OP have you considered checking prices for all of your options, they vary quite a bit. Probably start there or just get a Range Rover and call it.

It's a lease, they are all regular gas lol

What is your budget? You're all over the place. It's like shopping for a 911 or a Ferrari la Ferrari...

Does it need to be new, all these suv's depreciate like a rock. Like the cayenne no point buying new as a replacement is due so might as find a CPO. Everyone knows how I feel about Acura, when one spending this kind of money Acura just doesn't cut it. Still feels like a dressed up Honda.

If leasing NEVER put money down.

a) Lexus RX350 w/Luxury package MSRP $63500
I was looking at that but I don't really need a 3rd row seat.

a) Lexus RX350 w/Luxury package MSRP $63500

- moonroof kinda small... Pano glass roof only avail on RX450H + package

There's no 3rd row seat in RX


You can get the Pano roof with RX350.

Option Package
-F SPORT Series 3 or
-Executive Package

There's no 3rd row seat in RX

Do you have a moment to talk about Miata?

From a model x to a rav 4?

furball:



furball: how about a Rav 4? That's in our budget.

Pretty much



So... here's the update:

- My numbers weren't working out properly, and the 'RAV4' idea came about as I didn't take into account residual value, i.e. I was basically trying to FINANCE a car in 24-36 mths

- Test drove:
a) Porsche Macan -- sweet little car, out of the price range, WAYYYY too many buttons along the centre dash/transmission column
- Sat in a Cayenne, didn't bother driving. The HOLY SHIT handles are awesome ... WAY too many buttons along the transmission column

b) Lexus RX450h, RX350 - RX350 is a BOAT in the rear seats. Felt like we were sun tanning in greenhouse (rear seats reclined, huge pano roof.)

c) Lexus NX200t size was also good. Just... didn't feel that great.

d) Audi Q3 - she was turned off by the 'retro' dash and the dippy-looking low-res screen, as well as the engine noise, but size was ok.

e) Audi Q5 - only thing she didn't like, and I hated, was the rear floor hump. The saggy-diaper ass in the rear isn't as bad as the Q7's...

- Ended up with an Audi SQ5. Wait time 3-4 mths

- Ended up with an 'old school' salesman that we just walked into the dealership. Guy had this idea that I was the 'man', and that I was buying a car for the wife. Nope. I kept telling him you need to explain to my wife xx and yy ... He was nice, but was very 'Asian', always referring/deferring to me as if I was the final decision. Hilarity ensued for quite some time...

- At a number of points, sales guy looked at me and said 'look just tell me what you want and I'll do it...' I was like ... wtf... Anyway... it's f'ing over with, now the waiting, and then the little 'upgrades' when we get it... winter mats, winter tires/rims(?), etc.

- Wifey is an impulse buyer, and got impatient and said FUCK IT, I can't keep up with all these vehicles, even based on LOOKS. I'm buying THIS.

wat it do

- The trunk 'deck' ... OMFG. Most cheap cars have this cheap felt-covered liner, what does HR-V have? It's this bendy mesh. Reminds me of those ghetto suction-cup sunscreens for vehicles... It really feels cheap.

The Honda HR-V is an econo cross-over on a Honda Fit chasis. It is built in Mexico, what do you expect for $25,000 Furball???

SQ5 is nice for sure. Ballin'. You drive 1.7 EL into the ground SO gets a brand new SQ5 - I work backwards to you man lol.

Congrats on the new car

Didn't you get the memo?

Happy Wife, Happy Life?

Tell us how that worked out for you.

Honda HR-V update:

- Went for a test drive ... We were eyeing the LX AWD model ... I test drove it before, and it checked off everything needed for the MIL...
- WTF, the entire door panel is fabric? Likely to reduce road noise.
- Rear headroom is pretty bad, the rear headrests are also kinda weird.
- The trunk 'deck' ... OMFG. Most cheap cars have this cheap felt-covered liner, what does HR-V have? It's this bendy mesh. Reminds me of those ghetto suction-cup sunscreens for vehicles... It really feels cheap.


- The rear seats tumble like a gymnastics hooker in various positions, which was interesting, but I see no need for some of the positions; the one where you lift the seat upwards...Which gives another major problem...
- The rear seats are held up by a U-shaped piece of metal, off the floor of the vehicle It just feels cheap as fuck, and I'd be concerned about rust from water/salt from boots/ etc... i.e. boot heels, etc would likely brush against it....


- Front passenger seat's foot well is 'curved' upward, as it's such a small frame... Dunno........


- The EX model has this REALLY trippy right-side blind-spot camera thingie ... If you signal right (or you press a button), you'll see the view of the right side of your car... super super trippy. I like. The weird thing is, it's not available for the LEFT blind spot

From the outside, and from the front driver's seat, it's a good car...Else... I dunno...

Will have to re-test the Mazda CX-3, and test drive/review the Toyota CH-R, and Mazda 5...

Audi Q3 would be superb, but $$$ ... Mini Cooper (sedan and/or countryman) are likely not 'high enough', and $$$.

So... the hunt continues...

UPDATE 2: I remember another thing I also hated in the 2018 Audi Q5:
- the moonroof wind deflector is thin mesh. Wear 'n tear on that will be cray.

meanwhile at everyones fav car co....

http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/leaked-2018-bmw-x7-pictures-reveal-the-kidney-grills-co-1801230807





i like the futuristic interior though. yet they still manage to keep a similar theme design to the central lower dash buttons even in this...like that past 30 years.

i think robocop will have a hard-on for this.

I thought you got a Q5? Why are you still test driving?

I think he is balling out to get a new car for his MIL

LOL I think that's going to be the X7...arrgghhh

Still nicer than ANYTHING Acura puts out

It's sad when Lambo sells more Hurancans than the shitty RLX.

Show me a good looking acura from the past decade aside from the 3rd gen TL. That car still looks good till this day.

Re. A2B - holy shit you actually bought a FIAT?! jesus those are the biggest turds on the road.

the newest ones and ones to come out to 2020



lol

the newest ones and ones to come out to 2020



lol

Show me a good looking acura from the past decade aside from the 3rd gen TL. That car still looks good till this day.

That actually looks better than the x7.

+ aftermarket backup camera...
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if I can find an used one under 40kms.

Used under 40 km? So the car is brand new lulz
Even a demo have more than 40 km

The HR-V sells like hot cake at the dealer, Screamin' is happy.

I want to spend $30k TOPS all in....if I had my way, I would be ok without the L package but the wife wants...she gets.(She isn't asking for an Macan or anything silly so it isn't worth fighting)

Is the OEM navigation that important? I don't bother with nav since I know the place I am going (home->work->gym->home,etc.). Also if I am going unfamiliar places, I have Waze/Google Map on my phone or my good ol' Garmin GPS from 2011

Also Honda's leather is garbage, I am happy with their cloth seats. For German cars, I would go for their leather.

are you saying honda specifically or honda/acura leather? but i'll put my leather interior up against a 3 or 5 series anyday. was one huge reason i didnt go with the three series. (i'm also not talking about the leather that comes in 7 or M series cars)

Why can't you go for anything with android auto or apple car play? You can nav all day with those without needing to pay for nav? I think most new Honda infotainment has that now. I'm shocked at the HRV pricing though - that's completely bonkers.

I had the same discussion with my wife, completely dead set against driving a car bigger than the matrix. I was looking at highlander, 4runner, venza, etc. even though she was dead set against all of them.

Kept getting the "no, i am not driving it, no it's too big, etc"

In the end you have to do what's for the greater good for the family. If you think i am going to sit in a matrix/hrv/insert small CUV here with my fucking face in the dashboard because i can't properly install a rear facing car seat or constantly not having room in a car that's supposed to be "the" family car, fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk that.

I bought the venza after multiple low tone arguments, I had to deal with a couple of complaints regarding its size for the first 48 hours, now loves it and is used it. These are "fights" worth having, they will see the light eventually

I have a buddy who bought an X1, same thing, wife didn't want a bigger car so they "upgraded" to an X1 for size...achieved absolutely nothing compared to their prior car. Can't put a rear facing seat without the front seat being all the way to the front, the car is absolutely useless. He hates it, family outings are a fucking mess, now with a second on the way they have to yet again buy another car because this thing can't even hold a stroller/diaper bag adequately while adults aren't cramped af.

If you get an HRV, i promise you the decision will haunt you for as long as you own the car if you plan to use it as a family car with newborns. The CRV is a perfect compromise and considering this will be a family car the HRV is just a stupid decision all around.

Lastly, another thing i picked up from this forum (I think it was SW20) is that you have to consider the grandparents situation. I thought that was a nonissue, but it's actually a key factor. Since you aren't getting a van (which is the best vehicle for a family) then you want a car big enough that you can carry your kids and at least one MIL (which is your best asset for longer day trips). The venza doesn't have 3rd row seating, but has the widest in class rear seat, 2 baby seats and 1 adult can comfortably be seated, or 2 adults + 1 baby seat and the trunk is fairly large. Good luck doing that in HRV, the CRV would be adequate at least.

/rant

My wife is 5 feet tall so even though she can navigate a bigger vehicle, she can't get anything too tall because she won't be able to lug around a bb when the time comes.

Once we have a family, I will kiss the Lexus goodbye and go SUV or full out van.

Thanks for the heads up Hyper. Good to know.

Just realized for the same $ as an used HRV, I can just get into a previous gen RDX.....so much more car for the coin.

http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/a/Acura/RDX/Et...&orup=14_15_100

I am not a fan of the looks but its SOOOO Much more value. Need to do some research to see if there is anything wrong with the car aside from the looks.

The RDX isn't that bad....especially if I can get it at the same $ as an econo HRV.

X5 has a useless 3rd row. Look at highlander or the new atlas if one is needed.

One more to note, my buddy just got the Lincoln MKC, it's pretty nice and its in your price range. A bit small, but better than a HRV.

Get the CRV, can't go wrong.

If you get the HRV I will set it on fire for you.

I think RDX takes premium gas as well, which sucks.

Yup new CRV is a solid choice for those that don't care about drivertrain. Honda fucking neutered the shit out of it with that shit cvt.

The depreciation on those can't be good.....

isn't the new one turbo? It's supposed to be pretty quick @_@

First time I've seen "quick" used to describe a CR-V; with the exception of inserting the "if you drop it off a cliff" clause.

True enough with regards to depreciation. I just can't bring myself to go domestic so it was never really in consideration.

CRV is off the list. She doesn't like the rare end of the prior gen. I don't blame her....was just hoping she wouldn't notice. Would have been nice to put in regular gas.

RDX still fits the bill.....what I save in upfront cost I will pay in gas. We don't drive a lot so it isn't a huge deal. At the end of the day, she is driving it so I can just point her to the right direction.

Hope the RDX won't be a quick no...for the price used, there doesn't seem to be better value. This car buying experience is kinda like OT saying a girl is a no because elbows too pointy.

I really like the exhaust tones from the FX....can show her the next time we drive by one. A black one would look AOK!

you bitch about $6000 difference and paying premium gas, you can't afford any luxury SUV that requires premium gas and its maintenance

From a Q5 to a Rogue

Dude, we picked up a 2018 Audi Q5 Technik *AND* a 2017(?) Nissan Qashqai AWD.

Dude, we picked up a 2018 Audi Q5 Technik *AND* a 2017(?) Nissan Qashqai AWD.

I guess it's marginally better than a baby blue CHR.

rogue...oh god no, please no.

Because it's not a Honda? Please enlighten everyone why a Rogue is a no?

Wasn't your budget 30k all in before trades? If your budget is actually 40k+ then you have way better options than a turd of an RDX.

You should get a Rogue

I keep getting logged off. Will go for the 2016 RDX Elite. Aiming for $30k all in after trading in the Fiat.

sick. good choice. if you'd like i think i have a $1200 off coupon at maple acura, maybe it'll be transferable

2018 RDX totally not in the cards $$ wise.

The cheapest daily rental X1 is at the very upper end of what we want to spend. I can't say I am a fan of automatic BMW tranny. Know a couple people who had tranny issues with BMW and we plan to keep it a while so I want to avoid that.

As for the $1200 coupon, when I am ready to roll, I'll PM you Jason, we can work something out.

. who in their right mind would say "sure, rip me off and charge me a bunch more money, I'm blind anyways"

Thoughts?

So the Qashqai has settled into the fleet, and the winter tires are on ... Now we get the TPMS warning light, as there are no sensors in the rims Thankfully the S/O's ok with it -- I'm more pissed about it than anything.

Next up is getting a solution for the H7 projector low-beams ... the light output is horrendous. Seeing if I can find an LED and/or HID solution for it -- trying not to drill through the dust cap. Thoughts?

HID will eventually yellow the housings. A halogen housing isn't built for the heat HID produce. Actually, even Hatorade's p car has messed up headlight housings from the HID's being on all the time. So LED would be the safer solution if you care about that sort of thing.

The "GTR Gen 3" LED's are rated the brightest, and are most suited for projectors as they have designed it so that the diodes reflect light *as close to 360 degrees as possible*, and the diodes are in the same position as the filaments on the halogen bulb. So same beam pattern, more light. 199usd doe. These use Philips LED's and they are BOMB. I ran Philips for my fogs and they were insane.

congrats man and nice choice - the car looks good not sure what drugs hator is on. warranty on these is quite low too so hopefully she runs well for you. winters aren't even a must buuuuut suggested.

and no, i can't get parts :P

congrats man and nice choice - the car looks good not sure what drugs hator is on. warranty on these is quite low too so hopefully she runs well for you. winters aren't even a must buuuuut suggested.

and no, i can't get parts :P

HIDs generate MORE HEAT? This is news to me...

I always thought 55W halogens > ??W LEDs > 35W HIDs in terms of heat inside the lamp???

The GTR Gen 3 only has 1 really biased-looking video review that I've found, else I haven't found much online ... I've been eyeing those forever, but the heat output scares me ... they're just under 100 degrees C for operating temp, with no active fan, just passive heatsink. (i.e. for the Qashqai, the 'ass' of the bulb is where the passive heatsink is, which is outside the projector, but inside the headlamp.)

I was eyeing also the Morimoto LED bulbs ....