on to cook a decent breakfast and get my day started.

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
04/25/12 11:16 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So I have a new question. Now that I'm losing weight again, am I losing too much, too fast now? I'm pretty clueless on how weight loss affects the body, but always heard losing more than 2lb a week can hurt you. Any truth to this? For those that didn't see my other thread I stopped going by net calorie, and just total calorie. I aim for 1500-1650/day with a day or two in the week where I eat something I've been craving, or go out drinking.





HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/25/12 11:31 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It will probably level of a little and not drop as drastically once you get past the initial drop from water weight and such. I think it's alright.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/25/12 11:42 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You're fine... Your body will let you know if you're losing too fast...

If you start feeling lethargic, have trouble concentrating, or even sleeping then look to change up, otherwise as Val said the loss will start to level off at some point...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/26/12 07:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well I was 198.9 this morning which was an unexpected drop for me but am
Going to reweigh after I rehydrate this morning a little bit...

Under 2 bills is new territory for me... Lol


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/26/12 07:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

197 this morning. I donated about 8 pairs of pants and XL shirts to Goodwill this morning.

Doing another IF today. Bigger breakfast this morning to carry me through.


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 09:33 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

189lbs this morning!

First time I've been in the 180's in over 10 years. Down to a 34 waist as well. Still have a bit of jelly roll though \:\(


this morning


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 12:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

you must be really short bro...

Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 12:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
you must be really short bro...


5'7" \:\(


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 12:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: GoonerYoda
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
you must be really short bro...


5'7" \:\(


Keep working at it man. Honestly you should probably be in the 150lb range for your height which you may or may not want to hear but you're going in the right direction. Just keep working at it.


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 01:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
 Originally Posted By: GoonerYoda
 Originally Posted By: DieZel
you must be really short bro...


5'7" \:\(


Keep working at it man. Honestly you should probably be in the 150lb range for your height which you may or may not want to hear but you're going in the right direction. Just keep working at it.


I thought it was 165?

I was 221 lbs Jan 2011. Slow and steady wins the race.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 03:04 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Why 165?

I think OB1 on here is 155lbs and he's 5'10" and I'm 6' and 165lbs.


98V-TeC
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 03:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
Why 165?

I think OB1 on here is 155lbs and he's 5'10" and I'm 6' and 165lbs.


What is your ultimate goal if you don't mind me asking? Cut the fat then add muscle? I'm 6' 178ish and I feel small. I was a solid 190 before my wrist surgery and everything went to shit. \:\(


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 03:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I don't really have a weight goal per se, just want to "look better". But yes, cut the fat and add muscle. Planning to up my calories starting next week as I ramp up the squats/deadlifts/power cleans again after taking 3 weeks off due to an injury. I've been at a strict 1750 calories for the past couple months and I've seen my weight drop just a bit so I want to see what it'll do at 2000 and how that affects my lifts and overall appearance.



Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 04:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

lose the fat number one.

But we'll see the results after I finish P90X
*waits for the haters*


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 04:59 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
lol P90X...haven't you been at it like a year now? Weight loss, that is....


Start and stop for various reasons. Mostly, I was just getting in my own way mentally. Shit happens. At least I'm doing SOMETHING.

But I'm six weeks in. ;\)


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 05:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That shit is so true man. Remember my niece I was talking about who was dieting and going to the gym? Well now she stopped the gym too because "her and her dad are going to START running outdoors." Right...they are going to start. That's all you hear from so many people, they are going to start doing this or that. Stop "starting" and actually do it.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 06:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Ok, so I did 2 days of fasting this week. 24 hours on Tues and Thurs and I feel GREAT! I didn't get hungry either day. No I'll effects and I woke up the following day energized. I didn't gorge the following day. I ate a regular breakfast, with a protein shake for lunch and a lite dinner.

I think I will do this every week until I hit my goal. Tuesday night is league night so no gym time but Thursdays I will do a light 30 minute cardio workout.

Life is good.


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 06:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I personally have no opinion on P90X, so long as you're active it really doesn't matter.


Thanks!


Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 06:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Congrats on the loss! Keep it up!

98V-TeC
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 07:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: GoonerYoda
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I personally have no opinion on P90X, so long as you're active it really doesn't matter.


Thanks!


P90x is legit if you stick with it and keep your diet in check. I know several friends, young and old, that have lost significant weight using it.

Personally, I fucking hate it. I did it for a while and I just kept thinking about how I wanted to murder Tony Horton. Working out in front of the TV is not for me, although I still do the ab ripper from time to time on my own.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 10:20 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
That shit is so true man. Remember my niece I was talking about who was dieting and going to the gym? Well now she stopped the gym too because "her and her dad are going to START running outdoors." Right...they are going to start. That's all you hear from so many people, they are going to start doing this or that. Stop "starting" and actually do it.


This, so much this. For the longest times I made excuses saying that I will do/change this starting next week/month/year. Then last year I had some really fucked up things happen to me and was sick of myself. Quit smoking, quit drinking(mostly, still go out a few times a month), and finally sick of being a fatty. After I quit smoking I shot up to 244 and was disgusted with myself. Now I'm down to 206, and finally starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's been almost 7 months since I realized I need to change my life and in a few more months I should be where I want.

Now I just need a career...


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/27/12 11:16 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 98V-TeC
 Originally Posted By: GoonerYoda
 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I personally have no opinion on P90X, so long as you're active it really doesn't matter.


Thanks!


P90x is legit if you stick with it and keep your diet in check. I know several friends, young and old, that have lost significant weight using it.

Personally, I fucking hate it. I did it for a while and I just kept thinking about how I wanted to murder Tony Horton. Working out in front of the TV is not for me, although I still do the ab ripper from time to time on my own.


I just put it on mute and just rock out some music. No need to hear him speak.

I wanna bang that little German chick though. She needs to upgrade to Boobs 2.0 though.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
04/28/12 07:36 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It may be legit for losing weight, but it's not legit for hypertrophy or strength... It's just a glorified aerobic program... I will say if you're doing the pullups it could give you some back development but with a lack of heavier chest movements you'll just end up "uneven"...

I understand not everyone may have time to train in a traditional way but I also know alot of people just make bullshit excuses...


Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
04/28/12 07:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

196 this morning.

I'm going to celebrate by cooking a healthy breakfast.


Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/28/12 09:53 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
It may be legit for losing weight, but it's not legit for hypertrophy or strength... It's just a glorified aerobic program....


And that's fine by me at this point


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
04/28/12 10:39 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

164.6 lbs this morning...crazy shit! On my way right now to "get dunked" and have my RMR test done and then time to up the calories!

CStyles45
(Post Master Sr)
04/28/12 11:16 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



lessthanmike
(Major Member)
04/28/12 11:31 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Taken yesterday

I know the bike kit doesn't show much but it's the most recent pic


CStyles45
(Post Master Sr)
04/28/12 11:33 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012



Gooneryoda
(Post Master Supreme)
04/28/12 06:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OBGYN1
I'll just lay this out there...I said the same thing when I was fat. And now I regret the year I wasted on only losing weight and not getting stronger too...when I could have done both very easily. *schedule speaking


I'm in no rush.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
05/02/12 10:58 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Either my body has gotten super efficient or it's just saying "Fuck you, you wanted to lose weight, I'll show you losing weight!" because my weight keeps dropping. I'm 164.0 this morning, new lowest again by a pretty big margin...and I've been eating more. Guess I need to eat even more.

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/02/12 01:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Did you ever think you were eating too little to begin with? I've seen that a lot from people on MFP forums. They are eating 1200-1400 a day and can't lose weight. They bump it up to 1500-1600 and start dropping again.

On that note, I've been horrible with my diet this week and it shows. I've put on 5lb since last week and pretty much want to kill myself for it.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
05/02/12 01:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

5 real pounds...or a lot of water weight? You would of had to over eat A LOT to actually put on 5 pounds, like 17,500 calories over maintenance.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/02/12 01:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

that's not really that hard if you eat like shit for an entire week...

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/04/12 11:11 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: HX_Guy
5 real pounds...or a lot of water weight? You would of had to over eat A LOT to actually put on 5 pounds, like 17,500 calories over maintenance.


I'm sure a pound or two was water weight since it's starting to drop again now that I'm back on the wagon. All I ate for 4 days straight was bread, sugar, and alcohol. So I'm not sure if it's actual fat or not but I would assume it is since I was around 3kcal/day 4 out of 7 days last week. Back to 1550 now and it's starting to come off again.

I had my fat bastard moment where I was eating because I was depressed, and depressed because I'm fat. It really is a vicious cycle.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/04/12 11:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Sodium increases will certainly increase your weight... I know this first hand from yesterday... Had well over my typical amount and jumped 2lbs from day before... No big deal though...

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
05/04/12 12:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yea same thing here actually...had a lot more sodium yesterday than I typically have and it shows on the scale plus I could feel it in my hands this morning when I woke up, my wedding ring was a lot tighter than normal.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
05/09/12 01:09 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

189.0 this morning

Down a couple of pounds since I last checked in here. \:\)

I won't make my goal of 185 by my birthday (this Saturday), but oh well--it'll happen soon enough...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/09/12 02:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

198.1 for me this morning... nice work, and you should hit 185 by month end...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
05/09/12 02:24 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Thanks, mang. \:\)

Yeah, 4 lbs is nothing on this forum, but the weight it coming off VERY slowly for me (because diet)--but it is coming off, so I guess that's all that matters.

I'll lose a few lbs over the MS150, too. That would be the possibility of going sub-185, depending on how I do before it.

All I know is, I'm pretty stoked that my belly isn't all distended anymore.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/15/12 11:19 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

195.0 this morning... low carbing is so lame, but this is my last week for my official "cut", before i get myself out of this 4.5-5 month deficit i've been on...

time to try and add some muscle...


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/15/12 12:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Back down to 204, and going to miss my first goal which was to be sub 200 by this weekend. Oh well, I'm close and still hitting my cal goals, and getting to the gym 3-5 times a week. It has to come off at some point. Just taking a lot longer than I expected.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
05/21/12 08:30 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Since I was called out for not posting in the Fitness Forum lately.... \:D

I have been having issues with my sciatic the past few weeks which has kept me out of the gym. Although I haven't been working out regularly, I haven't changed my clean eating habits. I'm still hovering between 196 and 200. Hopefully after a few more therapy sessions, (massage and acupuncture) I can get back in the gym again.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 12:43 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Took a weekend vacation with my Dad, his wife, and the new g/f. Calorie counting be damned! Back up to 209, but it will come off like it did last time. I'm just fascinated by how quickly I can put on 4 or 5 pounds, and it not be water weight. This is the third time I went off my diet for 3 or 4 days and jumped out 4-6 pounds in the time span. This past time I made sure my sodium levels stayed as low as possible to keep water weight out of the equation. And if it was water weight it would come off in a day or two right? Last time it took 12 days to get those pounds off.

Oh well. It's a work in progress. My fat neck will disappear at some point this year.

Me and my girl this past weekend. It's kind of shitty that the more weight I lose, the more I hate the eye glasses I bought when I was 40lb heavier.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 12:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

This next week will be very tricky. I've slacked on diet over the past 5 days and we'll be away from home for much of the coming long weekend. I hope a 50 mile bike ride on Wed will mitigate some of the damage, and I'll either run or bring my singlespeed to our friends' beachhouse on Saturday, but that won't change how much grilled meat will be served over the weekend.

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 01:14 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
This next week will be very tricky. I've slacked on diet over the past 5 days and we'll be away from home for much of the coming long weekend. I hope a 50 mile bike ride on Wed will mitigate some of the damage, and I'll either run or bring my singlespeed to our friends' beachhouse on Saturday, but that won't change how much grilled meat will be served over the weekend.


If you're taking a mini vacation then eat whatever the hell you want man. That's what I did this past weekend and I would have not been nearly as happy if I stuck to my diet. Yeah, I'm pissed I gained a bunch of weight but I had a blast drinking and eating burgers, ribs and french fries every day. Just make sure that when the weekend is over, so is the shitty diet. I ate 1300 net calorie today. It sucked, but I'm back on my routine. Tomorrow will be 1500 total cal. It will suck even more.


Edit: Realize that this is a permanent life style change. You need to find, and reach a weight range that you will stay at the rest of your life. You can't be a diet nazi every single day for the rest of your life. Well....I guess you can but why would you? You can be healthy and still eat like total garbage every now and then. The problem most of us here have is it stopped being a treat. Smashing a 20pc McNugget, and large fry became normal. Eating ribs coated in sugary BBQ sauce became routine. Our portions and guts got bigger. Avoid that shit, keep portions small, keep the calorie count low for most(90+%) of your life and you will be good.

This way you can go out a few weekends in the summer and get drunk and merry off rum and bacon cheeseburgers. You can do it, and not worry about a stroke or losing a foot to diabetes because you keep your shit in order the rest of the year.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 02:22 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

You can put on water weight without sodium.

You seriously think you OVERATE by 15,000 calories in 3 days? I'd like to see that grocery bill.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 03:27 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I guess it could be, but shouldn't water weight come off in a day or two once you get back on your diet?

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 03:33 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Not always.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 08:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Shicken
I guess it could be, but shouldn't water weight come off in a day or two once you get back on your diet?


Nah it can take several days to lose that especially if you're not involved in some sort of training...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
05/22/12 12:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm really starting to lean out again, without really trying. Hit a new all time low of 157 over the weekend. Of course, 50 mile run weeks paired with 150 miles on the bike will burn off just about anything you try to ingest.

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/23/12 11:22 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well, I think I'm going to have to start cooking my own meals soon as I get done with my move in July. I hate cooking in my current kitchen. I knew I had a lot of sodium in my diet, but just felt as long as my blood pressure was in the normal range I didn't have to worry. Now that I'm tracking Sodium like I am calories it's alarming at how high my intake is. I'm eating anywhere from 6,000-11,000mg a day. Everything I eat is loaded with salt. I think next week I'm going to try really hard to stick around 3,000mg and see what happens.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/23/12 11:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That's fucking insane man... No wonder you're holding water...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
05/24/12 09:31 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Shicken
I'm eating anywhere from 6,000-11,000mg a day. Everything I eat is loaded with salt.




Start cooking for yourself so you can control you sodium intake. That's not only insane, it's dangerous.

Anyway, I was 188.25 this morning after yesterday's 62 mile ride. I'm not getting attached to that number because of this coming long weekend of cookouts.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/24/12 08:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I actually screwed that up. I rechecked the nutritional info at my work place and somehow I added a digit for the sodium column. So, my intake is about 3-4k less than what I thought it was. Still hit numbers in the 3,500-7,000mg which is way too high.

I knew there was no way my sodium could be that high without my blood pressure through the roof.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
05/25/12 11:12 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Doin' the swerve Diezel style!



Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
05/25/12 06:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Never thought I'd say this to a guy but: you need some tittays.


Looking good though!


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
05/25/12 08:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Tell me about it! \:\(

The Starting Strength program has been working great for me it seems everywhere buy my chest. I stalled at 160lbs last time and reset back to 145lbs, now I'm almost back up to 160lbs again and it feels real hard, I doubt I'll pass 160lbs. My chest just doesn't seem to want to grow.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
05/25/12 11:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm puzzled by it. There HAS to be a way to build it up--my knee-jerk thought would be to do more chest exercises. I dunno. Talk to a good trainer to see what can be done.

I know you're a strict constitutionalist in terms of SS, but it seems like some action outside of the box needs to happen.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 06:23 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I did my own Fit 2 Fat 2 Fit thing. Just wanted to experiment a little bit to see exactly what happens when you eat over maintenance, regardless of activity level.

Starting point, last November, 168-172 lbs:


I didn't change my activity level. Still played soccer at least 5 times a week, and three times per week lifting at th gym. This is what happened after 6 months of that, even busting my ass on every single workout and every single game. And lifting numbers? No rate of progress change or additional muscle built despite all the excess calories, and plenty of protein.

This is as far as I could take it. Couldn't stand the sight of myself any longer, so I had to put an end to this little experiment with a QUICKNESS. @196 lbs:




So, a month ago, I tightened up the diet, and this was last night @182:



I figure I'm about two weeks out from being back to exactly where I was in November. About damn time.

So, the moral of the story is: you can't out train a bad diet. And surplus calories don't necessarily mean you will build more muscle or get stronger. I wasn't any stronger at 196 than I was at 172 or am right now. Really, all it does is put you through an unnecessary yo-yo in weight. Leangains for life, yo. Now that I've done this, there is zero reason for me to ever consider a bulking cycle ever again. It's not worth it.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 08:57 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That's pretty crazy to go through that. Did you note down how many calories you were eating or you just ate whatever you wanted and didn't keep track?

And you should start a new thread on this whole thing. \:\)


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 09:10 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Pretty much just ate whatever I felt like eating.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 12:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'd like to see what percentage over your maintenance level you were... This is essential information in this equation...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 01:00 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm down net for the week at about 2600 per day... I'll be upping cals to 2700 a day next week... Haven't cut cardio at this point, want to find maintenance level first then dial back cardio to 4 days vs 6-7...

194.3 as of this morning...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 06:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
I'd like to see what percentage over your maintenance level you were... This is essential information in this equation...


At least 100% over, not including exercise.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 09:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dang yeah that's alot of calories...

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
05/27/12 11:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah, almost 3500/day I would say.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/28/12 10:15 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Looks like there aren't many of us still here... Weather getting nicer I suppose...

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/28/12 01:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Still here, just doing my normal routine and losing a couple of pounds a week. Starting to notice the body fat % dropping though. I can actually see some muscle under my fat now!

137
(Post Master Supreme)
05/28/12 11:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I finally broke into the 170's, had a bombshell dropped on me and did some depression eating/drinking for 48 hours. back up 12lbs. So now just letting it burn off to get back to where I was.

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
05/30/12 12:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah we all have those. That 12 pounds will drop off in a few days so don't worry too much about it.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/30/12 01:01 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

no we don't all have "those"... i just got some shitty news too, but stuck with my diet and didn't go binge and have a pity party...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/30/12 05:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

actually 42K... ;\)

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/30/12 08:11 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Lol ok then..

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
05/30/12 08:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I might be wrong, but if he's lost a bunch of weight, there is a possibility that some of it could have been water weight. So, by eating and drinking more, he gained back the water, plus the excess calories

Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
05/30/12 09:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Wayne jogs while wearing one of those plastic bag sauna suits, then drinks 5 gallons of water a day...of course he's going to see some extreme fluctuations in weight. It has very little to do with actual fat loss though.

137
(Post Master Supreme)
05/31/12 12:47 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
no we don't all have "those"... i just got some shitty news too, but stuck with my diet and didn't go binge and have a pity party...


totally, only me and cory.

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/6351946

 Originally Posted By: Mr. Mom (prude)
Wayne jogs while wearing one of those plastic bag sauna suits, then drinks 5 gallons of water a day...of course he's going to see some extreme fluctuations in weight. It has very little to do with actual fat loss though.


while that would be totally retro and hipsterlicious of me, I just wear this guy every now and then. I'm not cutting water weight for a goal since like someone else said it's not true weight loss. But you do burn a bit more cals due to the heat your body's producing.

http://youtu.be/whU34tUU-rw


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
05/31/12 10:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Holding steady at 188. Actually lost .25 \:\) I kept it under control for all but one day of the long weekend and ate very sensibly Tuesday and Wednesday.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/31/12 01:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

shit i lost weight from the day before at 2700 cals... must be stress related...

fuck...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
05/31/12 01:26 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
shit i lost weight from the day before at 2700 cals... must be stress related...

fuck...


Your body is still in cut mode dude, just maintain whatever level of stuff you're doing and don't up it all crazy otherwise it's going to hit like a wall of bricks.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
05/31/12 07:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

just increasing 100 per week... i hadn't lost weight like that in 2 weeks... 2 pound drop outta nowhere yesterday...

i've been dropping maybe .5 a week the last 2...

i'll see what happens tomorrow morning cause that stress is still working on my ass all day today... i've managed to get all my meals in even though i didn't feel like eating anything...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/12 12:09 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I got one more thing I need to shovel in me for the night and I think I'm just going to pass on it before starting my fast.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/12 01:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Almost 48 hours down for this fast.

Although, due to the painkillers I have to take, I have had 2 slices of cheese in two days, so it's not quite a fast


137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/12 04:12 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

you haven't eaten for 2 days? why?

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/12 11:26 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Too much food on memorial day.

Dahlia
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/12 03:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

My body has been a complete bitch this week in regards to my muscular endurance. Stressed, started a new job, didn't eat enough 3 days in a row. I'm paying for it now.
Going to get settled in a proper eating pattern for my new job (wasn't prepared this week) and lower my weights for metcons for the next few weeks - keeping my weights up during lifting sessions though.
Bitchy body owned me - I take full responsibility for it.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/12 03:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

193.2 today... Held steady from previous day...

All my weights are increasing though which is good... My flat bench it just weak at this point... My set of 3+ @ 210 I only managed 6 reps... I just get stuck about 6-8" outta the hole...

With the dumbbell work I went up though which made me happy... Last week I did 75 - 10,10,10,8,7 today I did 80 - 10,10,10,9,8... I may just stick with 80 and see if I can get the full 50 reps... Although moving to the 85s and going for sets of at least 8 seems appealing too...


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
06/01/12 11:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

12 hours to go!

137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/02/12 12:15 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

fasts for 48 hours, eats face off significant other lol.

Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
06/02/12 01:20 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Heh, actually, the longer this goes, the less hungry I am.

Although, I did have to fight off a massive craving for vanilla ice cream a few hours ago.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
06/02/12 12:12 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Silock
Heh, actually, the longer this goes, the less hungry I am.



Depends on the day. Sometimes the hunger sensation just goes away in time, other times I get downright irrational.

I don't fast, though. I try to do the "only eat when I'm hungry" bit.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/07/12 01:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

hanging right around 194.2-.3 right now...

up to about 2800 gross calories a day... see if i can maintain this weight for about a week, and then start upping cals a gain... may just give it a bump to 3000 and go from there...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 03:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Haven't checked in here for a while, but that doesn't mean I've stopping my diet or going to the gym though it hasn't been the regular routine lately. Went to NYC for a week where I didn't diet and didn't lift/gym but walked miles and miles daily...came back and my weight was up 3lbs compared to pre-vacation.

Started hitting the gym as soon as I came back and I don't know what the fuck the deal is but I feel very weak compared to before, can't even manage to do a full squat workout at 185lbs (pre vacation I was at 190lbs no problem and my highest is 205lbs before I reset and got back up to 190lbs prior to vacation). I have no idea why I'm so weak...all the walking around? No freaking clue but it's frustrating as fuck. I've been doing the 2250 calories per day and not counting on weekends really and my weight is around 170lbs (up 4 lbs from my lowest). I'm going to cut back to 2000 calories and keep pushing at the gym, not sure what else I can do to get the strength back up but figure maybe I needed a little bit of a break?



HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 04:07 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Thanks, that helped. \:\(

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 04:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

if your strength is declining, your body is saying "no mas"... take a few days off and acrtually rest, and what do your macros look like on that 2200...?

you crack me up cause you're workouts are shit, and you plan to cut back your calories...?

that's brilliant...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 05:38 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

What do you mean my workout are shit?

Not sure on macros, I only track calories/protein/fiber but I have around 200g of protein per day in those 2250 calories.

Reason I want to cut back my calories is because my weight is going up a bit, and it's obviously not from putting on muscle, and I feel I was performing a little better when I was eating less.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 05:42 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

i meant that your strength in the gym is declining, meaning your workouts are shit... not saying the program is shit, just saying your workouts have been "shitty"...

well you haven't trained in over a week, ate like shit, it makes sense that your weight has gone up... i wouldn't make a rash decision and immediately cut calories, and think that's the fix...

id like to to see your macro setup for a trpical day though, just out of curiosity... for all your analness i'm surprised you're not on MFP, cause it's really easy to track your macros there...

stick with the 2250 and maybe reset your weight on the squat...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 07:45 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel


id like to to see your macro setup for a trpical day though, just out of curiosity...


Kept track today and here is the breakdown, which is pretty typical of my Mon-Fri...

Calories: 2000
Protein: 203
Carbs: 219
Fat: 47

So I'm roughly at a 40/40/20 split. Is that good? What should it be?


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 08:29 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

it's fine, but what are you attempting to do currently...? are you trying to gain muscle mass now...?

2000 means you're still in a deficit, but i don't know all your stats...

your protein is probably higher than it needs to be... 170 is sufficient, and will allow you to eat more carbs which will fuel your workouts better... 47g of fat is kinda low unless you're trying to cut...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 09:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm attempting to built more muscle, to increase my strength and to not put on body fat. I can already see a difference in the mirror when looking at my abs with the +4 lbs that I've up compared to my lowest. If that +4 was muscle, it would be good, but my strength is down and I missed a week at the gym so it's obviously not muscle.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 09:52 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

If you're trying to build muscle stop acting like a girl and fresking out over a couple of pounds... Just eat 2500 calories, 170g of protein, 80g of fat fill in the rest with carbs and gain done muscle...

You aren't building muscle on that hypo caloric diet, but you could still lose fat on 2500 cals...


shamrok
(Post Master Sr)
06/11/12 10:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I know its not 2012 but
then


and now sorta (from last summer)


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
06/11/12 10:21 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
If you're trying to build muscle stop acting like a girl and fresking out over a couple of pounds... Just eat 2500 calories, 170g of protein, 80g of fat fill in the rest with carbs and gain done muscle...




Ok how about we negotiate and meet in the middle here? \:D

Today I'm at 1700 cal, 164 protein, 190 carbs and 40 fat so far (still have 1 meal left which I had planned out which is how I had the final numbers earlier).

So, for the last meal, I'll put something together around 500 cal/10 protein/20+ fat and the rest carbs? Actually thinking about seeing a movie tonight, will a small popcorn do the trick? \:D

I'll stick to the 2250 calories a bit longer and see how it goes, sort of panicked with the weight but it may not have been a air assessment with the vacation and all.

EDIT: Ok so ended up having a PB&J sandwich with a cup of milk which was 415 cal/20g protein/50g carbs/15g fat. Numbers for the day ended up at 2115 calories/184g protein/240g carbs/55g fat.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 12:10 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: shamrok
I know its not 2012 but
then


and now sorta (from last summer)



God damn--nice transformation into a racing cyclist. Badass.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 12:36 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Jesus....I don't see how some of you guys can do this shit hard core. I lose my mind a bit just tracking calories. I try to keep fat, sugar, and now sodium low, but counting carbs, protein and every single nutrient. Fuck that....

Don't get me wrong, I admire your willpower, and by no means am I talking shit. It's something that fascinates me.

Edit: Hit 199lb today. First time under 200lb in about 6 years. I'm celebrating by drinking 1200 calories worth of rum. Actually this week of worked sucked dick so that's why I'm drinking. I hate my job and just worked 9 days in a row...


137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 01:09 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Carbs, protein, fat everything else is irrelevant since I don't eat sodium loaded foods constantly, fat always seems to be my achilles but then again my diet is high fat so it's lose lose in that area.

Going to up the activity level so I burn more cals, running outside was nice but sadly I'm going to have to take this to the treadmill and the stairmaster to get my set calorie burn in cardio wise and then do my crossfit or strength training separately.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 02:06 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Can't out-train a bad diet, man. It would be easier to just back off the cals than add even more exercise.

Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 04:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
Carbs, protein, fat everything else is irrelevant since I don't eat sodium loaded foods constantly, fat always seems to be my achilles but then again my diet is high fat so it's lose lose in that area.

Going to up the activity level so I burn more cals, running outside was nice but sadly I'm going to have to take this to the treadmill and the stairmaster to get my set calorie burn in cardio wise and then do my crossfit or strength training separately.


Look man, it's very fucking simple. If you are looking to lose weight, then you do nothing but count calories. That's everything you need to know. I have had weeks where I eat horrible sugary fatty retarded shit, and lost weight. It all comes down to cals in, and cals out. Fuck fat content, fiber, whole grain, sugar, fiber, carbs, protein...it's all bullshit if you're trying to drop weight. Count your calories and nothing else. Hit your calorie goal every fucking day for two weeks.

You will be amazed at how easy it is to drop weight. I have this shit down to a science. Which kind of sucks because it allows me to get drunk as shit. I know that I will jump up 3-4lb 36hours from now. Then 4 days from now I will drop a pound or two. You have to give up some shit, but you will get used to eating different.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 07:00 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I kinda chuckle when people that come on here bitching that they gained 5-10 pounds in a week, wonder how the fuck that happened and then want to nail down a statement as if it's the only thing that matters...

In essence you're right about cals in vs cals out... No argument there... But to think that's all that matters is foolish... Your body has other needs aside from its energy needs... Sure you can eat a cupcake based diet and still lose weight... What kinda weight...? Bet you wouldn't be as healthy as a person who ate a well rounded caloric deficit diet... You wouldn't feel better, your workouts wouldn't be as intense...

Wayne I haven't been seeing your diary but drew is right, you can't out train a shitty diet man... And that paleo shit isn't doing you any good...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 07:01 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Oh yeah and getting drink as shot isn't good for anything, especially weight loss... But hey man you guys can do whatever you want... I'm just a spectator...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 10:10 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Oh yeah and getting drink as shot isn't good for anything,


Were you drink as shot when you typed that???


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/12/12 10:19 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

No but I was using an iPhone keypad..

137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 12:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel

Wayne I haven't been seeing your diary but drew is right, you can't out train a shitty diet man... And that paleo shit isn't doing you any good...


Still snackin here and there, but we've made a pact to not eat any cupcakes that we've tried before so only new flavors or nothing. They had one today my friend made me eat first and said "IS IT WORTH TRYING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GOOD AND THIS IS A FUCKING GATEWAY, WOULD YOU GET IT AGAIN." lol as if a building was about to explode depending on my answer.

Fasting for slightly longer periods, for the past couple of days I haven't really given a shit about the food I eat, it's nothing horrendous but it's nothing angelic either like a scoop of whey and fish pills or whatever you're taking.

I do see the days you get your snack on and I have to wonder if you feel like shit crushing pop tarts and that stuff after eating so clean.

As far as I'm concerned I have a daily caloric burn goal for the week of 1200-1500 calories. The 165 thing isn't happening, I said I was going to do it and might as well just say fuck cutting weight. But fuck getting fat as well. I want to get stronger and fill my body out not shrink down smaller than this again.



Sure it looks cool to be shredded, I get it but I honestly just don't feel like committing to it at this time.

I'm a little fuller now



and this is just now at work, after dinner and everything and my pants where they belong instead of the top of my dick and halfway down my ass. I want a realistic idea of what I look wearing clothes when doing these pictures all though I fapped to Cory's naked picture j/k



go ahead call me a fatass. *cries*


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 01:59 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish. You're still carrying a decent amount of fat, and you don't want to lose it?

137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 04:56 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I have a high body fat percentage, only way to lose it is to remain on a super strict diet.

I want to get strong, not body build if that makes sense.

That's all I'm trying to accomplish.


Silock
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 05:35 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Losing bodyfat and getting stronger aren't necessarily at cross purposes, but I totally get that staying low cal for a long time is mentally draining. Just make sure that you don't blow up again using strength gaining as an excuse.

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 06:51 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Wayne to answer your question about banging a couple pop tarts at the end of the day...

NO... I have no remorse, I actually look forward to it... They fit into my macros and I've crushed my micros throughout the day so I have room for that freebie, so to speak...

Some people bastardize IIFYM to eat whatever they want and make it fit... I make sure I get my vitamins and minerals in an then at the end if I need 60g carbs, and have room for 15g of fat I bang a couple fucking POP TARTS and LOVE THEM... Lol


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 06:52 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Of course I'm no longer on a deficit which makes this more possible... Wouldn't be able to fit them in on a cut most days I'm sure...

137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 08:48 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Word, I see where you're coming from. And OB1, I never gave up on being fit. I'm just putting a hold on the cutting, right now I just don't feel like doing it anymore.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 10:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm holding steady at 187.5 (same as last week).

Figuring I'll be 185 on Monday after riding the MS150. If it has the same effect as least year, I'll lose 3 lbs over the weekend, while eating 10k calories.

I'll check in then... \:\)


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 11:29 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Cutting can be mentally draining and if you're not in the right mindset you'll never get to the goal you set...

I'm glad I'm off they hypocaloric diet for now... I'll go at it again in January...


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
06/13/12 01:32 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Been holding steady at 160 the past 3 weeks or so. Took all of last week off from running to recover from the marathon (still rode the bike) but after running 6 miles on monday, my quads still weren't happy with me and let me know about it, lol. \:D

After this weekend (vegas) I'll start up with my swim training for the Ironman that is now 9 weeks out. That paired with my increased run and bike training should really help me lean out before that race.

Because I'm going to be racing in likely 90 degree temps with insane humidity, having as little possible extra weight to haul around will help a lot. I'm hoping to be 150 when I jump in the river the morning of August 26th. I want to go under 11 hours (PR is 11:36) but the plan is to race smart so I finish. If the weather keeps me from setting that PR goal, I'll be fine settling with a upright finish.


Shicken
(Post Master Supreme)
06/18/12 04:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Just an update on here. Guess this forum is kind of dead now, but I'm below 200 finally and holding steady around 197-198 since I've been drinking a bit more, and eating a bit worse. Still hitting the gym up 4 times a week so not adding any weight, just not losing it. Once I move on Wed and no longer live with anyone I should be better able to control my snacking(I get drunk and see doritos that I don't have the will power to say no too).

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
06/18/12 04:55 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: g@mby
I'm holding steady at 187.5 (same as last week).

Figuring I'll be 185 on Monday after riding the MS150. If it has the same effect as least year, I'll lose 3 lbs over the weekend, while eating 10k calories.

I'll check in then... \:\)


So I lost 2 lbs instead of 3. Didn't have to eat nearly what I did last year, either. Regardless, I felt great and I'm now 185.5--.5 lbs away from my goal. \:\)


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
06/19/12 12:30 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yeah buddy! The last couple three workouts have been so solid, I'm feeling really good about them.

Been keeping my calories at 2250/day and started taking creatine again last week Wednesday (had stopped for a few months since I ran out and never went to get more)...been having some great workouts since mid last week after I gave my legs a break for 5 days. Today did squats 185x5x3 no problem, felt really good...did bench 152.5x5x3 fairly easily and then did cleans 95x5x3 no problem, one of the best workouts I've had in a while, even if the weights weren't all that high but just felt real good doing everything. My damn weight is up some more but it jumped 3lbs within 2 days of starting to take the creatine so I have to think it's due to that as it was trending downward until I started.

I don't like that I've puffed up a little bit and lost the definition but at the same time I was looking a bit sickly at 163lbs. Going to focus on putting on some muscle and then I can trim back a bit later.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/21/12 01:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Ok so I've upped my calories to 3000 a day and have been on that track for about 7 days now... this morning i weighed myself and last Thursday I was 194.1...

this morning I was 192.9... So i'm like ok, WTF is up with that...?

I found a great article by Lyle McDonald, that cold explain what is going on here, BUT I've been slowly increasing my calories over the last 4-5 weeks, and did not just come off my hypocaloric diet last week...

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-ltdfle.html

Now I was up over the weekend to 196.3 which i expected due to higher sodium intake over the weekend... i typcially keep my sodium intake very consistent so I know this larger variance would cause some water retention...

So that's 3.4lbs down since Monday and 1.2 down since last Thursday, net...

Hopefully this will level off, and I can start adding more lean mass... I am noticably leaner over the last 10 days though, I can see it in my vascularity...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
06/26/12 08:40 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

well looks like there are only 4 days left in the challenge...

How many people are still here...?


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
06/26/12 11:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I am \:\)



Was 185.5 last week, but a couple of lbs crept back on me. Been slipping on nutrition a bit. I'll see what I weigh tomorrow or next day.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
06/27/12 12:47 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

holy shit, great job, you're about 6 foot as well right. That's a great weight for your height if so man. Really proud of you, and a few other dudes who have made big changes. I mean Diesel was already yoked before he got skinny again I was more impressed how fat he got rather than his rapid weight loss.

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
06/27/12 07:42 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Aww...

Thanks, Wayne. \:\) Props to you as well.

I'm 5'11", BTW.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/01/12 08:40 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Can i still get in on this...

I have pic from Jan 1, and stats... won't post pic til end cause it's pretty embarrassing...

Age: 35
Height: 74"
Weight: 243.6 lbs
BF%: (measured on a scale with those pads, prolly not reliable but it'll show changes) 30% \:\(
Belly button: 42"
Chest: 44"
Arms: 16"

Goal for 3/30/12: 210lbs @ < 18% BF

Will update that goal in March...


Current weight 193.8... Not sure I managed that after taking in over 4300 cals yesterday... Would have expected an increase from yesterday as I had a SHIT TON of carbs...

Will update measurements later when I have a chance...

So that put me down a total of 50.2lbs for the contest... Add another 9 to that cause my original weight in December was 252, and I'm down nearly 60...

Now I'm heading the other way til January...!!!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
07/02/12 01:13 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Nice. Those are some serious numbers. \:\)

I'll have to take some measurements tomorrow. I haven't measured anything since January.

Amazing how many people vanished since then...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/02/12 04:28 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Start / Finish



will get up measurements sometime this week then... took this pic quick after shower Saturday...


jimmyg41
(Post Master Sr)
07/02/12 07:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Awesome....when was the start picture taken?

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/02/12 08:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

December of this year... week of Christmas...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
07/02/12 11:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
December of this year... week of Christmas...


DAT SHIT CRAY.

Good work, old chap!!!


137
(Post Master Supreme)
07/03/12 05:15 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

take the after picture with the body hair bro.. DO EEEEET hahaha

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/03/12 07:17 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Lol that shit gone man, not to be seen again unless I turn into grimace again...

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/03/12 07:50 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Well hoping the next 6 months is just half as dramatic...

I'm eating like 3100-3200 cals and scale just won't hold steady... Just keeps creeping down on me which would be cool if I wasn't trying to BULK... Lol

Oh well eating more shouldn't be too hard, but I also have that fear of omg th3 fatz gainz...


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
07/07/12 03:44 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

That's fucking nuts Diezel! I mean god damn that's the most progress I've ever seen from someone I personally "know". Nice work.

HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
07/07/12 03:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

New PRs for me this week across the board, I guess the extra calories are working but I don't like th increased visible weight gain. I figure I can cut pretty easily so lll stay on this track for now and see where I end up with the lifting.

New numbers are:

Squat: 205x3x5
Deadlift: 240x1x5
Bench Press: 160x3x5
Shoulder Press: 110x3x5
Cleans: 105x5x3
Chin-ups: 14 - 10 - 7


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/07/12 04:02 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Dude you gotta make sacrifices to build muscle... Stop acting like a little cunt... ;-)

Good job on the progress... The increase in calories will be used up as your training intensity progresses...


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/27/12 08:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So i guess this was pretty anit climactic... where's the fatso that was keeping his starting weight a big secret... i'm curious if he kept the weight off... i'm willing to wager he didn't...

robbbby
(Post Master Supreme)
07/27/12 09:48 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel



How did you let yourself get to that? Didn't you think "wtf am I doing", when looking in the mirror long before getting to that point? I'm not trying to be a dick, just honestly curious how somebody who was fit can completely let go that much without making a u-turn much sooner.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
07/27/12 10:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

5 years of not training and eating whatever whenever just adds it very slowly... There were plenty of times where I thought damn son you getting fat... But the feeling passed cause I was complacent... Now I have a goal so it's easy again...

Weight training with intensity is hard... Unless there's a goal involved I had no desire to put myself through the hassle... Plus I was playing alot of golf, going to school again, and just being lazy...

I don't see myself falling back into slobdom in the future but hey you never know...


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
08/15/12 11:03 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I weighed in this morning at 185.25. Goal is 185.0 (for now). Did a lot of riding in the past week to get that to happen.

Funny to see how most of the enthusiasm (and the vast majority of the players) in this thread has vanished.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
08/16/12 12:54 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I'm still doing the work, just haven't been on this forum as much and haven't been doing the updates. My weights have been going up every so slowly, except for chest...fucking chest.

Sharkticon
(Post Master Supreme)
08/16/12 08:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Start / Finish



will get up measurements sometime this week then... took this pic quick after shower Saturday...


Goddam beast mode! That's inspiring.


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
08/22/12 10:04 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

...and there's my goal. 185.0 this morning.

I haven't weighed 185 since around 1997.


HX_Guy
(Post Master Supreme)
08/22/12 12:34 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Right on man! Congrats on reaching your goal!

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
08/22/12 02:17 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Thanks. \:\) It took forever, but it still feels good to be there. Maybe 180 will be next...

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
08/22/12 06:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

No better time than now to start posting in th fitness forum again. Keep us updated!!!

gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
09/05/12 11:22 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I think there's something to cheat weekends. I went to Cape Cod 2 weeks ago and ate like a pig/drank like a fish. Gained 3.5lbs over 4 days. Dropped 2 lbs of it during the following week.

Went to CT last Sunday (Labor Day weekend) and ate a ton again. This morning, I was at 184.5--my lightest yet.

Mind you, I'm being very responsible diet-wise during the week. Oddly enough, I haven't done any cardio since a long MTB ride on Saturday.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
09/12/12 03:37 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

some motivation if anyone is slowing down... buddy of mine just started to cut and get into working out and he's in the believe everything everyone tells me, takes all the sups he can buy. now into that coaching with half handed experience stage haha. Anyway

before



during (not going to say after anymore because he's working on it still)



I've been trying to inhale everything in my path since I'm not shooting for a set weight goal, going to dedicate myself to IF until I'm 10%. Starting at 198 pictured below.



and yes I took this to tease my buddy. Chest is finally starting to fill out, been doing bench 3 times a week. mixing a lot of stuff up, and also working on getting to tom hardy's level in the trap game!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
09/12/12 08:39 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Jesus--nice mass, Wayne. Looking mighty!

Your friend's chick is super cute but his piercings are questionable.


**DONOTDELETE**
()
09/14/12 11:08 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Lol 137 take a normal frontal body shot.


You're fat, that pose is retarded. Stop talking like a veteran because you've never done it.


137
(Post Master Supreme)
09/15/12 01:09 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
Lol 137 take a normal frontal body shot.


You're fat, that pose is retarded. Stop talking like a veteran because you've never done it.


can you go to your bathroom right now and take a picture of yourself? You're king apparently. none of your homo bullshit peak of fitness pictures from 6 years ago.

Yeah thought so!


**DONOTDELETE**
()
09/15/12 11:46 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Yes, I can.


I don't think I ever even posted a picture 6 years ago though. I've also posted recent pictures.


Here's a few weeks ago, drinking beer, no flex, no pump, no funny angles.








Do you really think that I've "lost it" or something? C'mon, you don't want to play this game.


**DONOTDELETE**
()
09/15/12 02:23 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

But, reading it again that was kind of dickish, you're doin good 137 keep at it.


I'll post some updated photos for those of little faith


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
09/15/12 03:50 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Were you guys having a pose-off or what? \:D

DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
09/15/12 08:41 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

If that's a recent pic you don't look like a picture of leanness brah...

And you were definitely posting pics 6 years ago... I got all my spank bank material date stamped... ;-)


**DONOTDELETE**
()
09/15/12 09:22 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

So what's the over/under on me being bigger and in better shape than idk, some of my pics from 2009?


That pool picture is like a month old fwiw


137
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 03:18 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

It's just you talk to everyone here like you're walking around at 4 percent bf dude. I know you're 6'4" and already have a genetic advantage of carrying more weight better than us normal folk. I've dropped weight plenty of times before. I've just never dedicated and applied myself to be on a joeyballs type of level. I got hydrodipped again today to measure progress after 6 months and to see where i'm syarting on my cut.

No overglorified threads claiming this or that in 6 moths. Just going to apply myself in the gym and the kitchen. I've gained 6 lbs of lean mass and 1-2lbs of fat mass. Bf is 20.6% up from 20.2% in feb when I finished my first cut. Due to be dipped again around the end of november.


**DONOTDELETE**
()
09/16/12 11:34 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I've never claimed to be 4% and my "genetic advantage" is diet and lifting weights for years



L


137
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 12:46 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
I've never claimed to be 4% and my "genetic advantage" is diet and lifting weights for years


With the amount of alcohol you consume (pretty sure at one point you were thinking rehab or some shit) and you're not a fat bastard? please tell me more about your strict eating habits.


robbbby
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 02:05 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

137 I can't believe your buddies ears closed up from that enormous stretch.

**DONOTDELETE**
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09/16/12 02:33 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137
 Originally Posted By: Artvandelay
I've never claimed to be 4% and my "genetic advantage" is diet and lifting weights for years


With the amount of alcohol you consume (pretty sure at one point you were thinking rehab or some shit) and you're not a fat bastard? please tell me more about your strict eating habits.
I eat clean and lift


Like I have for the past decade


FireInTheWhole
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 03:35 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Fuck the hating, Wayne. Keep up the good work!

**DONOTDELETE**
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09/16/12 05:14 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

^couldnt stop a nosebleed

137
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 05:47 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OB1
For what it's worth 137s pic is retarded, he still has its and I put little value in anything he says.


Yes well coming from the guy who has the lifts of a high school kid I find that the least bit offensive. How's that 6 pack you've been working on for a few years coming along?

 Originally Posted By: robbbby
137 I can't believe your buddies ears closed up from that enormous stretch.


Robby, he went to a dr. they cut all of the skin and sewed it into the baby cauliflour you see in the newer pic.

Thanks Fireinthehole, I'm not trying to brag about anything and again the picture was taken as a joke. And I don't have any kind of pump either that's static after waking up from a nap. Pump would've had veins everywhere! I'll hit my goal come february and I'll take plain jain no flex standing front back dick included pictures for OB1 and ART.

Just think it's funny when the residual bad asses of the board need to chop everyone who is "putting in work" down.

clean & jerked 90kg this morning
snatched 60kg missed 70at the top
deadlifted 160kg for doubles tapped out at 180kg


Sir Ironpool
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 06:13 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: 137

clean & jerked 90kg this morning
snatched 60kg missed 70at the top
deadlifted 160kg for doubles tapped out at 180kg


This is Amurrica Wayne, use English please!


137
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 08:54 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: OB1
Better than your 6yr diet that has kept you fat and sloppy, and likely can't run 1/2 a mile without a smashing cupcake in your face.


This is my favorite right here, someone who was fat so quick to put down other people now that there on the other side of the spectrum. LOL!!!

Your bench is good, I don't bench so I'm not close to that so I can't say shit to you there.

Squat is good, should be heavier but you obviously spend most of your time benching. And I can see Cory's ab's and I can see your "core" but abs, nah playa don't see those.

I'm not going to start talking about dicks because I'm not 5.

@Chris take the number and multiply it by 2.2 or simply put

I picked up and put a 20lb lighter OB1 over my head in the squat position and then stood up with him overhead. for the 60kg snatch, just missed his body weight.

and I deadlifted 352lbs touch and go for 2 reps for sets.

my backsquat triple is 300lbs and my box squat single is 356lbs yes I'm not 6 percent body fat like OB1 either.

as far as my fat ass running I walk, there is nothing scientifically proven that running is any better for you than walking. I can run a mile in a hair over 9 minutes last I tried fastest mile was 7:22sometime back in january.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/522376...lories-walking/

here is my walking workout post weight lifting today... I also go on hikes 2-3 times a week which you can also see in the history on the second link.
http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/upmc7aKpuQ4

http://www.endomondo.com/profile/5057071

I don't go sprouting off bullshit randomly like I'm some changed man or expert like you guys do. I just chime in every now and then when I deem it helpful only to be shot down by you fitness experts which is hilarious.

I'm done shitting on this thread, you have anything else you need to add you can pm me ob1 or art since you guys have nothing better to do than de-rail threads with bullshit.


DieZel
(Post Master Supreme)
09/16/12 09:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Fuck running and the running elitists that think it's the only way to burn fat... I dropped 50+ pounds and all my cardio was walking...

And I didn't make posts how my knees hurt or I had shin splints etc...


98V-TeC
(Post Master Supreme)
09/17/12 06:02 AM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

In for pose off photos!!

OB1...abs?


137
(Post Master Supreme)
10/17/12 06:49 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

bitch tits are starting to fill out. getting measured again in december so shooting for another cut. Maybe try zone out for two months, I want to keep my weight around 185-190 if possible while dropping fat percentage so protein is going to be pretty high.



DaBears
(Post Master Sr)
10/27/12 05:36 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

 Originally Posted By: DieZel
Start / Finish



will get up measurements sometime this week then... took this pic quick after shower Saturday...
Good God That's probably the best change i have ever witnessed in my life, at least from people that i "know" perse, and not some goofball commercial on television. Congrats man!


gamby
(Post Master Supreme)
01/01/13 09:31 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

I might as well put my 2012 summary up:

Before (1/5/12) 205lbs


After (12/12/12) 187lbs


Got down as low as 183 and I'm sitting around 190 now, post-holiday fuckfest. I'm going to bust balls and bring it back down to 185 ASAP now that the dinners and parties are over.

I biked 2307 miles, started running again and did a bunch of other stuff. Pretty stoked. \:\)


Big Tasty
(Post Master Supreme)
01/01/13 09:37 PM
Re: CSI's Biggest Loser Challenge 2012

Ya DieZel takes the prize for 2012 for sure. Congrats to all who saw improvement over the year and good luck for 2013.