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#5771661 - 08/29/11 04:04 PM Sprained lower right side of back
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So it's been two weeks since i've sprained my lower right side of the back.

I sprained it from all things, picking up my hockey gear in a lazy way.

Last week i've decided to see a chiropractor (my buddy). Now i've only seen him twice thus far, and both times i do feel relief and it seems to be healing a bit quicker (don't know if that's a placebo effect).

Do you guys think chiropractor's are worth it? Why i ask is because i got effy when he said he would create a 'customized program for me' basically hooking me for a few more times over 6 weeks. I've never been to a chiropractor before is this the norm? I've been fortunate to be blessed with a perfect athletic MMA lean clubsi-Body all these years.

My guy uses the activator method.

Anyone chime in?

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#5771671 - 08/29/11 04:08 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: OracerO]
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besides getting into a chiro argument.... yes it will help.
just dont do silly "neck adjustments"
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#5772578 - 08/29/11 10:41 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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When my back was fucked from hockey I went to a chiro for 15 minute sessions each week. Personally, it helped me, not so much the chiro, but the exercises he had me doing at home to stretch my back. Each week he'd check on my progress, how my muscles reacted, my flexibility and would change it up a bit, etc.

IMO, it's totally worth it, that back pain is brutal. Personally i'd rather brake my arm and heal in a month than deal a with a few month long recovery of a fucked back.

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#5772900 - 08/30/11 08:05 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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yeah welcome to my life \:\( - chiro with combo of massage and stretching is ideal, and like vas said...it's not even so much the chiro (all they do is pop the bones which releases the gases in between the joints to let it move better and let it get realigned by muscle/ligament/etc over time), but it's the muscle aspect that helps (stretching/massage/acupuncture). i did chiro for some years on and off, but it's been sports/ART massage and acupuncture that helps for me the most (with stretching).

i've had to do a combo of many of these over the years, but like you said it sucks how it seems to be 'temporary' as the body is always adjusting, etc. and it's tough to get it back to 100% (plus you have to layoff re-injuring it too, which can be tricky).

not to mention, alot of times it's 'referred pain' which means it's actually not your 'lower right back' that's sprained. ie. i took care of my lower back issue pretty much, but now it's muscle tension/tightness in psoas muscle along with other ones in my hip and ass (tightass lulz), which need work...and it 'feels' similar to lower back pain...but really the issue stems from fascia pain coming up the side of my leg muscle to hip/ass area and up to lower back and connecting to the first lower rib. all that shit's connected \:\( anyways - hope that helps you fix yours.
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#5772930 - 08/30/11 08:32 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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Yea, my issue was muscle tension and muscle cramps.

Basically when you sit in an office all day your back muscle does nothing, you go and play hockey, the shock you put your back through is just insane. Sometimes I'd last a game, other times I'd have to walk half way out and I wouldn't even be able to drive myself home because the muscle spazm would be insane. That's basically how guys start abusing pain killers, other guys would pop T3's and they would be fine.

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#5772950 - 08/30/11 08:42 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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^exactly...as a couple of doc's have told me, having a 'desk job' in combination with playing any active sport only once a week (maybe twice) is killer. i mean the muscle memory is there as to being used to playing the sport...but it's the shock of suddenly having to work full blast vs. not that makes the get pulled and/or very sore for 1-2 days after.
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#5773010 - 08/30/11 09:09 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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I'm going through this lower back pain BS right now. It's been lingering for a few months. Just when I think I'm through it, it pops back up again. My issue is having a 1-year old crawling around at home and stooping down to scoop him up when he's getting into shit he shouldn't be. Also stooping over and plucking him out of his crib etc. Poor lifting techniques I guess and no chance to fully rest and recover it. I had to stop working out regularly because of the pain and I think that's made it worse. Got to get moving again. The massages aren't really helping.
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#5773023 - 08/30/11 09:19 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: TYJelly]
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you going to a legit massage place? it should help..
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#5773030 - 08/30/11 09:23 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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if not, you need to see a sports massage therapist, not just do some weakass body one lol. ie. active release therapy (ART), hurts on the bad spots but feels good at the same time. it breaks down the tissue, release all that lactic acid build up crap and lets the muscle loosen up again (need to do repeatedly over a couple of weeks), so it gets the chance to be ok and not tighten up again. that works the best in combo with acupuncture if you can/want to that is. but even just ART with stretching and some heat/cold should help nice. pop a pill if you need to reduce some pain/swelling.

it's nice wehn work benefits cover you like 75-90% btw \:D
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#5773105 - 08/30/11 09:57 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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My chiro guy said my lower back was to muscular (lol - no joke), then said that working out your lower back is totally wrong, as the lower back is mostly engaged throughout the day, thus strong enough. He said that to avoid injury do stretches, plus if i wanted to become stronger to work out on my abs and gluts, never the lower back.

Anyway, i sprained something, something in my back around the lower back area spasms. Its been getting better, been at the chrio twice already and he's done 40min adjustments on me. I won't lie, for the past 1.5 weeks before i saw him, my healing was super slow, but gradual. After seeing him it seemed to have sped the healing up.

And yes, as some of the guys here have stated, real lower back pain is brutal. I mean, the day after i sprained it, i had trouble pissing - that kinda back pain. Or i would walk 3-4 steps, back spasm, then stumble a few steps.



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#5773115 - 08/30/11 10:03 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: OracerO]
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My chiro uses the activator method, it's like a little pen'ish thing that shoots out 5'lbs-20lbs of pressure in a concentrated area, does acupuncture as well.

But he said that i'm pretty minor as i seem to be recovering well enough on my own. That being said, when it comes to my health i usually get things checked out.

He did fix my wipe lash (within those 2 times i went, i made him look at it with out extra charge lol). Wipe lash thanks to Kenneth.

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#5773122 - 08/30/11 10:09 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: OracerO]
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 Originally Posted By: OracerO
My chiro guy said my lower back was to muscular (lol - no joke), then said that working out your lower back is totally wrong, as the lower back is mostly engaged throughout the day, thus strong enough. He said that to avoid injury do stretches, plus if i wanted to become stronger to work out on my abs and gluts, never the lower back.


My guy said the exact same thing to me, about too muscular, etc.

Essentially you just have to do the stretches and ALWAYS warm up before any streneous physical activity. Guess we aren't 18 anymore \:\(

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#5773136 - 08/30/11 10:15 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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Seriously, i hurt my lower back from all things, picking up my hockey gear. Wtf.

As well, i dont usually take pain killers for anything. But that first week, i was taking advil like my life depended on it... it kinda was really, now that i think about it.


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#5773202 - 08/30/11 10:49 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: OracerO]
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Now you gotta warm up before picking up your gear too
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#5773217 - 08/30/11 10:56 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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stretching and working out abs/core is pretty standard workout knowledge... most peoples fucked up backs come from weak abs/core.


and you should always warm up before physical activity n00bs
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#5773265 - 08/30/11 11:18 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I always do a good stretch/warmup before working out. Mine was the awkward lifts out of a deep crib in the middle of the night. Poor form and a tight back is guaranteed in the middle of the night like that. The massages would help for a day or two but I just didn't go regularly enough for it to make a huge difference. It's actually felt pretty good so far this week so I might be out of the woods finally. Fingers crossed.

And +1 to not being 18 anymore. I feel old.

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#5773681 - 08/30/11 02:18 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: TYJelly]
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Abs yes. But i didnt know that it's pointless to workout my lower back, as i did concentrate on working out with weights for my lower back.

It makes sense to strengthen your lower back you work out the muscle group around the lower back.

Forget warming up before picking up my hockey gear. Gonna go shopping for a wheel bag. ahaha.

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#5773706 - 08/30/11 02:32 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: OracerO]
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you shouldnt need to warm up to pick up your hockey bag...

and working out your lower back isnt useless. most medical folks dont know jack about sports and/or working out...its true.
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#5773747 - 08/30/11 02:50 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
you shouldnt need to warm up to pick up your hockey bag...

Sarcasm, look it up.


 Originally Posted By: Euphoric

and working out your lower back isnt useless. most medical folks dont know jack about sports and/or working out...its true.



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#5773807 - 08/30/11 03:17 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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well for one thing a chiro isnt a doctor.unless they deal with sports they generally know dick all about them(and even then its not guaranteed ). Same goes for any medical professional.
so eat a bag of dicks \:D

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#5775082 - 08/31/11 09:36 AM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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Backaches right in the morning. This chiro better be worth the cash!
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#5840770 - 10/04/11 01:43 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: OracerO]
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Well the pain came back for me.

Was lifting like 50 of those 2ft x 2ft patio stone and stacking them up, my back got FUBARED large.

That followed by carrying two sheets of drywall at a time and i am back in pain territory.

Just went for my first RMT visit in over a year, I feel like I added 10 years to my life expectancy. Gotta start stretching again.

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#5840849 - 10/04/11 02:03 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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not lifting properly? serious question. lift with your legs mang
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#5840888 - 10/04/11 02:12 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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i thought when vas just looked at heavy shit, it just lifted itself up?
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#5840919 - 10/04/11 02:19 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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Not to brag, but my back pain's gone finally.
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#5840933 - 10/04/11 02:23 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: TYJelly]
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^you lucky. mine is now more in my hip muscles (connected to lower back)...ugh not fun.

starting hockey tomorrow morning with work dudes, wicked deal given work pays half! rink is like 8 mins from home/the office too - but on the ice at 7am ftl...play til l8am, shower/change, then to work...im so fucked for Wed's
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#5840948 - 10/04/11 02:30 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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mine is now more in my hip muscles (connected to lower back)
orly
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#5840959 - 10/04/11 02:33 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Creamin Scum Twat
mine is now more in my hip muscles (connected to lower back)
orly


trolling much lately? lol

yeah, come here i'll show you close up
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#5840990 - 10/04/11 02:41 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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hip bone connected to the thigh bone
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#5841029 - 10/04/11 02:57 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Euphoricuck]
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#5841044 - 10/04/11 03:03 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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This new place, man the guy got in there good. Brushed up on my balls a few times while doing inner thighs...fuuuu.

Euphoric, lifting with legs still requires use of your lower back, also your LEGs can actually cause the back pain as they are all connected right at your lower back. When we did the assessment, my legs were stiffer than any other part so he spent most time there instead of my back.

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#5841051 - 10/04/11 03:06 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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obviously but if you were purely lifting bending at the hip then thats a lot worse...way worse.

and captain obvious its all connected

i bet your hang strings have sick flexibility
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#5841059 - 10/04/11 03:09 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Risk E. Business, esq.]
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^^yup...same thing i find too (everything is connected from head to toe pretty much with muscle and fascia).

ie. thigh/itiband and hams all tight, which leads to them pulling on muscles in lowerback and hips (QL, piriformis, etc) which is what gets me bad. oh and all the way up to psoas...which is actually a lot of it (from desk job, then playing sports or doing active shit after). vas sounds you have something similar. the referred pain travels up to lower/mid back from other spots below.

vas, get one of these:
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/flexibilityandstretching/ss/FoamRoller.htm

works wonders man.
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#5841066 - 10/04/11 03:10 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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^you lucky. mine is now more in my hip muscles (connected to lower back)...ugh not fun.

starting hockey tomorrow morning with work dudes, wicked deal given work pays half! rink is like 8 mins from home/the office too - but on the ice at 7am ftl...play til l8am, shower/change, then to work...im so fucked for Wed's


Man you have the perfect life eh: 18 setting high flo power vented super duper complex super high efficiency furnace, 1 million dollar home appreciation YTD, work and hockey in your backyard, work sponsored EVERYTHING events,commute for 36.79 seconds to work and back, fill up with gas once every 3 years. wowowowowoowow


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#5841078 - 10/04/11 03:14 PM Re: Sprained lower right side of back [Re: Screamin' Type-R]
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^^yup...same thing i find too (everything is connected from head to toe pretty much with muscle and fascia).
bro you know it snows in winter eh..amazing
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