#6141494 - 02/15/12 09:02 PM
Re: Ford guys, any cheap 302 build up recipe's?
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schtickaz.ai
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yea "trophy stock" 302's w/GT-40p combos are blue-printed/balanced setups costing >$10k or so and probably make 330-360 rwhp with class-legal massaging
cam, headers, intake all basically work together. sounds like you are wanting to do 2 out of 3? not generally a good idea. maybe the intake but dont do the cam.
stock is like ~200 rwhp in a 5-speed, basic bolt ons (exhaust/tune/shortbelt/air filter) probably 230 rwhp or so and 13s potential
most head/cam/intake combos are 280 rwhp+, even the GT-40/GT-40p
I have no idea what heads people are using these days (AFR?TFS????)
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#6142577 - 02/16/12 10:32 AM
Re: Ford guys, any cheap 302 build up recipe's?
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You could probably get away with, even for the short term just using the stock long block with the stock (and I assume roller) cam, and just retrofit an eddy performer air-gap manifold w/ 600cfm vacuum carb, and headers. Probably would have to use an electric fuel pump and a fuel pressure regulator to get it down to 6psi and a decent set of headers for the car. Use the money you save on a cam to get a decent ignition and distributer with a good performance curve.
This was the basic recipe for the engine that was in the LRT when I bought it...used a stock long block "magnum" engine (245-250 net HP stock). Sans headers (used the stock and very poor performing 79 manifolds), stock 180ish @ .050 roller cam w/ 116 LSA, decent ignition, basic carb, air gap intake, the truck ran 15.1's @90 mph all day and returned a decent 17mpg on road trips w/ 3.55 gears.
I'd think the basic recipe above would net the much lighter mavie (my truck comes in at 4100lbs w/ me in it) high 13's, and with a good tune, probably 21-23mpg or more on the hwy.
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#6142605 - 02/16/12 10:41 AM
Re: Ford guys, any cheap 302 build up recipe's?
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I always hear about guys going slower by swapping out the stock cam when they dont swap heads.... ESPECIALLY in the AODe
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#6144609 - 02/16/12 11:23 PM
Re: Ford guys, any cheap 302 build up recipe's?
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Opens up my choices greatly! But maybe a stock headed 302 will get me by for awhile.
Got me by for a while. Hopefully it will hold on for a little while longer. 230k and counting, man these motors just last. Oh yeah, if you remember, I made 220whp and 270wtq with intake manifold, 1.7 rockers and a high flow exhaust. Car still has cats and stock exhaust manifolds, and still passes Cali sniffer. If I would have ditched the cats, and installed some headers, I would have cracked 230whp with ease, me thinks.
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#6147362 - 02/18/12 09:53 AM
Re: Ford guys, any cheap 302 build up recipe's?
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Opens up my choices greatly! But maybe a stock headed 302 will get me by for awhile.
Got me by for a while. Hopefully it will hold on for a little while longer. 230k and counting, man these motors just last. Oh yeah, if you remember, I made 220whp and 270wtq with intake manifold, 1.7 rockers and a high flow exhaust. Car still has cats and stock exhaust manifolds, and still passes Cali sniffer. If I would have ditched the cats, and installed some headers, I would have cracked 230whp with ease, me thinks.
Sounds good, and I have a nitrous kit I could slap on for a little extra oomph at the strip too.
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#6149024 - 02/19/12 02:58 PM
Re: Ford guys, any cheap 302 build up recipe's?
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That is just awesome. If I'd find that under my hood, I'd be pretty happy. Wonder what the build cost was, and what kind of fuel you'd have to feed to that monster... or if it can take the kind of abuse I put my car through.
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