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#5491507 - 04/11/11 10:03 PM Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around...
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The new VW TSI motor (found on late MKV's and all MKVI's) is absolutely not fucking around with a K04 turbo bolted on... glad I have one.

http://www.awe-tuning.com/news/awe-tunin...ats-big-turbos/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwFFJS30Oy8

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#5491524 - 04/11/11 10:11 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: cacasesi]
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Racegas, interior all but gutted. Look, I'm a VW guy at heart but to me, meh. Not streetable at all.

11's and drives to the grocery store? Give me a ring.

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#5491537 - 04/11/11 10:17 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: vwkaferman]
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 Originally Posted By: AWE Tuning
For this pass, AWE Tuning ran VP109 race fuel and removed the passenger seat and rear seat, the spare tire and the floor mats.

While it's obviously not your daily configuration, it's not exactly extreme. And the power adder list is very short.

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#5491602 - 04/11/11 10:55 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: cacasesi]
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#5491614 - 04/11/11 11:02 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: vwkaferman]
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 Originally Posted By: vwkaferman
11's and drives to the grocery store? Give me a ring.


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#5491681 - 04/11/11 11:48 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric

Whatever dude. Where in this thread did I say "daily driver MKVI runs 11's"? As if pulling seats and running race gas is un-fucking-heard-of at the drag strip.

The car trapped 120 mph weighing 3032 lbs with the driver. Do you think it's not making power??? Don't be so fucking ignorant. And if you think your little facepalm emoticon is some sort of "I'm too good to respond" rebuttal, you're just making yourself look like an immature ass who can't take the time to type a coherent thought.

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#5491834 - 04/12/11 07:07 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: cacasesi]
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meh. drag radials, race gas.
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#5491884 - 04/12/11 08:11 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: kyden]
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I don't understand why they wouldn't just try to tune for E85 to take the whole "race gas" argument away. I still think it's a pretty damn good accomplishment to hit 11's in that thing even with the interior pretty gutted and on D/Rs, but with the availability of E85 and the cost, one can hardly say that is "cheating" or what have you at least with regard to fuel. Either way, I enjoyed the video and I'm not really much of a VW guy...

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#5491899 - 04/12/11 08:37 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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Very cool! I love the look if it too.
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#5491934 - 04/12/11 09:05 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: Chris92Sc2]
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Their car may run that, but I highly doubt you're going to see many street tire, full weight k04 gti's out there even break into the 12's.
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#5491948 - 04/12/11 09:15 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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 Originally Posted By: ElectronVTEC2
I don't understand why they wouldn't just try to tune for E85 to take the whole "race gas" argument away.

Not that hard to understand really...if they did that then it would take the whole "bolt on and go" argument away. With E85 you would need: a big pump, bigger injectors, a complete customized tune, etc. and whatever else to make it all work. How would one even go about getting a custom tune in a newwer VW/Audi?

With race gas all you'd need is a couple gallons of fuel and a few button clicks on the steering wheel.

Quite impressive IMO
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#5491968 - 04/12/11 09:23 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: FCobra94]
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If you're goal is to run 11's in a stock 14 second car, you're going to need a bigger pump, injectors, and a good tune anyway? I speak from experience here... Just size up a little on the injectors and a basic 255lph fuel pump will send you into the 500 whp range on E85 with a proper tune.

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#5491973 - 04/12/11 09:27 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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I looked over the site again and I don't see where they've upgraded either pump or injectors. Not quite how I'd do it, but it does invalidate my E85 theory. I still endorse it though - I'm running a mix of E85 and 93 in my new project car with very good results and barely larger-than-stock injectors with the same in-tank fuel pump everyone runs for $80. I like to have my cake and eat it too, not just have a fast car at the dragstrip on race gas. Not that there's anything wrong with that though.

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#5492085 - 04/12/11 10:14 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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11's is moving any way you slice it. Who the fuck cares about street tires? Do you autocross on Blizzaks?

I ran drag radials on a 13 second car. Nothing wrong with having solid, consistent traction and not burning up your DD tires.
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#5492135 - 04/12/11 10:30 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: Impulsive]
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^I'm just spoiled by AWD \:\( I agree though, D/R's are fine really, they're a long way off from giant slicks.

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#5492189 - 04/12/11 10:51 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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 Originally Posted By: ElectronVTEC2
Not quite how I'd do it, but it does invalidate my E85 theory.

lol exactly. It's obviously not as easy to make it happen on some platforms when compared to others.
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#5492370 - 04/12/11 11:55 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: cacasesi]
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 Originally Posted By: cacasesi
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric

Whatever dude. Where in this thread did I say "daily driver MKVI runs 11's"? As if pulling seats and running race gas is un-fucking-heard-of at the drag strip.

The car trapped 120 mph weighing 3032 lbs with the driver. Do you think it's not making power??? Don't be so fucking ignorant. And if you think your little facepalm emoticon is some sort of "I'm too good to respond" rebuttal, you're just making yourself look like an immature ass who can't take the time to type a coherent thought.


You've been trolled.

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#5493382 - 04/12/11 05:47 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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Nice. As always though small turbos create heat and those times won't be typical when the weather warms up or the car is "hot lapped".
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#5493561 - 04/12/11 07:51 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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 Originally Posted By: ElectronVTEC2
I looked over the site again and I don't see where they've upgraded either pump or injectors. Not quite how I'd do it, but it does invalidate my E85 theory. I still endorse it though - I'm running a mix of E85 and 93 in my new project car with very good results and barely larger-than-stock injectors with the same in-tank fuel pump everyone runs for $80. I like to have my cake and eat it too, not just have a fast car at the dragstrip on race gas. Not that there's anything wrong with that though.

Todd


the 2.0t's are direct injection...
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#5493644 - 04/12/11 08:23 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: kyden]
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A $3500 mk3 with $5k of parts thrown at it will run 10s. meh.
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#5493658 - 04/12/11 08:28 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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 Originally Posted By: killerbeeVR6
A $3500 mk3 with $5k of parts thrown at it will run 10s. meh.


Yeah, but it's still a mk3 at the end of the day.
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#5493820 - 04/12/11 09:41 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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 Originally Posted By: ElectronVTEC2
If you're goal is to run 11's in a stock 14 second car, you're going to need a bigger pump, injectors, and a good tune anyway?

I guess I could have prefaced this topic a little better... The mods listed are all the car has. It's a very simple, affordable, bolt-on setup.

For power mods:
- an OEM VW/Audi turbo with off-the-shelf GIAC software (~$2500 on sale)
- a 2.5" catted downpipe and exhaust (AWE's dp is crazy expensive, but you could go catless ebay 3" for $100; cat-back doesn't add any power)
- an OEM VW/Audi intercooler (I paid $286 for mine, brand new from a VW dealer)
- an intake ($200-400 depending on brand)
- a round turbo outlet pipe ($150, no one knows how much it helps, AWE advertises 7 hp)

So for $3500, you're turning a 14 second car into a much faster car, without sacrificing any daily drive-ability.

No, it won't run 11's in daily-driver configuration. It won't even run 11's w/o a perfect track, perfect weather, perfect launch, weight redux etc. But, it did it a couple times in the hands of a well-prepped crew. The average owner on all-seasons would be lucky to hit 12's.

Here's what AWE did a few months back with same car, pump gas, 100% full interior, 18" wheels, street tires: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBXkGwXm7DI

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#5493861 - 04/12/11 10:01 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: cacasesi]
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I've already owned up to my misconceptions earlier in the thread \:\) I'm still stuck in the 90's, nothing to see here, moving along...

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#5493871 - 04/12/11 10:04 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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Sorry. I wasn't taking a shot at you. I just thought I should better highlight how little the car has in way of power mods. That's what impressed me.
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#5493925 - 04/12/11 10:46 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: cacasesi]
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No offense taken. I'm not at all familiar with what goes in to modding fuel systems on DI cars so I'm a bit behind the curve on them \:\)

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#5494053 - 04/13/11 12:10 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: ElectronVTEC2]
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The last generation VW DI 2.0T motor (FSI) did need a pump upgrade with only basic mods. A good pump was/is $1000. This new motor (TSI) does not need a new pump yet. People are making 400+ hp on the stock pump and injectors. 500+ with meth.
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#5494237 - 04/13/11 07:58 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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 Originally Posted By: killerbeeVR6
A $3500 mk3 with $5k of parts thrown at it will run 10s. meh.


VR6 + turbo?
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#5496220 - 04/13/11 08:54 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: LNXGUY]
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 Originally Posted By: LNXGUY
 Originally Posted By: killerbeeVR6
A $3500 mk3 with $5k of parts thrown at it will run 10s. meh.


Yeah, but it's still a mk3 at the end of the day.




Which is worse than a gutted $30k mk5 how?

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#5497438 - 04/14/11 11:57 AM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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meh, vw's are garb regardless of gen \:D
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#5498503 - 04/14/11 08:33 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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 Originally Posted By: killerbeeVR6
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A $3500 mk3 with $5k of parts thrown at it will run 10s. meh.


Yeah, but it's still a mk3 at the end of the day.




Which is worse than a gutted $30k mk5 how?


You think removing a few seats and a spare tire is gutted?

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#5498521 - 04/14/11 08:44 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: LNXGUY]
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It's only impressive if you're used to diesels
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#5498525 - 04/14/11 08:47 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: MurderHornetVR6]
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It's only impressive if you're used to diesels


Anything is impressive compared to a TDI
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#5498585 - 04/14/11 09:21 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: LNXGUY]
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AWE claims to have removed the seats in 10 minutes at the track. Maybe with a small pit crew, but 10 minutes nonetheless, lol.
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#5498619 - 04/14/11 09:36 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: cacasesi]
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My seats in the MKIV come out in less then that, fuck it's one bolt and 2 screws in my car.. 5mins tops.. The rears are even easier!
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#5498650 - 04/14/11 09:49 PM Re: Wow! K04 MKV/VI GTI's are not fucking around... [Re: LNXGUY]
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My seats in the MKIV come out in less then that, fuck it's one bolt and 2 screws in my car.. 5mins tops.. The rears are even easier!

No, no, no! This is a totally gutted race car with nitro-methane fueling, MT slicks, and a huge non-streetable turbo.

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