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I am having a hard time choosing between these 4 models. Budget is 20k, she wants 4wd, Bluetooth, and preferably rear DVDs for those long drives Fuel mileage is not a huge concern, but they all get 20-25 mpg hwy anyway 2010 Jeep Commander http://www.autotrader.ca/result/addetail...CFQGRaQod778A3g 2012 Mazda Cx9 http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mazda/CX-9/Ha...O&orup=38_15_58 2011 MKT non ecoboost http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Lincoln/MKT/BRAMPTON/Ontario/19_10082512_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=9_15_13 2013 MKT Ecoboost, little questionable history http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Lincoln/MKT/U...PO&orup=7_15_13 Kinda leaning towards the Lincoln or the Jeep. The Mazda just looks so boring |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Why no highlander? In that price range they are pretty old or have high KM Would have liked a 4runner 2011-2012 but not even close to 20k |
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The wife (and I) were really happy with the CRV. Super reliable, lots of trunk space, drove like a car. The 4 cyl was a slightly under powered but was perfect for my wife. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Santa Fe? Na no koren stuff Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO The wife (and I) were really happy with the CRV. Super reliable, lots of trunk space, drove like a car. The 4 cyl was a slightly under powered but was perfect for my wife. A bit too small for us |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business Why no highlander? Came to say the samething http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-...gationFlag=true |
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Originally Posted By: Wildout Originally Posted By: Risky Business Why no highlander? Came to say the samething http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-...gationFlag=true I don't see very many in that price range for 2011. Most are 2009 or lower |
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Out of those 4, the Cx9. Outside of that, Honda 4 lyfe. |
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Was the outback too small? |
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Ya can't get anyone between the two kids seats. Well they fit but not comfy at all. Even the dog can't find a place to sit back there. He is big though, German Shepard x with a golden retriever. We do a fair bit of driving for camping and to visit family and more room will be nice The extra two seats would be so great. So many time family has some to visit and we end up taking two cars. I don't need a lecture about fitting everything into what we have now, blah blah. I got a deal on the Subaru when we bought to so if I get 10 out of it if we trade it in with tax savings I would be happy And I would rather just trade it in than try to sell privately. |
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No I agree with you it's a little cramped and not very tall. I love mine regardless and will keep it untill we have 2 and need the extra space |
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Buy an AWD Sienna. Moves your extra family and dogs in comfort. Who cares what it looks like. |
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Originally Posted By: loudsubz No I agree with you it's a little cramped and not very tall. I love mine regardless and will keep it untill we have 2 and need the extra space The height hurts. If it wasn't so damn slow I would drive it lol. Actually forget slow. With all the hills around here the 4cyl is just too small a motor for the size of the car and fuel mileage nose dives |
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Originally Posted By: SW20_MR2 Buy an AWD Sienna. Moves your extra family and dogs in comfort. Who cares what it looks like. Wife doesnt wanna give in and get a minivan haha |
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I know you are not going to get the Venza, but when I was doing my research the car won on so many different levels and this is one of them (space). It's a very wide vehicle and I always wanted to be able to carry two car seats and my MIL if I had to...and yes you can. This is from Toyota nation (also the v6 hauls ass) Quote: We bought the Venza specifically because it was the widest 4 cylinder on the market. We have three car seats in the rear. Two of them are Sunshine Radians (for a one and three year old), and the other is a Graco booster (for a six year old) with back attached. They fit with more than enough room between the car seat and the booster for the oldest to do up his own seat belt. If in doubt get three Sunshine Radians, they are the narrowest car seats you can get. They are pricey, but very well built. We have wider car seats in our van. You could fit them in the Venza, but it is much more difficult. If you can't get them in the Venza then you are going to be getting a minivan or a three row SUV. There is nothing with more hip room measurement then the Venza. Good luck. Also this: Quote: yes, and 2 child seats will fit on the 60% rear seat, allowing you to drop down the 40% rear seat to make more room to carry a bulky object in the back cargo area It's such a great car, it's not as big of a barge as an SUV has utility, you don't have to pay 3rd row SUV premium, look great, the AWD system is on par if not better than Subaru's (watch the test comparisons yourself - not that it matters since we are splitting hairs, but worth noting). |
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Highlander - on your driveway tonight gone in the morning!!! Extremely high theft rate. Shipped overseas in a day. That mkt looks like a funeral hurse .... why not check out its equivalent the explorer? Tons to pick from... colour/options/ km/ price. Found one : 2011 Ford Explorer Limited power fold rear seats and DVD. Headrests. http://m.autotrader.ca/a/5_29518323 |
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Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R used Pilot's too much still huh? They are so ugly haha, even inside is so bad Originally Posted By: The Postman MDX? Thought about that too, fuel mileage on 09s and down is terrible, 10 and up seems better, I think I need to have another look Originally Posted By: Risky Business I know you are not going to get the Venza, but when I was doing my research the car won on so many different levels and this is one of them (space). It's a very wide vehicle and I always wanted to be able to carry two car seats and my MIL if I had to...and yes you can. This is from Toyota nation (also the v6 hauls ass) Quote: We bought the Venza specifically because it was the widest 4 cylinder on the market. We have three car seats in the rear. Two of them are Sunshine Radians (for a one and three year old), and the other is a Graco booster (for a six year old) with back attached. They fit with more than enough room between the car seat and the booster for the oldest to do up his own seat belt. If in doubt get three Sunshine Radians, they are the narrowest car seats you can get. They are pricey, but very well built. We have wider car seats in our van. You could fit them in the Venza, but it is much more difficult. If you can't get them in the Venza then you are going to be getting a minivan or a three row SUV. There is nothing with more hip room measurement then the Venza. Good luck. Also this: Quote: yes, and 2 child seats will fit on the 60% rear seat, allowing you to drop down the 40% rear seat to make more room to carry a bulky object in the back cargo area It's such a great car, it's not as big of a barge as an SUV has utility, you don't have to pay 3rd row SUV premium, look great, the AWD system is on par if not better than Subaru's (watch the test comparisons yourself - not that it matters since we are splitting hairs, but worth noting). Actually before we got the Subaru the Venza was going to be the car we bought, but at that time my wife wanted another manual trans, so that got nixed. It's still a tempting choice, but I think we could make more use of something with more seats |
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Originally Posted By: CIVIC dude Highlander - on your driveway tonight gone in the morning!!! Extremely high theft rate. Shipped overseas in a day. That mkt looks like a funeral hurse .... why not check out its equivalent the explorer? Tons to pick from... colour/options/ km/ price. Found one : 2011 Ford Explorer Limited power fold rear seats and DVD. Headrests. http://m.autotrader.ca/a/5_29518323 151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol The flex is kinda tempting http://bestbuyauto.carpages.ca/used/2303097/Scarborough/2010-Ford-Flex |
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hmmmmm http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Acura/MDX/Tor...O&orup=7_15_146 |
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Originally Posted By: Wildout Originally Posted By: Risky Business Why no highlander? Came to say the samething http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-...gationFlag=true First choice Originally Posted By: zc911 Second choice Originally Posted By: zc911 Originally Posted By: CIVIC dude Highlander - on your driveway tonight gone in the morning!!! Extremely high theft rate. Shipped overseas in a day. That mkt looks like a funeral hurse .... why not check out its equivalent the explorer? Tons to pick from... colour/options/ km/ price. Found one : 2011 Ford Explorer Limited power fold rear seats and DVD. Headrests. http://m.autotrader.ca/a/5_29518323 151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol The flex is kinda tempting http://bestbuyauto.carpages.ca/used/2303097/Scarborough/2010-Ford-Flex Third |
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Originally Posted By: porschetr Whatever you get, stay away from Chrysler/Jeep. everyone says that but my 2007 grand cheroke has been great. I've put almost 100,000km on it since I bought it, other than maintance stuff (tires, brakes), the only stupid thing that died was the turn signal stalk. |
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Looks like you've decided to keep that for yourself? Nothing crazy for you coming down the way? A friend has the CX-9, likes it for what it is but wouldn't do it again if it wasn't for wanting the rear row which has been used 5x in 2 years. |
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ya wife doesn't like driving it very much. And I like it and I need it to tow so it's not going anywhere I added a font bumper to it on the weekend haha. Next up 4 inch superlift, maybe lol |
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Fair enough, you seem to like it or at least be able to live with it without complaint. What was the motivation behind the bumper? You seem to be in the fairly common situation of wanting an SUV that is as useful as a minivan. It's not easy, I tell the wife we'll only try for 1 kid. Honestly the 4Runner has been great, you'd never know it's got the miles it has, I'd buy it again for simple wagon type transportation. I looked at those MDX's but didn't want to spend the money and I'm glad I didn't. |
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#1 I just like it, #2, added weight over the front end. When towing the front end was really light. It's a short wheel base, so some added weight sticking way out front should help, it's 70kg. |
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Originally Posted By: zc911 Originally Posted By: loudsubz No I agree with you it's a little cramped and not very tall. I love mine regardless and will keep it untill we have 2 and need the extra space The height hurts. If it wasn't so damn slow I would drive it lol. Actually forget slow. With all the hills around here the 4cyl is just too small a motor for the size of the car and fuel mileage nose dives Too bad it wasn't the 3.6, it's night and day, gobs of torque |
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Originally Posted By: porschetr Whatever you get, stay away from Chrysler/Jeep. Agree! My dad is looking to unload his 2012 Durango r/t because it's a money pit Ac lines went (common issue, super expensive to fix, same with caravan) Hose clamp just blew and caused engine overheat and starter fried Had issue with brake master cylinder or something related Other small issues that added up He's looking into getting a ridgeline |
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Originally Posted By: loudsubz Originally Posted By: zc911 Originally Posted By: loudsubz No I agree with you it's a little cramped and not very tall. I love mine regardless and will keep it untill we have 2 and need the extra space The height hurts. If it wasn't so damn slow I would drive it lol. Actually forget slow. With all the hills around here the 4cyl is just too small a motor for the size of the car and fuel mileage nose dives Too bad it wasn't the 3.6, it's night and day, gobs of torque It's too bad they never offered a manual for that motor. |
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Originally Posted By: loudsubz Originally Posted By: porschetr Whatever you get, stay away from Chrysler/Jeep. Agree! My dad is looking to unload his 2012 Durango r/t because it's a money pit Ac lines went (common issue, super expensive to fix, same with caravan) Hose clamp just blew and caused engine overheat and starter fried Had issue with brake master cylinder or something related Other small issues that added up He's looking into getting a ridgeline OUCH! I did have a rental 2014 Jeep grand Cherokee and I did not like it, that stupid 8 spd trans was annoying. |
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http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Ford/Flex/Tho...O&orup=14_15_48 They do 0-60 in 6s, and run in the low 14s in 1/4 mile A reflash gets you into the 13s. |
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Originally Posted By: zc911 151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol 151km since it has the rear entertainment you want. Tons more out there with less km without that feature. Too be honest I'd save the money and use an iPad. Way more bang for your buck. 5-6 year old cars with those screens are old school and waste of extra money to buy the vehicle with it. |
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ehhh I dunno, the one in my 07 works just fine, and they don't have anything in their hands to fling at their sibling lol Going to go check out the flex tonight http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Ford/Flex/Tho...O&orup=14_15_48 |
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Originally Posted By: CIVIC dude Originally Posted By: zc911 151k though. It's the same chassis as the Lincoln but they are more expensive, I guess because the MKT looks are subjective lol 151km since it has the rear entertainment you want. Tons more out there with less km without that feature. Too be honest I'd save the money and use an iPad. Way more bang for your buck. 5-6 year old cars with those screens are old school and waste of extra money to buy the vehicle with it. Ya but then price goes way up with low k |
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Originally Posted By: zc911 I did have a rental 2014 Jeep grand Cherokee and I did not like it, that stupid 8 spd trans was annoying. |
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Originally Posted By: SW20_MR2 Buy an AWD Sienna. Moves your extra family and dogs in comfort. Who cares what it looks like. +1 I don't understand a lot of people are not considering the minivan. Is it because stereotype of driving a minivan? If I have a family with kids, I am picking minivan over any SUV period Also fuck Mazda until they fix their rust issue. I still see a lot of 4-5 years old Mazda (all models) starting to rust. It's bad. The Lincoln MKT is ugly af |
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2012 GMC Arcadia or Chevrolet Traverse? http://www.autotrader.ca/a/GMC/Acadia/Ha...O&orup=76_15_76 I drove one as a rental in Boston with the 3rd row seats, engine is smooth and not bad on fuel for the size of vehicle. |
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haha that would be awesome Little tempted by Mercedes the R320/R350 diesel |
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Why just a little tempted? Go drive one, I'm sure the resale has plummeted already. |
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German electronics ! A BMW X5 diesel is in price range too but scared of BMW failures lol |
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Isn't the Jeep equipped with German running gear? Have I got my generations wrong? |
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http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Mercedes-Benz...O&orup=28_15_32 this is the one i was looking at You can get an ECU flash to disable the 3 points of failure on the motor. the EGR, the swirl valve, and the add blue crap. I have the ECU flash on the jeep that disabled the EGR and the swirl valve, and i went one step further and deleted the DPF, so i can run real oil, not that low ash crap. |
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I'd get the flex over benz R class...it's also a van with a fancy badge. |
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no thanks My wife wants the R class, doh. Acutally called and said can we go check out the white one, I really like it |
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Yup, you just bought the R class basically. congrats |
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Note the missing wheel bolt front right, kinda ghetto (sign of maintenance style?), and it looks like they've had it 9 months. |
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Yup thanks noticed that, it's been up since it was 32deg out lol Kinda odd |
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Are swirl flaps that big of a diesel in the Mercedes engines? I've got them in mine, some guys delete them some guys don't. |
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Yup, they fail, good explanation here https://pawlikautomotive.com/2008-jeep-grand-cherokee-diesel-swirl-valve-motor/ 50 cent fix https://conflictedracer.wordpress.com/20...d-resistor-mod/ Or ECU flash does away with it and defaults them open all the time. |
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Originally Posted By: LNXGUY Are swirl flaps that big of a diesel in the Mercedes engines? I've got them in mine, some guys delete them some guys don't. I'm 99.9% positive that yours doesn't have swirl flaps. The EU motors had them. |
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Originally Posted By: zc911 no thanks My wife wants the R class, doh. Acutally called and said can we go check out the white one, I really like it Before you buy, plug into a diagnostics machine and see how many codes it throws. Rs depreciate fast for a reason. |