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#7387659 - 11/12/13 02:03 PM When shooting outdoors during the day...
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Do any of you use the "sunny 16 rule" as a starting point for full manual, or do you get lazy and start with aperture priority with some exposure compensation thrown in.

Since I'm relatively new to SLR photography (4ish years), I primarily start with aperture priority, then switch back and forth between Aperture and manual as scenes or lighting changes.

After reading about it a little, I do think it's a good general guide to memorize as is some of its derivatives such as...

Sand and Snow = ISO 200 * 1/200 * F/22
Sunny 16 = ISO 200 * 1/200 * F16
Cloudy and Overcast (no shadows) = ISO 200 - 1/200 - F/5.6
Sunset/Shade = ISO 200 * 1/200 * F/4


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule

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#7387765 - 11/12/13 02:45 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: 01Ryan10]
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I don't follow any "rules"...I use the right tool for the job. I don't see P, S, A or any other mode as "lazy". M is not the end-all/be-all mode for "pros".

I'll try the sunny 16 rule at times, but most of the time i'm messing around with the settings to get what I want. Whether that is A priority or full manual, i'll choose the one that fits or gets me to the end result how I want it.

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#7387917 - 11/12/13 04:02 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: ]
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use it when i shoot film
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#7387969 - 11/12/13 04:21 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: GSParker
I don't follow any "rules"...I use the right tool for the job. I don't see P, S, A or any other mode as "lazy". M is not the end-all/be-all mode for "pros".

Yeah. Depends on the look I am going for. Not going to be the same for a portrait and a waterfall in the same light.

I was going to hit on the mode dial thing, treed. Although I don't think I've used anything besides manual or bulb in the last year because landscape photographer.



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#7387976 - 11/12/13 04:25 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: ]
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Basically think of it like this... You have 3 ways of affecting your exposure; ISO, aperture and shutter speed. You should always set the aperture first, as that will affect the DOF and overall look of your photo a lot, so pick the "look" you want that way. Moving subjects aside of course. Set shutter speed second, based on how much blur or movement you want (if any) and set ISO last.

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#7388048 - 11/12/13 04:54 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: Nate047]
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 Originally Posted By: Nate047
Basically think of it like this... You have 3 ways of affecting your exposure; ISO, aperture and shutter speed. You should always set the aperture first, as that will affect the DOF and overall look of your photo a lot, so pick the "look" you want that way. Moving subjects aside of course. Set shutter speed second, based on how much blur or movement you want (if any) and set ISO last.

Nate

Interesting...I do it ISO --> Aperture --> Shutter

I generally look at a scene and set my ISO to be the max I want it at (i.e. shooting in a museum this weekend, didn't want to go higher than 1600). Then I set the aperture depending on what I was shooting then let the shutter do its thing (used A priority in this case).

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#7388317 - 11/12/13 06:44 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: 01Ryan10]
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I use it with my F2 with a sorta sketchy spot meter built into it. Knowing full stops is more helpful when I'm trying to figure out if I want to bump the iso or swap to a faster lens or...i don't know. something. With the d700/600, if I'm shooting manual, I'll just use the meter to get close and then fine tune from there.
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#7388366 - 11/12/13 06:58 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: Nate047]
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 Originally Posted By: Nate047
Basically think of it like this... You have 3 ways of affecting your exposure; ISO, aperture and shutter speed. You should always set the aperture first, as that will affect the DOF and overall look of your photo a lot, so pick the "look" you want that way. Moving subjects aside of course. Set shutter speed second, based on how much blur or movement you want (if any) and set ISO last.

Nate


thats how my thought process works. sometimes we have no choice with iso =( either get the shot or not.

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#7388752 - 11/12/13 10:58 PM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: rusty323]
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Getting used to what the rules suggest will help in hard to meter scenes and help you be prepared, having your camera preset before you get to whatever you want to shoot, and be ready to respond to changes in light as they happen. I use it when I shoot with my Yashicamat since it doesn't have a meter, and have to get better with it since my K1000 might as well not have a meter either. Haven't scanned any of my 120 film yet, but the negatives are dense and look evenly exposed.

Its not just for outdoors though. You can evaluate the type and amount of light in any situation and give yourself a place to start. It also helps with film because it lets you know what film to throw in your bag before you head out. Just remember what you put in the camera...
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#7390998 - 11/14/13 09:37 AM Re: When shooting outdoors during the day... [Re: skierd]
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I shoot in pitch black, with flash.
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