#214343 - 03/22/06 09:55 PM
very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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the g3neral
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ive always been a die hard Si fan.. BUT... ive come across the srt4 and my friend said he can get me a discount on it.... sooo.. im thinking now...the srt4 is unquestionablly better in performace(230hp) .. has a great exaust etc... lets put the biased aside and really see which car is the better buy... im really confused just on what to get right now... thnx guys!`~
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#214346 - 03/22/06 10:12 PM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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ICE99SI
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Loc: nj
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ive always been a die hard Si fan.. BUT... ive come across the srt4 and my friend said he can get me a discount on it.... sooo.. im thinking now...the srt4 is unquestionablly better in performace(230hp) .. has a great exaust etc... lets put the biased aside and really see which car is the better buy... im really confused just on what to get right now... thnx guys!`~
I would'nt go so far as to say it's (better in performance because IT"S NOT) the only thing that shit box has is power. NO handling!!! It's not even on the same page as the si and these are not biased remarks.
NEON
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#214349 - 03/22/06 11:25 PM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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Duncandog
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Loc: Delaware , Sussex
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#214353 - 03/23/06 07:08 AM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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ocampo5150
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Registered: 01/25/06
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Loc: Northern Virginia
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Two of my friends when I lived in S.C had SRT's, and let me be the first to say that those things are fucking fast! They're very, very easy and cheap to mod. Come on, all you really need to do is turn up the boost add a couple things here and there and it'll fly. But, Jersey Joe said, at the end of the day, the SRT is going to take a big hit in value. Now, unless the "discount" that your friend can get you is like ten grand off invoice price (or something crazy like that) I wouldn't bother looking at the Dodge. Is it new or used? If it's new, then damn they must be having a hard time selling that piece. They stopped making them like last year or something. That's a sign of their value right there.
Remember the Civic Si is the way to go. There's probably a good reason you became a member at this forum, remember?
Oh yeah, the SRT is a Dodge...Al Bundy drove a Dodge.
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#214366 - 03/23/06 04:11 PM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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normaspirated
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Registered: 11/04/99
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Loc: Nevada
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I find it very funny that Honda fanbois' only argument for not buying the SRT is that "omg lol Neon crap".
+1 Last time I checked, a civic is in the same compact class as the neon. Chrylser just made a mistake by naming it "Neon", is all.
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#214369 - 03/23/06 08:08 PM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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tropicana
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 17529
Loc: Québec City, Qc
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Its simple, the neon is faster and will respond to mods better from the start with the sacrifice of the quality of the car itself EX" the inside sucks ass, its loud as hell, get poor gas mialge" , the motor is bulletproof though, The SI is made better, looks better and has better longrun potential. EX " slap a turbo on a k20z3 and you will butt rape 95% of all srt4's all day long. Hope this helps.
The inside sucks ass? Wow. It's no digital gauges like the Si, but it still is pretty decent, imo. No worse than a previous generation Mustang GT... Tell me which car offers better seats at less than $20k?
Loud as hell, because it's got no mufflers. I get 28 mpg with mine. Better longrun potential? That's yet to be proven by far.
Is there a turbo on your super magic JDM machine? Last time I checked, no one bought an Si with a turbo from the dealership.
Oh, you WILL install a turbo and THEN you will kick Neon asses...I see. I'm sorry. Guess you're saving money here
Oh, no, wait...the Si is $3-4k more than the SRT. Guess it's true the Si has more potential in the long run.
Seriously, I don't see any REAL solid argument why the Si is so much better than the SRT, besides fanboy-ism. When you have to rely on interior quality or non-electric rear windows in order to buy a more expensive but least performant car, that's how I call it.
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#214371 - 03/23/06 09:46 PM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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the g3neral
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Registered: 01/23/06
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Loc: NY
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Its simple, the neon is faster and will respond to mods better from the start with the sacrifice of the quality of the car itself EX" the inside sucks ass, its loud as hell, get poor gas mialge" , the motor is bulletproof though, The SI is made better, looks better and has better longrun potential. EX " slap a turbo on a k20z3 and you will butt rape 95% of all srt4's all day long. Hope this helps.
The inside sucks ass? Wow. It's no digital gauges like the Si, but it still is pretty decent, imo. No worse than a previous generation Mustang GT... Tell me which car offers better seats at less than $20k?
Loud as hell, because it's got no mufflers. I get 28 mpg with mine. Better longrun potential? That's yet to be proven by far.
Is there a turbo on your super magic JDM machine? Last time I checked, no one bought an Si with a turbo from the dealership.
Oh, you WILL install a turbo and THEN you will kick Neon asses...I see. I'm sorry. Guess you're saving money here
Oh, no, wait...the Si is $3-4k more than the SRT. Guess it's true the Si has more potential in the long run.
Seriously, I don't see any REAL solid argument why the Si is so much better than the SRT, besides fanboy-ism. When you have to rely on interior quality or non-electric rear windows in order to buy a more expensive but least performant car, that's how I call it.
owned... lolol
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#214374 - 03/24/06 08:03 AM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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tropicana
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Registered: 09/26/02
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Loc: Québec City, Qc
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If honda made a factory turbo Civic Si it would own the hell out of a SRT4 on lower boost.
Maybe it would, but it doesn't.
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Point blank ive seen B18B1 ls turboed integra's strait rape SRT4s.... Thats a non vtec engine with boost lol.
Does Honda make those cars for less than $20k? That's right, it doesn't.
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And if RSX's with hondata and a few bolt ons are in any way an indication of what the new Si'a are going to be capable of.
Didn't know you could buy Hondata from Acura dealers.
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Then with intake/header/exhaust and hondata that makes us just as fast as an SRT factory. WITH NO BOOST! lmao
Now you have to mod your more expensive car to be just as fast as another cheaper and stock car. Awesome! That's incredible!
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Fact is while I have respect for the car because yes its fast and has potential. When it takes you haveing a turbo to get 230 hp your not really impressing me much.
Are we talking hp/L aregument here? I forgot that's what wins you races in the Honda world.
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God i cant wait to boost my CRX I will gladly eat any SRT thru my intercooler and crap it thru the exhaust nuff said.....
Again? A future major modification that will beat a car that's stock NOW?
Great, well I guess there really is no point arguing here.
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#214375 - 03/24/06 11:05 AM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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normaspirated
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Registered: 11/04/99
Posts: 22031
Loc: Nevada
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lol @ thread so far.
Good God! For the people that are defending the Si for its performance vs. the srt-4's, it's totally understandable 'cause this is, after all, a Civic Si site. But let's not be ignorant here. Dollar for dollar, mod wise, the srt-4 wins hands down.
To the original poster, weigh out the pros and cons of each vehicle, and pick out which matters to you the most (i.e. srt-4 is definitely a better performer, but has crappy resale value compared to the Si). If you haven't visited the neon srt-4 forums, do so, but do so with a grain of salt.. just like this site and any other Si sites you visit.
Oh, and just to add more fuel to the "buy-the-srt4" campaign, get an '04 and up 'cause they come with an LSD.
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#214376 - 03/24/06 11:36 AM
Re: very seroius question !!! ...srt4 OR the si
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tropicana
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 17529
Loc: Québec City, Qc
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Like I told someone via PM, I'm not at all an Si hater. I love it, I think it's a very cool little car with lots of qualities.
However, I see all cars for what they're worth, and the Si is just much more expensive than the SRT, and delivers less performance.
The moddability argument falls on its face, because a Stage 3 will give in the whereabouts of 380 whp and 400+ wtq to the SRT while keeping the warranty and running you about $3,500 installed.
I'm not bashing anyone who owns an Si again, I like the car. But the reason why I went with the SRT is that it's cheaper and faster.
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