#7969334 - 11/18/14 08:04 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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stickaz_old
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And then
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#7969418 - 11/18/14 09:23 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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65_289
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What's your cycle like again?
[edit] Think I found it. 500mg test for 8 weeks, added Deca and upped test to 750 in week 9?
Edited by 65_289_doe (11/18/14 09:38 PM)
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#7970694 - 11/19/14 02:45 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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DieZel
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Good feedback. I really don't have much urge to play in the game of trying this, balancing that, injections or finding some sort of stack etc.
I know Joey had mentioned an oral that seemed like a no compromise option. If that was truly the case, that would be something I'd consider. Pop a pill, workout, eat right and see some gains.
When I was around 230, I felt like a beefcake - thick/fat, but I hit the same numbers you are. I'd like to see similar/better numbers 30 pounds lighter myself.
it's truly very simple and you can make quality long term gains on 2 injections a week for a long time... I personally would not fuck with orals until later in the game...
some people don't even need to manage their estrogen on 500mg test, but then others certainly will have to... i seem to be in the group that hasn't had an issue... i started adding my AI just ton control water bloat (only estrogenic side effect i've seen)... but i'm vain and don't like to be too fat... lol
adding Deca to my stack has given me joint benefits, so the added strength has not been an issue for me to date... i have yet to use any drying agents which is what in turn may cause joint problems...
after my cruise i plan to add EQ and then later add the almighty tren, but i only add one thing at a time so i know if i get negative sides I can narrow it down much easier quicker vs having to decide between 2 compounds...
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#7970709 - 11/19/14 02:50 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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Sir Ironpool
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I'm just having trouble understanding the risk vs reward here. Putting your health at risk to be able to say you lifted a certain number?
Not hating....just something I'll never understand. There's very little health risk unless you go full retard... I decided to give it a try cause I just wanted more size to compete, it wasn't about hitting a number for me... That was just a bonus...
Gotcha...didn't realize you were competing. Good luck, but please...stay safe! 
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#7970873 - 11/19/14 04:12 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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65_289
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I guess it could be simple, but I don't even know all the terms being thrown around and what they do. Let alone correct dosage, how to be safe, how to monitor health and how to spot bad side effects.
Then, I'd have to find needles and a dealer for this and I'm already not comfortable. I'm not competing and never knew anyone who did, so I don't really have a circle of connected people.
I guess I'm a pussy as I don't really care to try this. If it was dead simple like order x and y on the web, then take 2/day or something, sure.
All of that information can be learned by spending time on reputable (e.g. not bodybuilding.com) forums. Syringes and needles are legal to purchase and can be bought in bulk online. Steroids can be bought online, but obviously you run the risk of seizure, arrest, or bunk gear. Sample beginner cycles are also posted on those websites.
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#7970888 - 11/19/14 04:26 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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latank
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eh probably not the smartest thing to post here.
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#7970980 - 11/19/14 05:50 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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Ampsman in Extremis
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I'm just having trouble understanding the risk vs reward here. Putting your health at risk to be able to say you lifted a certain number?
Not hating....just something I'll never understand. There's very little health risk unless you go full retard... I decided to give it a try cause I just wanted more size to compete, it wasn't about hitting a number for me... That was just a bonus... Gotcha...didn't realize you were competing. Good luck, but please...stay safe!
Lets do it dude! Good excuse to inject stuff in each others butts. 
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#7970989 - 11/19/14 05:55 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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gamby
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While obviously sprinters were/are notorious for doping, are distance runners known for it as well (like cyclists are)?
Back in the day (like 20-25 years ago), I remember reading about all of the ligament issues as a side effect. While I'm assuming more is known about doping more "safely", that's a scary side effect for a runner.
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#7971256 - 11/19/14 09:13 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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robbbby
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How much has it cost you the past 12 weeks? cost was about $180 over the 12 weeks... includes gear, AI, pins...
Obviously it depends on what you are taking, but I always thought in general that it cost much more than that.
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#7971319 - 11/19/14 09:49 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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Steroids can be bought online, but obviously you run the risk of seizure, arrest, or bunk gear. Sample beginner cycles are also posted on those websites.
I can't even get beer shipped here, so seizure, arrest and bad drugs. Seems high risk to me.
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#7979445 - 11/24/14 05:17 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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HondaBilly
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I guess it could be simple, but I don't even know all the terms being thrown around and what they do. Let alone correct dosage, how to be safe, how to monitor health and how to spot bad side effects.
Then, I'd have to find needles and a dealer for this and I'm already not comfortable. I'm not competing and never knew anyone who did, so I don't really have a circle of connected people.
I guess I'm a pussy as I don't really care to try this. If it was dead simple like order x and y on the web, then take 2/day or something, sure.
Needles are easy. You can get them at any pharmacy. My wife sold them all the time to the steroid crew when she worked community. You just need to know what guage you want and it's the same as if you were buying for your beetus.
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#7981099 - 11/25/14 01:25 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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Joeyballs
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25g for pinning
23g for drawing
Yeah, though, some product takes forever to push through a 25g pin. So you have to step it up and inject with a 23g. feelsgoodman
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#7981159 - 11/25/14 02:07 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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Euphoricuck
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I guess it could be simple, but I don't even know all the terms being thrown around and what they do. Let alone correct dosage, how to be safe, how to monitor health and how to spot bad side effects.
Then, I'd have to find needles and a dealer for this and I'm already not comfortable. I'm not competing and never knew anyone who did, so I don't really have a circle of connected people.
I guess I'm a pussy as I don't really care to try this. If it was dead simple like order x and y on the web, then take 2/day or something, sure.
Its just an easy excuse to say "I dont know", which is fine. You have no interest in it, so its easy to say that and to avoid the whole thing. In reality a few nights(if even that) of reading up on the subject you would have a pretty good idea of whats going on.
Very easy to source locally too. Its literally everywhere. Granted you do work out at home, but Im sure your wife knows a few people who could easily hook it up.
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#7981173 - 11/25/14 02:15 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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stickaz_old
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is "reed up gud on it bruh " from various swole users apparently performing their own personal uncontrolled clinical trial(s) equivalent to peer reviewed studies with randomized controlled trials demonstrating safety/efficacy? Where is the data proving the safety?
I believe the OP knows far more than I do on this topic, so am curious. [I bailed out of chem as an undergrad]
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#7981315 - 11/25/14 03:38 PM
Re: All I can say about drugs...
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Euphoricuck
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[I bailed out of chem as an undergrad]
If you really wanted to do it, the information is out there and easily understood. You dont need a PHD in chem or physiology to figure this out.
You arent synthesizing this shit in your basement.
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