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#5286692 - 01/05/11 07:52 PM How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu?
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Just got a possible shoot but I have to make a phone call and I want to have an answer before I do. It would be to shoot the entire menu of food for the menu and website of an opening soon restaurant in my city.

$500? more/less?

Not sure what that type of thing goes for?

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#5286711 - 01/05/11 07:59 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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1: is it a nice place or cheesy/crappy?
2: will it take you more than one day total?
3: will they use the photos online also?
4: ????
5: you know what tiem it is

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#5286723 - 01/05/11 08:03 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: Nate047]
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It's a new bar/grill place but I haven't been inside so I don't know how nice it is. I don't know many details of how long it will take but I will be coordinating with the owner of it and apparently he likes answers fast and action now. He wants to finish and open the place by the 17th of this month. The photos will be used online as well as on the menu.
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#5286768 - 01/05/11 08:25 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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Is there a chance of repeat work if they want new images on their site?
Bar/grill meaning cheap eats?
And how much effort you putting into the images/processing?
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#5286784 - 01/05/11 08:28 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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$1200

Sounds time-consuming.

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#5286833 - 01/05/11 08:48 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: Simon_the_Pieman]
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 Originally Posted By: Simon_the_Pieman
Is there a chance of repeat work if they want new images on their site?
Bar/grill meaning cheap eats?
And how much effort you putting into the images/processing?


Good question, I'm not sure about repeat work, I guess that depends on how good of a job I do. I've never shot food before.
I think cheap eats?
I will put as much effort as needed to make the photos look good, especially if they are going on a menu and website of a restaurant, I don't care if it's cheapy or not \:\)

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#5286962 - 01/05/11 09:29 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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I can put you in touch with a 30+ year studio food photographer if you want a real number.
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#5287095 - 01/05/11 10:19 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: chef]
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Yes, or just ask for me?
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#5287140 - 01/05/11 10:35 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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Depends on how much time you'll be taking setting up, shooting, editing and how you plan to deliver. You'll have to release the images to them or set it up in the contract that you're allowing them to be used for (x), (y), (z) things only. Not exactly this, but something to consider. I'm sure he wants images for menu, menu boards, promotional items, flyers, website, banner ads, other ads, etc. He isn't going to want to pay you each time he does something new. He wants an up front cost and he wants the rights to them...I already know this.

If it is a nice place, don't be afraid to charge him. If it is just an average place, asking too much won't get you anything.


do you have any lighting?

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#5287972 - 01/06/11 10:15 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: ]
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I don't have any off camera lighting no. \:\( But I figure the best I can do is use the natural light and a board to bounce it and scrim to soften shadows and I should be ok.

Just found out its about 60 items that need to be shot, by the end of this week.

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#5288030 - 01/06/11 10:30 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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I would even consider renting a tungsten video light or two with a softbox/Chimera to greatly improve the lighting on a budget. Gel it to suit. Or if familiar with off-camera flash enough, rent some of those and pass cost along to client.
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#5288090 - 01/06/11 10:41 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: ]
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tickets plz
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60 plates is a lot. consider the cooking time as well...which means the lighting will change over time, so renting lights will be best. you'll also need an assistant/stylist. will you be shooting at the restaurant?

EDIT:

does he want the plates to be shot on white? or w/ set dressing? also need a whibal card.

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#5288103 - 01/06/11 10:44 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: busfare]
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This guy wants this done like... now, as in today or tomorrow. I don't have time to rent lighting and shit.

I think the 60 items includes drinks but I'm not sure.

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#5288117 - 01/06/11 10:46 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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tickets plz
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lol...sounds like a point and shoot situation then

umm...then yea, tell him that the food needs to be ready for shot after shot. make one setup w/ window backlight, and fill card. set up tripod, and pop those shots

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#5288128 - 01/06/11 10:48 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: busfare]
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Yeah pretty much, and I don't know what type of quality he is expecting. e-mailing with him now. Showed him my work and he wrote back and wanted to know a ballpark figure. We'll see what he says.
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#5288177 - 01/06/11 10:56 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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tickets plz
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Just be careful not to get caught up in the low-figure "if it goes well, we'll have future work for you" trap. 9 times out of 10, it'll be for more low-figure work if it ever even gets to that point. I had a guy who wanted pics for his t-shirt company...3 men's shirts, 4 women's. He wanted better pics that he already had on his site, but only wanted to pay $100. So I gave him $100 quality photos, w/ an option for better photo-work in the future. He even came back and said he wanted better looking models than my friends I used. Well, then sorry bud...need to pay up for models if you want that!

EDIT: if it's a quick reload scenario, $500/day sounds reasonable for a budget shoot


Edited by the butt pistols (01/06/11 10:58 AM)

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#5288193 - 01/06/11 10:58 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: busfare]
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"Thanks, I will let you know by the end of the day."

Doesn't sound good

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#5288275 - 01/06/11 11:21 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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 Originally Posted By: CivicBabe
"Thanks, I will let you know by the end of the day."

Doesn't sound good


Might've been for the best.

500 bucks for 60 plates is sweatshop rates.

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#5288284 - 01/06/11 11:22 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: Lafora]
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Good, because I didn't quote him $500 \:\)
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#5288292 - 01/06/11 11:24 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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good! \:D

Bar / grill food and natural light doesn't gel for some reason. It's too rustic.

LOL @ restauranteurs who want to cheap out on food photos for their website menu.

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#5288467 - 01/06/11 12:26 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: Lafora]
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natural light is good, but for food shots I want to control my lighting. I want some oil on the food to make it shine and I want to position my lights so the right glimmer shows up.

If you want to do more of this, i'd consider at least investing in some Vivitar 285H flashes and a some radio poppers. I paid $55 for a set of yongnuos on ebay and the vivitars go for ~$80 each.

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#5288561 - 01/06/11 12:50 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: ]
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Why not barter, and ask him to pay you in $1,000 worth of gift certificates?
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#5289035 - 01/06/11 02:45 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: jon!]
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you can't be fucking serious
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#5289176 - 01/06/11 03:15 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: ]
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#5289328 - 01/06/11 04:15 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: TheStupidFock]
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That steaming trick at the end is cool.

lol @ $1000 in bar food

The Vivitar 285HV + remote trigger is great for this type of shot like Parker said. It's an old flash, not sure who actually makes them now, but there are plenty of cheap flashes that work. I have had my 285HV flash since the 90's and paid $25 for a cowboystudio trigger and hot shoe. Works with my Canon bodies and 430EX, too. A nice lighting setup would be great, but it's gonna cost way more than one menu.

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#5289362 - 01/06/11 04:29 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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 Originally Posted By: CivicBabe
Showed him my work


Care to share with the rest of us?

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#5291147 - 01/07/11 11:11 AM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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He ended up going with an actual food photographer

Ah well \:\)

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#5291512 - 01/07/11 12:50 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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How are you marketing, out of curiosity?
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#5291962 - 01/07/11 02:45 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: ]
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I'm not really. This just happen to fall in my lap because a good friend is doing the electrical work for the place and said he knew a photographer.
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#5292389 - 01/07/11 05:44 PM Re: How much for shooting opnening restaraunt menu? [Re: CivicBabe]
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Ah too bad. One thing is take a look at the photog they went with for reference (price/style/etc...) if u can find out.
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