Page 1 of 1 1
Topic Options
#86285 - 04/12/05 06:28 PM idle bouncing
EBPSivic99 Offline
Poster


Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 306
Loc: AZ, United States
There has been a few times when I start my car and at idle it starts to bounce to about 2-2.5k. Has anybody experienced this before that could help me solve this problem?
Top
Videos
#86286 - 04/12/05 06:43 PM Re: idle bouncing
CIVIC dude Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 14531
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
mine started doing the same thing with hondata. 1000-2000rpm the idle bounces for example when stopped at a light.
_________________________
00 JRSC VSM SiR sold \:\(
'11 GTI sold
'18 family hauler

Top
#86287 - 04/12/05 06:47 PM Re: idle bouncing
crazyimport Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 06/21/02
Posts: 6460
Loc: Hamilton, ON
from what i understand... ideling is very hard to tune.... especially if you have different injectors
_________________________

Top
#86288 - 04/12/05 07:04 PM Re: idle bouncing
ghostsi Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 389
Loc: OC, CA
I used to get that, then hondata updated me w/ an update and went away.....

However, once in awhile i will get the famous but annoying hic-up at or about 3k-5000k

the hic-up happens under normal driving conditions...strange stuff...
_________________________
RIP Wilfredo Ramos
aim anothersi

00 SI -sold
04 YFZ450
/\
08 Honda Shadow Spirit
02 F-150 SCC 4x4
Towing The Toys Around

Top
#86289 - 04/12/05 08:36 PM Re: idle bouncing
2000REDSI Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 10/15/02
Posts: 376
Loc: Kentucky
I have hondata also and at a stop light my jumps up from 1000 to 1500 and i also get the hic-up to sometimes just from normal driving.
_________________________
2000 MR Honda Civic Si Vortech Equipped!! http://my.prostreetonline.com/member/2000redsi/ Rate my Ride. Thanks!!

Top
#86290 - 04/12/05 10:19 PM Re: idle bouncing
Gab Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 04/24/02
Posts: 16915
Loc: Boston, MA
Hondata here: Mine jumps pretty bad too. In the summer it's not as bad though. Winter...fagettaboutit.
Top
#86291 - 04/12/05 10:27 PM Re: idle bouncing
EBPSivic99 Offline
Poster


Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 306
Loc: AZ, United States
I'm feeling a little better knowing i'm not the only one.
Top
#86292 - 04/12/05 10:30 PM Re: idle bouncing
ghostsi Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 389
Loc: OC, CA
Actually, mine does bounce. However, it only does it when I start the car and move the car for a bit. Then you hear the motor rev up and down a couple of times.


_________________________
RIP Wilfredo Ramos
aim anothersi

00 SI -sold
04 YFZ450
/\
08 Honda Shadow Spirit
02 F-150 SCC 4x4
Towing The Toys Around

Top
#86293 - 04/12/05 10:35 PM Re: idle bouncing
SiAdam Moderator Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 07/22/01
Posts: 19278
Loc: WV
I must be lucky, haven't had that problem yet, car runs just like stock minus the turbo...lol

_________________________
05 Berlina Black S2000 700whp / 500wtq
Built, not bought.

Top
#86294 - 04/12/05 10:39 PM Re: idle bouncing
CIVIC dude Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 14531
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
honestly if so many of us have the same problem how can there be no fix for it?

I love the way the car drives with the hondata, but in all honesty it makes my 00si seem like a shit box. Especially when it revs up and down at the lights anad people look at you.
_________________________
00 JRSC VSM SiR sold \:\(
'11 GTI sold
'18 family hauler

Top
#86295 - 04/12/05 10:58 PM Re: idle bouncing
O16581724525 Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 480
Loc: Terre Haute, IN.
Where did you guys take your coolant lines from? If you take them from the throttle body area, those cycle through the IAC, the IAC requires coolant cycling through it to idle properly.
_________________________
http://www.mazdaperformance.net -1995 Honda Civic EX Turbo. -1990 Acura Integra Sedan

Top
#86296 - 04/12/05 11:29 PM Re: idle bouncing
ghostsi Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 389
Loc: OC, CA
Quote:

Where did you guys take your coolant lines from? If you take them from the throttle body area, those cycle through the IAC, the IAC requires coolant cycling through it to idle properly.




I am sitting here reading your post and i can't figure what this has to do w/ our hondata?

Please explain!!
_________________________
RIP Wilfredo Ramos
aim anothersi

00 SI -sold
04 YFZ450
/\
08 Honda Shadow Spirit
02 F-150 SCC 4x4
Towing The Toys Around

Top
#86297 - 04/12/05 11:39 PM Re: idle bouncing
O16581724525 Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 07/16/04
Posts: 480
Loc: Terre Haute, IN.
This is in the "Got Boost" section. Your car is turbocharged, correct?

I know it matters on the D16z6, i don't know about other engines.


Edited by O16581724525 (04/12/05 11:41 PM)
_________________________
http://www.mazdaperformance.net -1995 Honda Civic EX Turbo. -1990 Acura Integra Sedan

Top
#86298 - 04/12/05 11:46 PM Re: idle bouncing
CIVIC dude Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 01/20/00
Posts: 14531
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
i for one am SC and i never modified any of the coolant lines. This problem only started once the hondata was installed.
_________________________
00 JRSC VSM SiR sold \:\(
'11 GTI sold
'18 family hauler

Top
#86299 - 04/12/05 11:48 PM Re: idle bouncing
SamuraiSam Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 07/29/02
Posts: 8828
Loc: Bellingham, WA
he's talking about a turbo that is cooled with oil and water as opposed to turbo that is cooled only by oil. the easy-ass way to rig up a watercooled turbo is to just run the coolant lines from the throttle body to the turbo instead of doing it correctly, if you do this, often times the throttle body won't idle correctly & it's not a tuning problem.

about 95% of the time, however, the problem lies in the tune. whoever tuned your car didn't bother to test out idling under a wide variety of conditions. I'm guessing that it was dyno tuned? Dyno tuning is great and 100% necessary for every car with an aftermarket fuel system, but that doesn't mean that street tuning for part throttle, crusing, and idling isn't needed. It is an important part of a car's tune to do street tuning or else you end up with things like part throttle hesitation or idle issues....

Top
#86300 - 04/13/05 12:18 AM Re: idle bouncing
dogg2k78 Offline
Jr Poster


Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 185
Mine is bouncing and i haven't hooked the Hondata up yet
Top
#86301 - 04/13/05 12:21 AM Re: idle bouncing
shane two Offline
Member


Registered: 02/20/05
Posts: 837
Loc: South Valley
oftentimes if your using an obd1 ecu in an obd2 car there are some issues with the...
_________________________
"My Si, when it was stock was a low 15 second car..."

Top
#86302 - 04/13/05 12:53 AM Re: idle bouncing
99blusi Offline
Sr Member


Registered: 03/20/02
Posts: 1018
Loc: Michigan
With the OBD 1 conversion on OBD 2 cars there's something about the IACV that can give a bouncy idle. I believe hondata has a way to adjust the duty cycle of the IACV. Your tuner should be able to take care of that.
_________________________
1999 Civic Si...One Fab/SC61...b16 hotness

http://www.geocities.com/high_grad/99Blusi.html

My vouch thread....
http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.php?Ca...o=&fpart=1&vc=1

Top
#86303 - 04/13/05 03:48 AM Re: idle bouncing
cua0 Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 17270
Loc: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
mine does it too, usually on cold start or cold days when i start the car and move it out of the garage to warm up, it'll do that. but it's not tuned for shit yet heh. hopefully when i street tune it i'll have a fix.
_________________________

Top
#86304 - 04/13/05 05:39 AM Re: idle bouncing
Mad Hungarian? Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 02/23/00
Posts: 13053
Loc: NE OH
this is definitely a very common topic w/ hondata owners. You guys may also want to check your IACV to see if it is clogged. Sometimes w/ a boosted car, you can have a bad seal on the turbo and it'll let some oil go. So that's a thought as well. As stated above, it's common w/ hondata, but check other things as well, including vac leaks
_________________________
"I am the sheep that got lost"

2003 Nissan 350z Touring Edition - she gone
2014 Chevrolet Silverado Z71 4x4 Crew Cab

Top
#86305 - 04/13/05 07:31 AM Re: idle bouncing
Gab Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 04/24/02
Posts: 16915
Loc: Boston, MA
Quote:

Your tuner should be able to take care of that.



My tuner said it was the best he could do, something about having 780cc injectors lol

Top
#86306 - 04/13/05 10:43 AM Re: idle bouncing
DCSportsSI Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 01/26/03
Posts: 554
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
First thing's first. check EVERY vacumm line in that engine bay. Thats the #1 cause. Second, IACV which is not likely but it happens. If its still jacked, and you have hondata, then find another basemap from someone else. I had a stock B16 motor with 750cc's idling PERFECT at 900rpms. Of course, Mase tuned it. Send your ECu to him and he'll give you a perfect base map until you get tuned. If you are tuned then damn... sucks for you. sorry.
_________________________
Ricky @ Wiredspeed FlamencoT KTeller Camp1320 Earl

Top
#86307 - 04/13/05 11:53 AM Re: idle bouncing
SiAdam Moderator Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 07/22/01
Posts: 19278
Loc: WV
Quote:

Quote:

Your tuner should be able to take care of that.



My tuner said it was the best he could do, something about having 780cc injectors lol




I have the same injectors, Precision? My tuner kicks a$$.

Corey from SlowMotion. Car idle like stock, amazing.

As stated above, street tuning is as important as dyno tuning it, which is often times overlooked.

The tuner should be able to fix that......if not...look elsewhere....
_________________________
05 Berlina Black S2000 700whp / 500wtq
Built, not bought.

Top
#86308 - 04/13/05 12:14 PM Re: idle bouncing
OLDNAME Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 5436
My ghetto tunning. Idle at 700-800.
_________________________
One of the last Si w/ BPU

Top
#86309 - 04/13/05 12:31 PM Re: idle bouncing
DCSportsSI Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 01/26/03
Posts: 554
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
700-800 isnt too bad as long as its smooth. I was Mase'd with some good shit. lol
Top
#86310 - 04/13/05 08:01 PM Re: idle bouncing
shane two Offline
Member


Registered: 02/20/05
Posts: 837
Loc: South Valley
i have 1000cc injectors, on uberdata, with an obd2 motor, and an obd1 ecu, and i have a badass idle.. mebbe its just my badass tunin intuition?


Its obvioulsy better those of my spelling!
_________________________
"My Si, when it was stock was a low 15 second car..."

Top
#86311 - 04/13/05 08:29 PM Re: idle bouncing
SiR Steel Offline
Post Master Sr


Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 8410
Loc: West Vancouver, BC, Canada
Quote:

this is definitely a very common topic w/ hondata owners. You guys may also want to check your IACV to see if it is clogged. Sometimes w/ a boosted car, you can have a bad seal on the turbo and it'll let some oil go. So that's a thought as well. As stated above, it's common w/ hondata, but check other things as well, including vac leaks




I have a JRSC with a stock fuel pump and RC440s with a Stage 2b.

Do you think getting a Walbro hi-flow fuel pump would solve the problem of the bouncing idle?
_________________________
2018 BMW M2 6MT
2021 BMW X3 xDrive30i
1977 British Leyland MINI Modded 1380cc LHD
2005 Piaggio Vespa ET2 Modded 70cc

Top
#86312 - 04/13/05 08:34 PM Re: idle bouncing
ghostsi Offline
Jr Member


Registered: 02/06/03
Posts: 389
Loc: OC, CA
Nope,

I have that fuel pump!!!!

It has to be in the tune!!!!!!

that is what iam seeing from this thread
_________________________
RIP Wilfredo Ramos
aim anothersi

00 SI -sold
04 YFZ450
/\
08 Honda Shadow Spirit
02 F-150 SCC 4x4
Towing The Toys Around

Top
#86313 - 04/14/05 12:10 PM Re: idle bouncing
SiAdam Moderator Offline
Post Master Supreme


Registered: 07/22/01
Posts: 19278
Loc: WV
Quote:

Nope,

I have that fuel pump!!!!

It has to be in the tune!!!!!!

that is what iam seeing from this thread




Ditto....its all in the tune.....
_________________________
05 Berlina Black S2000 700whp / 500wtq
Built, not bought.

Top
Page 1 of 1 1


Moderator:  M3Pilot or M3Driver, SiAdam, The Mad Paki 
Hop to:
Shout Box

CSi Sponsors


ClubSi.com Shirts
ClubSi-Shirts
GameStop
Black-Friday Specials
Big Brake Kits
StopTech.Sale BBK Clearance
Brake Kits
Buy Brake Kits
EBC Brake Kits
EBC Brake Kits
BuyBrakes
Brake Kits-Pads & Rotors Sets
StopTech Brake Kits
StopTech
StopTech NZ
StopTech
StopTech Australia
StopTech
Hawk Brake Pads
Hawk Brake Pads
Samys Camera
GoPros, Cameras, Gear
Brake Specials Near Me
Brake Specials Near Me
Brake Pad Coupons
Coupon Code "hondafetish"
Porsche Brakes
Porsche Brake Upgrades
2-Piece Rotors-Civic Type-R
2-Piece Civic Rotors
Advertisement

| Brake Pads | | How To Change Brake Pads | | Drilled Slotted Brake Kits Cheap | EBC Brake Kits | Performance Brake Kits | Brake Specials Near Me | How To Replace Brake Pads