#6096491 - 01/28/12 05:32 PM
Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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Jrobski
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I have one but I've heard two different camps on this. Mind you, I haven't lifted heavy since the stone ages. When I was lifting regularly, I would go without for normal work out days but I would use one for squats and deads on PR or Max days.
What does CSi think?
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#6096628 - 01/28/12 07:18 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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wolfsburg2
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I think belts are a useful tool for heavy lifting.
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#6096693 - 01/28/12 08:10 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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137
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I think belts are a useful tool for heavy lifting.
and straps on the squats? lol. (j/k dude)
I wear one every now and again but it's not really to help me exert more force in my midsection like they're intended to do. It just helps me check my back on certain things like presses and squats.
Edited by 137 (01/28/12 08:10 PM)
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#6096845 - 01/28/12 09:41 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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Silock
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This. You need to learn to use the one nature gave you first.
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#6096982 - 01/28/12 11:11 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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wolfsburg2
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#6097167 - 01/29/12 01:39 AM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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137
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Never used one. Deaded 500 without one. Don't see the point at all.
How does wrapping a fat belt help your workout?
I think it's a tool/crutch some people rely on them too much, I like to try a heavy lift with and without to see if it makes any difference or if it's just some mental stigmata that was programed in my brain from high school football.
374lb deadlift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNBcGL0q4Pw
419 deadlift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDgPSTo7qHU
When my stomach was a lot bigger I could totally feel the difference the belt made when lifting weights, now that I'm smaller however and it digs into my ribs, it actually hampers a lot of my lifts so I try to work without it as much as possible. I keep it close by just in case, I dunno like I said it was programmed into my head like crank and yank on cleans back in high school so it's hard to get rid of.
But I'm using it a lot less these days.
in this video of me doing clean and jerks I try without the belt and the last attempt I bring the belt out.
http://youtu.be/i_2Njg4IE48
without the belt I think I wasn't as explosive as I could've been from the floor up, that's more of a leg power thing so I adjusted the second time around. I'm really not comfortable push pressing without a belt because I feel myself folding backwards so once I feel that I ditch with the belt.
with the belt I was a bit more explosive from the bottom going up on my clean.
Edited by 137 (01/29/12 01:57 AM)
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#6097403 - 01/29/12 11:27 AM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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Artvandelay
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goal is to get hot for artvanderlay and finally put my money where my mouth is and stop being a fatbody who gives advice and get on a fitness level of art and silock and others here who are where I should've been years ago. For what it's worth I don't question your ability to lift. I know you know how to lift and the type of lifting you do is similar to what I do. It the type of lifting I recommend for building actual strength.
It's just been a very, very long time for you. I think now that you're doing this sort of lifting, you will make serious changes to your body. I'm rooting for you and will give you a bro-fist when you're ripped. Keep it up.
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#6097485 - 01/29/12 12:55 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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CStyles45
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IMO. Max out w/o any "assists" then worry about pushing yourself more.
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#6097487 - 01/29/12 12:57 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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wolfsburg2
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goal is to get hot for artvanderlay and finally put my money where my mouth is and stop being a fatbody who gives advice and get on a fitness level of art and silock and others here who are where I should've been years ago. For what it's worth I don't question your ability to lift. I know you know how to lift and the type of lifting you do is similar to what I do. It the type of lifting I recommend for building actual strength. It's just been a very, very long time for you. I think now that you're doing this sort of lifting, you will make serious changes to your body. I'm rooting for you and will give you a bro-fist when you're ripped. Keep it up.
I love you guys!!!! Bro fists all around.
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#6097538 - 01/29/12 01:24 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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Artvandelay
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I'm un-convinced that only doing 5 or 6 lifts 5x5 is going to give me the strength and endurance that I need for my job. Compound lifts are all you need. This is how you build real strength and endurance.
Leg machines and shit are wack yo
I strictly do compound lifts and body-weight exercises and running. It's all you need.
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#6097571 - 01/29/12 01:49 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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Impulsive
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I strictly do compound lifts and body-weight exercises and running. It's all you need.
Same here. Everything I do involves body weight or iron only. Throw in some competitive sport or interval training (stairs, sprints, spin) to really get the anaerobic side working and you'll be good.
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#6097794 - 01/29/12 03:55 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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137
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I know this is a spin off but since its my thread I'll do it any way. I'm un-convinced that only doing 5 or 6 lifts 5x5 is going to give me the strength and endurance that I need for my job. I did 3x10 deadlifts today at 140 lbs. I did all 10 perfect form and will move up in weight next week. I also did the same amount for squats. Then moved over and did the leg machines. I feel like I had a great work out and feel like I will increase my weight as I go. Also, like OB1, I only have the two squat racks, but I don't want to be throwing the weight around.
I can't recall where I read the article but it broke down why a 3-5 rep scheme was better for building actual strength rather than sets of 3x10.
something along the lines of if you were a trashman and had little to no strength, but your job required you to move 200lb trash bins all day eventually your body will adapt and you will no longer have to adapt to moving that weight around. But you're not going to get strong from doing it.
so doing high repetitions of something your body will just quickly adapt to it and compensate, and make power and strength where needed on tap.
Where as lifting heavy for 3 reps is enough to work the muscle to grow. I'm probably quoting it all wrong.
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#6099133 - 01/30/12 03:27 AM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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ElementBabe
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douchebags like that are the reason deadlifting is banned from many globogyms
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#6099224 - 01/30/12 08:47 AM
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DieZel
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OMG, is this shit for realz or just schtik...? I mean seriously...?
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#6104692 - 02/01/12 10:49 AM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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PA2KFBPSI
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I say no to belts, straps, pads and gloves. That is how I was taught and feel comfortable.
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#6106703 - 02/01/12 11:01 PM
Re: Weight Lifting Belts/Gut Belts Opinions?
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137
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I use gloves, I just feel naked grabbing the bar without them. No harm there...plus it helps to keep the callouses away.
Using gloves will actually cause more friction for high volume movement, sweat, and guess what. More callouses. It also hampers improving your grip strength since you're gripping a bar through a surface.
Just saying, if it works for you then by all means but food for thought.
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