#5276281 - 12/31/10 01:04 AM
Intellectual property, the bane of enlightened self interest
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scootergeek
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Every so often, I photograph outdoor sculptures. It's something I really enjoy because the resulting shot is a collaboration with not just the artist but the curator of the site where the sculpture is located and mother nature herself. I try not to make documents of the work, but rather stamp my own esthetic sense to the final project. But still, I'm photographing somebody else's artwork and wherever possible, I caption the images with the sculptor's name and the location of the work.
A few weeks ago, the people who represent the sculptor Tony Rosenthal favorited and invited me to post this image on the flickr group they started of his images:
Laumeier Sculpture Park by scottspaeth, on Flickr
Which I thought was cool and a pretty savvy way for them to show off his work to potential collectors. So that's all good (even if it does mean that they essentially get to use my two images of that work for free).
But then today, they felt the need to add this as a comment on the above pic:
Tony Rosenthal, House of the Minotaur, 1980 Laumeier Sculpture Park Collection Gift of Tony Rosenthal in honor of Adam and Judith Aronson © Tony Rosenthal/Licensed by VAGA, New York, NY http://www.laumeiersculpturepark.org/node/202http://www.tonyrosenthal.com/PublicArt.htmAll Works of Art created by Tony Rosenthal are copyright ©Tony Rosenthal: http://www.tonyrosenthal.comEven though much of Tony Rosenthal Art is located in public places, under United States Copyright Law, no Tony Rosenthal Work of Art is in the “public domain”. If you want to reproduce, photograph, market and/or sell any Tony Rosenthal Work of Art and/or image, in any manner, and for any reason, you must obtain permission from the Tony Rosenthal Copyright Agent at http://www.VAGArights.com; e-mail: info@vagarights.com. Getty images IS NOT the copyright agent for Tony Rosenthal. http://www.tonyrosenthal.com/RightsReproduction.htm
And while all that is legally true, it's rubbing me the wrong way. Certainly they have retained the rights to all commercial use of the work, and fair enough. But the image above - and it's not a great shot, I much prefer my other take on it here - is pretty clearly NOT commercial material, and so all that crap is unnecessarily heavy handed. And annoying to a photographer who up to that point was enthusiastically on the sculptor's side. As I go to the sculpture park every so often to catch the work in different light and seasons, my feeling at the moment is to not photograph The House of the Minotaur anymore.
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#5277092 - 12/31/10 02:10 PM
Re: Intellectual property, the bane of enlightened self interest
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LNXGUY
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That's awesome 
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#5277171 - 12/31/10 02:52 PM
Re: Intellectual property, the bane of enlightened self interest
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LNXGUY
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DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#5277342 - 12/31/10 04:53 PM
Re: Intellectual property, the bane of enlightened self interest
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Nate047
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lulz
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#5277356 - 12/31/10 05:02 PM
Re: Intellectual property, the bane of enlightened self interest
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flyEX #1
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I favorited it and left and left "love the composition" or something as a comment.
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