meltdown
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(Post Master Supreme)
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04/30/08 12:18 AM
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335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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So, for the hell of it I drove a 335i hardtop coupe with paddle shifters the other day:
Good:
- No boost lag. Almost zero. Car pulls quickly and for what seems like forever. - It felt like a 12 second car. Actually threw me back into my seat. - Very nice interior. Leather felt very rich, and seat were very comfortable. - Handling was superb. Solid. Almost impossible to get the rear to kick out.
Bad:
- It's not an M. - Expensive (duh).
Wow. What a great car. They also had a white 135i with no options on the lot ($34k), that I was really tempted to buy. I was very, very impressed with the 335i.
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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they are sweet rides!
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Manok
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(Post Master Sr)
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04/30/08 11:42 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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i test drove one before and had the same opinion. Couldn't swallow the asking price though so I walked. Maybe a used one in a few more years.
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I'd go for a 135i everyday of the week. srsly.
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NoiZe
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(Post Master Sr)
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04/30/08 01:06 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I miss my 335i everyday.
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FCobra94
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(Post Master Supreme)
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04/30/08 01:32 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I miss my 335i everyday.
I thought that you couldn't wait to get rid of it?
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NoiZe
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(Post Master Sr)
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04/30/08 07:02 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I miss my 335i everyday. I thought that you couldn't wait to get rid of it?
It was a lease. I realized that was dumb and jumped by letting someone assume it. If I could have put down enough to make that payment on a 5 year loan, I'd still have that bish in my garage. Leasing is just pissing money down the drain.
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Allan R once made a convincing argument for leasing even though I usually dislike the process myself. I wouldn't ever do it, but he seemed to know how to make it work.
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Z24 lol
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(Post Master Supreme)
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04/30/08 07:15 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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My roommate bought a new G37S without even test driving a 335i. I told him he was stupid.
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theLoon
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(Post Master Sr)
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04/30/08 08:48 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Allan R once made a convincing argument for leasing even though I usually dislike the process myself. I wouldn't ever do it, but he seemed to know how to make it work. I think leasing can make financial sense for people that don't really care about cars, especially if you like trading up every couple of years. Me, I like to *own* my cars, particularly if I'm going to be doing any modding. I can't get emotionally attached to something I'm renting.
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/01/08 12:17 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I did a stainless exhaust on what a little while ago. 4 door 6 sp awd.
Very fun car to drive, but did not feel like a 108+ car at all to me. I know from a roll they give up about 1/2 a car to 1 car to an E46m. Pretty good if you ask me.
Ian
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I bet not after a full exhaust...
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NoiZe
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/02/08 09:31 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I bet not after a full exhaust...
Stock exhaust, RWD version, and tune as my only mod, my car would obliterate an E46 M3.
Stock vs. stock, the M3 is definitley quicker.
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Impulsive
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/02/08 04:56 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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The 335i and Xi are the best all arond car there is IMO.
I really want one in the next few years, but they are out of my league at my current pay scale. The 135 is barely cheaper unless you go base options.
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/02/08 06:05 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I bet not after a full exhaust... Stock exhaust, RWD version, and tune as my only mod, my car would obliterate an E46 M3. Stock vs. stock, the M3 is definitley quicker.
Sure with a tune on a turbo car compared to a stock M. I would hope so. They seem to get quick easily but seems to be a low ceiling until they figure out how to control the direct injection. I like the car... drives well, looks awesome. Definitely lost all the great driving involvement I used to love about E36 and better (earlier) BMW's.
That vishnu tune is complete crap.
Ian
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Adam G
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/03/08 10:12 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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That vishnu tune is complete crap.
Ian Do tell?
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/03/08 11:53 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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The car's a/f was all over the place, far too lean in the mid range. It also wouldn't start on first crank, had a bad enrichment hesitation, and poor TPS blend values making it hunt for idle. This is their "stage 2" or second gen or whatever BS that mail order tuners call it.
Ian
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jsmonet
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/03/08 12:43 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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can i replace the interior with one that doesn't make me hate life? it's in dire need of a de-german'ing on the inside because jesus christ that was awful.
stock they're def. not 12 second cars. modded? factory turbo. you do the math.
and yeah, meh all over the vishnu shit.
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Impulsive
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/03/08 06:41 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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The interior is decent ot me. A bit bland, but the materials are very nice.
Any commenhts on the Dinan chip/tune? A guy I work with has a dealer installed Dinan tune (and catback?)
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Adam G
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/04/08 09:12 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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The car's a/f was all over the place, far too lean in the mid range. It also wouldn't start on first crank, had a bad enrichment hesitation, and poor TPS blend values making it hunt for idle. This is their "stage 2" or second gen or whatever BS that mail order tuners call it.
Ian What about Dinan? I saw that they cover incidental damage in their warranty as well.
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/04/08 11:49 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I haven't dealt with one on a Dinan tune yet. I have another guy coming in but we are probably gonna just go autronic and get some proper tuning in it that way.
Ian
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Noob4Life
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/04/08 12:28 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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When will they be offering the 335xi wagon? Because that would be perfect.
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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When American taste and common sense stop sucking, I presume...
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danl
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/04/08 05:26 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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That vishnu tune is complete crap.
Ian
I just had to quote for truth (and in general everything that comes from that man/company).
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beerslurpy
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/04/08 11:26 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I got a decent fuel rail out of them like 6 years ago.
Shiv was well liked by the miata people but the rampant FM fanboyism drove him off. Typical scenario: "Fuel distribution is causing you to lose power. FM's cars are pig rich at the front cylinder, lean at teh back." Fanboys: "Bullshit, if it mattered FM would do it." FM: "We now sell fuel rails." Fanboys: "Fuel rails are essential!"
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NoiZe
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/05/08 07:49 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Sure with a tune on a turbo car compared to a stock M. I would hope so. They seem to get quick easily but seems to be a low ceiling until they figure out how to control the direct injection. I like the car... drives well, looks awesome. Definitely lost all the great driving involvement I used to love about E36 and better (earlier) BMW's.
That vishnu tune is complete crap.
Ian
They already have control over DI. I guess you mean bigger injectors?
Saying the Vishnu tune is crap sounds pretty uneducated. There are several different maps. The one I sold the car on gained 65whp and 135 torque on the dyno. With the open diff, it was useless in first and most of second. The fueling and timing, logged timing, and boost were bang on where I'd have liked them to be. It also pulled my friend's 110mph Evo IX by a couple of cars on the highway. Guess the tune wasn't crap after all.
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NoiZe
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/05/08 07:55 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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The car's a/f was all over the place, far too lean in the mid range. It also wouldn't start on first crank, had a bad enrichment hesitation, and poor TPS blend values making it hunt for idle. This is their "stage 2" or second gen or whatever BS that mail order tuners call it.
Ian
That's sounds more like a frakked fuel pump or bad install/harness to me. I have never seen a car not start on the first crank unless the high pressure pump was checking out. We've had a ton of 335i BMWs with Vishnu PROcedes on the dyno, all with the mail tune. Not one of them was lean. I've also never seen one with hesitation or idle issues.
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/05/08 11:42 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Well this one as well as another non xi model 6sp both have serious issues. ;-)
Ian
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Shiv was well liked by the miata people but the rampant FM fanboyism drove him off. Typical scenario: "Fuel distribution is causing you to lose power. FM's cars are pig rich at the front cylinder, lean at teh back." Fanboys: "Bullshit, if it mattered FM would do it." FM: "We now sell fuel rails." Fanboys: "Fuel rails are essential!"
That´s exactly what happened lol. He made a smart choice moving away from the miata crowd, you have a lot more to make on the turbo subby/evo/bmw camps.
Open rear diff and 400+ lb-ft? doesn´t sounds like fun on the track... an awesome allrounder though.
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NoiZe
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/06/08 02:20 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Well this one as well as another non xi model 6sp both have serious issues. ;-)
Ian
Including the dyno days we've done, I've seen 20+ 335s without those issues, and it seems you've seen 2 with them?
The one annoying issue I did see which they fixed was the high RPM limp mode/Mfg CEL. It is from boost pressure in manifold up at the rev band where the throttle plate starts closing. I'd say a really high percentage of people had that issue, like over 15%. All beyond 6500rpm.
Slow/mis-starts are the HP pump checking out, piggyback installation error, or map from wrong firmware loaded issue, period.
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/06/08 05:05 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Sure thing! Everyone around here must be wrong!
Vishnu FTW Iamuneducated.
Ian
Edit: I've been around the tuning scene for a long time... long enough to know of all of Shiv's "endeavors" lol fail.
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NoiZe
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/07/08 01:31 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Sure thing! Everyone around here must be wrong!
Vishnu FTW Iamuneducated.
Ian
Edit: I've been around the tuning scene for a long time... long enough to know of all of Shiv's "endeavors" lol fail.
Does everyone around here mean "you", aka the guy that still lives at home and uses his parents garage as his shop? EPIC FAIL.
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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According to street view, 2162 Arrow Hwy La Verne, CA 91750 is not a house.
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beerslurpy
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/07/08 05:00 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I don't get what people are arguing over in this thread.
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Noise likes vishnu, qcksl2 thinks they sell shitty products, danl hates the guy that runs vishnu and thinks that they sell shitty products.
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/07/08 09:05 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Sure thing! Everyone around here must be wrong!
Vishnu FTW Iamuneducated.
Ian
Edit: I've been around the tuning scene for a long time... long enough to know of all of Shiv's "endeavors" lol fail. Does everyone around here mean "you", aka the guy that still lives at home and uses his parents garage as his shop? EPIC FAIL.
Ouch, Looks like I hit a sensitive spot. ;-)
I didn't think to get personal, I'm allowed to disagree aren't I?
Ian
BTW: Home is 450 miles away, and at home I drive a tractor.
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DPG23
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/08/08 01:32 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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I just got a 335i in the shop today with 2000 miles on the clock and a nasty knocking sound from the engine. I'm 99% sure the guy had procede because all the covers for the DME were installed incorrectly. Anyway, pulled the oil pan and found the #5 rod bearing had spun. Did procede cause it??? I'll never know for sure....
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FCobra94
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(Post Master Supreme)
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05/08/08 06:47 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Yikes!
Is he still gonna get covered under warranty?
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qksl2
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(Post Master Sr)
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05/12/08 10:26 PM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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Noize you sure stirred up a buncha shit care to finish your personal attack?
Ian
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zhengjx
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(Jr Poster)
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07/27/17 03:04 AM
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Re: 335i testdrive. Are they 12 second cars? LOL.
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