| 4age |
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| 01/17/17 09:22 AM |
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Anyone have to work/travel to the states often? TN Visa?
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Learn me on TN visa - anyone.
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
| Choco 'Nuck |
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| 01/17/17 09:25 AM |
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What do you do again?
| Screamin Type ARGH! |
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| 01/17/17 09:26 AM |
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My dad has needed a TN visa for many years, I believe they issue it with sufficient backup from the US based employer for 1yr at a time (best you check the US GOV website of course) and then you renew as needed. I'm surprised you would need a TN visa just to 'work' for say a few days or a week or something down there, but i guess it covers all?
https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/employment/nafta.html
http://canadiansinusa.com/Working-in-the-US/tn-visa.html
When we head down to the US we always just say "attending meetings" and they let us right through (99% of the time it is the truth) because going for meetings are fine, as soon as they hear you're going to "work" in the USA they deny you. See if your company lets you get away with just saying something like that, then no need for the whole visa deal.
| 4age |
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| 01/17/17 09:32 AM |
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Thanks Screamin - that's good info.
I have attempted the "meetings" thing many times and it has been fine for 6 years
But it takes just 1 time to be flagged - and I have been flagged electronically. Now I am scrutinized at the border and always go through additional security each time. I am always screwed at this point.@ Choco I am a consultant........who happens to run a team consisting of folks in canada, us and uk. I have no problems with flying to anywhere in europe. but usa is a pita.
| Screamin Type ARGH! |
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| 01/17/17 09:35 AM |
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Ahhh yeah. Crap...that's annoying.
The next option then is to get a letter from your company (the US side) to show at the border each time you cross stating your business there (since the "meetings" thing won't fly lol). Have someone from their compliance dept. sign it with their direct contact info in case the border agents are being dicks and actually want to call them.
We've had similar issues for US workers from our plants wanting to come up here to "work". So we're trying the letter thing for them. We'll see how it goes.
Mexico guys won't even bother as it's like 3-4 weeks for a visa and our end doesn't want to even bother with a letter for them lol.
| Choco 'Nuck |
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| 01/17/17 10:38 AM |
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TN1 is issued per year, and is not guaranteed upon renewal time. Best bet is H1B if you are going to be doing this long term
| 4age |
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| 01/17/17 10:52 AM |
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Sick thanks Choco. I will look at H1B.
Annually issued would not work for me.
| SW20_MR2 |
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| 01/17/17 05:32 PM |
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Re: Anyone have to work/travel to the states often? TN Visa?
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I go 5 or 6 times a year and always say I'm going for meetings or a conference. No problems so far.
| 87ZCSi |
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| 01/17/17 06:23 PM |
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Look up the guidelines of a B1 visa.
| Just A Troll |
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| 01/17/17 06:58 PM |
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Originally Posted By: 4age
Learn me on TN visa - anyone.
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
And you're telling this to the border agents?
Just say: "Conference" or "taking training" or "attending a sales meeting" etc.
I go on a regular basis and never get turned back.
Unless you're staying for many months, the little white lie will get you in everytime.
| Risky Business |
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| 01/18/17 08:06 AM |
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Re: Anyone have to work/travel to the states often? TN Visa?
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Originally Posted By: 4age
Learn me on TN visa - anyone.
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
It's pretty simple to get, why is this a question
Your company can do it, it's like a 30 minute ordeal.
| Risky Business |
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| 01/18/17 08:07 AM |
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Re: Anyone have to work/travel to the states often? TN Visa?
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Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
Originally Posted By: 4age
Learn me on TN visa - anyone.
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
And you're telling this to the border agents?
Just say: "Conference" or "taking training" or "attending a sales meeting" etc.
I go on a regular basis and never get turned back.
Unless you're staying for many months, the little white lie will get you in everytime.
Did you miss the part where he is flagged?
Doesn't matter what he says, the US agents are heros by nature so good luck with that once you are flagged.
| 4age |
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| 01/18/17 09:11 AM |
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Originally Posted By: SW20_MR2
I go 5 or 6 times a year and always say I'm going for meetings or a conference. No problems so far.
Problem has been I go more than 20x a year.
Was fine for 6 years, then got flagged once. Screwed up ever since.
Even if It's for internal/training/sales meeting etc, no bueno.
Can't do it. I have direct reports in the US and I cannot be there in person even if it's pure meetings, as by nature, I will potentially manage folks...which = "working" in the US. Which is apparently bad and illegal and horrific.
| Risky Business |
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| 01/18/17 09:26 AM |
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You weren't setup right by your employer to begin with, that's the real issue.
20x year, I am surprised that even lasted.
Rule of thumb is if it's more than once a month you will have issues. I went from once a month to once every 2 months have not been flagged (yet).
| 4age |
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| 01/18/17 09:26 AM |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Originally Posted By: 4age
Learn me on TN visa - anyone.
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
It's pretty simple to get, why is this a question
Your company can do it, it's like a 30 minute ordeal. Yeah I have HR looking into if this is even the appropriate one to get.
I'll find out on that end as well. I just don't want to get all docs together, waste a few hours and drive to the boarder to apply, only to find out it not even applicable or whatever.
| Just A Troll |
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| 01/18/17 02:19 PM |
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Re: Anyone have to work/travel to the states often? TN Visa?
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business
Originally Posted By: Just A Troll
Originally Posted By: 4age
Learn me on TN visa - anyone.
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
Not even sure if this is what I need, but I've been flagged and turned around at the border twice now.
The first time was because I cannot perform client work in the US without a visa. OK no problem. The next time I was turned around despite going in for internal only purposes - and this is because I have direct reports in the US. Apparently, I cannot go to the states on biz even for internal purposes because I will be managing folks by nature of my role. WTF. Pls halp.
Any consultant types up in here who encounter this and have found ways to make it work?
And you're telling this to the border agents?
Just say: "Conference" or "taking training" or "attending a sales meeting" etc.
I go on a regular basis and never get turned back.
Unless you're staying for many months, the little white lie will get you in everytime.
Did you miss the part where he is flagged?
Doesn't matter what he says, the US agents are heros by nature so good luck with that once you are flagged.
Oh yeah. Flagged. Ooops too late!